From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #184 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, May 6 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 184 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: njc, Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni mention on "David Letterman" and the Ellen Show [Catherine McKay] Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content [Catherine] SV: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content ["Marion Le] Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content ["mike prit] Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content ["mike prit] Re: NJC state of music business [Catherine McKay ] RE : Carly Simon Live - now Carly Simon on the radio njc [Joseph Palis ] Below average lyrics, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content [Motitan@ao] Re:NJC Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago [Motitan@aol.com] Kent State, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content ["mike prit] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_Cinco_de_Mayo_@_Rockwood_Sala_de_M=FAsica_=2 8?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?NJC=29?= [Michael Paz ] njc, Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: njc, Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content, now Banned Songs NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: Dry Cleaner from De Mentia.doc NJC [Bob Muller ] those souls who don't get Joni [Kate Johnson ] Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] Grand-Maitre and Joni ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago NJC ["L. Bruce Vaughn" ] Re: state of music business ["Cassy" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 07:10:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc, Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > Dear Joniamigos: > > I just read an op-ed piece that inspires me to carry > on. I hope it does the > same for you. > > Voila: > > WHAT WILL IT TAKE THIS TIME? > May 4, 2007 > MIKE ALEWITZ > Hartford Courant > > It was a different massacre in another time. A total > of 67 shots were fired > in 13 seconds. The cruel and bloody events of that > day left an indelible > stamp on the consciousness of a generation. The day > was May 4, 1970, 37 > years ago - at Kent State University in Ohio. > There are a few photographs I'll never forget. One is the girl screaming as she kneels over the body of one of the young men that was killed. http://www.athousandandone.com/7/ Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 13:11:32 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC state of music business Catherine, are you Joni Mitchell? Bene :-D >there seems to be a lot more crap music >around than there ever was before. There doesn't seem >to be a lot of originality in the words or the music. A lot of modern dance music, hiphop and so on, seems to linger on maybe three notes and that's it, plus a lot of sometimes clever, but often just imitative sampling. Maybe I just don't get it and maybe I've become my mother, but it all sounds the same to me. And so many of the lyrics are not merely simplistic and moronic, but downright crass. When people like Fergie and the Pussycat Dolls are cranking out number one hits, it's pretty darn depressing. There's still some good stuff out there, but you're not going to hear it on mainstream radio or on MTV. Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 13:50:24 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Re Crown and Anchor, Joni and Gosport. no real factual joni content For me, as a 14 year old hearing BLUE for the first time and not having the depth of analysis and interpretation gained in the intervening years (36 to be precise) I always thought that somehow she was asking him to put her behind the bar of the pub, just down the road from my friend's house. The Crown and Anchor was a seedy dive (known locally for its brawling and prostiutes). It also had a heavily tatooed biker element. The police were regular visitors and the pub clients were certainly familiar with the inside of our local magistrates court. the Crown and Acnhor is now transformed into 7 apartments for those who are less than able to function in society without a lot of supervision. I thought it was odd that Joni knew about the place, and was a little impressed that she had clearly been to Gosport and was asking for this job in the pub to be given to her, or else she would catch an aeroplane to somewhere else... I also harboured a secret suspicion that she had been to our local planning department and named a really bijou new development as, not 15 minutes from my door is "Little Green" Ah well it was good when I was 14m and Joni was my newly discovered friend. I realise that I came later to her than some but it really does not matter. I am just glad that my first listening to JOni was not Taming the Tiger... I would never had listened to another thing. Be well all of you Lucy in England on a wonderfully blue and gold Saturday ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 05:53:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Joni mention on "David Letterman" and the Ellen Show As I was lying in bed watching Letterman, my girlfriend mostly asleep besides me ... I felt the Joni mention coming on ... I thought of Diamonds & Rust immediately too Jill! But then I knew when he swiftly dismissed Joan Baez that the inevitable confusion between the two would bring on the Joni mention ... and as they said it ... it was like a touchdown! I threw my hands into the air as if ... and said "Joni mention!" My girlfriend rolled over and sarcastically asked if I wanted to run & turn on the computer so I could be the first tell my fellow stalkers all about the big event. LOL! Yeah, okay so she calls us stalkers. She has been to a Jonifest though and loved it! But Dave is a Joni fan - I still recall her doing Sex Kills on the show back in was that 93 or 94? I cried my eyes out that night - it was such a thrill to see her at that point, after so long. Happy Cinco De Mayo! Peace, Susan Jill Haas wrote: Another Joni reference in the world of comedy talk shows-- - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 13:11:37 +0000 From: rosalie990@comcast.net Subject: A Late Thank You Hello to you all, My name is Rosalie. My dear friend Mack posts to this board. A few months ago I read several very kind comments on this board after Mack posted about the deaths of my sons, Andy and Steven. I have now come to a point where I can try and respond to some of the things people did for me then. I wanted to thank everyone for the words of empathy and encouragement. I did read them and I did take comfort from it. For you all to take the time and effort to write words of comfort to a complete stranger speaks much about the kind of people who frequent this board. A caring group to be sure. I also want to tell everyone.........love your kids every chance you get. Hold them, hug them and tell them you love them every time you get the chance. It is hard to imagine and it is human nature to push the thought away, but we never know when that hug, that kiss, that "I love you" might be the last chance we ever get. Thank you again, you are very much appreciated...................Rosalie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 15:32:16 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content Neil Young's 'Ohio' was, along with War's 'Spill the Wine', banned on public radio in the UK when first released, although in north wales we listened mostly to pirate radio and had no problem listening to it, although all the songs had morse code in the background (they broadcast from ships in international waters). I remember that summer as the first solo album from Eric Clapton and my first taste of French beer in the town of Argeles sur mere. Two days after getting back from my first trip abroad (hitchhiking almost to the Franco-Spanish border at the age of 16) I set forth again to the Isle of Wight Festival. The rest is history. mike in barcelona np Coltrane - Traneing In ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 09:33:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Carly Simon Live njc Carly Simon live on the Second Cup of Coffee Cafe on CBS Saturday Morning in a few minutes. I think from the preview she is going to sing Close Your Eyes. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 09:58:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni mention on "David Letterman" and the Ellen Show - --- Susan Guzzi wrote: I threw my hands into the air as if ... > and said "Joni mention!" My girlfriend rolled over > and sarcastically asked if I wanted to run & turn on > the computer so I could be the first tell my fellow > stalkers all about the big event. And if that is not a sign of true love, then nothing is. Any non-Joni-fan who has a Joni-fan for a mate should say that - otherwise, they don't know you well enough. Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 10:05:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content - --- mike pritchard wrote: > Neil Young's 'Ohio' was, along with War's 'Spill the > Wine', banned on public > radio in the UK when first released, although in > north wales we listened > mostly to pirate radio and had no problem listening > to it, although all the > songs had morse code in the background (they > broadcast from ships in > international waters). I remember that summer as the > first solo album from > Eric Clapton and my first taste of French beer in > the town of Argeles sur > mere. Two days after getting back from my first trip > abroad (hitchhiking > almost to the Franco-Spanish border at the age of > 16) I set forth again to the > Isle of Wight Festival. The rest is history. > mike in barcelona I'm sometimes astounded at the songs that get (or got?) banned in the UK. I remember "Ohio" being played what felt like ALL THE TIME when it came out. Was it banned in the US? anywhere? anyone? Why ban "Spill the wine"? Was there some deeper meaning that I don't get? I'm a bit jealous that you went to the Isle of Wight Festival, but not too much. Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 16:13:19 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content My, how time does fly! I was in Britain then but couldn't make it to the festival. Later I read that it went sour and that Joni was given a bad time there. Is that how you remember it? And oh, those pirate radio hours, pressing my ears against the transistor radio, happy to make out which song was playing through all the disturbance...Who remembers Radio Luxembourg? Signing off before I get too nostalgic, Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr mike pritchard Skickat: den 5 maj 2007 15:32 Till: list Dmne: Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content Neil Young's 'Ohio' was, along with War's 'Spill the Wine', banned on public radio in the UK when first released, although in north wales we listened mostly to pirate radio and had no problem listening to it, although all the songs had morse code in the background (they broadcast from ships in international waters). I remember that summer as the first solo album from Eric Clapton and my first taste of French beer in the town of Argeles sur mere. Two days after getting back from my first trip abroad (hitchhiking almost to the Franco-Spanish border at the age of 16) I set forth again to the Isle of Wight Festival. The rest is history. mike in barcelona np Coltrane - Traneing In ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 16:31:57 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content The BBC is not known as 'Auntie' for nothing. There were many other songs banned over the years because of an overprotective attitude, Chuck Berry's My Ding-a-Ling' and Johnny Cash's 'A Boy called Sue' are two others. Anyone remember any others? mike in bcn np White Room - Cream - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine McKay" To: "mike pritchard" ; "list" Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 4:05 PM Subject: Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content > > --- mike pritchard wrote: > > > Neil Young's 'Ohio' was, along with War's 'Spill the > > Wine', banned on public > > radio in the UK when first released, although in > > north wales we listened > > mostly to pirate radio and had no problem listening > > to it, although all the > > songs had morse code in the background (they > > broadcast from ships in > > international waters). I remember that summer as the > > first solo album from > > Eric Clapton and my first taste of French beer in > > the town of Argeles sur > > mere. Two days after getting back from my first trip > > abroad (hitchhiking > > almost to the Franco-Spanish border at the age of > > 16) I set forth again to the > > Isle of Wight Festival. The rest is history. > > mike in barcelona > > I'm sometimes astounded at the songs that get (or > got?) banned in the UK. > > I remember "Ohio" being played what felt like ALL THE > TIME when it came out. > > Was it banned in the US? anywhere? anyone? > > Why ban "Spill the wine"? Was there some deeper > meaning that I don't get? > > I'm a bit jealous that you went to the Isle of Wight > Festival, but not too much. > > > > Catherine > Toronto > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Yahoo! Mail: http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 16:37:42 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content Radio Luxemburg (208) was where I first heard many of the groups which I fell in love with. Arlo Guthrie, Chicago, Ramblin Jack Elliot and hundreds more who got no airplay on national radio. The signal quality was crap though and could only be picked up at night in wales and always with the Radio Liberty tones in the background (or am I misremembering this?). My favourite DJ then was Kid Jensen, a Canadian who later moved to the Beeb. Joni had a hard time at the IoW but mostly through circumstances beyond her control. It's all clear if you check the festival film, now available on DVD. mike in bcn np Minuit - Khaled - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Leffler" To: "'mike pritchard'" ; "'list'" Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 4:13 PM Subject: SV: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content My, how time does fly! I was in Britain then but couldn't make it to the festival. Later I read that it went sour and that Joni was given a bad time there. Is that how you remember it? And oh, those pirate radio hours, pressing my ears against the transistor radio, happy to make out which song was playing through all the disturbance...Who remembers Radio Luxembourg? Signing off before I get too nostalgic, Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr mike pritchard Skickat: den 5 maj 2007 15:32 Till: list Dmne: Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content Neil Young's 'Ohio' was, along with War's 'Spill the Wine', banned on public radio in the UK when first released, although in north wales we listened mostly to pirate radio and had no problem listening to it, although all the songs had morse code in the background (they broadcast from ships in international waters). I remember that summer as the first solo album from Eric Clapton and my first taste of French beer in the town of Argeles sur mere. Two days after getting back from my first trip abroad (hitchhiking almost to the Franco-Spanish border at the age of 16) I set forth again to the Isle of Wight Festival. The rest is history. mike in barcelona np Coltrane - Traneing In ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 10:32:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC state of music business - --- missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > Catherine, are you Joni Mitchell? > > Bene :-D > > >there seems to be a lot more crap music > >around than there ever was before. There doesn't > seem > >to be a lot of originality in the words or the > music. I do sound really grouchy, don't I? It may be part of getting old. I don't remember my parents ever commenting about modern music being crap (that is, what was modern when I was a teenager). Of course, my mother thought anything Joni sounded like a dirge, which I've mentioned many times. I do remember my Dad sometimes commenting on a particular song he heard on the radio, questioning the lyrics and so on. I do wonder how anyone could find most of Beyonce's music really musical, as just one example. I've tried to listen to figure out what people see in it and every so often, there's a song that I think is good in its own way, even if it's not necessarily my taste. And most of the lyrics don't say anything interesting. I think a lot of it has to do with aging. I find it difficult to differentiate when there are a lot of sounds or conversations going on around me, so I end up tuning everything out. I don't know if I'm losing my hearing or if having difficulty differentiating between too many stimuli is part of growing old. A similar thing is happening with my vision, which has never been very good (I've worn glasses since I was 7 years old and have never yet met anyone with a prescription as bad or as weird as mine). I often walk along the street not noticing the people around me and I'm sure I pass people by that I know and they probably think I'm snubbing them, but I just don't see them. I'd be happier listening to Joni complaining about modern music if we'd also hear something that she DID like that was under 20 years old. Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 16:39:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE : Carly Simon Live - now Carly Simon on the radio njc Thanks for the heads-up, Jerry. I have a growing fondness to Carly now than before. Don't know why considering that I didn't really care that much for her last two recent releases (Moonlight Serenade wasn't even that good nor her much more recent one Into White -- but that's just me of course). But her burnished voice has achieved a new level of maturity, authenticity and gravitas for me. I remembered playing an obscure song of hers called "In Honor of You (George)" which is her tribute to George Gershwin in the station one late evening. This song came from The Bedroom Tapes. The homage song sings/talks about this eminent American composer, then she would segue into familiar Gershwin songs like "Embraceable You" midway through the song the same way Joni does in "Chinese Cafe/Unchained Melody" or "Harry's House/Centerpiece" and make that song integral to the whole song. In some ways it is similar to what great jazzmen like John Coltrane, Charlie Parker, Thelonious Monk, Dizzy Gillespie, etc. did in their live jams where they quote and incorporate bits and pieces of familiar tunes. Anyway back to Carly's song, I played it on the air and I thought it achieved a nice and healthy balance to the tunes I played before it (Officerfishdumplings, Gudrun Gut, Burning Star Core). Then the phone rang: Caller: (irate) What is that?!! Me: Carly Simon giving a tribute to Gershwin. Caller: That's weird, man. Me: Any music you'd like to hear? Caller: Yeah, anything BUT that. End of call. In retrospect I realized that the song did not follow conventions in terms of having a recognizable hook. It changed dynamics several times throughout the almost-6-minute song. She interspersed speech with song. And maybe to the hard core base audience of the station -- not indie enough. But I do like Carly now than ever. In fact I used her song "Happy Birthday" from her Have You Seen Me Lately last April 11 to start my show because it was my birthday and what better way to start it than have a happy birthday song for yourself that is about having doubts and having strange feelings about adding another year. Joseph in Chapel Hill np: Sara Hickman "Room of one's own" "Gerald A. Notaro" a icrit : Carly Simon live on the Second Cup of Coffee Cafe on CBS Saturday Morning in a few minutes. I think from the preview she is going to sing Close Your Eyes. Jerry - --------------------------------- Dicouvrez une nouvelle fagon d'obtenir des riponses ` toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expiriences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Riponses. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 10:43:31 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: for Monika Like a Hurricane njc and other Rusties.... Bobby Bandiera fromm New Jersey playing Neil's Like a Hurricane....you'll love this... _http://download.yousendit.com/4A37100A349DC310_ (http://download.yousendit.com/4A37100A349DC310) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 16:43:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Joni mention in NYT Jazz guitar Romeo (as he is called sometimes in the press) John Pizzarelli and uber talented wife Jessica Molaskey both appear in a show in NYC which some of our JoniListas in the Big Apple can go see/catch. There is a nice Joni mention here. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/03/arts/music/03pizz.html?_r=1&ref=music&oref=slogin - --------------------------------- Dicouvrez une nouvelle fagon d'obtenir des riponses ` toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expiriences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Riponses. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 11:07:29 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Below average lyrics, njc I've been listening to contemporary country for about a year now. Here's a lyric from Rascal Flatts which sets my teeth on edge: "If you're faced with a choice and you have to choose. I hope you choose the one that means the most to you." Duh. 1. If I'm faced with a choice then (by definition) I *have* to choose. 2. And why would I choose the one that means the *least* anyway? The germ of the idea was good but, wow, the execution is below average. It's the kind of stuff a 12 year old throws into a term paper, to fit out a one-page requirement, tossed off in the ten minutes before its due, okay? All the best, Jim L. In Friday's digest #183, which I didn't receive but read in the archive, Monika, "who lives for and only for music" quoted this lyric: "this is why I'm hot, I'm hot cause I'm fly, you ain't cause you not." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 11:18:48 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content My sister is going to Kent State for Grad School in the fall. I told her whatever you do, don't protest there. - -------------------------------------------- Tin soldiers and Nixon coming, We're finally on our own. This summer I hear the drumming, Four dead in Ohio. Gotta get down to it Soldiers are cutting us down Should have been done long ago. What if you knew her And found her dead on the ground How can you run when you know? Gotta get down to it Soldiers are cutting us down Should have been done long ago. What if you knew her And found her dead on the ground How can you run when you know? Tin soldiers and Nixon coming, We're finally on our own. This summer I hear the drumming, Four dead in Ohio.............................. - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 11:21:59 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re:NJC Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago Woops, my bad. There was no Joni content in that last post whatsoever. Hang me if you must but my legacy will live on. - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 11:26:39 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Kent State, njc The best thing to come out of Kent State is Dick Gregory's speech. I have it on LP. It was released on CD (ASIN: B000000972 ) but both are out of print. It was a brilliant speech which included the entire sweep on US history. He recalled that the white man stole the land from native americans. After they segregated the "Indians", they had to find someone new to oppress. So, they put Africans in slavery. But then African-Americans Rosa'ed-up and demanded the right to vote. The white men grundgingly let them ouf of "the indian box" but he was jonsing to push someone down. They said, "A cowboy ain't no cowboy without an Indian. We gots to find us a new Indian, a new n1gger. We got to find one today." They looked around and saw a bunch of kids protesting the war, and said, "There's our new Indian! There's our new n1gger!" A second said, "My God, man! Those are our kids!" The first said, "It don't matter. We need a new Indian." And four of them lay dead. Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 17:37:41 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content Strange that Vince hasn't commented on this matter this year. You OK, Rev? mike in bcn np Dreamgirl - Dave Mathews Band ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 10:47:28 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_Cinco_de_Mayo_@_Rockwood_Sala_de_M=FAsica_=2 8?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?NJC=29?= and of course as always she will doing her impressions of Jose Jimenez, Ricky Ricardo, and Mario "Cantinflas" Moreno. Paz (at Jazz Fest before we go live on msn.com) P.S. Watch for the Irma Thomas Tribute to Mahalia Jackson. Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band cell-504-382-0343 http://www.preservationhall.com On May 4, 2007, at 12:48 AM, Kay Ashley wrote: The Honduran Fertility Goddess Speaks! Yes, I admit it, it's shameless self-promotion. However, I do want to let any JoniListas in the NYC area know that I have an early show (6:00 pm) at Rockwood Music Hall this Saturday, Cinco de Mayo. See below for the details of my pathetic begging, oops, I mean, attempts to publicize my show. I'm still pissed that JoniFest is over. :-) Kay - ---------------------------- Original Message - ---------------------------- Subject: Cinco de Mayo @ Rockwood Sala de Mzsica From: "Kay Ashley" Date: Fri, May 4, 2007 1:34 am To: kay@kayashley.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -- Hello Friends, I've got a fun show coming up this weekend at a very odd time -- 6:00 pm on Saturday. Wow, that's very odd, I hear you all say. Well, yes it is. However, I am hoping that I can convince you that this is actually a cool time to come out to hear me play. Think of it as a pre-dinner cocktail hour with music. Or a very late High Tea (unfortunately, there's no clotted cream at the Rockwood) with music. Or a weekend Happy Hour for all you poor suckers who are still temping on the weekends, with, you guessed it, music. And this Saturday is Cinco de Mayo to boot. So get your evening started right at the hippest joint below Houston. To make things even more exciting than they already are, I've invited my amazingly talented friends Allison Tartalia and Denise Barbarita to join me for part of my set. They'll each do a song of their own and will most likely be unable to contain themselves and will end up on stage during some of my songs as well. Saturday, May 5th, 2007 Rockwood Music Hall - http://www.rockwoodmusichall.com Kay Ashley & Friends - 6:00 pm 196 Allen Street New York, NY 10002 212.477.4155 Price: No cover Hope to see you there! Kay http://www.kayashley.com - --------------------------------------------------------------- Change your info? Stop the emails? Easy! Just click this link: http://kayashley.com/hostbaby/i?i=312&p=94AlFeSzMT69ZLnai9bP ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 18:04:20 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Dry Cleaner from De Mentia.doc NJC http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/suing-the-pants-off-dry-cleaner >>A Washington judge who says his local dry cleaner lost a pair of trousers is suing the family business for $US67 million ($A81 million)... ..He reached the figure of $US67,292,000, citing Washington's consumer protection law, which provides for damages of $1500 per violation per day. Judge Pearson started multiplying: 12 violations over 1200 days, times three defendants (the Chungs and their son), as well as other claims. These include $US15,000 to rent a car every weekend for 10 years to drive to a cleaner in another area. He also seeks $US500,000 in emotional damages and $US542,000 in legal fees, although he is representing himself.<< I suggest these 'emotional damages' should have forced him to withdraw himself from sitting on any bench and deciding on any case. Requesting this amount of damages suggest that the balance of his mind has indeed been disturbed. I look forward to hearing appeals from all the people who suffered negative decisions from him. What a lucky break for the Chungs that they only had one son. mike in barcelona, shaking head in disbelief np - Back Around - Bonnie Raitt npimh mad world - tears for fears ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 16:21:40 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago Woke up It was a Chelsea morning and the first thing that I read was this, from Jeannie: > >I was just about an 12 year old kid and I clearly remember that the Kent >State incident had to have been the first major depression I experience. >The first of many impacts here in this country, after all the bloody news >of the Vietnam War, when I knew I had to mobilize towards those who chose >life, truth, peace,harmony and justice as their cause. Bravissima, Bella! Applause, applause! Life is our cause. Oh, won't you stay We'll put on the day And we'll wear it 'til the night comes. Love & Peace, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger. Join the im Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 12:26:53 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: From Amsterdam to Atlanta (njc) I was driving around this morning and happened upon a neighborhood yard sale. I ended up talking to one of the people having one and he told me he was from Amsterdam and was a congressman there for 10 years before he lost his seat. His name is Sam Cherribi (maybe you're familiar with him Mr. Van Tiel?) and he's a member of the faculty now at Emory University where his wife Holli also works. We started talking about music and I ended up giving him my cd to play (Parsonage Lane) and we sat and talked while listening. I talked a little about Jonifest and we talked about Holland and Europe, etc...very cool fellow. He seemed possibly interested in doing a house concert of some sort...it would be fun to try to put something together with Stryngs next year. The other odd thing was when I was initially walking up the driveway, he had BBC radio playing through his laptop and they were featuring the music of Stephen Sondheim and I was hearing all the songs that we sang in "Side by Side" just a month or so ago, specifically "Comedy Tonight", our opening number was what I heard first...freaked me out a little bit, but I love synchronicity! He also seemed interested in coming to hear Preservation Hall on the 19th. It will be an awesome weekend for sure! Victor, finished with the semester finally! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 16:33:11 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: njc, Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago And the *next* thing that I saw was this, from Catherine Elizabeth: >There are a few photographs I'll never forget. One is >the girl screaming as she kneels over the body of one >of the young men that was killed. >http://www.athousandandone.com/7/ > Oh, my. That picture. I look at it and I can hear David Crosby YELLING and screaming out in tortured and pure anguish: "WHY?" "HOW MANY MORE?" "WHY? You tell me, WHY????" Thanks for that, mon amie. Every picture tells a story, don't it? L & P, Patti P. NPIMH: Ohio, obviously _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger. Join the im Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 11:45:10 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Jazz Fest Webcast Sorry about that I thought there as a link on the msn.com site but here is the link to watch what we are up to in New Orleans at Jazz Fest. http://attblueroom.com/hub/index.php Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 09:47:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago, now some joni content, now Banned Songs NJC "Society's Child" by Janis Ian Anything by Sufjan Stevens when my wife's in the car. Bob NP: Arcade Fire, "Intervention" - --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 16:48:10 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: SV: Crown and Anchor Marion wrote: "Cassie, I have always thought "Crown and Anchor me" meant "marry me" but I didn't know about those stamps inside wedding rings. Now that I know, thanks to you, the lyrics take on a deeper meaning." Oh, I cannot resist: Mama Cassy taught us the deeeEEEeeeeEEEEper meaning..... Oui, thanks to you. May your skies be blue. L & P, Patti P., on a roll today (TIC! rolling, rolling, rock and rowwwwwwlllllllll-ING!) (Hey, does anyone want to get a boat, and we can row it?) _________________________________________________________________ Watch free concerts with Pink, Rod Stewart, Oasis and more. Visit MSN In Concert today. http://music.msn.com/presents?icid=ncmsnpresentstagline ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 09:43:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Dry Cleaner from De Mentia.doc NJC And why not? We spent a lot more than that on Monica Lewinsky's dress - and then, ironically, because it HADN'T been drycleaned. Bob NP: Porcupine Tree, "Fear of a Blank Planet" PS: Great subject line Mike! - --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 10:16:12 -0500 From: Kate Johnson Subject: those souls who don't get Joni > Mark-Leon Thorne > Subject: Re: Those souls who don't "get" Joni > > Yes Kate. Sounds like a familiar story. Tell me, was it the Australian > cousin who became a music critic in his sleep? Don't take him as > typical of Aussies please. Heavens no. I don't even take him as typical of teenagers, which is what he was. I still tease my sister, who is now 39, about a little "altercation" we had back when she was 18 and I was 27 and at home on the farm visiting before she moved to the city. I was as usual crazy about Joni Mitchell's music and she thought Joni Mitchell was a has-been and that much more cool music was made by a band called Haywire, of which she was enamoured. Nowadays I say to her, with raised eyebrow, "And where is Haywire now?" >>Joni could never be a dog! If anything, she would be a Siamese cat. >>Marion LOL You've got that right. Kate - -- http://xoetc.antville.org Who Does She Think She Is? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 16:08:30 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago NJC Mike writes: > There were many other songs > banned over the years because of an overprotective attitude, Chuck Berry's > My Ding-a-Ling' and Johnny Cash's 'A Boy called Sue' are two others. Anyone > remember any others? > I can remember as a kid when the AM radio station here in Ft. Myers, Florida wouldn't play "Louie Louie" by the Kingsmen because of the rumors that the lyrics were *dirty*. Jimmy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 21:15:59 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Grand-Maitre and Joni Jean Grand-Maitre was in town to direct Gounod's Romeo and Juliette for our local opera company. He granted an interview to our culture rag, the Voir, in which half of the interview was devoted to his collaboration with Joni on the ballet project, The Fiddle and the Drum. Roughly paraphrased, he says this: It was a great learning experience for him. Joni claims it was one of her best experiences of working collaboratively since Mingus. He claims that another ballet project with her is planned, but he did not specify when it would happen. He says artists such as Joni have lances that plunge into the soul and abcesses of the human heart. The greater the artist, the deeper the lance pentrates. The artist plunges it in, pulls it out and looks at, observes it. Joni destabilizes the human consciousness. As for the music - the lyrics are painful, but the accompanying sounds - the guitar work and the chords she composes are beautiful. But the words are ugly. With Fiddle and the Drum, they didn't want to create a moralising tract - they didn't want answers to questions, they simply wanted to ask lots of questions. The questions of great artists such as Shakespeare and Joni are eternal. Michael in Quebec NP: Koop - Koop Island Blues _________________________________________________________________ RealLiveMoms: Share your experience with Real Live Moms just like you http://www.reallivemoms.ca/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 19:23:28 -0700 From: "L. Bruce Vaughn" Subject: Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago NJC If you can find the original 45rpm single of Louie Louie on Wand Records it does have the "F" word in it, twice if memory serves which is why I bought it as a kid and still have it. Growing up in Illinois you tuned your transistor radio to WLS or WCFL in Chicago or KXOK in St. Louis. WCFL played anything and got away with it including Chuck Berry's My Ding-A-Ling. Others I remember: Rolling Stones - Street Fighting Man Beatles - The Ballad Of John & Yoko (or they "effected" out the "christ") Paul McCartney - Hi Hi Hi Bruce >Mike writes: > > > >>There were many other songs >>banned over the years because of an overprotective attitude, Chuck Berry's >>My Ding-a-Ling' and Johnny Cash's 'A Boy called Sue' are two others. Anyone >>remember any others? >> >> >> >I can remember as a kid when the AM radio station here in Ft. Myers, Florida >wouldn't play "Louie Louie" by the Kingsmen because of the rumors that the >lyrics were *dirty*. > >Jimmy > > > >************************************** > See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 22:05:52 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: SV: If Joni was a dog Oh no, she is an Arabian horse! >Joni could never be a dog! If anything, she would be a Siamese cat. Marion< >LCStanley7@aol.com I think she'd be a pharoah hound.< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 02:08:38 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: state of music business From: "Catherine McKay" <<< I'd be happier listening to Joni complaining about modern music if we'd also hear something that she DID like that was under 20 years old. >>> She loves Deep Forest (so do I). The original Deep Forest CD "Deep Forest", which is where the song "Night Bird"came from for her Starbucks compilation CD, was released in 1993. not quite 20 years old. Cassy NP: Delirium - Euphoria (firefly) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #184 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------