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JMDL Digest          Friday, April 27 2007          Volume 2007 : Number 171



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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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  RE: Hiroshima NJC                                    [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com]
  Re: NJC\Sound Alikes\Ry Cooder's Latest Record\Joni's NITC, BYT  [jeannie ]
  NJC Caetano Veloso                                [missblux@googlemail.com]
  Re: SV: Hiroshima NJC       ["Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>]
  Subject: Second Thought        ["Jim L'Hommedieu" <jlamadoo@sbcglobal.net>]
  A stray in the wilderness/Hiroshima NJC  [jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@yaho]
  NJC Dylan Beyond the Horizon / Red sails in the Sunset  ["Jim L'Hommedieu"]
  Wild Things Run Fast               [jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com>]
  Re: NJC Hiroshima                                         [Wtking59@cs.com]
  Fiddle and the Drum                         ["Cassy" <Siquomb@Comcast.net>]
  Re: NJC Hiroshima           ["Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>]
  Re: DJRD soon to come/Blue Motel Room/Fiddle..etc..       [Motitan@aol.com]
  A ticket to ride NJC        ["Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>]
  RE: A stray in the wilderness/Hiroshima NJC  ["Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdon]
  RE: A stray in the wilderness/Hiroshima NJC  ["Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdon]
  Re: SV: Hiroshima NJC                                    [srobe444@aol.com]
  Re: Hiroshima                                            [srobe444@aol.com]
  Re: Hiroshima                    ["Gerald A. Notaro" <notaro@stpt.usf.edu>]
  Re: Wild Things Run Fast                 [Bob Muller <scjoniguy@yahoo.com>]
  Re: DJRD soon to come/Blue Motel Room/Fiddle..etc..  [Bob Muller <scjonigu]
  Re: DJRD soon to come/Blue Motel Room/Fiddle..etc..       [Motitan@aol.com]
  RE: A stray in the wilderness/Hiroshima NJC  [jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@]
  Re: DJRD soon to come/Blue Motel Room/Fiddle..etc..  [Catherine McKay <ani]
  Re: Wild Things Run Fast           [jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com>]
  Re: SV: Hiroshima NJC               ["Randy Remote" <guitarzan@hughes.net>]

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:26:59 -0400
From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com
Subject: RE: Hiroshima NJC

<For what it's worth, Joni herself said, quoting
Myrtle, I guess, "Hiroshima cannot be pardonned.">

As well as "No Apologies" which specifically deals with the rape of 
Japanese girls by American soldiers.

Bob

NP: Laura Nyro, "Tom Cat Goodby"

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:24:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: NJC\Sound Alikes\Ry Cooder's Latest Record\Joni's NITC, BYT

- --- jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't like the comparison of Petula Clark's
> 'Downtown' to Joni's, ''Big Yellow Taxi,' though I
> do hear a slight sound of the song on one little
> part after certain stanzas. What about 'Night In The
> City'? Is there a song that sounds a little bit like
> it? To me, it seems like it may or maybe NITC
> reminds me of NITC because I've heard it so many
> times before. You Turn Me On sounds more like it a
> tiny bit.
>    
>   On other notes, 
>   there's a little guitar picking right after a
>   stanza on the latest Ry Cooder release on the song
> 'Farm Girl,' that sounds a bit like Jackson
> Browne's, 'Can We Call It A Loan.'
> Ry worked his way into the part of my heart where
> music is truth and beauty..like odes on a Grecian
> Urn.
>    
>   Thanks to Patti Yvette Parlette for telling me
> about Ry Cooder's latest, 'My Name Is Buddy.' It's a
> story about a cool cat (feline, that is) who makes
> his way onto the human scene, a Fellini style fat
> cat. It's a novel story CD, like Chavez Ravine with
> a country feel. Neil Young's novel album,
> 'Greendale,' can hold no candles to Ry's novels.
> He's absolutely incredible with his imagination. I
> love Ry Cooder and he looks so cute on the booklet
> pictures. He looks renewed and rejuvenated and he's
> even smiling a beautiful smile, twice, which is
> something unusual for Ry on his album covers. The
> manner in which the booklet that comes with the CD
> has the best layout l've ever seen after Joni's,
> 'Travelogue.'  
>    
>   I also bought Amos Lee's latest record. That guy
> is tremendously talented. Does anybody know his
> background?
>    
>   Talk to y'all later.
>    
>   
> Wtking59@cs.com wrote:
>   While we're on the subject of "sound alikes"
> (i.e., the new Dylan track 
> sounding like "Red Sails In the Sunset"): every time
> I hear the theme to 'Big 
> Valley'--the old western TV series w/Barbara
> Stanwyck (currently airing on the 
> Encore channel)--I think the melody sounds exactly
> like Joan Armatrading's "I'm 
> Lucky." ;-)
> 
> 
> XXXOOO,
> Billy
> 
> ====================================
> Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote:
> 
> >>>NP: Joan Armatrading, "I'm Lucky"<<<
> 
> 
> 
> Dreaming Dreamland,
>      Jeannie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> jjj
> 
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:36:20 +0100
From: missblux@googlemail.com
Subject: NJC Caetano Veloso

I saw Caetano Veloso in concert in London last year, in the Barbican.
I didn't know him well, but my Brazilian / Italian friends did. He had
decided to come with his son and some other young people which I
thought was a nice touch. But it was somehow a bit boring, I don't
know why, my friends felt the same.

Well boring news from me then....!

Bene

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:16:29 -0400
From: "Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: SV: Hiroshima NJC

I'm outraged!!   It wasn't me..but somone did indeed forgot the NUC.   Darn 
it!!

Just kidding...just fake outrage.    I couldn't believe what I was hearing 
and seeing on CNN just a few minutes ago ...John Murtha on the floor of the 
house....so upset and just seething ..boiling with anger because  McCain 
made a joke to John Stewart about putting a IED under his seat.

SOME of those Dems need to really lighten up....thank God for McCain's sense 
of humor.

>--- Marion Leffler <marionleffler@telia.com> wrote:
>
> > Okay everybody, I didn't realize that there was an
> > NJC-line. I will pay
> > attention to that in future. And Catherine, I
> > already subscribe to the
> > only-Joni, so what's going on, doesn't it work as it
> > should?
> > Marion
> >
>
>I wasn't paying a lot of attention. I was basically
>using the "sort-and-delete-the-political stuff"
>method, but sometimes if there are only a few posts in
>my inbox, I just go through them one by one.  I think
>somewhere along the line, someone forgot to add the
>njc to the subject header and when anyone replied,
>they didn't notice.
>
>Catherine
>Toronto
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:30:04 -0400
From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" <jlamadoo@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Subject: Second Thought

Yo,

The songbooks aren't the final word on chords.  Better to trust the ears of
Marian Russell and Sue McNamara, at least until Joel Bernstein's book is
finalized.

There's some kind of parable in the Bible about teaching a man to fish.  With
that in mind, you can do the research on this page:

http://jmdl.com/guitar/

Find the "Album" dropdown box and you can figure it out from there.

Jim L.


Matt asked about Dog Eat Dog,
>specifically some of teh harmonies, timbres/ textures on the record, etc.
However, my transcriptions do not accurately reflect the complexity of Joni's
harmony. Does anyone have (or do they even exist?) chords for the Dog Eat Dog
album? I've managed to get a number of songbooks off ebay, but I've never been
able to find the 80s material: WTRF, DED, CMIARS. Any assistance available?>

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:44:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com>
Subject: A stray in the wilderness/Hiroshima NJC

At least he wasn't seething to the point where he
wanted to sink his canine teeth into the so called
enemy, the way Donald Rumsfeld did when the war he
wanted so badly started and he was smiling in glee.
That war monger who wanted war and "kill, kill, kill."
At least Murtha wants peace and not war. Bree, why do
you love Dubya/Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft,
Bremmer and all those right wing Republicans so much?
Geez, they can never, ever do any wrong in your eyes,
right? Good gosh, almighty, Bree! 


  
Amazing grace
How sweet the sound
That saved a wretched 
I once was blind
But now I see
Was lost 
But now I'm found

jeannie
 
- --- Bree Mcdonough <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'm outraged!!   It wasn't me..but somone did indeed
> forgot the NUC.   Darn 
> it!!
> 
> Just kidding...just fake outrage.    I couldn't
> believe what I was hearing 
> and seeing on CNN just a few minutes ago ...John
> Murtha on the floor of the 
> house....so upset and just seething ..boiling with
> anger because  McCain 
> made a joke to John Stewart about putting a IED
> under his seat.
> 
> SOME of those Dems need to really lighten
> up....thank God for McCain's sense 
> of humor.
> 
> >--- Marion Leffler <marionleffler@telia.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Okay everybody, I didn't realize that there was
> an
> > > NJC-line. I will pay
> > > attention to that in future. And Catherine, I
> > > already subscribe to the
> > > only-Joni, so what's going on, doesn't it work
> as it
> > > should?
> > > Marion
> > >
> >
> >I wasn't paying a lot of attention. I was basically
> >using the "sort-and-delete-the-political stuff"
> >method, but sometimes if there are only a few posts
> in
> >my inbox, I just go through them one by one.  I
> think
> >somewhere along the line, someone forgot to add the
> >njc to the subject header and when anyone replied,
> >they didn't notice.
> >
> >Catherine
> >Toronto
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:45:24 -0400
From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" <jlamadoo@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: NJC Dylan Beyond the Horizon / Red sails in the Sunset

From what little I've read about the recent albums, that's the way the Bard is
working now.  Apparently starting with "Love and Theft", he's been borrowing
huge chunks of other songs, in equal measures of appreciation (love) and
convenience (theft).

I'm glad he's still working but I think the songwriting credits on all of the
last 3 albums claim Mr. Dylan as the sole writer, not a co-writer.

So, yeah, if my grandfather had written one of those songs, I might be looking
into collecting some "royalty pennies" from BMI or ASCAP or somebody.  Maybe
if all of the heirs banded together, they'd mount a class action suit, driving
Dylan out of songwriting.  Would humanity be better served or not?  (Remember,
in Lit class, there's no correct answer.  All answers are equally incorrect.
nyuck nyuck.)

I learned in the first volume of the autobiography that he's far from
oblivious about pop history.

Jim L.

Bene asked,
>have any of you noticed the similarity between Beyond the Horizon on Modern
Times and an old song called Red Sails in the Sunset? <edit> Is (he) paying
tribute rather than being oblivious of the other song?>

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:48:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com>
Subject: Wild Things Run Fast

Joni was real upbeat on the album, WTRF. I wonder what
made her happy at that time.

I just got an idea/
Gonna go to the Chinese Cafe, Ding How now for some
Tofu amd vegetables. Yummy!!


Jeannie



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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:09:33 EDT
From: Wtking59@cs.com
Subject: Re: NJC Hiroshima

Bree wrote:
>>>...I encourage you to order AND READ the last book Jeane Kirkpatrick 
wrote, the brilliant (a word way over-used today because it cheapens it when using 
it in a description of someone who truly is) "Making War To Keep Peace."<<<
          _____________________________________

    
Uhmmm, maybe it's just me but shouldn't that statement be the other way 
around (i.e., that the word "brilliant" is increasingly "cheapened" {?--how about 
"diminished"?} when using it to describe someone who truly ISN'T)? 

Like, for instance, using the word to describe Kirkpatrick's most recent--and 
dare I say it--obviously "less-than-brilliant" book. In which case--for me, 
anyway--it doesn't diminish the word at all. 

Rather, it simply reveals just how very misguided a soul who improperly uses 
it can be (...for example, anyone who'd recommend a book called "Making War To 
Keep Peace"--unless, of course, it's an anti-war volume. I mean, the title 
alone--as in "making war to keep peace is a good and/or necessary thing"--is 
enough to make any logical person shudder). 

     To borrow a word from Mia, "disturbing" indeed!  :-o



Bree added:
>>>Donald Trump--referring to Rosie O'Donnell--said yesterday: "Sometimes you 
have to hit a bully right between the eyes." I thought, YES...and one could 
apply that from a (me: "AN," Bree) individual to a nation.<<<
          _____________________________________


Yet another disturbing comment. Yeah, rrrrrrright--one COULD apply that quote 
if one didn't know any better. I mean, more bloodshed is exactly what the 
world needs right now (NOT!). After all, remember: violence and hatred begets the 
same.

And consider that our enemies (good guys vs. bad guys mentality) probably 
feel the same way (i.e., that "sometimes you have to hit a bully right between 
the eyes") about our current, terroristic President. 

Oh, and by the way--I LOVE Rosie O'Donnell's brevity and honesty (as opposed 
to the Donald's pompous arrogance and apparent lies).

     No WONDER we don't see eye-to-eye!


XXXOOO,
Billy

NP: 'Frantic' (2002) by Bryan Ferry (featuring, coincidentally enough, a 
track called "Hiroshima...")

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:54:57 -0400
From: "Cassy" <Siquomb@Comcast.net>
Subject: Fiddle and the Drum

From: <AMARY559@aol.com>

<<< The other ones to go on the  "wish Joni did not write list" (at least 
from the period from STAS to before  WTRF) are "Fiddle and the Drum" and 
"Blue Motel Room".  So quite a short  list with 3 from DQRD! >>>


Kevin,

Have you ever heard the "Fiddle and the Drum" cover by A Perfect Circle?  It 
brought me a whole new perspective of the song as it's performed completely 
a capella and the harmonies are so tight it sometimes gives me chills when I 
listen to it.

I have uploaded it for your listening pleasure to:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=711B786C0E8CB89E

Perhaps this recording will help you re-evaluate the song.

Warmly,
Cassy

NP:  David Lahm - Song For Sharon 

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:39:01 -0400
From: "Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: NJC Hiroshima

Read some history books and then you will have a better understanding.


>From: Wtking59@cs.com
>Reply-To: Wtking59@cs.com
>To: joni@smoe.org
>Subject: Re: NJC Hiroshima
>Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:09:33 EDT
>
>Bree wrote:
> >>>...I encourage you to order AND READ the last book Jeane Kirkpatrick
>wrote, the brilliant (a word way over-used today because it cheapens it 
>when using
>it in a description of someone who truly is) "Making War To Keep Peace."<<<
>           _____________________________________
>
>
>Uhmmm, maybe it's just me but shouldn't that statement be the other way
>around (i.e., that the word "brilliant" is increasingly "cheapened" {?--how 
>about
>"diminished"?} when using it to describe someone who truly ISN'T)?
>
>Like, for instance, using the word to describe Kirkpatrick's most 
>recent--and
>dare I say it--obviously "less-than-brilliant" book. In which case--for me,
>anyway--it doesn't diminish the word at all.
>
>Rather, it simply reveals just how very misguided a soul who improperly 
>uses
>it can be (...for example, anyone who'd recommend a book called "Making War 
>To
>Keep Peace"--unless, of course, it's an anti-war volume. I mean, the title
>alone--as in "making war to keep peace is a good and/or necessary 
>thing"--is
>enough to make any logical person shudder).
>
>      To borrow a word from Mia, "disturbing" indeed!  :-o
>
>
>
>Bree added:
> >>>Donald Trump--referring to Rosie O'Donnell--said yesterday: "Sometimes 
>you
>have to hit a bully right between the eyes." I thought, YES...and one could
>apply that from a (me: "AN," Bree) individual to a nation.<<<
>           _____________________________________
>
>
>Yet another disturbing comment. Yeah, rrrrrrright--one COULD apply that 
>quote
>if one didn't know any better. I mean, more bloodshed is exactly what the
>world needs right now (NOT!). After all, remember: violence and hatred 
>begets the
>same.
>
>And consider that our enemies (good guys vs. bad guys mentality) probably
>feel the same way (i.e., that "sometimes you have to hit a bully right 
>between
>the eyes") about our current, terroristic President.
>
>Oh, and by the way--I LOVE Rosie O'Donnell's brevity and honesty (as 
>opposed
>to the Donald's pompous arrogance and apparent lies).
>
>      No WONDER we don't see eye-to-eye!
>
>
>XXXOOO,
>Billy
>
>NP: 'Frantic' (2002) by Bryan Ferry (featuring, coincidentally enough, a
>track called "Hiroshima...")

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:42:04 EDT
From: Motitan@aol.com
Subject: Re: DJRD soon to come/Blue Motel Room/Fiddle..etc..

The other ones to go on the  "wish Joni did not write list" (at least  from 
the period from STAS to before  WTRF) are "Fiddle and the Drum"  and "Blue 
Motel 
Room". So quite a short  list with 3 from  DQRD!
- ---------------------------------------------------------
    Hmm, well I can't comment on the DJRD tunes yet but  I can say this.  I 
remember when I first got Hejira (not too long ago) I  read a bunch of reviews 
on it and the one unanimous thought was that Blue Motel  Room was a weak song. 
 At that time, I thought "why on Earth would this  song get bashed so much?"  
I really liked it afterall.  It's got an  old jazzy feel to it which was 
interesting.  Now (I'm very fickle) "I think  I understand."  I still don't agree 
that it's a bad song as some reviews  suggested as much as it probably is the 
weakest song on Hejira.  And I only  say that because Hejira is filled with 
some top of the line songs, atleast in my  opinion.
    As far as the Fiddle And The Drum goes, well I  always skip it (except a 
live version I have).  I like the concept behind  the song but I can't help 
but wish there was musical accompaniment to it.   Is there a version that Joni 
ever did with guitar or piano on that song?   Although, I think she did a damn 
fine job on the song Shadows And Light from the  HOSL.  Now I know that's not 
just singing (as Joni plays the farfisa  or however/whatever it is spelled or 
called....my mind fails right now) but  it's pretty close to it.  It's got a 
very light music background  with Joni's central voice carrying the song and 
what sounds like a  hundred Joni voices responding (I know it's not really a 
hundred).   That's perfect if you ask me!  I was really blown away with the 
singing on  that song on first listen (which again was not too long ago)....
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:45:38 -0400
From: "Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>
Subject: A ticket to ride NJC

Gravel/Kucinich 08'

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:48:54 -0400
From: "Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: A stray in the wilderness/Hiroshima NJC

You forgot the brain...Karl Rove.


>>At least he wasn't seething to the point where he
>wanted to sink his canine teeth into the so called
>enemy, the way Donald Rumsfeld did when the war he
>wanted so badly started and he was smiling in glee.
>That war monger who wanted war and "kill, kill, kill."
>At least Murtha wants peace and not war. Bree, why do
>you love Dubya/Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft,
>Bremmer and all those right wing Republicans so much?
>Geez, they can never, ever do any wrong in your eyes,
>right? Good gosh, almighty, Bree!
>
>
>
>Amazing grace
>How sweet the sound
>That saved a wretched
>I once was blind
>But now I see
>Was lost
>But now I'm found
>
>jeannie
>
>--- Bree Mcdonough <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm outraged!!   It wasn't me..but somone did indeed
> > forgot the NUC.   Darn
> > it!!
> >
> > Just kidding...just fake outrage.    I couldn't
> > believe what I was hearing
> > and seeing on CNN just a few minutes ago ...John
> > Murtha on the floor of the
> > house....so upset and just seething ..boiling with
> > anger because  McCain
> > made a joke to John Stewart about putting a IED
> > under his seat.
> >
> > SOME of those Dems need to really lighten
> > up....thank God for McCain's sense
> > of humor.
> >
> > >--- Marion Leffler <marionleffler@telia.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Okay everybody, I didn't realize that there was
> > an
> > > > NJC-line. I will pay
> > > > attention to that in future. And Catherine, I
> > > > already subscribe to the
> > > > only-Joni, so what's going on, doesn't it work
> > as it
> > > > should?
> > > > Marion
> > > >
> > >
> > >I wasn't paying a lot of attention. I was basically
> > >using the "sort-and-delete-the-political stuff"
> > >method, but sometimes if there are only a few posts
> > in
> > >my inbox, I just go through them one by one.  I
> > think
> > >somewhere along the line, someone forgot to add the
> > >njc to the subject header and when anyone replied,
> > >they didn't notice.
> > >
> > >Catherine
> > >Toronto
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:49:39 -0400
From: "Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: A stray in the wilderness/Hiroshima NJC

You forgot the brain...Karl Rove.


>>At least he wasn't seething to the point where he
>wanted to sink his canine teeth into the so called
>enemy, the way Donald Rumsfeld did when the war he
>wanted so badly started and he was smiling in glee.
>That war monger who wanted war and "kill, kill, kill."
>At least Murtha wants peace and not war. Bree, why do
>you love Dubya/Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft,
>Bremmer and all those right wing Republicans so much?
>Geez, they can never, ever do any wrong in your eyes,
>right? Good gosh, almighty, Bree!
>
>
>
>Amazing grace
>How sweet the sound
>That saved a wretched
>I once was blind
>But now I see
>Was lost
>But now I'm found
>
>jeannie
>
>--- Bree Mcdonough <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm outraged!!   It wasn't me..but somone did indeed
> > forgot the NUC.   Darn
> > it!!
> >
> > Just kidding...just fake outrage.    I couldn't
> > believe what I was hearing
> > and seeing on CNN just a few minutes ago ...John
> > Murtha on the floor of the
> > house....so upset and just seething ..boiling with
> > anger because  McCain
> > made a joke to John Stewart about putting a IED
> > under his seat.
> >
> > SOME of those Dems need to really lighten
> > up....thank God for McCain's sense
> > of humor.
> >
> > >--- Marion Leffler <marionleffler@telia.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Okay everybody, I didn't realize that there was
> > an
> > > > NJC-line. I will pay
> > > > attention to that in future. And Catherine, I
> > > > already subscribe to the
> > > > only-Joni, so what's going on, doesn't it work
> > as it
> > > > should?
> > > > Marion
> > > >
> > >
> > >I wasn't paying a lot of attention. I was basically
> > >using the "sort-and-delete-the-political stuff"
> > >method, but sometimes if there are only a few posts
> > in
> > >my inbox, I just go through them one by one.  I
> > think
> > >somewhere along the line, someone forgot to add the
> > >njc to the subject header and when anyone replied,
> > >they didn't notice.
> > >
> > >Catherine
> > >Toronto
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:47:05 -0400
From: srobe444@aol.com
Subject: Re: SV: Hiroshima NJC

I take full responsibility.
 
I didn't realize there was an NJC line and I goofed.
 
I was replying to a comment in one of the posts which was actually related to a line in one of Joni's songs, so I guess the transgrssor in this was me.
 
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: anima_rising@yahoo.ca
To: marionleffler@telia.com; robert@argento.se; bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com; notaro@stpt.usf.edu; srobe444@aol.com
Cc: joni@smoe.org
Sent: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: SV: Hiroshima NJC



- --- Marion Leffler <marionleffler@telia.com> wrote:

> Okay everybody, I didn't realize that there was an
> NJC-line. I will pay
> attention to that in future. And Catherine, I
> already subscribe to the
> only-Joni, so what's going on, doesn't it work as it
> should?
> Marion
> 

I wasn't paying a lot of attention. I was basically
using the "sort-and-delete-the-political stuff"
method, but sometimes if there are only a few posts in
my inbox, I just go through them one by one.  I think
somewhere along the line, someone forgot to add the
njc to the subject header and when anyone replied,
they didn't notice.

Catherine 
Toronto
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:42:19 -0400
From: srobe444@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hiroshima

This story is old news, and was reported at least 6 - 7 years ago. The story today actually glossed over the fact that it was the Japanese authorities idea, on the assumption that if there were not prostitutes, there would be mass rape. An assumption made by the Japanese because that was the MO of the Japanese occupying forces.
 
Interesting that Macarthur stopped the practice, isn't it?
 
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu
To: srobe444@aol.com
Cc: joni@smoe.org
Sent: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Hiroshima


And not a word about the U.S. occupation forces which continued the forced
sexual slavery for the "comfort" of American soldiers?

Jerry

srobe444@aol.com wrote:
> Can't really let this one go.
>
> Although it seems popular now to pretend the Japanese were really
> interested in peace (I think Gore Vidal was urging this view in Why We
> Fight) the reality is they wanted to end the war on their terms and
> essentially pretend that they had never engaged in genocide, violations of
> the rules of war, human experimentation, forced sexual slavery, etc. and
> etc. They wanted to keep an army and navy, etc.
>
> Since they were not in any position to dictate terms, being defeated
> militarily, as seems to be conceded, it really was a non-starter to speak
> of a culturally acceptable surrender.
>
> Had they capitualted when unconditional surrender was demanded (nothing
> vague about that) they could have spared themselves Nagasaki and
> Hiroshima.
>
> Instead they decided to bluff Truman (talk about false and misguided
> courage!) and dare him to take the mainland.
>
> I thank God for Harry Truman, who I believe hoped there was a way around
> the A-bomb, but finally came to the reluctant conclusion there was not.
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:59:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Gerald A. Notaro" <notaro@stpt.usf.edu>
Subject: Re: Hiroshima

srobe444@aol.com wrote:
> This story is old news,

But true, nonetheless. In fact, American soldiers did the very same thing
in Africa, enslaving African women. Funny how those history books Bree
keeps referring to leave these truths out.

Jerry

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:22:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bob Muller <scjoniguy@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Wild Things Run Fast

<Joni was real upbeat on the album, WTRF. I wonder what
made her happy at that time.>
   
  Don't know if you're serious about this question, Jeannie, but in case you're not - she was crazy in love with Klein and in that new love-infatuation stage. What makes you happier than that? Nothing, I would say.
   
  Bob
   
  NP: Bruce, "The Angel"
  




       
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:32:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bob Muller <scjoniguy@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DJRD soon to come/Blue Motel Room/Fiddle..etc..

<At that time, I thought "why on Earth would this  song get 
bashed so much?"  
I really liked it afterall.>
   
  I'm with ya, Monika - I love BMR and I have ever since I first heard it. When I met Joni, this was the song we talked about. Everything about it is great, it's really a great pleasure to sing too.
   
  "Fiddle & The Drum" is great too - I don't skip it - ever. And Cassy is right, the Perfect Circle cover will chill you to your bones. Joni doesn't do things at random - the song is done acapella so you can absorb with full impact what she's saying.
   
  Bob, happy for every song Joni ever wrote as it makes his search for covers a bigger challenge
   
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:45:03 EDT
From: Motitan@aol.com
Subject: Re: DJRD soon to come/Blue Motel Room/Fiddle..etc..

Joni doesn't do things at random - the song is done acapella  so you can 
absorb with full impact what she's saying
- --------------------------------------------------
    Oh, of course.  I understand that.   Joni's well aware man!  Like I said, 
I do like what the song has to say and  I give credit for her to go acapella. 
 There's no hiding behind a guitar  anymore like that (not that she has any 
need to...she has a beautiful  voice).  But still it's a very brave and 
ambitious move to make--singing  acapella.  
    I don't know but for some reason on Clouds, I do  skip it.  However, I 
did enjoy her performance of it on the Dick Cavett  Show though.  But that could 
be because like I said before on this list,  seeing is believing!  I'm a 
sucker when it comes to anything good  live.  It just kills me.
- -Monika, happy for every song Joni ever wrote as every song and album  is 
part of one big never-ending Joni journey I am currently traveling on....and  
because the creativity shines in every song whether you like it or not and I  
love creative people....



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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:29:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: A stray in the wilderness/Hiroshima NJC

Boy, you got your point across. I got 4 letters of
your letters in my mailbox mentioning Karl Rove whom I
guess you idolize and love. He does an awkward juke
box dive, you know? Do you also think he's handsome.
To me, he's a boludo with a big head...literally and
figuratively. 

I wonder what he thinks of Joni Mitchell's work. 

Jeannie

While madmen sit up building bombs
and making laws and bars.
He'd like to slam free choice behind us 

PS That awful man, Rove, is so damned ugly and devious
and you like him, Bree? Yuck and YIKES!!!
Get me outta this thought!!


- --- Bree Mcdonough <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com> wrote:

> You forgot the brain...Karl Rove.
> 
> 
> >>At least he wasn't seething to the point where he
> >wanted to sink his canine teeth into the so called
> >enemy, the way Donald Rumsfeld did when the war he
> >wanted so badly started and he was smiling in glee.
> >That war monger who wanted war and "kill, kill,
> kill."
> >At least Murtha wants peace and not war. Bree, why
> do
> >you love Dubya/Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld,
> Ashcroft,
> >Bremmer and all those right wing Republicans so
> much?
> >Geez, they can never, ever do any wrong in your
> eyes,
> >right? Good gosh, almighty, Bree!
> >
> >
> >
> >Amazing grace
> >How sweet the sound
> >That saved a wretched
> >I once was blind
> >But now I see
> >Was lost
> >But now I'm found
> >
> >jeannie
> >
> >--- Bree Mcdonough <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm outraged!!   It wasn't me..but somone did
> indeed
> > > forgot the NUC.   Darn
> > > it!!
> > >
> > > Just kidding...just fake outrage.    I couldn't
> > > believe what I was hearing
> > > and seeing on CNN just a few minutes ago ...John
> > > Murtha on the floor of the
> > > house....so upset and just seething ..boiling
> with
> > > anger because  McCain
> > > made a joke to John Stewart about putting a IED
> > > under his seat.
> > >
> > > SOME of those Dems need to really lighten
> > > up....thank God for McCain's sense
> > > of humor.
> > >
> > > >--- Marion Leffler <marionleffler@telia.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Okay everybody, I didn't realize that there
> was
> > > an
> > > > > NJC-line. I will pay
> > > > > attention to that in future. And Catherine,
> I
> > > > > already subscribe to the
> > > > > only-Joni, so what's going on, doesn't it
> work
> > > as it
> > > > > should?
> > > > > Marion
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >I wasn't paying a lot of attention. I was
> basically
> > > >using the "sort-and-delete-the-political stuff"
> > > >method, but sometimes if there are only a few
> posts
> > > in
> > > >my inbox, I just go through them one by one.  I
> > > think
> > > >somewhere along the line, someone forgot to add
> the
> > > >njc to the subject header and when anyone
> replied,
> > > >they didn't notice.
> > > >
> > > >Catherine
> > > >Toronto


Dreaming Dreamland,
     Jeannie







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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:40:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Catherine McKay <anima_rising@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: DJRD soon to come/Blue Motel Room/Fiddle..etc..

- --- Bob Muller <scjoniguy@yahoo.com> wrote:

> <At that time, I thought "why on Earth would this 
> song get 
> bashed so much?"  
> I really liked it afterall.>
>    
>   I'm with ya, Monika - I love BMR and I have ever
> since I first heard it. When I met Joni, this was
> the song we talked about. Everything about it is
> great, it's really a great pleasure to sing too.

I love "Blue Motel Room" too, anachronisms and all. 
I've never considered the possibility that maybe it
doesn't fit the rest of the concept of the Hejira
album.  Maybe it was the brief interlude in all Joni's
travels. It has an old-timey feel to it, like she was
listening to a tinny old radio playing jazz on the
porch in the rain.

>   "Fiddle & The Drum" is great too - I don't skip it
> - ever. 

I gotta admit. I'd just as soon skip "F and the D".
Most of the time, it makes me squirm.


Catherine 
Toronto

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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:46:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Wild Things Run Fast

I am serious, Bob. I'm not always joking. :)  

I know Larry Klein made her happy but Joni was
glowing. Joni's glow comes from within herself.
Are you sure it was all infatuation and creativity
with Larry Klein?

Taming The Tiger is one of content. Was it her new
boyfriend then, too?  

Thank you, Bob, for answering my questions and I mean
that with all of my heart. I'm serious, too!

Sincerely,
   Jean

Music is your own experience, your thoughts, your
wisdom.
If you don't live it within yourself, it won't come
out of your horn.
~Charlie Parker~

NP: Mister Betty by the Gourds

Playing all nite long tonight: My Name is Buddy by Ry
Cooder.
I just got it last night! It's new and I'm glowing and
happy!



- --- Bob Muller <scjoniguy@yahoo.com> wrote:

> <Joni was real upbeat on the album, WTRF. I wonder
> what
> made her happy at that time.>
>    
>   Don't know if you're serious about this question,
> Jeannie, but in case you're not - she was crazy in
> love with Klein and in that new love-infatuation
> stage. What makes you happier than that? Nothing, I
> would say.
>    
>   Bob
>    
>   NP: Bruce, "The Angel"
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:18:42 -0700
From: "Randy Remote" <guitarzan@hughes.net>
Subject: Re: SV: Hiroshima NJC

From: "Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>
> SOME of those Dems need to really lighten up....thank God for McCain's 
> sense of humor.

I suppose so....if "Bomb, bomb Iran" is funny...
Funnier were the protesters, singing (to the tune of Barbara
Ann)..."John McCain...he's insane...."  I hope he's having a
good time. In fact I hope he will be the front runner for the
Republicans, since he is seeming nuttier by the day. That way,
maybe the totally unelectable Obama and Hillary will have
a fighting chance. Heck, with that kind of a race, Ralph Nader
might win...
RR
"Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity"-Wavy Gravy 

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