From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #192 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, May 12 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 192 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Smoke and more smoke [notaro@stpt.usf.edu] Re: Hearing new things in familiar recordings, njc [Victor Johnson ] wind energy, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) ["Randy Remote" ] joni coverage [Randy Johnson ] Re: joni coverage/ njc [Em ] Man from Mars ["Michel BYRNE" ] RE: Man from Mars ["patrick leader" ] Re: Joni's Friend Stephen [PassScribe@aol.com] ferron njc [Deb Messling ] RE: Joni's Friend Stephen - njc ["patrick leader" ] 2 Joni mentions from Ann & Nancy ["Randy Remote" ] Stephen Stills at Westbury 5-11-07 (njc) kinda long [PassScribe@aol.com] njc, Anima no longer rising ["Patti Parlette" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:26:38 -0400 (EDT) From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: Smoke and more smoke The smoke is so thick here in St. Petersburg I can hardly see the boats on the water from my office. We've just been informed it is so bad they fear the smoke alarms are going to go off so we have to shut off the sprinklers in case they do. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:30:04 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Hearing new things in familiar recordings, njc On May 11, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > > Today, near the beginning, I heard the drummer playing that same > "figure" on > drums. > >> din din dum DUM >> din din dum DUM >> din-din dum DUM DUM >> din din dum DUM That would be Elvin Jones, a fantastic drummer. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:51:54 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: NJC Urge for Listening Monika, I know exactly what you mean. i get these cravings for music all the time. There have been a couple of times when I've been in the car, heard a song and headed straight for the music store. I'll get the recording, listen to it til it kills me, listen to it some more, then learn to play it if I can. If I can't learn it on my own you will find me at the sheet music store buying/ordering it if possible. There are some songs I just "have to have". It's not enough to just listen to them, I feel the need to play them and sing them from the depths. It's been like that forever, these feelings move me to tears and bring great joy. We are lucky to feel like this, not everyone does. Donna >>> 5/11/2007 10:40 AM >>> Well I'm glad to have this list to talk about these albums with. It's such a relief because when I tell my family, "oh I got a new Joni Mitchell album" they just roll their eyes and ignore me. When I tell my friends (sans my friend Nickey which some of you know from Jonifest) the same thing, they just say "cool." This list is so refreshing. Anyway, I'm so glad I own DJRD. It's funny because I have the "urge" (not for going) but the urge for listening to it. Let me explain. When I buy a new album usually I spend a couple days listening heavily to it. Then depending on my mood or whatever reason I'll either put it down until I get an inclination to listen to it again in coming time or certain songs or I'll have the "urge" for listening to it. Meaning everytime I listen to music (I grab a variety of music as I never listen to the same albums over and over when listening to music) I'll HAVE to grab the album. I'll have this "craving" to listen to it. Even when I'll be sitting doing something else, I won't be thinking, "oh I better go listen to that" but I'll have the urge to listen to it. I suppose it is like a craving for a drug. You're not satisfied until you get what you want which is what happens. I'll grab the album to satisfy my craving and I'll be ok for a little bit of time...until it starts up again. Eventually this initial feeling goes away and then it's just your normal "I want to listen to this or that" feeling. I remember I had this feeling with "For The Roses" quite heavily. So I have the "urge" for DJRD. Does this sound crazy or does it make sense? Anybody know the feeling? - -Monika, not crazy but perhaps a bit out there ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ( http://www.aol.com./ ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 15:35:32 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: wind energy, njc http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/05/07/MNGNEPMD801.DTL& feed=rss.news ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:13:38 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) From: > So I have the "urge" for DJRD. Does this sound crazy or does it make > sense? Anybody know the feeling? Yes indeedy...I listened to DJRD daily for, like 2 weeks on a $15 Radio Shack cassette recorder...not played, listened. Had to. Blue was like that. Fleetwood Mac's Tusk was like that. >Hi, this is a message" from the bottle" and also, a message of ABSOLUTE >(ly) Love >Joni Mitchell I am in love with,since my tender youth (Do you >hear me JONI ????? >She's a White Magic Woman........with Black & White faboulous >musician >.......playing guitars and piano like she >breathes.....naturally.......DON'T YOU >THINK SO ?? ?????? Joni has >a so sweet discret smile but so much sincere on >many many compositions >"Live".......What else could we say, to try to GET A >PRIVATE CONCERT just >for us, fans thirsty of Her, in the whole >Globe........WOODSTOCK won't be >enough, for sure !!!!!!!!! >"Christian" (FRANCE) She's a Magic White Woman, too- A private concert....hmmm....if we could get 500 people to kick in $200 each that would be $100,000. She might do it! But where to have it? (May I suggest Northern California?)......Anyway, nice to hear from you, Christian,and nice to know Joni has some sort of presence in France. How did you discover her? RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 15:29:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Johnson Subject: joni coverage i have been scouring all the local San Francisco alternative papers for any mention of the tribute album and the only weekly that has even written about it is the local lesbian/gay paper the B.A.R. which also includes a lovely photo of joni at a window in mailbu in 1970. This particular paper has always brought up to the date info. on joni in its arts column. also, don't know if anyone has mentioned joni's duet with joan baez which appears on two of baez' 70's albums. there are no lyrics, just vocalizing. as for favorite artists, another canadian singer/songwriter who has always impressed me is Ferron. any other Ferron fanatics out there? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 15:58:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: joni coverage/ njc - --- Randy Johnson wrote: > as for favorite artists, > another canadian singer/songwriter who has always impressed me is > Ferron. any other Ferron fanatics out there? > I wouldn't say fanatic, but Ferron's 1st couple of albums (2nd and 3rd maybe they are?) "Testimony" and "Shadows on a Dime" rank way up there, for me. Especially "Testimony". She touched the firmament with that one. As well as my heart. ;) Em ps have seen her in concert a couple of times too, and she held her audiences pretty much spell-bound http://www.jerriblank.com/intro01b.wav ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 01:03:06 +0000 From: "Michel BYRNE" Subject: Man from Mars Like others here, I was pretty bowled over by the 'alternate' version of MFM. For the first time ever it struck me as a great song - and even that 'boohoo' made sense, as the singer being self-deprecating, trying to make light of her pain which you realise with every line goes deeper and deeper. The vocal is much more expressive than in TT (the variations in the first line of each verse for example), and the accompaniment much lighter, which (for me) just suddenly brought the lyrics out. Do we know who produced it? Is that J playing the piano? The backing vocals dont sound like her... Strange how we all react differently. I know this will sound like sacrilege to many, but i never quite got what was so great about A Case of You - I always found the Blue vocals irritating - until I heard the orchestral remake on BSN - and BANG! the vocal just floored me, and the richness of the lyrics just seemed to grow and grow. Also totally love the remake of Last Time i Saw Richard. Thanks for the interesting review of DJRD. The title track is still in my top 5 - top 3 even? - Joni songs- absolutely stunning lyrics, for imagery and for rhythm. _________________________________________________________________ Play your part in making history - Email Britain! http://www.emailbritain.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 22:15:28 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Man from Mars hey michel - post more! i want to hear more about what you like and don't like in mitchell's work. give me sacrilege! i have the cd for 'grace of my heart' there a credit that reads THE MUSICIANS ON THE SOUNDTRACK AND THE FILM ARE:, but it just lists about 45 names, with no specific song or instrument credits. the notes mention that chuck berghofer provided bass on one song. larry klein produced the song, and most of the songs on the album. it's an interesting album, as most of the songs are written and performed to sound like period songs. there's a beach boys-esque song, an everly brothers-esque song, et cetera. has anyone ever thought of 'man from mars' as a period song, especially in this arrangement, with the girl group back-up vocals? ***** just gave this version of the song another listen, and my answer's 'naaahhh'. joni just provided the song she needed to in 1996. patrick np - absence makes the heart grow fonder, from the 'grace of my heart' soundtrack. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Michel BYRNE Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:03 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Man from Mars Like others here, I was pretty bowled over by the 'alternate' version of MFM. For the first time ever it struck me as a great song - and even that 'boohoo' made sense, as the singer being self-deprecating, trying to make light of her pain which you realise with every line goes deeper and deeper. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 23:09:16 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Friend Stephen Hi, all, i just got back from the Stephen Stills concert (you remember him... one of Joni's old friends) at Westbury Music Fair (Ooops, sorry! It's North Fork Theater at Westbury now) which ended a half-hour ago. Rather than tie up the JMDL with non-Joni stuff, please email me if you'd like to hear how the concert was (Monika, you're already on the list of people to send to and, YES, he did a Manassas song) and, as soon as I can write it up, I'll send it out to you all. Kenny B ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 23:50:48 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: ferron njc I wouldn't say "fanatic," but I always liked her, saw her live once, and would grant any favor imaginable to anyone who could hook me up with the Testimony CD. At 06:29 PM 5/11/2007, you wrote: >i have been scouring all the local San Francisco alternative papers >for any mention of the tribute album and the only weekly that has >even written about it is the local lesbian/gay paper the >B.A.R. which also includes a lovely photo of joni at a window in >mailbu in 1970. This particular paper has always brought up to the >date info. on joni in its arts column. also, don't know if anyone >has mentioned joni's duet with joan baez which appears on two of >baez' 70's albums. there are no lyrics, just vocalizing. as for >favorite artists, another canadian singer/songwriter who has always >impressed me is Ferron. any other Ferron fanatics out there? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 23:18:39 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Joni's Friend Stephen - njc hey kenny, if you're writing it up anyway, just mark it njc and send it to the list. i always love hearing about people's concert experiences. thanks, patrick np - silence - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of PassScribe@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 11:09 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni's Friend Stephen Hi, all, i just got back from the Stephen Stills concert (you remember him... one of Joni's old friends) at Westbury Music Fair (Ooops, sorry! It's North Fork Theater at Westbury now) which ended a half-hour ago. Rather than tie up the JMDL with non-Joni stuff, please email me if you'd like to hear how the concert was (Monika, you're already on the list of people to send to and, YES, he did a Manassas song) and, as soon as I can write it up, I'll send it out to you all. Kenny B ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 21:34:12 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: 2 Joni mentions from Ann & Nancy Directv is running a new Heart concert this weekend- they are doing the whole Dreamboat Annie album- check it out if you can-it's pretty smokin'- anyway, at the beginning the sisters are seated for an interview, and they say that when they started, it was either disco or singer-songwriter types "like Carly Simon or Joni Mitchell", no rocker women, so they had to be the pioneers (what about Janis Joplin?). Later, when they talk about the artists they were listening to around the DA time they mention Joni again. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 02:18:36 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Stephen Stills at Westbury 5-11-07 (njc) kinda long Hi, all, At Patrick's request, I've labeled this njc so the folks who don't want to read it can skip it but those of you who do can access it easily. In addition, it goes out directly to some who requested it. I've always admired Stephen Stills' compositions and guitar work (I have all of his albums), so when I heard he was coming to Westbury Music Fair, now known by its "sponsored" name: North Fork Theater at Westbury, (ten minutes from my home) I ran over & grabbed two tickets. For those of you who don't know, Westbury is a relatively small venue with seating in the round and a stage that rotates. Some performers, though, choose to keep the stage stationary & only perform to a half-filled hall; this show was one of those. We were almost dead center, 15 rows back (although I had a HUGE guy directly in front of me, two rows forward, whom I had to occasionally look around on the left or right to see, even though the floor is sloped). Luckilly, Stephen moved around a lot so it wasn't too bad. As many of you know, I like to make up unique tee-shirts and whenever I go to a concert, I try to come up with something that no one else will have. For tonight's show, I scanned the image of just CS&N on that sofa, from their first album, and put that horizontal 8 1/2 x 11 on the front of a black tee. For the back, I scanned just the image of the band from the second Manassas album, (everyone sitting in that grassy field) and filled an 8 1/2 x 11 transfer with that but left enough room on top for the "MANASSAS" logo from that album, enlarged, and placed above the band. I would rather have had the scene from the first Manassas album (my all-time favorite Stills album & one of my top three by anyone) but that cover photo is really bad (soft, out of focus, with no resolution or contrast to speak of... definitely NOT a tee-shirt candidate.) Happy the music inside it is so FANTASTIC! But I degress... Just down the street from the venue is a Subway (sandwich) shop, so my wife (Ro) & I stopped there to grab something to eat in the car before the show (you know, get into the parking lot before the rush, then eat before going in). I pulled into the lot at the Subway store and parked next to a car (with Jersey plates) with a couple inside, eating their food. As Ro & I got out of my car, and started to walk into the store, the guy in the other car shouts out, "Hey... NICE SHIRT!" Turns out he was a Stills fan on the way to the show. We talked after getting our food and he showed me a large tattoo on his chest with "CHURCH" emblazoned front & center (it's a song off Stills' 1970 debut album) and told me it was his & his wife's wedding song... cool! Inside the venue, I had several more comments on the shirt and everybody wanted to buy it from me. I told them how they could make their own. I'm very surprised at how few people were wearing any kind of music/Stills-related shirts, although I DID see a few from various older shows. The opening act was a guitarist/singer/songwriter from Lubbick, Texas, who sang well and played REALLY well but the sound system was WAY too loud and piercing. By the second song, Ro & I were getting headaches (and we weren't the only ones, judging by the comments from those around us) so- sad to say- we walked outside and missed his set. I figured, if the sound was going to be that loud all night, I might as well save my head for Stills. Happy to say that by the time Stephen came on, the sound was much better, although Stills kept making comments to his sound & mixing guy (couldn't hear his monitors, etc.) and at one point he said something like, "Don't you have dials on that thing?" I think he was a bit pissed! I wasn't aquainted with most of the band and Stephen introduced them very quickly toward the end so, although I was taking notes in the dark, I'm sure I didn't get the names right. There was a guitarist (that I think came out only toward the end, only on a couple songs, unless I didn't see him earlier since my eyes were fixed on Stills) who's name I did not get. I THINK the bass player was Kevin McCormack and keyboards were by Todd Kadwell (or something like that). Drummer was the only guy I knew: good ol' Joe Vitale (of Joe Walsh's Barnstorm days) and still going strong. For those of you who don't know, Vitale can play piano, horns AND drums (and I think guitar too) when called upon. He has also produced many albums for numerous people, including helping Stephen on his latest one. Stills opened up with the band behind him, doing a well-received "Helpless Hoping" from the first CSN album, then went solo with a FINE version of "Treetop Flyer" from his 1991 Stills Alone album, showcasing his awesome guitar work. His vocals have been getting a bit weak with age and were not too strong on the third song (I'm still trying to place and name it) and I can't read my notes on the fourth tune (sorry) and my mind can't remember it. Next was a GREAT version of the "Blind Fidler". Stills did a version of this on his 1991 Stills Alone album but it was a "medley" into which he interjected some of his "know you got to run, know you got to hide" verses; tonight's version was different than that album version and EXCELLENT in a more pure treatment. Afterward, he said to the crowd something like, "Yeah, I know it's kind of long, but so was The Iliad". Then, a well-received "Change Partners" (with audience singing along, as they did on many of his older tunes), then "Daylight Again/Find the Cost of Freedom" (getting the first of many standing ovations), and then a REALLY nice "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes", with EVERYBODY singing along, and some of his best guitar work of the night. Next, "Southern Cross" (with the keyboardist playing two different units at the same time) and then a song that I wasn't familiar with (I think it's off his newest album, Man Alive, and- while I have that album- I'm not too acquainted with all the tunes on it yet). Next, Stephen says, "Here's something we haven't heard before", and launches into "Isn't It About Time", the first track off his second Manassas album (Yes, Monika, there is a God!) and a rousing version it was! Too bad that was the only Manassas song of the night but- HEY!- you take what you can get, right? Stills guitar work on this one, in particular, was AWESOME! As a matter of fact, I think Stills' guitar playing throughout the night was IMPECCABLE! I mean, I'm not an accomplished guitariist but I think I know great guitar playing when I see and hear it and... THIS WAS IT! Even Ro said to me, after one of his rapid flourishes, "Geeezzz, my fingers hurt just watching him." I think the guitar players in the crowd must have thought they died & went to heaven. Stephen also wandered to the extreme sides of the stage a few times and the people over there were really elated; one guy with a point & shoot camera must have gotten a GREAT shot of Stills about eight feet away from him. Stills also threw a lot of picks out to the crowd after each song was done. Okay, next up was a song about the Bayou, "Different Man", off his newest Man Alive album, then the stage was changed around with another keyboard placed up front for Stephen. He proceeded to do a soul wrenching, bluesy song (also from his latest album), "Ole Man Trouble." Another sing along for "For What It's Worth", and another standing ovation, then into a rocking "Love The One You're With", with the whole place joining in, and finally a great version of "Woodstock" (written by a girl... what was her name?) that had EVERYONE singing along again. At that point, the band left the stage but you knew there'd be at least one encore 'cause the house lights stayed dimmed. Of course they came back out and did "Dark Star" (my least favorite Stills song, ironically) before saying, "Good night" and thanking everyone. Someone threw a red rose onto the stage as Stephen was leaving and he picked it up, went back to the mic and said, "A red rose... how romantic." He turned to walk off but turned back to the mic and thanked eveyone again; I think he was really happy with the crowd and pleased at how well received he was. Joe Vitale threw his drumsticks over toward the mostly empty seats at the extreme edge of the 180 degree area that they were playing to, and a few people scrambled over to try and grab a souvenir. All-in-all, a really fine night. Kenny B, reporting from foggy East Meadow on this mild Friday night ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 04:33:03 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Anima no longer rising It's very late when I walk in, but I heard something on the news a few minutes ago and had to turn my computer back on to share a silly Joni thing...pas grande chose...un petit amusement: "NEWS from U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission Target Recalls Anima Bamboo Collection Games Due to Lead Poisoning Hazard WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary recall of the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using recalled products immediately unless otherwise instructed. Name of product: Anima  Bamboo Collection Games" That's from: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07173.html (Ever-aware that there are librarians extraordinaire here -- Hi Jerry, Hi Deb -- I must always cite my sources! ) Shiny toys when it's over don't you hate to have to put your toys away because short-sighted businessmen did not care that there was toxic lead in the pieces. Lead, (like war) is not healthy for children and other living things. Okay, c'est tout. Bon nuit! Looking forward to a sunny day tomorrow and looking for laughter and finding it there, wishing you all the same, Patti P., Dreamland uprising in me tonight, just at this moment of the world _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #192 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------