From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #190 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, May 11 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 190 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Bjork NJC now some Tori Amos ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Bjork NJC now some Tori Amos [Jerry Notaro ] RE: Bjork NJC now some Tori Amos [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Bjork NJC now some Tori Amos [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Bjork NJC now some Tori Amos [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: BMR [Paul In MD ] Re: Taming the Tiger [Paul In MD ] Re: Bjork NJC now some Tori Amos ["Azeem Ali Khan" ] Re: Bjork NJC now some Tori Amos [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC yet, Songwriters [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) [Michael Flaherty ] Re: Taming the Tiger [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) ["Happy The Man" ] Re: Pictures Posted ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: major disappointment ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) ["anon anon" ] Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) ["Randy Remote" ] Re: NJC yet, Songwriters - now Nick Drake ["mia _" ] NJC Songwriters [] Fire and Rain (njc) [] Re: NJC yet, Songwriters - now Nick Drake ["Snatch N. Grabster" Subject: RE: Bjork NJC now some Tori Amos A record shop here in Barcelona is selling some Bjork CDs at what seems a pretty good price to me. I have Vespertine and Selma Songs and would like to hear her earlier stuff. I can't remember offhand which titles are on sale but 'post' is one of them, there are 3 more I think. Any help/hints appreciated. Also help needed with advice about a Tori Amos CD called something like 'beehives' ? ring any bells? Any good? Seems very cheap so maybe it's a crock of shite? Who knows? mike in bcn np rhp San Geronimo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 07:44:14 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Bjork NJC now some Tori Amos It's called the Beekeeper, one of her newer cd's, and well worth the purchase. More Tori news: Tori Amos writing a musical 05/08/2007 4:00 PM Tori Amos has announced she is writing a musical. The singer says that she is embarking on the project, which is set for the West End and Broadway when it is completed. "I think I am writing a musical. I'm gushing but I'm under lock and key," she explained. "I'm trying to be [Andrew] Lloyd Webber and [Tim] Rice. I'm trying to be both [of them]. I'm busy. This is such a big project--a double record, 23 songs and the extras." Amos has revealed one song title, reports Me-me-me.tv. She said: "You need to hear 'Smokin' Joe'--[it's] about how to kill a man." Amos recently released her new album, American Doll Posse. > A record shop here in Barcelona is selling some Bjork CDs at what seems a > pretty good price to me. I have Vespertine and Selma Songs and would like to > hear her earlier stuff. I can't remember offhand which titles are on sale but > 'post' is one of them, there are 3 more I think. Any help/hints appreciated. > > Also help needed with advice about a Tori Amos CD called something like > 'beehives' ? ring any bells? Any good? Seems very cheap so maybe it's a crock > of shite? Who knows? > mike in bcn > np rhp San Geronimo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 07:55:17 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: Bjork NJC now some Tori Amos "The Beekeeper"...haven't heard all of it - the reviews were bad across the board, at least the ones that I read. Unfortunately I got caught in the Tori trap - after Little Earthquakes & Under The Pink I kept buying her CD's, hoping for something of that quality and she just doesn't have it in her. Her new one, American Doll Posse, which I have heard, is more of the same meandering blandness. Remember - a cheap bad CD is still a bad CD. Bob NP: Drive-By Truckers, "Your Dadddy Hates Me" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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A typical roundup of comments and reviews: Personnel: Tori Amos (vocals, Hammond b-3 organ, keyboards); Damien Rice (vocals); Mac Aladdin (guitar); Jon Evans (bass instrument); Matt Chamberlain (drums); London Community Gospel Choir, Kelsey Dobyns (background vocals). Recording information: Martin Engineering, Cornwall, England. Like Tori Amos's previous studio album, SCARLET'S WALK, THE BEEKEEPER is a largely stripped-down affair that places emphasis on the singer's heavily conceptual lyrics and supple voice. The basic backing band from the former disc returns, and the musicians' ease with Amos's music gives the record a relaxed, natural feel. Throughout, the music is melodic, inviting, and sometimes even danceable. "Sweet the Sting" mixes church organ with an old-school soul beat and Latin percussion, resulting in a track that has less in common with Amos's usual overt sexuality and more with Barry White-style make-out music. "Sleeps with Butterflies" is a gently jazzy soft-rocker, while "Jamaica Inn" recalls the deceptively dark folkiness of Nick Drake. Lyrically, the album draws heavily from ancient religious texts, with an emphasis on women's role in Christianity a la THE DA VINCI CODE. One of Amos's most reflective albums, THE BEEKEEPER is also one of her most intensely thought-provoking outings. Industry Reviews 4 stars out of 5 - Pre-Raphaelite florid, abstract or frankly sexual, this eclectic epic is her best since '94's UNDER THE PINK. 4 stars out of 5 - Amos is exploring lush, steamier textures for her latest album....Here she keeps the mood focused and the music softly funky. [Amos keeps the melodies and arrangements relatively pared down and gentle....THE BEEKEEPER is the Tori Amos album for those normally freaked out by Tori Amos... - Grade: B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 08:11:26 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) A wonderful read, Monika - and of course you realize that not even your (3) listens can take all of this one in. Thirty years after the fact I'm still hearing new things in DJRD. Your review brought back a lot of memories as I had almost the same exact take that you did. At least YOU have someone to talk to about it. Back in '77, I was like ol' Furry - I had no-o-o-o-obody. And I had a good chuckle...you are probably the ONLY person to hear the guitar/kazoo demo of "Dreamland" PRIOR to hearing the released version. Bob NP: Bruce Springsteen, "NYC Serenade" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Also, on a trip down south a few years ago, it was perfect sitting on the balcony of my hotel after a thunderstorm with "palm trees in the porch light like slick black cellophane." It was a classic Joni experience. Paul In MD AMARY559@aol.com wrote:Listening to BMR I think it was more the style of the song that put me off. It is certainly not vintage Joni but perhaps should come out of my doghouse although the line "boom boom pachyderm" does belong there! Is it the only where she mentions her own name? (another of my pet hates as used excessively by hip-hop artists). Cheers Kevin - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 05:51:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul In MD Subject: Re: Taming the Tiger Wow, thanks for these! I am in the camp that thinks Man From Mars is one of Joni's best songs -- but she couldn't have come up with a better rhyme than "boo hoo"? To be fair, I have tried and nothing worked for me either. The alternate does make that line less glaring and I love the arrangement but I don't think Joni's vocals are as strong as they are on the version included on TTT. Joni's voice when she recorded TI and TTT was in that no man's land where her register was falling and I don't think she could always count on hitting the right note. So while I prefer the alternate version, Joni's voice is stronger on the TTT version. She may have felt the same way. When TI was released and I gave it a first listen, I wondered if Joni had suffered some sort of debilitating illness -- stroke, for instance. It was almost the same reaction I got when I first listened to Mingus. The lyrics on TI were so spare compared to everything that came before. TTT continued that style of writing. I find TTT a "sunnier" recording than TI and and I think it would have been an outstanding instrumental recording. I just don't find the writing as polished on those albums as the previous albums but there are certainly gems to be found. Perhaps I am being too harsh because I hold Joni to a higher standard than most artists. After all, Joni firing on five cylinders is better than most artists firing on eight. Paul In MD Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: Here you go Catherine and anyone else interested in the alternative mix of Man From Mars. http://download.yousendit.com/D48A077A41A8C3A6 If you want the mp3 on your desktop, control-click (Mac) or right-click (Windows) on the Download button and choose to save it. If it has a weird title, re-title it as Man From Mars (Alternative Mix).mp3. Mark in Sydney - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:09:16 +0100 From: "Azeem Ali Khan" Subject: Re: Bjork NJC now some Tori Amos The Beekeeper is the only one of hers I don't have (apart from the very new one which I haven't got around to buying yet). I thought Scarlett's Walk was superb, full of proper tunes and great singing. And just the other day, I stuck To Venus And Back in the CD player, having not played it for ages - and yes, I thought THAT was a killer too! The first half dozen songs in particular are incredibly strong and crunchy. She's a huge talent and a true original; and anyone who thought she was a wispy, ivory-tinkling Lady Songwriter would be blown away by To Venus And Back. On the subject of new releases, I have just picked up Feist's new album - fabulous! Azeem in London On 5/10/07, Bob.Muller@fluor.com wrote: > > eclectic epic is her best since '94's UNDER THE PINK.> > > And this statement seems to be repeated with everything she's put out > since then. > > But all kidding aside, I'll defer to Mr. Notaro - I only heard bits of it, > he's got it and is more familiar with it. > > Bob > > NP: Joni, "Love" (Tlog version which is really gorgeous) > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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As for Tori, it's not that her post-UTP releases are bad, but I just find them totally forgettable. They sound OK while you're listening to them, but as soon as the CD is over I have no recall of it. Nothing sticks. The major exception to that was her "Strange Little Girls" covers project which was instantly wretched. Bob NP: Fiona Apple, "Extraordinary Machine" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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The heart has its reasons that reason knows > not of. > > --AJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 06:35:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) Motitan@aol.com wrote: >>>>>10. The Silky Veils Of Ardor: Another favorite! And may I say what a PERFECT ENDING to the album!? Yes, you may. :) I know not everyone here cares for this track, but I've always found it an appropriately melancholy, yet peaceful, way to end the hour long ride. Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:44:45 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Taming the Tiger Steve Polifka changed "without at least one big boo-hoo" to "without at least a tear or two". Works for me. 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Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:02:10 -0500 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) Bob, You know I didn't realize until after I told my friends they needed to listen to Joni or put her on in the car that not everybody had the same taste in music I did. I guess Joni was the my first artist that wasn't cool to listen too. If they only knew. Peace, Craig NP: Any Major Dude.... - Steely Dan - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:11 AM Subject: Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) >A wonderful read, Monika - and of course you realize that not even your > (3) listens can take all of this one in. Thirty years after the fact I'm > still hearing new things in DJRD. Your review brought back a lot of > memories as I had almost the same exact take that you did. At least YOU > have someone to talk to about it. Back in '77, I was like ol' Furry - I > had no-o-o-o-obody. > > And I had a good chuckle...you are probably the ONLY person to hear the > guitar/kazoo demo of "Dreamland" PRIOR to hearing the released version. > > Bob > > NP: Bruce Springsteen, "NYC Serenade" > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 08:13:38 -0700 From: "Richard Goldman" Subject: NJC: New Rufus Wainwright: "Release The Stars" The CD is streaming now on several websites... VH1, Rhapsody, and Much Music. 12 complete tracks, about 59 minutes total playing time, and, in my humble opinion, an album of epic aural splendor and gorgeousness. http://www.muchmusic.com/music/firstspin/rufuswainwright/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 13:32:28 -0400 From: "Sue Cameron" Subject: I love you guys (njc) Hey, I love you all, no matter what you do for kicks on your own time behind closed doors. You have introduced me to new and wonderful things; new sights, sounds, tastes. 4/98, First fest it Pittsburgh, the joy of other Joni freaks! What an experience. Squirrel Hill, houses packed tight and stacked high. Singing Joni all night, and all morning, and Dreamland. Hanging with the Joni homies, Terry M., Mary P. and Patrick; now all dear to my heart. Kakki cutting up making everyone laugh and Jim shooting the whole event for posterity sake. Sherelle singing so sweetly, and Mendi keeping a beat on the drums. Bill D. with the amazing VG 8/98, A Day in the Garden was amazing, meeting up with the tribe again, Sue Mac, Heather, Lori, Don, Mendi, Brian, Deb, and my buddies Amy and Kate T. Where did you ever go Kate? I still talk to Amy, but miss so many other people from that day. Heather, where are you girl? Oh, and Chili and Kai and Robert. So many good people and such great Joni music live. 10/98, in Detroit with the Motown gang, seeing Joni unexpectedly emerge from the elevator at the Townsend Hotel and feeling like I was walking on air. Terry, Marian, Amy, Mary P., such a great thrill having three close encounters with my music goddess! 5/00, Joni in Detroit again, this time we are joined by Cassie and Vince and Yael, new faces and smiles and laughter. Terry and Amy there, but alas, no Joni this time. Still, we keep ourselves occupied with Patricks guitar and Kellys giggles, good food and Jonis music. 8/00, Hanging with Chris and the gang in Cambridge, UK, drinking sweet wine and telling stories of Joni encounters. Listening to the embryonic Stryngs as the night waned and the early morning hours crept in. Meeting Colin and his puppies and Les with the gorgeous soft voice, Martin and his Martin, Sara Strings, Steve my shopping buddy, Jamie with the beautiful falsetto Joni brining me to tears and Azeem with his vast knowledge of everything and his quick wit. 5/01, NYC memorial fest hosted by David Lahm at Judys Chelsea. Meeting Kay and Roberto and Julius and Alison and Rose. Traipsing about NYC, getting lost in Central Park looking for Balto (damn that dog) hooking up later with Patrick and the crew, singing late into the evening at Jeffs apartment, eating good food and drinking cheap beer. 6/01, Chicago mini fest with Susan, Diane and Jody. Great times in the windy city, Italian food to die for and the sights and sounds of the big city rumbling around us as we walked and talked about Joni. 8/01, My first Ashara fest, why the heck did I wait so long? All new tastes, faces and fun. Maggie cookin in the kitchen, Paz cooking on guitar, Les, the listmeister and mandolin player supreme, Greg and Claud singing sweetly while uncle John passed out tasty treats from across the pond. Never ending Victor, cutting jokes w/ Murph, big smiles from Bob, Kerry and Steve, the Wisconsin contingent, Hell from the tiny island, Wally K. who was bigger than life, pals Alison, Jody and Rose. Meeting Sharon with her sweet honey and bread. So many new sights, sounds, tastes and of course Ashara to welcome us all in. 8/03, Putting the pieces together at the Full Moon Fest. Faces and smiles to fill the void of my world. Encouragement and cheer (dont forget the beer). More songs and singing and love, fresh air, laughing and laughing until my sides hurt. Riding with Yael who listened to me, and listened to megetting up on stage, finally, to sing with Alison and Strings and with Jenny's sweet harmony group (even though I was off key!). 8/04, Back at Full Moon, more familiar faces and hugs, feeling like I am home. Meeting up with my sisters, being a smaller part of the bigger whole. Taking the trip with Catherine, listening to the iPod and singing along. Going up on stage for real, singing with Mary and Donna, sister support, then all on my own! 4/07, Spring at Full Moon, different time, same safe feeling. Being back amongst the tribe of Joni. Finishing each others sentences, meeting new listers and springing my crazy humor on them . Meeting longtime posters Mike P. and Happy Craig, who lived up to their writing and then some. Attending with a companion who actually understood the music madness, singing my own stuff, and hearing Joni sing with a crazy be-bop band. Remembering why I love all of you guys, and why I get psyched for weeks before and am blue for weeks afterwards. 4/08 is possible, who would like to go? Ten years of JoniFests, what a great thing to celebrate and the more the merrier! I love you guys, and I love this list. It and all of you have brought such joy in my life. The friendships have made a huge difference in my life, my career (thanks Mary P.), my location (thanks Kerry). You have all brought unique and diverse aspects and opinions to my attention, allowing me to be a better person. I thank you all. I thank Wally B., bless his soul, and Les, and Julie Z. and Ashara. Suze C. a lurker in the post world but an active reader. n.p. Jonathas new one, Careful What You Wish For (buy it today!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 17:46:39 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Pictures Posted Okay, I'm this far behind in digests (April 10th) but I just wanted to say how wonderful these pictures are! Everyone seems to be having so much fun and I totally agree with Catherine that the clarity of these pictures is outstanding! Sorry to be so far behind but life has a way of doing that to you sometimes. Sherelle >From: "Happy The Man" > > > > http://www.hatstand.org/gallery/v/JoniMitchell/nejf2007/Happy+The+Man/?g2_nav > > Id=x41d07907 > >Good photos and detailed info about the camera used, >etc, >but no names or captions? Unless you were there, >there is >no way to know who is who. I think the part about the type of camera is some kind of default. That stuff is always there. There are some names in Rosie's album. Catherine Toronto _________________________________________________________________ Catch suspicious messages before you open themwith Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_protection_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 13:55:27 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) For me it went even deeper than that - my friend Chris loved C&S so we used to listen to that all the time. My friend Lee was a Hejira fan so we could bond on that one, but when DJRD came out I was on my own. And that didn't stop me, I still spun the hell out of it. At least Jolie at WQDR played it a lot so I felt like I had a kindred spirit. Bob NP: Al Jarreau, "Better Than Anything" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 18:14:19 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: major disappointment Still WAY behind on digests but thought I would give these clips a listen. I have to agree with you Bob on your thoughts and not meant as a criticism either. There are a few songs that aren't my cup of tea but I like the fact that each artist was trying to bring something new to the project. A couple of artists who were my cup of tea with this tribute were Prince doing "A Case of You", Sarah McLaughlin doing "Blue", Annie Lenox doing "Ladies of the Canyon" K.D. Lang doing "Help Me", and Emmylou Harris doing "The Magdalene Laundries". What I like in a tribute song is when the artist stays pretty true to the song and yet is able to give it their own feel as well. Oh, I did also like Bjork's version of "The Boho Dance". I appreciated everyone's efforts but just liked some better than others. Sherelle Bob M wrote: This one, most likely: http://atributetojonimitchell.com/ Wow, this is really a surprise comment. Having listened to it numerous times, I'm not sure where you're coming from with that statement. While it has its faults, one of the things it DOES (whether you like it or not) is to 'bring new life' and/or re-imagine most of the songs. Sufjan Stevens, Bjork, Elvis Costello, Brad Mehldau, Cassandra Wilson all put a brand new spin on their tracks as do most of the artists involved. Not meant as a criticism, but just curious - what were you expecting? Bob _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 17:31:29 -0400 From: "anon anon" Subject: Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) >From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com >Reply-To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com >To: Motitan@aol.com >CC: joni@smoe.org, owner-joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) >Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 08:11:26 -0400 > . Back in '77, I was like ol' Furry - I >had no-o-o-o-obody. >> >Bob > Speaking of Furry, I've read about how he didn't like Joni, how he found her visit with him somehow disrectful, mainly, I guess, because he wasn't payed for the song, though apprently during the vist, he was angry at Joni for mentioning that she played open tunings on her guitar... He felt that she was critisizing him, apparently... I'm sure Joni meant well, and at the very least, the song brought renewed interest to Lewis's music... _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_MAY07 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:45:05 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Thoughts on DJRD (long) From: > 4. Paprika Plains: > because it's more than just a song. The piano is particularly > interesting > here as it goes from sounding pretty to sounding dark and ominous and > back > again. Nice observation! The piano part is several smaller snippets of improvisation, from different days, that were edited together. They were recorded differently (or on different pianos?), resulting in the sound variation. > 8. DJRD: > Listen to all those images! > How did she think of all that? The Eagle, the Serpent. Tell me that > isn't > great? I happen to love the line "as we rock between the sheets." It is a great line...the eagle and the serpent are from Joni's sun sign of Scorpio-the high road and low road so to speak. Another great recording of a great song-I like the way the bass and drum are doing the same "thunk" trancy rhythm throughout. > 9. Off Night Backstreet: > 10. The Silky Veils Of Ardor: > This song is a hidden gem man. Two of her most intense tracks-you can picture that Scorpio stinger waving at you in ONB! > Well, overall I like the album but can understand why some would have > been baffled back in '77 when it came out. I don't think alot of people heard it. I saw the double LP in cutout bins frequently. This was a turning point in FM radio- it really started going corporate. Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours", and The Eagles "Hotel California" had pretty much swept away the days of more experimental programming-the kind that Joni usually got. "Saturday Night Fever" and disco were also storming the charts. I think Joni's audience has always been kind of marginal- there was a time when everybody bought Blue and C&S, and I think for most, that satisfied their curiosity for her, like having 2 Cat Stevens records. DJRD is one of those records I will buy whenever there is an improved audio format. It's truly one of her masterpieces, and I enjoyed your insightful review. RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 18:40:49 -0500 From: "mia _" Subject: Re: NJC yet, Songwriters - now Nick Drake <> I recently borrowed Pink Moon from the library, based on all the glowing recommendations from the existing Nick Drake fans on this list, and I really love it. Never heard Nick Drake's music 'til now. So far, my favorite tunes are "Road," "Free Ride," "Which Will," "Things Behind the Sun," and "Parasite" as I just adore the guitar playing on these. If any one has the tunings and tabs to share, I would be forever grateful. Some of the songs remind me of other artists songs - not a bad thing - just slightly reminiscent: "Know" reminds me of Cream's "I Feel Free," especially the humming part. "Parasite" makes me think of The Beatles's "Dear Prudence" - the guitar part. "From the Morning" reminds me of - of all things - JONI - playing guitar on "Cactus Tree" - kind of the same picking pattern. And the instrumental "Horn" reminds me of Rickie Lee Jones' "The Evening of My Best Day." When "Horn" starts to play, I'm alway tempted to start singing the lyrics to "Evening..." - like the part that goes "I don't know why..." Anybody else? Way to Blue is coming next - and now I know where Victor got his email name from ;) Mia _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 23:39:43 +0000 From: "Owen Duff" Subject: Re: Bjork I'd have to second 'Vespertine' as an intro to Bjork's music, 'Harm of Will' and 'Sun in my Mouth' in particular are just achingly gorgeous songs... and the rest are not far off. I only truly got into her a few years ago, after years of liking what I'd heard of her output but for some reason not having followed up. I love the fact that she adopts the bleeding edge of music making but injects it with a huge amount of passion and humanity that could otherwise be missing, as well as bringing in more traditional instruments and ideas. Brilliant! After 'Vespertine' I'd say 'Homogenic' for her harder edge, and any of them after that. 'Selmasongs' is, surprisingly, one of my favourites, though I can't stand 'Dancer in the Dark'. Still haven't bought her latest, too poor! Soon, very soon... O www.myspace.com/owenduff www.owenduff.co.uk Lycos email has 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 18:45:37 -0700 From: Subject: NJC Songwriters Many Nick Drake fans here. I was astounded Victor didn't include him on his initial list! ;-) Victor is a big fan and his music can be very Drake-like. While sorting out my hundreds of disorganized CDs the other night trying to find a needle in a haystack for a friend, I came across my Nick stuff. I must reorganize! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 18:53:48 -0700 From: Subject: Fire and Rain (njc) I;m on digest and just saw your post, Mark. Thanks. I probably sounded pretty provincial the other night wondering if anyone else had heard of it but I was watching the whole thing explode out the window and my local news reporting was almost non-existent or dismal there for awhile! In a funny way, it is nice to know it was reported in Australia - shows they cared. I heard today that the animals are doing very well. Many of the firemen and police expressed sadness for the wild animals - mountain lions, bobcats, rabbits, coyotes who probably did not fare as well. There are homeless who live in the park, too, and hopefully they escaped relatively unscathed. Now Catalina Island is burning and that is really bad because they have no natural source of water there. However, I've heard they have quickly mobilized several fire departments from the mainland to battle it. Thanks for your thoughts and concern. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 21:16:40 -0500 From: "Snatch N. Grabster" Subject: Re: NJC yet, Songwriters - now Nick Drake Nick Drake is one of those artists where I have to own everything that's out there, whether officially released or not. Unfortunately, there isn't that much- just the three albums released in his lifetime, a few misc. tracks and alternates, plus the home recordings. From what I've read, he played only maybe three live shows eveer... was on the John Peel show once but apparently only a fragmentary recording survives. There is a new collection coming out that has the home demos in best quality yet available... Nick Drake has influenced other people's guitar playing, including Robyn Hitchcock. There are some good covers out there... Beck covered three or four ND tunes a couple years ago, although these versions are not on any album. Robyn Hitchcock wrote a song called I Saw Nick Drake that's exceptional. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #190 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------