From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #174 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, April 30 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 174 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) [jeannie ] Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) [Victor Johnson ] RE: anyone tracking reviews of the new JM tribute CD? ["=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sa] Re: Miles Beyond ["AJ" ] YouTube: Joni Mitchell in Canada 1965 ["=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Jer=F3nimo?] Re: YouTube: Joni Mitchell in Canada 1965 ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Miles Beyond [Michael Flaherty ] Re: Miles Beyond [Michael Flaherty ] Re:Tracking Reviews of the New JM Tribute CD [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) [Em ] Re: YouTube: Joni Mitchell in Canada 1965 [Motitan@aol.com] Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) [Motitan@aol.com] Joni & Jaco [Motitan@aol.com] Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: BMR ["Randy Remote" ] Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) [Wtking59@cs.com] Re: Dems "debate" NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Joni & Jaco ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) [jeannie ] Tribute review ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: Tribute review [Bob Muller ] Re: Tribute review [RoseMJoy@aol.com] daniela nardi [] RE: square njc ["Hell" ] Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) ["Bree Mcdonough" ] SV: Tribute review ["Marion Leffler" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:54:37 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) Okay now, Trivia of the Day, Bree. What prime time politician didn't know how to spell tomato at a classroom setting photo-op session back in the 80's? Jean Wtking59@cs.com wrote: Q U E S T I O N o f t h e D A Y !!! Just curious, Bree (and pleeeeze be honest here!) ... How do YOU pronounce the word "nuclear"--do you say "NU-clee-er" (as it should be), or "NU-cu-ler" (like you-know-who)? Inquiring minds would reeeeally like to know! ;-) XXXOOO, Billy Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj . - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:16:01 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: BMR From: "Dave Blackburn" > Well, as I said Monika, I can't think of many other songs that reveal > this same irony-free or doubt-free sweetness; possibly See you > Sometime. The tortured intellect is absent here, while the girl > needing comfort is visible. How about "My Old Man"? "All I Want"? BMR was one of my early favorites on Hejira. It has a more traditional form, with a bridge. The others are more A-A-A Dylanesque ala Desire. Also, this and the other songs on Hejira are Joni's first foray into playing electric guitar-in fact she plays all the songs on Hejira on electric, I thinks....Her delivery took on some elements of Billie Holiday on this song and the rest of the album, too. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:30:17 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) Officer: Next weekend, we're having our annual war games. Now Simpson, because of your many years as a nuclear technician, we're putting you on a nuclear sub. Homer: "Nuc-u-lar". It's pronounced "nuc-u-lar". Officer: Oh, whatever. Homer: "Nuc-u-lar". - -------------------------------------------------------------- Marge: Next to Spring and Winter, Fall is my absolute favorite season. Just look at all this beautiful foilage. Lisa: It's not "foilage," mom, it's "foliage." Foo-liage. Marge: That's what I said, foilage. It doesn't take a nucular scientist to pronounce foilage. Lisa: [growls] - --------------------------------------------------------------- Peter says to Lois, "Haha! You said nuclear; it's nucular, dummy; the 's' is silent." On Apr 29, 2007, at 1:43 AM, Wtking59@cs.com wrote: > Q U E S T I O N o f t h e D A Y !!! > > Just curious, Bree (and pleeeeze be honest here!) ... > > How do YOU pronounce the word "nuclear"--do you say "NU-clee- > er" (as it > should be), or "NU-cu-ler" (like you-know-who)? > > Inquiring minds would reeeeally like to know! ;-) > > > XXXOOO, > Billy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:44:10 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Australia World Cup Champions!! (njc) Lest anything think that we here in the states are oblivious to what's going on in the rest of the world (incorrectly I might add), congratulations to Australia for defeating Sri Lanka to win their third straight Cricket World Cup! Victor, with one week of exams to go! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 05:50:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) I pronounce it correctly, of course. Why say a word if you're not going to say it right? The other one that eats at me is "RE-LA-TOR" instead of "RE-AL-TOR". Everytime Joni tells the Magdalene Laundries story I cringe because I know she is going to say Re-la-tor. Bob NP: Elvis C, "Indoor Fireworks" - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:23:24 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Jer=F3nimo?=" Subject: RE: anyone tracking reviews of the new JM tribute CD? Hi everyone, I found a review of the new tribute record on the most important portuguese newspaper. Next to the review, the critic also wrote a medium text (two pages) about her life and expectations on "Shine". But about the tribute record: it received 1,5 out of 5. The critic (o good one) said that although the music is good (he likes Joni Mitchell a lot), these new versions don't make them justice, except, as he said, the ones sung by Emmylou Harris and Caetano Veloso. Samuel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:23:50 -0500 From: "AJ" Subject: Re: Miles Beyond - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: ; Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:13 AM Subject: Re: Miles Beyond > The Bobster (scjoniguy@yahoo.com) wrote: >>>>it's not like I don't like MOA - I do. But not nearly as much as S&L.<<< > > That's exactly the way "I" feel--only in reverse! ;-) > > >>>>the *sound* of the band on MOA is dated, (but) I can certainly see how > lots of people prefer it to the more challenging avant-fusion sounds on > S&L.<<< > > GREAT, Bob--I know "I" certainly do. I think it depends on which period of > Joni's music you most prefer, as I consider the groundbreaking pre-'75 era > considerably different from the post-'75 work. And I also feel that the > "sound" of > the band on MOA has aged very well (okay--maybe "Big Yellow Taxi" and > "Carey" > are slightly dated). At LEAST they knew something about subtlety and > restraint. By comparison--when listening to S&L--I often feel like > screaming (to Jaco > and Pat): "pick a NOTE, for chrisakes!" (LOL). > > And yet, I admit that the band on S&L probably WAS her most innovative and > challenging group ever. But my point is that "innovative and challenging" > doesn't always mean it's the most "appropriate." > I am only passingly familiar with Shadows and Light, though I intend to change that status soon, and do love MOA, and have since the day it came out on vinyl. I do agree that "innovative and challenging" does not necessarily make a work of art better. "The Sound and' The Fury," for instance, is far more innovative and challenging than "Absalom, Absalom," but most of the Faulkner critics I know (and I know a lot) would agree with me that "Absalom, Absalom" is the greater novel. Same analogy would hold true for "finnegans wake" and "Ulysses." - --AJ Now listening to: snippets of Ellington on the Sunday CBS Morning Show. I shall be listening to more Ellington today. I love Ellington and think that when the twentieth century is assessed from more distance, Ellington will be right up there with not just the greatest musicians of the century, but the greatest artists! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:27:19 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Jer=F3nimo?=" Subject: YouTube: Joni Mitchell in Canada 1965 I discovered this recently: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBdC8lORHh8 We were so young :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:47:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: YouTube: Joni Mitchell in Canada 1965 How wonderful this has made its way to YouTube. There is a DVD around with various Joni early television appearances. Wasn't she just gorgeous? No wonder all those men were bewitched. Let's Sing Out was sort of Canada's Hootenanny. If you ever get a hold of the DVD it is astonishing to observe how quickly she goes from the shy Joan Anderson to the confident Joni Mitchell. Jerry Samuel Jersnimo wrote: > I discovered this recently: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBdC8lORHh8 > > > > We were so young :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:43:24 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: BMR It also might be the only song lyric where she refers to herself by name "you tell those girls that you've got Joni..." On Apr 29, 2007, at 1:16 AM, Randy Remote wrote: > From: "Dave Blackburn" >> Well, as I said Monika, I can't think of many other songs that >> reveal this same irony-free or doubt-free sweetness; possibly See >> you Sometime. The tortured intellect is absent here, while the >> girl needing comfort is visible. > > > How about "My Old Man"? "All I Want"? > BMR was one of my early favorites on Hejira. > It has a more traditional form, with a bridge. The others > are more A-A-A Dylanesque ala Desire. Also, this and the > other songs on Hejira are Joni's first foray into playing > electric guitar-in fact she plays all the songs on Hejira > on electric, I thinks....Her delivery took on some elements > of Billie Holiday on this song and the rest of the album, > too. > RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:25:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Miles Beyond Wtking59@cs.com wrote: >>>>And yet, I admit that the band on S&L probably WAS her most innovative and challenging group ever. But my point is that "innovative and challenging" doesn't always mean it's the most "appropriate." As is generally the case with Joni's music, I agree with Bob. As we move into taste there's not much more to say beyond "I like this, while you like that", but I do have to defend Jaco. I think his playing always fit Joni's post-C & S music perfectly, accenting what was, after all, not simple music. I'm sure we can all at least agree that he gave Joni exactly what she was looking for at the time--otherwise he wouldn't have been her lead player for 3 albums and a tour. Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:30:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Miles Beyond AJ wrote: >>>>Same analogy would hold true for "finnegans wake" and "Ulysses." I would argue that "Ulysses", if less "challenging", is more innovative than "finnagans wake", but I get your point. ;) Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:02:21 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re:Tracking Reviews of the New JM Tribute CD > anyone tracking reviews of the new JM tribute CD? > Kevin O'Donnell, in the latest issue of Rolling Stone, gives it three stars, saying: "This... is all over the place in terms of quality and in the variety of artists involved..." and, "The highlights: Stevens' uptempo "Free Man In Paris," complete with trumpet fanfare, and Prince's version of "A Case Of You," which he turns into an ace piano ballad. But Sarah McLachlan and Annie Lennox don't do Mitchell any favors with their tepid covers of "Blue" and "Ladies Of THe Canyon," respectively, which verge on New Age schlock." I haven't heard it yet so I'll put it on my birthday wish list and weigh in after listening myself. Kenny B ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:12:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) definately the former... Em - --- Wtking59@cs.com wrote: > Q U E S T I O N o f t h e D A Y !!! > > Just curious, Bree (and pleeeeze be honest here!) ... > > How do YOU pronounce the word "nuclear"--do you say "NU-clee-er" (as > it > should be), or "NU-cu-ler" (like you-know-who)? > > Inquiring minds would reeeeally like to know! ;-) > > > XXXOOO, > Billy > http://www.myspace.com/emzdogz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:16:31 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: YouTube: Joni Mitchell in Canada 1965 How wonderful this has made its way to YouTube. There is a DVD around with various Joni early television appearances. Wasn't she just gorgeous? No wonder all those men were bewitched. Let's Sing Out was sort of Canada's Hootenanny. If you ever get a hold of the DVD it is astonishing to observe how quickly she goes from the shy Joan Anderson to the confident Joni Mitchell. Jerry - ------------------------------------------------------------ Oh YouTube, my distant and one sided love (I can't watch any YouTube from my home computer...only when I make random trips to the library do I get to watch it or if at a friend's house sometimes). I'll make sure to watch this next time I do go. 1965? Wow. That is VERY early. The earliest Joni performances I have seen come from a DVD I won at Jonifest. It's very short with her performing a few songs and even one song twice (two different tv appearances). She does Night In The City, the Dawntreader, The Way It Is (is that what it is called? This appearance was the first time I ever heard this song), the Cirle Game, and a few others. This is '67 or '68. She didn't really say too much when the host talked to her after the performance. She seemed a little bit nervous. Now the first Joni performance I ever watched was the Dick Cavett Show (sorry if I always repeat myself or mention the same things). I mention this appearance again because well it was the FIRST performance (I never seen Joni on DVD before) I watched because of Joni (I had seen her performance in Roger Waters' Wall Concert but that was a while ago and I had gotten that concert for Roger Waters). I liked her performance but it was so strange because she seemed nervous. Which obviously is no big deal (being nervous) but I thought wow, Joni Mitchell nervous. From my preconceptions of her from what I had read and heard about her (a lot from CSN and Neil Young books) I didn't think she would EVER be nervous. I mean, even in the interview part of the show (in the midst of friends like Crosby and Stills who appeared too and others like Jefferson Airplane) she was pretty quiet comparatively speaking. Now Grace Slick and David Crosby were yappin' away at the whole interview. Anyway, but now I see DVDS from the 90's or clips from then or around then and Joni looks like she doesn't give a shit (and I mean that in a good way). I mean she still cares about the music but as you mentioned she is the confident Joni Mitchell. And of course this "transformation" happened much earlier on than the 90's but I'm only saying...with the passing of time and all. I mean you can see clips on the Woman of Heart and Mind DVD from the early 70's and Joni is just mindblowing. No nerves about it man. - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:21:52 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) I say nu-cle-ar but if OUR President says nu-cu-lar then that must be the way. Afterall, since when has Bush let us down? Or any other politician for that matter? Unheard of! Hahaha, Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:44:49 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Joni & Jaco I have noticed there are some very, very passionate Jaco Pastorius fans from this list and from reading reviews of Joni concerts/cds that Jaco is featured on. My question is, why did they stop working/playing (is playing music working? Yes and no!) together? I realize musicians want different sounds and want to continue moving forward (the good ones atleast) yet it makes me wonder. Did Joni ever say anything about it? Is it because she moved out of the jazz swing for a bit or because of Larry Klein or because Jaco had other obligations or more likely a combination of various reasons? - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:51:44 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) Jean.. Have you ever been duck hunting? or QUAYLE? "I am ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur" on the jonilist Bree. .. who also thinks.."I'm not part of the problem. I am a Replubican" And " the futrure will be better tomorrow >Okay now, Trivia of the Day, Bree. > > What prime time politician didn't know how to spell tomato at a >classroom setting photo-op session back in the 80's? > > > > Jean > > > >Wtking59@cs.com wrote: > Q U E S T I O N o f t h e D A Y !!! > >Just curious, Bree (and pleeeeze be honest here!) ... > >How do YOU pronounce the word "nuclear"--do you say "NU-clee-er" (as it >should be), or "NU-cu-ler" (like you-know-who)? > >Inquiring minds would reeeeally like to know! ;-) > > >XXXOOO, >Billy > > > >Dreaming Dreamland, > Jeannie > > > > > > > >jjj > > > > > >. > >--------------------------------- >Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. _________________________________________________________________ Dont quit your job  Take Classes Online and Earn your Degree in 1 year. Start Today! http://www.classesusa.com/clickcount.cfm?id=866146&goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.classesusa.com%2Ffeaturedschools%2Fonlinedegreesmp%2Fform-dyn1.html%3Fsplovr%3D866144 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:59:09 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: BMR and Chinese cafe Well this may be a bit unrelated to BMR, but we were talking about sweetness and vulnerability, and it made me think of Chinese Cafe. I only know the Tlog version, and have mixed feelings for that album, but one of the things that touch me is how she sings 'Oh my love my darling...' I don't know it is as if she opens a window to her soul in those few lines and speaks in a different language, just like on Blue Motel Room. There is something great about how she borrows someone else's lines and admits getting swept away by them. Incoherent Joni-association of the day..... Bene In sunny and pretty and spring-flower-scented Cambridge. The tourists are punting and the birds are chirping and I am typing away on my diss... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:00:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Joni & Jaco Motitan@aol.com wrote: >>> Did Joni ever say anything about it? Is it because she moved out of the jazz swing for a bit or because of Larry Klein or because Jaco had other obligations or more likely a combination of various reasons? - -Monika Well, the marriage to a bass player was a huge reason. Obviously, she wanted Klien with her, and Larry brought her to a more pop/rock sound; for better or for worse is a matter of opinion. Also, in the 80s Jaco became fairly erractic. The reasons for this, and how severe his problem was, remain open to debate, but his best work was over. (Joni would surely have switched to Klien anyway.) Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:26:06 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: BMR The only other one I can think of is Facelift: "He said you've seen too many movies, Joni" From: "Dave Blackburn" > It also might be the only song lyric where she refers to herself by > name "you tell those girls that you've got Joni..." > > > On Apr 29, 2007, at 1:16 AM, Randy Remote wrote: > >> From: "Dave Blackburn" >>> Well, as I said Monika, I can't think of many other songs that >>> reveal this same irony-free or doubt-free sweetness; possibly See >>> you Sometime. The tortured intellect is absent here, while the >>> girl needing comfort is visible. >> >> >> How about "My Old Man"? "All I Want"? >> BMR was one of my early favorites on Hejira. >> It has a more traditional form, with a bridge. The others >> are more A-A-A Dylanesque ala Desire. Also, this and the >> other songs on Hejira are Joni's first foray into playing >> electric guitar-in fact she plays all the songs on Hejira >> on electric, I thinks....Her delivery took on some elements >> of Billie Holiday on this song and the rest of the album, >> too. >> RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:22:04 EDT From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) YYYYIKES !!! But since you asked: when referring to a horses back-end, I simply say "Dubya" (LOL)! :-D XXXOOO, Billy P.S. By the way, Bree: who in the world is law51011@lausd.net (whom you apparently forwarded my post to)? ====================================== Bree replied (privately, I might add): >>>The former. And when you refer to a horses back end ..do you say horses ass or horses arse?<<< ====================================== I'd previously asked: >>>Just curious, Bree (and pleeeeze be honest here!) ... How do YOU pronounce the word "nuclear"--do you say "NU-clee-er" (as it should be), or "NU-cu-ler" (like you-know-who)? Inquiring minds would reeeeally like to know!<<< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:36:23 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Dems "debate" NJC Hi Jean.... Well...I think because it is still way early...none of them have quite lighted my fire yet. By the way..Bush 41 did make the admission that there is some Bush fatigue out there. I didn't support McCain in 2000..though a decent person...and I like that he is not so scripted...but I'm a little leary of his temperament. Rudy Giuliani would be another candidate who doesn't appear so wooden....and handled. Mitt Romney...although he looks very presidential..tall..handsome...a wonderful speaking voice...I think he might have that chameleon problem? Gilmore...background says he is a true conservative...but I don't know him. Brownback...I don't think he has a snowballs chance. But remembering Clinton's run...the other side said the same of him. I really like Newt Gingrich...I think he will make the run if the Republican party seems fractured in the Fall. There are several others...I can't recall their names. There is a Republican debate coming up soon....I hope to gain a little insight about each of them. A little soul gazing..... munching on popcorn.. Bree >Bree, well who do you feel is right to fill in at the >oval office next? >Who would be your dream president? >I hope you don't say Jeb Bush. Pappi Bush thinks Jeb's >a good presidential candidate. Whadd'ya say 'bout >that, Bree? > >Jeannie > _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:39:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Joni & Jaco Michael Flaherty wrote: > Motitan@aol.com wrote: >>> Did Joni ever say anything about it? Is it > because she moved out of the > jazz swing for a bit or because of Larry Klein or because Jaco had other > obligations or more likely a combination of various reasons? > -Monika > > > Well, the marriage to a bass player was a huge reason. Obviously, she > wanted Klien with her, and Larry brought her to a more pop/rock sound; > for better or for worse is a matter of opinion. > > Also, in the 80s Jaco became fairly erractic. The reasons for this, and > how severe his problem was, remain open to debate I don't think it open for debate. I've had correspondence with his wife and have urged her to write a book. Jaco was a total drug addict by this point and undependable. He would leave for weeks on end with no contact with anyone. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:03:35 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) Dubya also says "secetary" for secretary. Had he been a girl and gone to my high school, the nuns would have sent his back-end to the Magdalene Monastaries to teach him proper pronunciacion and alot of other things. ;) Wtking59@cs.com wrote: YYYYIKES !!! But since you asked: when referring to a horses back-end, I simply say "Dubya" (LOL)! :-D XXXOOO, Billy P.S. By the way, Bree: who in the world is law51011@lausd.net (whom you apparently forwarded my post to)? ====================================== Bree replied (privately, I might add): >>>The former. And when you refer to a horses back end ..do you say horses ass or horses arse?<<< ====================================== I'd previously asked: >>>Just curious, Bree (and pleeeeze be honest here!) ... How do YOU pronounce the word "nuclear"--do you say "NU-clee-er" (as it should be), or "NU-cu-ler" (like you-know-who)? Inquiring minds would reeeeally like to know!<<< Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj . - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:14:26 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: YouTube: Joni Mitchell in Canada 1965 Joni is absolutely stunning--back then and ever more so now, right at this very moment of the world. "Gerald A. Notaro" wrote: How wonderful this has made its way to YouTube. There is a DVD around with various Joni early television appearances. Wasn't she just gorgeous? No wonder all those men were bewitched. Let's Sing Out was sort of Canada's Hootenanny. If you ever get a hold of the DVD it is astonishing to observe how quickly she goes from the shy Joan Anderson to the confident Joni Mitchell. Jerry Samuel Jersnimo wrote: > I discovered this recently: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBdC8lORHh8 > > > > We were so young :-) Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj . - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:36:56 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) jeannie wrote: My Dearest, Are you playing with me like I am with you or are you serious when you say you're replubican? I can't help but find you most endearing! Bree Mcdonough wrote: Jean.. Have you ever been duck hunting? or QUAYLE? "I am ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur" on the jonilist I don't like hunting, but yes, my dad would take me hunting all of the time. I just didn't aim right on fuckin' purpose and I'd go just to mess everybody's shot up and blame it on my nerves and my petit mal seizures and then if they wouldn't take me again, I'd scream, "bloody murderers." .. who also thinks.."I'm not part of the problem. I am a Replubican" And " the futrure will be better tomorrow >Okay now, Trivia of the Day, Bree. > > What prime time politician didn't know how to spell tomato at a >classroom setting photo-op session back in the 80's? > > > > Jean > > > >Wtking59@cs.com wrote: > Q U E S T I O N o f t h e D A Y !!! > >Just curious, Bree (and pleeeeze be honest here!) ... > >How do YOU pronounce the word "nuclear"--do you say "NU-clee-er" (as it >should be), or "NU-cu-ler" (like you-know-who)? > >Inquiring minds would reeeeally like to know! ;-) > > >XXXOOO, >Billy > > > >Dreaming Dreamland, > Jeannie > > > > > > > >jjj > > > > > >. > >--------------------------------- >Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. _________________________________________________________________ Dont quit your job  Take Classes Online and Earn your Degree in 1 year. Start Today! http://www.classesusa.com/clickcount.cfm?id=866146&goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.classesusa.com%2Ffeaturedschools%2Fonlinedegreesmp%2Fform-dyn1.html%3Fsplovr%3D866144 Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj . - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj . - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:11:42 -0400 From: srobe444@aol.com Subject: Repeat Songs? I always hit Dancing Clown I don't know why, but that song just makes me swing and smile ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:22:26 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: Repeat Songs? Turbulent Indigo is one on my list of repeats.... whenever I move house (once a year on average) the first thing that I play to bless the house is LOTC in full. It cleanses the air and puts Joni in there. I'm moving tomorrow and I know where the album is ready to be played! It's more lines that I repeat, more than whole songs 'Step right up folks, the show is about to begin...' If I were a painter Picasso said, I'd paint this girl from toe to head' are 2 that I can think of right now... much JOni Jamie Zoob On 29/04/07, srobe444@aol.com wrote: > I always hit Dancing Clown > > I don't know why, but that song just makes me swing and smile > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:23:42 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Tribute review Hi all, there was a review of the tribute cd in one of the two largest newpapers in Sweden on April 25. The review starts stating that many outstanding artists have had colleagues paying their respect on tribute records. But the question is if anybody ever has been able to engage a collection of artists like this one, the reviewer says. He then names them all, pointing to their different genres. "Most of them take in just enough in their own interpretations to make the trails of Joni Mitchell appear rather subtle. In this way, the record is unusually successful. It's an unusually genreless tribute to an unusually genreless artist, who never has been able to make any other music than precisely her own. But this is not a cd that you would want to listen to from the beginning to the end". A somewhat contradictory opinion, or so it seems to me. I get the feeling that the person reviewing couldn't make up his mind about the cd - is it good or not? And he does not seem to be a great fan of Joni's. Marion in Sweden ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:37:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Tribute review He may not be a big Joni fan, but I really like this sentence. Ultimately when someone asks what kind of music Joni plays, about all you can say is "Joni music". Bob NP: Ben Folds, "Landed" - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:54:40 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Tribute review Here's another review a local New Jersey paper...I'm surprised Jay Lustig didn't chime in on this one...I think the last sentence sums it all...to me anyhow... rosie in nj Both sides again Bradley Bambarger [New Jersey Star-Ledger] April 22, 2007 ____________________________________ "A Tribute to Joni Mitchell" Various Artists (Nonesuch) Tribute albums are notoriously tricky. Measuring up to an artist worthy of homage is one thing. Tribute discs are also often designed around a particular label's roster, so hit-making status or promotional considerations can determine who sings what tune as much as any affinity for the material. And some artists are oddly inimitable. Joni Mitchell's songs often seem to resist the touch of others, the sophisticated chords and jazzy rhythm of the vocal lines almost as personal as the densely poetic lyrics. Although Bob Dylan is an individualist's individualist, there are myriad Dylan covers worth hearing; there are relatively few enduring interpretations of Mitchell's songs, notwithstanding Judy Collins' 1968 hit with "Both Sides Now" and the defining version of "Woodstock" by Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. "A Tribute to Joni Mitchell" aimed to rectify this at a stroke. Initially a Warner Bros. project, the album languished due to corporate shifts, with artier associated label Nonesuch finally picking it up. Several tracks are previously released '90s material -- B-sides by Annie Lennox (a bland, dated "Ladies of the Canyon") and Sarah McLachlan (an overwrought "Blue"), plus a too-sweet version of "River" from a James Taylor Christmas album. On record as a Mitchell devotee, Prince offers a one-man-band cover of "A Case of You." His account is disappointingly bloodless, though, with its hotel-bar piano and multi-tracked falsetto; only the coda's funky fade hints at what might've been. Far more compelling is Cassandra Wilson's stark take on "For the Roses," which she makes her own with chanteuse intensity, woody double-bass resonating behind. Bjork remakes "The Boho Dance" in her own avant-pop image, too, the tinkling celeste and off-kilter vocal making the song sound like a poem beamed from another planet. A far straighter affair is "Help Me" by k.d. lang, no stranger to her fellow Canadian's material. Her voice can't fly like Mitchell's in her heyday, but lang invests the songwriter's poppiest, sexiest number with an appealing warmth. The lineup's newest artist is homebrewed-pop auteur Sufjan Stevens, although the ornate feyness of his "Free Man in Paris" is for fans only. Caetano Veloso's Brazilian take on "Dreamland" sounds as foreign as a polar bear in Rio. And Mitchell's lyrics sound nearly as strange in the mouths of Elvis Costello ("Edith and the Kingpin") and Emmylou Harris ("The Magdalene Laundries"). Jazz pianist Brad Mehldau avoids that trouble with an attractive, wordless rendition of "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow." The most illuminating remake of a Mitchell song is by the songwriter herself - -- of "Both Sides Now," the title track to her 2000 album of the same title (mostly of jazz standards). This version ups the emotional ante to an almost unbearable degree, the orchestral strings aching nostalgia, the phrasing as deep as the words, her voice weathered like a sepia photograph as the older woman sings of love's lessons learned. ____________________________________ Copyrighted material on this website is used in accordance with 'Fair Use', for the purpose of study, review or critical analysis, and will be removed at the request of the copyright owner(s). ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:31:49 -1000 From: Subject: daniela nardi just heard one of her songs on the local sunday jazz show and thought 'hey that sounds kind of joni' and sure enough after a quick web search guess what......shes from canada and her reviews mention joni although i think shes been influenced by joni more than they say. id like to listen to an interview and hear what she sez. her website has audio shorties....i ordered the cd thru amazon..15.00 delivered to hawaii..i wonder if her name has popped up before on the list? http://www.danielanardi.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:04:09 +1200 From: "Hell" Subject: RE: square njc Marianne wrote: > how much square footage do you live in? Total property size? 236,800 square feet = 5.5 acres Hell (in Awhitu, NZ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:39:57 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) Billy...I thought I was sending my post to the list? Lot on mind lately...so it's fine. Take care.. Bree ====================================== >Bree replied (privately, I might add): > > >>>The former. And when you refer to a horses back end ..do you say horses >ass or horses arse?<<< > > > ====================================== >I'd previously asked: > > >>>Just curious, Bree (and pleeeeze be honest here!) ... > >How do YOU pronounce the word "nuclear"--do you say "NU-clee-er" (as it >should be), or "NU-cu-ler" (like you-know-who)? > > Inquiring minds would reeeeally like to know!<<< _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:57:29 -0400 From: srobe444@aol.com Subject: Re: Repeat Songs? Yvette is a beautiful song but sounds very much like The Only Boy in Town doesn't it? Really the same sonf from a reverse gender perspective, no? - -----Original Message----- From: jamiezubairi@gmail.com To: srobe444@aol.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Repeat Songs? Turbulent Indigo is one on my list of repeats.... whenever I move house (once a year on average) the first thing that I play to bless the house is LOTC in full. It cleanses the air and puts Joni in there. I'm moving tomorrow and I know where the album is ready to be played! It's more lines that I repeat, more than whole songs 'Step right up folks, the show is about to begin...' If I were a painter Picasso said, I'd paint this girl from toe to head' are 2 that I can think of right now... much JOni Jamie Zoob On 29/04/07, srobe444@aol.com wrote: > I always hit Dancing Clown > > I don't know why, but that song just makes me swing and smile > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:06:26 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: NJC "NU-cle-ar" or "NU-cu-lar" ;-) Dear Jean.. Yes...I am. There are others out here beside me. I don't know if that if that is a surprise to you or not? We...I 'm here for you when you come around. To quote Carl Sagan..."Billions and Billions." Until then ... Bree >jeannie wrote: My Dearest, > > Are you playing with me like I am with you or are you serious when you >say you're replubican? > > I can't help but find you most endearing! > >Bree Mcdonough wrote: > Jean.. > >Have you ever been duck hunting? or QUAYLE? "I am ready for any >unforeseen event that may or may not occur" on the jonilist > > I don't like hunting, but yes, my dad would take me hunting all of the >time. I just didn't aim right on fuckin' purpose and I'd go just to mess >everybody's shot up and blame it on my nerves and my petit mal seizures and >then if they wouldn't take me again, I'd scream, "bloody murderers." > >.. who also thinks.."I'm not part of the problem. I am a Replubican" And > >" the futrure will be better tomorrow > >Okay now, Trivia of the Day, Bree. > > > > What prime time politician didn't know how to spell tomato at a > >classroom setting photo-op session back in the 80's? > > Jean _________________________________________________________________ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:31:25 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Songs you repeat? Joni Songs I usually have to listen to again if I hear them... like Lays Potato Chips: Ladies' Man Urge for Going Jericho Don Juan's Reckless Daughter Shades of Scarlet Conquering In France They Kiss on Main Street The Tea Leaf Prophecy Joni Album that can run all day for days in my car before I even think of changing it: For the Roses Songs by others I usually repeat: Wedding Bell Blues - Laura Nyro Old Man - Neil Young Since You've Asked - Judy Collins Boogie On Reggae Woman - Stevie Wonder Vertigo- U2 Waters of March - Basia Sweet Love - Anita Baker ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:50:38 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: square, njc An Inquirer asked: > how much square footage do you live in? > > I hope you answer > It depends on who you is and if you is in the movies or not. If you is me then: When I'm standing, both feet together add up to just shy of one square foot. When I'm sitting, buns and thighs add up to just shy of two square feet. When I'm laying down, it all adds up to about 6 square feet. Love, An Answerer NP: Little Green Bag ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:31:24 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Tribute review He may not be a big Joni fan, but I really like this sentence. Ultimately when someone asks what kind of music Joni plays, about all you can say is "Joni music". - ------------------------------------------------------------------- True, true. However, sometimes I have discussions with my brother or the rare few who ask (and later wish they hadn't who have atleast heard of Joni Mitchell) about Joni's music. I always say she's dabbled in rock, folk, jazz, just has really experimented and can't be pinned down. And you know what my brother always says to this or what others reply? SHE'S A FOLK SINGER. I try and I try but with no luck. Honest to God I had probably a 20 minute conversation with my brother that she ISN'T simply a folk singer. And then I threw on some Joni in the car after this conversation and he went on saying, "oh hear how she just goes and sings high out of nowhere like all those other folk singers." And then he laughed thinking he was proven right. Siblings I tell you. - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:33:27 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Tribute review A somewhat contradictory opinion, or so it seems to me. I get the feeling that the person reviewing couldn't make up his mind about the cd - is it good or not? And he does not seem to be a great fan of Joni's - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --------- Well, so the question is can you like a tribute cd of an artist you don't originally like? I don't understand why you would get such a cd if you don't like the artist who is being paid respect to but....in this circumstance this is the guy's job to rate and review...... - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:44:57 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: NJC To write or not to write, that is the question? Hey people. I was just wondering if anyone would want to (or be nice enough to) read a short story I wrote? It's only 383 pages long. Just kidding, it's a mere 4 pages in length. I always have these ideas for stories, feel inspired for a couple of days, do nothing about it.....and then the moment passes with nothing written down. I've had so many good ideas simply go to waste because I didn't try to write them in the moment. That's how I write songs---I feel inspired, grab a pen and get to it. With stories and things like that, you need to actually sit down and take a load of more time to it and I just never get around to it. I mean I've written a couple of short stories before for school but this is the first one I've done it just for my own. I wrote one entire movie script before but ended up burning it because I hated it that much (lit a match and boom!). I also had written half of another movie script which I actually LIKED and would have finished if only my computer had not crashed.......and yes I saved it to a disc but on Microsoft Works, not word, so I could never open it up anywhere and have it be normal. And I used to write poetry in my teen years but that ended when I started writing songs. And with songs, I like to perform them in public. I like to share. It's part of the process to me. So with this story I'd like some people to read it. Any takers? Just email me offlist and I'd be happy to email you it. - -Monika P.S. I also don't read very much fiction so I never knew quite how to start stories or keep them going, structure wise. I mean I've read many books before but never paid attention to the intricate details...yeah. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:53:28 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Hejira travel question Ok, so it's known that the majority of Hejira was written when Joni was flying solo on her road trip across the country. But, what are the few songs that were not written on the road trip? I know Coyote is one of them. I thought there was more than just that one though. So? Thanks. - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:02:45 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: Joni Mention in People Found a small feature (with picture of CD cover) on the upcoming tribute album in People (5/7/07): Compilation of the Week: A Tribute to Joni Mitchell You know you are major when you can get Prince to bow down before you. It's a testament to the influence and importance of Mitchell that she is also worshipped by the likes of Sarah McLachlan, Annie Lennox, Bjork, Elvis Costello and James Taylor, all of whom appear on this classy salute. Clearly, they could drink a case of Joni and they'd still be on their feet. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:57:15 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Tribute review True, Bob, and I suppose I should be grateful the reviewer didnt label her a folk singerStill, he seemed to know more about the artists doing the tribute than about Joni. And by the way, forgive me for the clumsy translation! I posted very late last night, my brain had gone to sleep before my bodyIt should not read trails of Joni but traces of Joni. Have a nice Monday, Marion _____ Fren: Bob Muller [mailto:scjoniguy@yahoo.com] Skickat: den 30 april 2007 00:38 Till: Marion Leffler; 'JMDL' Dmne: Re: Tribute review He may not be a big Joni fan, but I really like this sentence. Ultimately when someone asks what kind of music Joni plays, about all you can say is "Joni music". Bob NP: Ben Folds, "Landed" _____ Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! 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