From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #180 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, May 3 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 180 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- House Concerts ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: JONI: A Dog or a Goddess? [Motitan@aol.com] "The Last Time I Saw Richard" sheet music ["Rick Steckles" ] Re: Baez not allowed to sing for soldiers at Walter Reed NJC [jeannie ] Does Joni care what we think? and Marianne Faithfull [Kate Johnson ] Re: My Generation [Catherine McKay ] Re: "The Last Time I Saw Richard" sheet music [Bob Muller ] Joni & Woodstock? [Motitan@aol.com] Mavis Staples' "We'll Never Turn Back" njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Baez not allowed to sing for soldiers at Walter Reed NJC ["AJ" ] Re: njc, TV alert for PBS's "American Masters" show on Ahmet Ertegun ["] Re: Baez not allowed to sing for soldiers at Walter Reed NJC [jeannie ] Re: njc, TV alert for PBS's "American Masters" show on Ahmet Ertegun [] Starart ["Les Irvin" ] First Joni [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 10:56:33 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: House Concerts Hey Martin! Here are a couple of venues in Houston, Texas, where I live, that would be great for you and Stryngs. I hope you guys can book them, it would be great to see you and have you visit my part of the world! http://www.selia.com/ http://www.texasnightsconcerts.com/ Donna >>Hi folks Martin in London here (longtime lurker and occasional Jonifest attendee). To some of the jmdlers who are longer in the tooth, you'll know that I'm the guitarist in the UK band 'Stryngs'. For the shorter toothed, I very rarely post, but you may know Chris Marshall (our illustrious bass player) who posts more often :0) I'm putting out an inquiry to anybody in the US or Canada who puts on House Concerts, or knows anybody who does. My singer and I are intending to tour North America next year and are trying to put together a few gigs. Our band came together through the inspiration of Joni Mitchell, although I like to think we are not copyists in any way. I guess you might say we play contemporary acoustic/folk music; and we would love to do a house concert for you when we come over. You can listen to some of the band's music at www.myspace.com/stryngs and we will be making a DVD of a house concert that we will be playing later on this year in the UK, to use as a demo, so that you can get a good idea of our style. Anybody who might be interested, please email me off-list. Also - if anyone is involved with any folk festivals in the US or Canada next year, we would love to play there too. Thanks for the bandwidth. Martin Giles. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:40:24 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: JONI: A Dog or a Goddess? Well, I always think Joni looks pretty when I see her in photos and in DVDS. But then again, I do tend to favor blonde people (there's a huge inside joke about this with me and the people who know me personally...one day maybe I'll fill you guys in). But like someone else here said, she always does look so very different from photo to photo and from year to year. Before I had started listening to her, or more or less right when I started listening to her, I wasn't completely clueless to what she looked like. I knew she was a very thin blonde and I had the picture of her with the long, blonde hippyish hair. Of course then I saw more and more pictures of her and watched DVDS and things and was always amazed at the difference in her from different photos. Anyhow, my brother and my sister think Joni is "fugly." And that's not them just trying to be rude to me or tease me. Now some comments they make....that's them being rude but hey man I can hold my own as far as that is concerned, haha. Plus, my brother who had the song "Big Yellow Taxi" downloaded on the computer and put on a burnt cd for himself long before I started to listeing to Joni, now tells me he can't listen to the song. And even more so, because of my interest in Joni's music, he told me yesterday that the thought of Joni Mitchell makes him want to vomit. Now that's him being rude! (Yet sadly also truthful......) - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 16:53:58 +0100 From: "Rick Steckles" Subject: "The Last Time I Saw Richard" sheet music Hey everyone, Just signed up to the list, so Hi to everyone! I've only just started listening to Joni (the 'Blue' album) and I really want to learn how to play The Last Time I Saw Richard on the piano. I'm not particularly good on the piano so I've been looking for sheet music, but the only place I can find it is in a collection called the Joni Mitchell Songbook Volume 2. The cheapest I can find this for (on Froogle) is #158 - well outside my budget! :o) Does anyone know if it's possible to get music for this song for a reasonable amount of money, or point me in the right direction? Many thanks, - - Rick. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 17:29:53 +0100 From: "Stephen Toogood" Subject: RE: "The Last Time I Saw Richard" sheet music Rick, would be happy to scan you a copy when I get a spare moment. Thing is, I couldn't do a pdf last time, though I am sure I recall doing one at some point in my life. Had to do put scans on word which was a little time consuming, and probably not as good quality. Ste ...who now wonders if he'll ever make it to the emerald city. >From: "Rick Steckles" >Reply-To: "Rick Steckles" >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: "The Last Time I Saw Richard" sheet music >Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 16:53:58 +0100 > >Hey everyone, > >Just signed up to the list, so Hi to everyone! > >I've only just started listening to Joni (the 'Blue' album) and I >really want to learn how to play The Last Time I Saw Richard on the >piano. I'm not particularly good on the piano so I've been looking >for sheet music, but the only place I can find it is in a collection >called the Joni Mitchell Songbook Volume 2. The cheapest I can find >this for (on Froogle) is #158 - well outside my budget! :o) > >Does anyone know if it's possible to get music for this song for a >reasonable amount of money, or point me in the right direction? > >Many thanks, > >- Rick. _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 10:59:46 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Baez not allowed to sing for soldiers at Walter Reed NJC Wolfowitz' greedlust made him aim to a postion higher than that of Alan Greenspans'...that ugly, money-hungry wolfman in supposed politician sheep's clothing, which is most common. > (Ironic that McNamara and Wolfowitz (sp) both > planned > pointless wars, and then both hightailed it to head > the World Bank.) > > *Santanaya was right yet again: forget the past (or > ignore it) > and you're bound to repeat it. > > Oh well. > > AJ > *George Santanaya (sp?) Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:09:49 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: JONI: A Dog or a Goddess? Monika, no offense, but your brother reminds me of someone who's at age level with Hillary Duff and Hannah Montana and little sister Spears. Joni makes him want to vomit with her looks? She's "fugly?" Is that fucking ugly? How old are they? What do y'all think of dark beauties like Sade? Cassandra Wilson? Who's the prettiest blond haired chick out there for you right now? I see in color but I see no color. Jeannie - --- Motitan@aol.com wrote: > Well, I always think Joni looks pretty when I see > her in photos and in DVDS. > But then again, I do tend to favor blonde people > (there's a huge inside > joke about this with me and the people who know me > personally...one day maybe > I'll fill you guys in). But like someone else here > said, she always does look > so very different from photo to photo and from year > to year. Before I had > started listening to her, or more or less right > when I started listening to > her, I wasn't completely clueless to what she > looked like. I knew she was a > very thin blonde and I had the picture of her with > the long, blonde hippyish > hair. Of course then I saw more and more pictures > of her and watched DVDS and > things and was always amazed at the difference in > her from different photos. > Anyhow, my brother and my sister think Joni is > "fugly." And that's not > them just trying to be rude to me or tease me. Now > some comments they > make....that's them being rude but hey man I can > hold my own as far as that is > concerned, haha. > Plus, my brother who had the song "Big Yellow > Taxi" downloaded on the > computer and put on a burnt cd for himself long > before I started to listeing to > Joni, now tells me he can't listen to the song. > And even more so, because > of my interest in Joni's music, he told me > yesterday that the thought of Joni > Mitchell makes him want to vomit. Now that's him > being rude! (Yet sadly also > truthful......) > -Monika > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. > Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:15:55 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Baez not allowed to sing for soldiers at Walter Reed NJC The blind leading the bound, gagged, blindfolded and earplugged poor maimed ones of war. - --- Em wrote: > I wanted you guys here on the JMDL to know of this > as well, if you > didn't already. > I am saddened to know that some of the troops reject > the notion that > one can support THEM and NOT support the war. That > unless we support > the violence and blind fighting, we do not support > them at all. > I am sad. > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/01/AR2007050101572_pf.html > > *Why I Wanted to Sing at Walter Reed* > > Wednesday, May 2, 2007; A14 > > Regarding the April 28 Style article "At Walter > Reed, Mellencamp Shuts > His Mouth and Sings": > > Recently, John Mellencamp invited me to be his guest > at a concert for > recovering soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical > Center. I said yes > immediately. Only later did I realize how the > passage of time had > informed my decision to join him. > > I have always been an advocate for nonviolence, and > I have stood as > firmly against the Iraq war as I did the Vietnam War > 40 years ago. > During that war, I could not, in good conscience, > have "sung for the > troops." Doing so would have meant condoning a war > that was tearing > soldiers, civilians, this country, Vietnam and, in > some senses, the > world, apart. I do not regret that decision. > > What I do regret is having ignored the needs of the > men and women who > returned from Vietnam. For some who were relatively > unscathed, it > seemed > possible to get on with life, with or without all of > their limbs > intact. > > But it's clear that, for many, returning was hell. > > I realize now that I might have contributed to a > better welcome home > for > those soldiers fresh from Vietnam. Maybe that's why > I didn't hesitate > to > accept the invitation to sing for those returning > from Iraq and > Afghanistan. > > In the end, four days before the concert, I was not > "approved" by the > Army to take part. Strange irony. > > JOAN BAEZ > > Menlo Park, Calif. > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/01/AR2007050101999_pf.html > > *Joan Baez Unwelcome At Concert For Troops* > Singer Was to Perform With Mellencamp at Walter Reed > > By Teresa Wiltz > Washington Post Staff Writer > Wednesday, May 2, 2007; C01 > > When rocker John Mellencamp performed for the > recovering soldiers at > Walter Reed Army Medical Center on Friday night, a > couple of things > were > missing. He squelched his typically blistering > rhetoric against the war > > in Iraq. Also MIA, as it turned out, was folkie and > antiwar activist > Joan Baez, who says she was disinvited from the > event by Army > officials. > > In a letter that appears today in The Washington > Post, Baez says > Mellencamp had wanted her to perform with him and > that she had accepted > > his invitation. > > "I have always been an advocate for nonviolence," > she writes, "and I > have stood as firmly against the Iraq war as I did > the Vietnam War 40 > years ago. . . . I realize now that I might have > contributed to a > better > welcome home for those soldiers fresh from Vietnam. > Maybe that's why I > didn't hesitate to accept the invitation to sing for > those returning > from Iraq and Afghanistan. > > "In the end, four days before the concert, I was not > 'approved' by the > Army to take part. Strange irony." > > Reached by telephone yesterday at her home in Menlo > Park, Calif., Baez, > > 66, said she wasn't told why she was given the boot, > but speculated, > "There might have been one, there might have been 50 > [soldiers] that > thought I was a traitor." > > Baez, who said Mellencamp had asked her to sing two > songs with him, has > > been an avowed anti-violence activist ever since she > refused to > participate in an air raid drill at her Southern > California high > school. > In the '60s, her name became synonymous with the > antiwar movement, > though many of the protest songs she was famous for > performing, such as > > "Blowin' in the Wind," were covers of Bob Dylan and > Pete Seeger songs. > In 1964 she protested the Vietnam War by refusing to > pay 60 percent of > her income taxes. In 1968, she married activist > David Harris -- the two > > met in jail following a protest -- and moved with > him into his draft > resistance commune. > > Walter Reed officials did not respond to several > requests for comment > yesterday. But in an e-mailed statement published > Monday on > RollingStone.com, spokesman Steve Sanderson said the > medical center > received the requests for participation by Baez and > broadcaster Dan > Rather just two days before the concert. (Rather now > works for HDNet, > which broadcast the Mellencamp concert.) > > "These additional requirements were not in the > agreement/contract and > would have required a modification," Sanderson told > the magazine's Web > site. > > Not so, says Baez's manager, Mark Spector; > Mellencamp's management > invited Baez to perform in March with the > understanding that things > could take a while "because of the red tape of Army > bureaucracy." > Mellencamp's management handled all the > arrangements, according to > Spector. And up until April 23, when Baez was turned > down, everything > was "still inching forward," he said: "They'd booked > her flight; they'd > > booked her hotel." > > Mellencamp's manager, Randy Hoffman, did not return > calls requesting > comment, and Mellencamp was ill and unavailable > yesterday, according to > > his publicist. But Mellencamp told RollingStone.com: > "They didn't give > me a reason why she couldn't come. We asked why and > they said, 'She > can't fit here, period.' " > > "One of my more cynical friends said, 'They let the > rats in, why not > you?' " Baez said, laughing, referring to a recent > exposi of living > conditions at Walter Reed. > === message truncated === Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 14:34:05 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Stevens' tribute version of FMIP Hi, gang, I was driving in the car today when WFUV played Sufjan Stevens' version of "Free Man in Paris." I thought, "GREAT! Now I can hear something off that new album." Duh! What the @#$% was that all about? I've never heard such an over-produced cover of a song in my life. I could barely hear the vocals for all the overwrought instrumentation... I mean, was there anything they didn't use on this song? If I had never heard the song before, I don't think I would have even been able to understand the lyrics and, if I could, I certainly wouldn't get the same message out of the song as I got from Joni. I'm glad I fell in love with Joni's music before I heard this cover. Back when the Wall To Wall weekend of covers/performances was taking place in NYC, I was fortunate to tape some of the simulcast off the radio but I came away with the same feeling (for many of those songs) as I got from Sevens' FMIP: "If you admired Joni and the song so much, why did you change it so drastically?" I don't know how everyone else feels about this one but, if it's any indication of the rest of the album, I'm glad I didn't run out to buy it. I usually consider myself a "completist"; I like to have everything related to an artist I really admire. I hope there are other covers on that CD that will coax me into picking it up, otherwise, this will be one item I'll do without. Kenny B ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 14:37:36 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: VLJC JONI: A Dog or a Goddess? Monika, I know just what you mean. I've always thought Joni was pretty and my younger brother HATED her when we were kids. I'd always get up early and put her albums on - this would have been the early ones - Blue, Clouds, LOTC - (putting us at about ages 13 and 11) when to some her voice sounded almost operatic and it would make him SO MAD. I still smile thinking about how much pleasure it gave me to annoy him. I love Joni and I loved pissing him off, it was all good I tell you! So next time your brother starts in, just blast her CDs well within earshot of him and just smile as he begins to hurl LOL!! db >>> jeannie 5/2/2007 1:09 PM >>> Monika, no offense, but your brother reminds me of someone who's at age level with Hillary Duff and Hannah Montana and little sister Spears. Joni makes him want to vomit with her looks? She's "fugly?" Is that fucking ugly? How old are they? What do y'all think of dark beauties like Sade? Cassandra Wilson? Who's the prettiest blond haired chick out there for you right now? I see in color but I see no color. Jeannie - --- Motitan@aol.com wrote: > Well, I always think Joni looks pretty when I see > her in photos and in DVDS. > But then again, I do tend to favor blonde people > (there's a huge inside > joke about this with me and the people who know me > personally...one day maybe > I'll fill you guys in). But like someone else here > said, she always does look > so very different from photo to photo and from year > to year. Before I had > started listening to her, or more or less right > when I started listening to > her, I wasn't completely clueless to what she > looked like. I knew she was a > very thin blonde and I had the picture of her with > the long, blonde hippyish > hair. Of course then I saw more and more pictures > of her and watched DVDS and > things and was always amazed at the difference in > her from different photos. > Anyhow, my brother and my sister think Joni is > "fugly." And that's not > them just trying to be rude to me or tease me. Now > some comments they > make....that's them being rude but hey man I can > hold my own as far as that is > concerned, haha. > Plus, my brother who had the song "Big Yellow > Taxi" downloaded on the > computer and put on a burnt cd for himself long > before I started to listeing to > Joni, now tells me he can't listen to the song. > And even more so, because > of my interest in Joni's music, he told me > yesterday that the thought of Joni > Mitchell makes him want to vomit. Now that's him > being rude! (Yet sadly also > truthful......) > -Monika > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. ( http://www.aol.com./ ) > Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 12:24:51 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Baez not allowed to sing for soldiers at Walter Reed NJC Clearly, this administration supports the war but not the troops who were sent hastily into battle without a plan or the appropriate equipment Kate ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 16:33:42 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Stevens' tribute version of FMIP It was about an artist who translated a song into their style. I would imagine, given the comments I've read about this one, that if you aren't familiar with Sufjan's style (lots of orchestrated production and his trademark staccato synchopations) or if you don't like his style (my wife yells at me like a banshee to turn it off when she hears him) than you don't like his treatment of the song. But the fact is that you ARE familiar with the song, so this point is basically moot, right? It's only because you are already comfortable with the blueprint of Joni's recording that it fell so difficulty on your ear. For me, it's what makes it such an interesting cover - fitting Joni's canvas into his own frame, so to speak. Why would I want a Joni imitator when I have the real thing at my fingertips? < "If you admired Joni and the song so much, why did you change it so drastically?" > Even Joni's most basic songs open themsleves up to the most amazing and complex explorations. Just like Brad Mehldau digging his fingers in to the melody and rhythm of "Don't Interrupt The Sorrow" without being encumbered with the words, just like Annie Lennox putting a new-wave synth sound on LOTC, and so on and so on. I'm the first to admit that I don't always LIKE what an artist may do in dismantling and reassembling Joni's composition, but I'm always interested to hear it, and let's face it; if her music didn't have this complexity we wouldn't even be here in the first place. Like just about every multi-artist tribute out there, it's a mixed bag, Kenny. IMO the successes far outweigh the failures. Bob NP: Prince, "Slow Love" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 20:43:41 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: My generation njc A mean old (grand)daddy (but we like him) wrote: Children, children, calm your foolish fears. DAVID LAHM dob 12 12 40 ********* Ha! Of thee I sing (as songs to aging children come): 'Our' old man He's a singer in the park He's a walker in the rain He's a dancer in the dark..... ....glued to those damn hockey games... With a wink and a smile, and affection and respect to children of all ages, - -- Patti P. (nee le 9 fevrier, 1954), running behind the times on digest-reading P.S. Bon anniversaire, AJ! What a nice birthday tribute to get the Joni Tribute! _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 15:14:50 -0500 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Does Joni care what we think? and Marianne Faithfull On 2-May-07, at 2:16 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > From: "Marion Leffler" > Subject: SV: My generation > > That was really moving, Jerry! I wish Joni would read these posts > occasionally. Maybe she wouldn't care so much about being > unappreciated by > the music business then, seeing how much she has meant and still > means to us > "ordinary" people, how she has touched our lives with her art. - On > second > thoughts, I guess it could be scary knowing you are a part of > thousands of > people's lives that you have never met and have no knowledge about. > So maybe > it would just give her the creeps. Complicated, fame is... > Marion I wonder. You'd think she receives lots of fan mail, wouldn't you? I mean, surely half of us have picked up a pen to make sure she knows how much her music has moved us. Yet how many of those letters has she ever acknowledged? I sometimes think that if I were in her place, or perhaps was a published writer, I'd avoid reading reviews and such, for fear that critical ones might affect my output, that I might somehow try to change, or even just BE changed by it ... and be less original, less genuine ... And so maybe I wouldn't read fan mail, then. Kate of the North - -- http://xoetc.antville.org Who Does She Think She Is? By the way, Billy, have you seen the movie Marie Antoinette? Did you know Marianne Faithfull plays her mother? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 12:54:08 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: My Generation I'm 51. I heard Judy Collins' chart hits BSN and Chelsea Morning, and CSNY's Woodstock, but didn't know from Joni Mitchell. I started listening to FM radio, and heard a song, "Big Yellow Taxi" that I liked. When I saw the album at the library, I checked it out, so I could tape the song on my dad's reel-to-reel. My cousin said "Oh, yeah, my teacher played that for us. She wrote Woodstock". I loved the LOTC album. When Blue came out, I heard "Carey" and "California" on the radio, and went out and bought it. I played Blue alot, and adored FTR, too. I've bought every album on it's release ever since (except Mingus and DJRD during a 'no money' period). WTRF was the last album that I played alot-everything since pales in comparison, IMO, and I have not really connected to those later ones. Saw her in Berkeley with the LA Express (before MIA) when her boob popped out of her dress-from the very last row, I thought I might have been seeing things. I've seen her 4 times since, but that was the last time I saw her boob. RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 19:03:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: My Generation - --- Randy Remote wrote: > the last time I saw her boob. There's a song in there somewhere. Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 16:47:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: "The Last Time I Saw Richard" sheet music Hi Rick, and Welcome. I can't hook you up with the sheet music but with all the extraordinary keyboardists we have here I'm sure someone can. Good luck! Bob NP: Elliot Smith, "Don't Go Down" - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 20:23:20 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: My Generation The glory of the English language is how readily it adapts and morphs. "Boob" is now a verb! LAHM ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 20:40:09 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: JONI: A Dog or a Goddess? Monika, no offense, but your brother reminds me of someone who's at age level with Hillary Duff and Hannah Montana and little sister Spears. Joni makes him want to vomit with her looks? She's "fugly?" Is that fucking ugly? How old are they? - ------------------------------------------- Yes, "fugly" is fucking ugly. My brother is 18 but he really does act more like he's about 12 a good load of the time. My sister is 27 but she never said "fugly" as much as she just made the fact be known. And he said Joni makes him want to vomit not because of her looks per se, but because he's tired of hearing about her/hearing her music. Yet let me tell you, he's the one who will make some stupid comment and bring her up to me. So...? But I don't take most of what he says to heart because with what I've told you, how can you? Plus I do tease him quite a bit and can actually be very harsh... The ironic thing is, that I get along better with my brother. Not that my sister is a Joni fan either. She told me straight up once when I was showing her a clip of something from a DVD (I just try to share the joy man!), "Monika, I don't care. I don't like Joni Mitchell. She's annoying and I don't like her music." - -Monika, tries to spread the joy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 20:42:09 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: VLJC JONI: A Dog or a Goddess? So next time your brother starts in, just blast her CDs well within earshot of him and just smile as he begins to hurl LOL!! - ------------------------------- Oh, will do! We go grocery shopping tomorrow and I always drive so....I'll bring along a Joni cd and he'll have no say in it! Live and learn. - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 21:07:44 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: "The Last Time I Saw Richard" sheet music I checked the "recalled version" of Joni Mitchell Complete songbook and they have a damn "piano arranged for guitar" version--in fact they do this for all piano songs. I hope they correct this in the revised edition, if it ever comes out. I can read music, but I don't read tab well--some kind of dyslexia, I guess. They do tell you how to tune the dulcimer, however. Anyway there's not a bass clef to be found in the whole songbook. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 7:47 PM To: Rick Steckles; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: "The Last Time I Saw Richard" sheet music Hi Rick, and Welcome. I can't hook you up with the sheet music but with all the extraordinary keyboardists we have here I'm sure someone can. Good luck! Bob NP: Elliot Smith, "Don't Go Down" - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 11:09:43 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: "The Last Time I Saw Richard" sheet music Hi Rick, Stephen. You can save it as a .pdf in Photoshop. If you don't have Photoshop, send the scan to me and I'll do it for you. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 21:09:17 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: My Generation Detroit in '68? No, Berkeley in '74 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 7:03 PM To: Randy Remote; JMDL Subject: Re: My Generation - --- Randy Remote wrote: > the last time I saw her boob. There's a song in there somewhere. Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 21:47:09 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Joni & Woodstock? How come there are some performances I have seen of Joni playing "Woodstock" but walking off the stage still playing it and singing it off mic and then disappearing all together before the song ends? I'm presuming this has to have a symbolic meaning for the song and that generation? You know, those times are gone, that's the past, things of that nature, the dream is over, etc etc. Am I right in that? Has Joni ever said anything about this in interviews? - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 21:45:33 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Mavis Staples' "We'll Never Turn Back" njc Mavis Staples is the sassy voice in classic rock chestnuts like "I'll Take You There" and "Respect Yourself". The recent CD "Have A Little Faith" got a lot of play here in Casa de Lama. Now there's a new one, "We'll Never Turn Back". While there was nothing wrong with the tasteful, varied, and detailed production of the last one, this year's disc was produced by Ry Cooder, the king of popularizing world music. Other familiar names on board: Mike Elizondo & Jim Keltner. More news as it develops. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 22:06:54 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "The Dream" updated, njc I meant to write this weeks ago but didn't. Although I'm a white guy, I'm listening to Mavis and thinking about civil rights. In my opinion, Dr. King's dream was an update of Jefferson's ideal democracy. As I understood him, one of the key goals that Dr. King set out for our generation was to get financial equality, up and down Main Street. It's great that everyone, regardless of ethnicity, can vote in the US but there were many obstacles for black folks in the 1960s. Although the struggle will never be over, the case of Don Imus shows that progress has been made since Dr. King was assasinated. Major corporations withdrew their advertising dollars after Imus called female athletes from a southern college "nappy-headed hoes". (!) That pressure was exactly the kind of financial progress Dr. King was calling for. All the best, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 21:20:48 -0500 From: "AJ" Subject: Re: Baez not allowed to sing for soldiers at Walter Reed NJC - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Bennett" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Baez not allowed to sing for soldiers at Walter Reed NJC > Clearly, this administration supports the war but not the troops who were > sent hastily into battle without a plan or the appropriate equipment > Not to mention that when the troops come back severely wounded, the admininstration doesn't seem to give a damn until pressed by the media. Kind of reminds me of the radical pro-life people who seem to care about foetuses a lot more than they care about living babies and children. - --aj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 02:35:52 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, TV alert for PBS's "American Masters" show on Ahmet Ertegun Hello Dears! Check your local listings for this. I'm trying to watch it now, in between catching up on emails and stuff, and you know there may be more. (Wizard of Paz, how do you handle all of this travelling, travelling, travelling all the time?) Love & Peace, Patti P., porous with travel fever NPOMTV: I think I just heard "Love is coming to us all!" from the other room Voila more information from my local paper: Atlantic Records Pioneer Ahmet Ertegun Profiled On `American Masters' May 2, 2007 Roger Catlin, Hartford Courant The unexpected death late last year of Ahmet Ertegun, the bon vivant, taste-making founder of Atlantic Records, put a bit of a wrench into the nearly completed profile of him for "American Masters" (CPTV, 10 p.m.; WGBY, Channel 57, 9 p.m.). With some time, the death, from injuries sustained in a fall backstage at a Rolling Stones concert, would have fit in logically into his full life of hobnobbing with stars and always being in the middle of things. As it is, it gets only a cursory mention in the portrait, narrated by Bette Midler. It begins with some marvelous stories of how the son of a Turkish ambassador snuck out of school to see the jazz music he loved in Harlem and founded a label that struck gold by mining rhythm 'n' blues and, later, signing English acts such as Cream, Led Zeppelin and the Rolling Stones because they all shared his love for early American blues music. "Atlantic Records: The House That Ahmet Built" benefits from the subject bantering with many of the musicians he worked with, from Ray Charles to Ben E. King to Mick Jagger. _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger. Join the im Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 16:35:53 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: My Generation >> the last time I saw her boob. > > There's a song in there somewhere. > > > Catherine the last time ever I saw her boob.... I felt the earth shake And my wife's elbow in my rib ....that's all I have so far ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 22:52:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: njc, TV alert for PBS's "American Masters" show on Ahmet Ertegun Fabulous show and some Joni content. David Geffen told the story of he and Joni staying behind in NYC and Joni writing Woodstock in his apartment on 59th. Funny synchronicity, since I am home on crutches and bored I watched the 4 hour Director's Cut of Woodstock on VH1 Classic. Turns out Ahmet owned the rights to the recording and film but inadvertently sold the when he sold to Time Warner. The film and album made way more than the 17 million he got for Atlantic Records. Don't miss the show when they rebroadcast it. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 20:02:42 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Baez not allowed to sing for soldiers at Walter Reed NJC To me, life is life, be it in the womb or just newly born outside and next to it's mommy's womb before they cut the umbilical cord (when pro-abortionists {pro-death folks..the hemlock society, euthanasia advocates, etc} think life begins). But I know what you mean. Some people don't have an inkling about a thing and they just go screaming off the top of their heads, be them radical pro-lifers or radical pro-deathers. > Not to mention that when the troops come back > severely > wounded, the admininstration doesn't seem to give a > damn > until pressed by the media. > > Kind of reminds me of the radical pro-life people > who > seem to care about foetuses a lot more than they > care > about living babies and children. > > --aj > Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 03:11:41 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: njc, TV alert for PBS's "American Masters" show on Ahmet Ertegun Merde, alors! I missed the Joni content while I was jmdl-ing. Jerry, I'm so sorry to hear you are on crutches. May you soon graduate to "Jerry, get out your cane." Love, Patti P., wanting to write about Joan Baez not being allowed to play but, yawn.....just too tired. Pleasant dreamland, tout le Joni Monde! > >Fabulous show and some Joni content. David Geffen told the story of he and >Joni staying behind in NYC and Joni writing Woodstock in his apartment on >59th. Funny synchronicity, since I am home on crutches and bored I watched >the 4 hour Director's Cut of Woodstock on VH1 Classic. Turns out Ahmet >owned the rights to the recording and film but inadvertently sold the when >he sold to Time Warner. The film and album made way more than the 17 >million he got for Atlantic Records. Don't miss the show when they >rebroadcast it. > >Jerry > _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 20:14:56 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: JONI: A Dog or a Goddess? That's sweet of you, Monika. Don't stop trying spreading that joy around. Back in the early 80's, I took some foreign friends who were attending UTAustin to see Joni there in Austin. A whole bunch of my husband's friends, who were all mechanical engineering majors there at UT got together for the concert...Americans, Iranians, Afghanis, Argentines, Lesbians, Gays, Older, Younger, me...I MADE the foreigners go. We had an awesome evening...another night when everybody was awestruck with Joni. Let me tell you, the foreigners taste in women was more like the Sophia Loren look, but when they saw Joni, man, they lay down their qualms. They were in love with the blond beyond the bleachers and they were very grateful to me and they liked it even more because she was Canadian. Pretty Girl, Joni! - --- Motitan@aol.com wrote: > Monika, no offense, but your brother reminds me of > someone who's at age > level with Hillary Duff and Hannah Montana and > little sister Spears. > Joni makes him want to vomit with her looks? > She's "fugly?" > Is that fucking ugly? > How old are they? > ------------------------------------------- > Yes, "fugly" is fucking ugly. My brother is 18 > but he really does act > more like he's about 12 a good load of the time. > My sister is 27 but she > never said "fugly" as much as she just made the fact > be known. And he said Joni > makes him want to vomit not because of her looks > per se, but because he's > tired of hearing about her/hearing her music. Yet > let me tell you, he's the one > who will make some stupid comment and bring her up > to me. So...? But I > don't take most of what he says to heart because > with what I've told you, how > can you? Plus I do tease him quite a bit and can > actually be very harsh... > The ironic thing is, that I get along better with > my brother. Not that my > sister is a Joni fan either. She told me straight > up once when I was showing her > a clip of something from a DVD (I just try to share > the joy man!), "Monika, > I don't care. I don't like Joni Mitchell. She's > annoying and I don't like > her music." > -Monika, tries to spread the joy > > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. > Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 00:18:37 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: njc, TV alert for PBS's "American Masters" show on Ahmet Ertegun I set the VCR for the rebroadcast at 2.30 a.m. EST Thursday. Speaking of TV alerts did anyone catch Patti Smith on The Tonight Show last night? She performed Gimme Shelter, it was excellent. I'm sorry to hear you're on crutches Jerry, I'll light a healing candle for you. Warmly, Cassy NP: The Red Wings hockey game ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 23:38:55 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Starart In 1979, author Debby Chesher published what has become one of the most sought-after books in anyone's Joni collection, "Starart". A collection of artwork by stars mainly known as musicians (Cat Stevens, Ron Wood, Klaus Voorman, and others including Joni), this book often commands hundreds of dollars on eBay and in used book stores. Debby has dug into her archives and is now selling her remaining stock that has been stored for the past 28 years. Check her website at http://www.cheshercat.com for information on how to purchase this important and valuable document. No other book - so far - includes such a wide representation of Joni's artwork. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 23:21:28 -0700 From: Subject: First Joni Catherine wrote: >I'm 54 (a full deck plus a couple of jokers). I'm not quite there yet but love that line and plan on using it! LOL As a very young teen I knew about Joni before her first album through a musical prodigy friend who somehow had a line on all the Canadian songwriters even though she was way out in SoCal. When STAS came out I had to have it and just was HOOKED. It was like someone (Joni) had finally written everything I felt even right down to the melody in my soul. No one else came so close to being on my own internal wavelength. I bought every subsequent album as soon as it was released and each time I was astounded at how she seemed to mirror my own feelings and experiences. So many have had the same reaction. FTR was an album that really saved my life at the time. She did lose me a bit in the later years with HOSL and Hejira. That is where we parted ways emotionally but I still revered her artistically and in later years I realized how much HOSL, Hejira and DJRD were so far ahead of their time in every way. No matter what I always rushed to buy every new release. I remember the drought of a few years until WTRF was released and embraced wholeheartedly it because I'd missed her. DED is another that I didn't appreciate until later. I thought Chalkmark, however, was really gorgeous and the beginning of her return to Joni. Night Ride Home was her full return and TI was a masterpiece. I did notice the Klein influence in the 80s and did not like it because I felt her essence was compromised. To some extent her essence was compromised in the late 70s music, too. Sure it is what she wanted to do at the time and I will respect that but I always thought Joni's own "voice" should never be "enhanced" with others' input. I'm a purist that way. The whole is stunning, nonetheless. Kakki ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #180 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------