From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #169 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, April 26 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 169 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: war mongers sinking hooters njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Tribute [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Research Paper On Joni [MattJones ] Second Thought [MattJones ] RE: World Tribute ["mike pritchard" ] NJC Dylan Beyond the Horizon / Red sails in the Sunset [missblux@googlema] Re: NJC Dylan Beyond the Horizon / Red sails in the Sunset [Bob.Muller@Fl] Re: war mongers sinking hooters njc [jeannie ] Re: Most underrated/overrated album ["Stephen Toogood" ] Re: Most underrated/overrated album [Bob Muller ] Re: Tribute (imho) [Bob Muller ] The Tribute cd [Brian Gross ] Re: Tribute (imho) ["Randy Remote" ] Hiroshima [srobe444@aol.com] Re: TX hooters njc ["gene" ] Re: World Tribute [Motitan@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:59:30 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: war mongers sinking hooters njc I'm just asking the question...geez...does she have some culpability in spreading the les..and hyperbole. Did she after her recovery squash the exaggerations? No..the new Benedict Arnold is Harry Reid. ;) >Yeah, do attack Jessica...the new Benedict Arnold just >because she speaks not with forked tongue any longer. >The war mongering powers that be are loosing big time >grip of millions of tough ass balls, along with that >of reality. >--- "Gerald A. Notaro" wrote: > > > I wonder if Jessica Lynch will give back the money > > > she made on her book for perpetuating such a lie? > > > > That's right. Attack Jessica, not the Pentagon. > > While the military was > > still lying about the incident, throughout which, by > > the way, Jessica was > > unconscious, she said FOUR YEARS AGO: > > > > Published on Friday, November 7, 2003 by the New > > York Times > > Jessica Lynch Criticizes U.S. Accounts of Her Ordeal > > by David D Kirkpatrick > > > > In her first public statements since her rescue in > > Iraq, Jessica Lynch > > criticized the military for exaggerating accounts of > > her rescue and > > re-casting her ordeal as a patriotic fable. > > > > > > > > In the book and in the interviews, Ms. Lynch says > > others' accounts of her > > heroism often left her feeling hurt and ashamed > > because of what she says > > was overstatement. > > > > > > Asked by the ABC News anchor Diane Sawyer if the > > military's portrayal of > > the rescue bothered her, Ms. Lynch said: "Yeah, it > > does. It does that they > > used me as a way to symbolize all this stuff. Yeah, > > it's wrong," according > > to a partial transcript of the interview to be > > broadcast on Tuesday. > > > > After months of retreating from the news media, Ms. > > Lynch will be a > > ubiquitous presence next week. In addition to her > > appearance on ABC, she > > will be on the cover of Time magazine, and NBC will > > broadcast a movie > > based on an Iraqi's account of her ordeal. On > > Tuesday, the book publisher > > Knopf will release an account of her experience, "I > > Am a Soldier, Too," > > written with her cooperation by a former reporter > > for The New York Times, > > Rick Bragg. > > > > The book and the movie are unrelated and tell > > different versions of Ms. > > Lynch's story, but the publisher has timed the book > > to capitalize on > > publicity from the television movie. > > > > The book has already added another, lurid indignity > > to the public accounts > > of her capture. It reports that Ms. Lynch's military > > doctors found > > injuries consistent with sexual assault and unlikely > > to have resulted from > > the Humvee crash that caused her other wounds, > > suggesting that she was > > raped after her capture. Ms. Lynch, who was > > unconscious immediately after > > the crash, does not remember any such assault, > > according to people who > > have talked to her and read the book. Those details > > of the book's contents > > were reported yesterday in The New York Daily News. > > > > In the book and in the interviews, Ms. Lynch says > > others' accounts of her > > heroism often left her feeling hurt and ashamed > > because of what she says > > was overstatement. > > > > At first, a military spokesman in Iraq told > > journalists that American > > soldiers had exchanged fire with Iraqis during the > > rescue, without adding > > that resistance was minimal. Then the military > > released a dramatic, > > green-tinted, night-vision video of the mission. > > Soon news organizations > > were repeating reports, attributed to anonymous > > American officials, that > > Ms. Lynch had heroically resisted her capture, > > emptying her weapon at her > > attackers. > > > > But subsequent investigations determined that Ms. > > Lynch was injured by the > > crash of her vehicle, her weapon jammed before she > > could fire, the Iraqi > > doctors treated her kindly, and the hospital was > > already in friendly hands > > when her rescuers arrived. > > > > Asked how she felt about the reports of her heroism, > > Ms. Lynch told Ms. > > Sawyer, "It hurt in a way that people would make up > > stories that they had > > no truth about. Only I would have been able to know > > that, because the > > other four people on my vehicle aren't here to tell > > the story. So I would > > have been the only one able to say, yeah, I went > > down shooting. But I > > didn't." > > > > And asked about reports that the military > > exaggerated the danger of the > > rescue mission, Ms. Lynch said, "Yeah, I don't think > > it happened quite > > like that," although she added that in that context > > anybody would have > > approached the hospital well-armed. She continued: > > "I don't know why they > > filmed it, or why they say the things they, you > > know, all I know was that > > I was in that hospital hurting. I needed help." > > > > Lt. Col. Rivers Johnson, a spokesman for the > > Department of Defense, > > declined to comment on Ms. Lynch's views. But he > > said, "Essentially, the > > mission to rescue Jessica Lynch demonstrated > > America's resolve to account > > for all of its missing service members." He added > > that the rescue had been > > conducted under the appropriate procedures for a > > fluid situation like the > > war in Iraq. "You always plan for the worst." > > > > Ms. Lynch also disputed statements by Mohammed Odeh > > al-Rehaief, the Iraqi > > lawyer, that he saw her captors slap her. > > > > "From the time I woke up in that hospital, no one > > beat me, no one slapped > > me, no one, nothing," Ms. Lynch told Diane Sawyer, > > adding, "I'm so > > thankful for those people, because that's why I'm > > alive today." > > > > Jeff Coplon, who helped Mr. Rehaief write his book, > > "Because Each Life is > > Precious," said it was possible that both he and Ms. > > Lynch were telling > > the truth in their divergent accounts. > > > > "One of the questions that could arise in the wake > > of this kind of trauma > > is that someone could believe they remember > > everything and their memory > > could still be incomplete," Mr. Coplon said. > > > > >Dreaming Dreamland, > Jeannie > > > > > > > >jjj > > > > > >. >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger. Join the im Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:04:31 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Tribute Jerry wrote: > A Tribute to Joni Mitchell is the featured cd of the day on our very > fabulous WMNF in Tampa. They played some of the songs from the Tribute album on one of the sattelite radio stations today too! I bought Tribute yesterday, and even though we've heard some of the artists sing them before, I still like it..........especially Annie Lennox singing LOTC. Happy hump day! Jimmy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:32:38 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Subject: Review of tribute in SF Chronicle Hi, I've been away (in fabulous Los Angeles!) for over a week so am not sure what all the discussions are about - but Gus.... I feel that you visit someone in their private home and then go and email 800 persons about what happened then that is betraying friendship. The person would have to be pretty abusive for her to deserve to be back-stabbed like that. I really think that if it was me I would keep private info like this off-list (am sure I would not keep it to myself :-) ). You and I never talked to each other so I am really sorry if I sound unpleasant. But... I don't know, I feel I have to stand up for our goddess... Best Bene Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 01:29:30 -0700 (PDT) From: rsc1@humboldt.edu Subject: Review of tribute in SF Chronicle There was a short (paragraph) review of the Nonesuch tribute CD in Sunday's "Pink" section (Datebook) of the San Francisco Chronicle. It was written by a guy named Aidin Vaziri, who stirs things up on a weekly basis with his "Pop Quiz" column. He interviews musicians, and is pretty irreverent, which annoys many people. Anyway, he ends the brief review with this comment: "If you've heard Mitchell do these songs lately, you know that she can no longer do them justice either." Yeah, the last time I was at her place, she did a version of "Edith and the Kingpin" that was horrible. And the way she sings "The Boho Dance" while fixing dinner is just embarrassing. When will she just accept the fact that she can't sing anymore? See, Aidin is all about the annoyance factor! (I got a good chuckle out of that one.) Gus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:32:48 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: World Tribute From: "Mark-Leon Thorne" <<< I'm interested to know, which artists would people like to see perform which Joni song from your country for this hypothetical show. >>> I'd absolutely love to hear Willy Porter perform Jericho. His voice thrills me and this song would fit into his style perfectly. Warmly, Cassy NP: Joni - Paprika Plains ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:05:10 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Tribute Hello, fellow Joni cover fan! And here's a nice little 2-minute promo video for it, includes several samples from the CD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKZsIwrmlvE Bob NP: Joan Armatrading, "I'm Lucky" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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So, I politely questioned the origin of these recordings, if they'd been released as public domain, etc. The shop owners were very hush, hush, basically telling me to stop asking where they came from. Not one to be deterred, I asked if it was, in fact, legal to be selling this material. Long story short, these were compilations of things I'd seen before and some I hadn't. One is called "The White Swan" and is from a 67 performance in Leicester, UK (or say it says). Another is called "Sounds for Saturday" and is taken from a UK television appearance (or radio?). The others were from 67 or so, and seemed to be the Second Fret recordings along with some other things. As I am working on a sort of meta-joni project here for part of my graduate work, I wondered about other bootleg recordings, etc, people have access to, either concert footage, recordings etc. If anyone would care to email me off-list and let me know about any material of this sort they have and wouldn't mind sharing for academic use as well as between joni fans, that would be awesome. Furthermore, I dropped the ball a while back due to some personal circumstances that I will not go into on here regarding the Wembley concert. I know two people had asked me specifically for copies of it; however, I do not recall who they were. SO, if you are one of those people (or if you're someone else who would like a copy of either the Wembley concert or these bootlegs I discovered today) please let me know. I need to make amends with myself for getting wrapped up in personal bullshit, as well as with the great people from the list that I let down. Thanks! and happy listening. matt Oh oh oh. If you would like to read the paper, please email me off list. - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:12:22 -0700 (PDT) From: MattJones Subject: Second Thought My last post became so rambly, i lost my third point. In the paper, I write about some songs from Dog Eat Dog, specifically some of teh harmonies, timbres/ textures on the record, etc. However, my transcriptions do not accurately reflect the complexity of Joni's harmony. Does anyone have (or do they even exist?) chords for the Dog Eat Dog album? I've managed to get a number of songbooks off ebay, but I've never been able to find the 80s material: WTRF, DED, CMIARS. Any assistance available? Matt/ Athens/ Again - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:13:51 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: RE: World Tribute >>I would certainly love to see Roxana Amed and Pedro Aznar reproduce their magic performance of Amelia for Spain.<< Argentina, Shirley? mikeinbcn np stryngs - love and other vices ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:16:18 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC Dylan Beyond the Horizon / Red sails in the Sunset Here is a Q for the Dylan people... have any of you noticed the similarity between Beyond the Horizon on Modern Times and an old song called Red Sails in the Sunset? I looked it up and found it was written by Jimmy Kennedy and Hugh Williams who I don't know (I used to think it was a Danish composition). It really is quite striking. I don't know much about Dylan but would guess he is paying tribute rather than being oblivious of the other song. Bene (wanting to tell you all about my recent trip to amazing LA and will do so soon!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:21:43 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: NJC Dylan Beyond the Horizon / Red sails in the Sunset Did - I've mentioned it in this very forum. Matter of fact, the second time I heard it I sang the "Red Sails" lyrics just because I do crazy $hit like that sometimes. Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "Charm School" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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Did she after her > recovery squash the > exaggerations? > > No..the new Benedict Arnold is Harry Reid. ;) No Bree, I told you, he's more like the new Che Guevara. ;)) > >Yeah, do attack Jessica...the new Benedict Arnold > just > >because she speaks not with forked tongue any > longer. > >The war mongering powers that be are loosing big > time > >grip of millions of tough ass balls, along with > that > >of reality. > >--- "Gerald A. Notaro" wrote: > > > > > I wonder if Jessica Lynch will give back the > money > > > > she made on her book for perpetuating such a > lie? > > > > > > That's right. Attack Jessica, not the Pentagon. > > > While the military was > > > still lying about the incident, throughout > which, by > > > the way, Jessica was > > > unconscious, she said FOUR YEARS AGO: > > > > > > Published on Friday, November 7, 2003 by the New > > > York Times > > > Jessica Lynch Criticizes U.S. Accounts of Her > Ordeal > > > by David D Kirkpatrick > > > > > > In her first public statements since her rescue > in > > > Iraq, Jessica Lynch > > > criticized the military for exaggerating > accounts of > > > her rescue and > > > re-casting her ordeal as a patriotic fable. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the book and in the interviews, Ms. Lynch > says > > > others' accounts of her > > > heroism often left her feeling hurt and ashamed > > > because of what she says > > > was overstatement. > > > > > > > > > Asked by the ABC News anchor Diane Sawyer if the > > > military's portrayal of > > > the rescue bothered her, Ms. Lynch said: "Yeah, > it > > > does. It does that they > > > used me as a way to symbolize all this stuff. > Yeah, > > > it's wrong," according > > > to a partial transcript of the interview to be > > > broadcast on Tuesday. > > > > > > After months of retreating from the news media, > Ms. > > > Lynch will be a > > > ubiquitous presence next week. In addition to > her > > > appearance on ABC, she > > > will be on the cover of Time magazine, and NBC > will > > > broadcast a movie > > > based on an Iraqi's account of her ordeal. On > > > Tuesday, the book publisher > > > Knopf will release an account of her experience, > "I > > > Am a Soldier, Too," > > > written with her cooperation by a former > reporter > > > for The New York Times, > > > Rick Bragg. > > > > > > The book and the movie are unrelated and tell > > > different versions of Ms. > > > Lynch's story, but the publisher has timed the > book > > > to capitalize on > > > publicity from the television movie. > > > > > > The book has already added another, lurid > indignity > > > to the public accounts > > > of her capture. It reports that Ms. Lynch's > military > > > doctors found > > > injuries consistent with sexual assault and > unlikely > > > to have resulted from > > > the Humvee crash that caused her other wounds, > > > suggesting that she was > > > raped after her capture. Ms. Lynch, who was > > > unconscious immediately after > > > the crash, does not remember any such assault, > > > according to people who > > > have talked to her and read the book. Those > details > > > of the book's contents > > > were reported yesterday in The New York Daily > News. > > > > > > In the book and in the interviews, Ms. Lynch > says > > > others' accounts of her > > > heroism often left her feeling hurt and ashamed > > > because of what she says > > > was overstatement. > > > > > > At first, a military spokesman in Iraq told > > > journalists that American > > > soldiers had exchanged fire with Iraqis during > the > > > rescue, without adding > > > that resistance was minimal. Then the military > > > released a dramatic, > > > green-tinted, night-vision video of the mission. > > > Soon news organizations > > > were repeating reports, attributed to anonymous > > > American officials, that > > > Ms. Lynch had heroically resisted her capture, > > > emptying her weapon at her > > > attackers. > > > > > > But subsequent investigations determined that > Ms. > > > Lynch was injured by the > > > crash of her vehicle, her weapon jammed before > she > > > could fire, the Iraqi > > > doctors treated her kindly, and the hospital was > > > already in friendly hands > > > when her rescuers arrived. > > > > > > Asked how she felt about the reports of her > heroism, > > > Ms. Lynch told Ms. > > > Sawyer, "It hurt in a way that people would make > up > > > stories that they had > > > no truth about. Only I would have been able to > know > > > that, because the > > > other four people on my vehicle aren't here to > tell > > > the story. So I would > > > have been the only one able to say, yeah, I went > > > down shooting. But I > > > didn't." > > > > > > And asked about reports that the military > > > exaggerated the danger of the > > > rescue mission, Ms. Lynch said, "Yeah, I don't > think > > > it happened quite > > > like that," although she added that in that > context > > > anybody would have > > > approached the hospital well-armed. She > continued: > > > "I don't know why they > > > filmed it, or why they say the things they, you > > > know, all I know was that > > > I was in that hospital hurting. I needed help." > > > > > > Lt. Col. Rivers Johnson, a spokesman for the > > > Department of Defense, > > > declined to comment on Ms. Lynch's views. But he > > > said, "Essentially, the > > > mission to rescue Jessica Lynch demonstrated > > > America's resolve to account > > > for all of its missing service members." He > added > > > that the rescue had been > > > conducted under the appropriate procedures for a > > > fluid situation like the > > > war in Iraq. "You always plan for the worst." > > > > > > Ms. Lynch also disputed statements by Mohammed > Odeh > > > al-Rehaief, the Iraqi > > > lawyer, that he saw her captors slap her. > > > > > > "From the time I woke up in that hospital, no > one > > > beat me, no one slapped > > > me, no one, nothing," Ms. Lynch told Diane > Sawyer, > > > adding, "I'm so > === message truncated === Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:05:58 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: NJC Dylan Beyond the Horizon / Red sails in the Sunset Ah you would have noticed of course! I think at first I found that this was an amazing discovery because I thought this was a Danish song and bizarre that Dylan would know it or write something that similar. I have googled around a bit now and even found an article that talks about the similarity. Dylan's song is still nice! Bene (not wanting to get into trouble with the Dylan folks now that I have already put my foot in with the Lennon folks and elsewhere!) On 4/25/07, Bob.Muller@fluor.com wrote: > > Modern Times and an old song called Red Sails in the Sunset?> > > Did - I've mentioned it in this very forum. Matter of fact, the second time > I heard it I sang the "Red Sails" lyrics just because I do crazy $hit like > that sometimes. > > Bob > > NP: Elvis Costello, "Charm School" > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you > are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, > dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken > in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message > are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect > the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:43:51 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Sorry Confession I got the Joni Tribute album and Patti Smith's album of covers, _Twelve_ in today's mail--no record stores, independent or dependent, around here, unless you call the Wal-Mart I boycott a record store. The confession: I put Patti on first. But I had already hear some from the sublime (Prince, Emmylou) to the ridiculous (Sufjan). NP: Patti Smith, "Changing of the Guard" (Dylan Street Legal cover) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:49:38 +0100 From: "Stephen Toogood" Subject: Re: Most underrated/overrated album MOI did so well initially in the states, but seems like a forgotton Joni album now. What's with that? I guess that is the fate of most live albums, and partially it was bough by the mainstream off the back of C&S. Really good album though. That version of People's Parties is so soul bearing. Oh and it's nice to know I'm not the only one who will get lynched Billy ;) Ste >From: Wtking59@cs.com >Reply-To: Wtking59@cs.com >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Most underrated/overrated album >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:44:18 EDT > >Gotta agree with Stephen (and a few others) on this one: > >'Hejira' (...or possibly 'Turbulent Indigo,' since it won a Grammy for >"album >of the year") is Joni's most OVERrated disc (of course, 'Hejira' DID >receive >its fair share of mostly negative and/or indifferent reviews when first >released), while 'Miles of Aisles' (...if we're including "live" albums) is >her most >UNDERrated. > > >XXXOOO, >Billy > >NP: 'Dangerous Game' (2007) by Mary Weiss. Brand new--and highly >acclaimed--solo debut from the former lead singer of The Shangri-Las (some >40+ years after >the fact!). Cool stuff... ;-) > > > ============================= >"Stephen Toogood" amelio747@hotmail.com wrote: > >Overrated - Hejira. > >Ste _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail, News, Sport and Entertainment from MSN on your mobile. http://www.msn.txt4content.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:08:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Tribute (imho) - --- Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > Hello, fellow Joni cover fan! > > And here's a nice little 2-minute promo video for it, includes several > samples from the CD: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKZsIwrmlvE I just got back from Borders, where I was compelled to buy the Tribute, along with a copy of Jonatha's most recent cd "Careful What You Wish For", completist that I am. So I thought I'd share my first-listen impressions of the Tribute: 1. Sufjan Stevens (whose music I'm not at all familiar with) - An offbeat, yet enjoyable take on Free Man in Paris. 2. Bjork (whose previous music I've thought of as sort of strange, from my folkie position) - Her Boho Dance was strange as I would have expected from her. But not bad. Maybe she was Boho Dancing on SNL last weekend?? 3. Caetano Veloso (unknown to me) - The vision that popped into my head was the film Borat. This version of Dreamland would have worked perfectly there. 4. Brad Mehldau - His Don't Interrupt the Sorrow was almost as good as Fred Simon's Joni performances (and that's high praise for both of them) 5. Cassandra Wilson - A soulful performance of For The Roses, reminicent of Joni's Jazz in NYC in 2000. 6. Prince - I didn't know he had released this Case Of You on an earlier album. I'm not surprised, as polished as it is. 7. Sarah McLachlan - I've had this version of Blue since I found the Good Enough EP in 1994. Top notch. 8. Annie Lennox - Her Ladies of The Canyon just went to the top of the list of new cuts that went into this project. Except I just saw that she previously released it on an earlier album :-( Still up there, though 9. Emmylou Harris - Did Our Lady of Charity have a home in the hills of Tennessee? 10. Elvis Costello - The liner notes show this version of Edith and the Kingpin was recorded in August of 1997. I'm glad Sherelle and Paul Ivice improved upon it at Julie Webb's Jonifest the following April. 11. k.d.lang - Didn't she do Help Me at the Carnegie Hall Tribute? Very nice way to preserve it. I like it. 12. James Taylor - This version of River got a lot of play this past Christmas season. How could one not like it? Likable, not necessarily lovable. All in all, from just one listen, the cd gets a B from me. I wonder if the rest of the cuts that didn't make it onto this 2007 Tribute will ever see the light of day on a major label? Looking forward to the next volume of the ongoing Tribute by my bro Bob Muller next week, as Mayflowers arrive. take care, Brian np: Jonatha, Beautiful Girl - ----------------------------------------------------------- Politicians and diapers both need to be changed often. And usually for the same reasons. - ----------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:54:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Most underrated/overrated album It's very dated. The sound of the band has not held up very well over time. And almost every one of the songs are better in their studio incarnations, "Rainy Night House" being the one big exception. And in that case, the studio version is pretty damn excellent as well. You asked. Now you know. Bob NP: Sun Kil Moon, "Floating" - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:00:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Tribute (imho) Great track-by-track review, bro. And thanks for reminding me to pick up the new Jonatha - I meant to do that and haven't yet. And I didn't buy the Tribute yesterday - I've had an advance for about a month but it doesn't have the liner notes. (Some Joni covers king *I* turned out to be). I did look at it though, when I went in to get the new ones from The Arctic Monkeys & Porcupine Tree. Is it just me or does the "Dreamland" sound just like Wally K? As much as I like Elvis, I don't care for his stodgy over-arranged "Edith". Best track - Cassandra. Bob NP: Michael Chapdelaine, "Both Sides Now" - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:05:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: The Tribute cd I just popped the cd into my laptop to rip the tracks to drop them into my mp3 player, and I just had to laugh, cause it's all so crazy! Track 2 by Bjork is recognized by Windows Media Player as "The Bobo Dance" So *that's* what she was doing while singing on SNL this past weekend! Too funny!! Brian nw: Jericho (not the Joni version, but the walls *have* come tumbling down) - ----------------------------------------------------------- Politicians and diapers both need to be changed often. And usually for the same reasons. - ----------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:22:35 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Tribute (imho) From: "Brian Gross" > 3. Caetano Veloso (unknown to me) - The vision that popped into my head > was the > film Borat. This version of Dreamland would have worked perfectly there. He's one of the most revered songwriter/singers in Brazil, with an international following. He's credited as one of the originators of the Tropicalia movement in the sixties, that blended psychedelia, bossa nova, and Brazilian rhythms. When Brazil's government went fascist, he took refuge in England briefly, then was jailed in Brazil for his political views. (Luckily, the government changed for the better). I had the chance to see him a few years ago in San Francisco, and it was a wonderful experience. Lovely voices in the audience sang along in Portugese (a language I don't understand) like I'd never heard before-harmonies and all- I can't quite get my head around the Borat idea-although rhythmic, the soundtrack to that movie sounds very different to me from the Brazilian sound (then again, I haven't heard Veloso's "Dreamland" yet). RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:56:03 -0400 From: srobe444@aol.com Subject: Hiroshima Can't really let this one go. Although it seems popular now to pretend the Japanese were really interested in peace (I think Gore Vidal was urging this view in Why We Fight) the reality is they wanted to end the war on their terms and essentially pretend that they had never engaged in genocide, violations of the rules of war, human experimentation, forced sexual slavery, etc. and etc. They wanted to keep an army and navy, etc. Since they were not in any position to dictate terms, being defeated militarily, as seems to be conceded, it really was a non-starter to speak of a culturally acceptable surrender. Had they capitualted when unconditional surrender was demanded (nothing vague about that) they could have spared themselves Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Instead they decided to bluff Truman (talk about false and misguided courage!) and dare him to take the mainland. I thank God for Harry Truman, who I believe hoped there was a way around the A-bomb, but finally came to the reluctant conclusion there was not. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:06:42 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: Re: TX hooters njc the military is like large corporations. they lie, change number, distort facts to suit their needs. it's the nature of the beast. greed and ambition is rampant in geo w.'s administration. worst president ever. gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Notaro" To: "Bree Mcdonough" ; ; "Joni List" Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:48 AM Subject: Re: TX hooters njc > Speaking of war stories, Bree, not a word from you about the hearings > going > on in Washington about how our military lied and covered up the Jessica > Lynch and Tilman truth. > > Jerry > > >> Mia...yes ..but the emperor was an aggressor ..he did stay in "power" >> but >> had been emasculated by the bombings. Sort of like the queen of >> England >> of today....looks good..but with not much power or persuasion. >> Imperialistic Japan was a brutal one..and that is putting it mildly...one >> only has to read about the death march at Bataan. Also..during this >> time there were several failed coup attempts that Truman had to weigh >> when >> deciding about dropping the bombs. I think Truman did the >> necessary >> thing. By the way... we should not overlook that today Japan and the >> west are good friends. >> >> I just hope the history books don't revise too much. >> >> Bree >> >> PS. My father was a WW2 veteran....and military buff..so I was regaled >> with many war stories during my growing up years. >> >> >>> Bree - Dropping the bombs were altogether unnecessary. The Japanese >>> were >>> already willing to surrender - conditionally if they could keep their >>> emperor. Truman said no way. Others in the state dept understood the >>> Japanese culture - that death was preferable to not having an emperor - >>> and >>> tried to explain all this to deaf ears. After the bombs were dropped, >>> the >>> U.S. accepted the Japanese surrender conditionally anyhow. Japan got to >>> keep their emperor. So in the end, nothing changed, except A-Bombs >>> dropped >>> on women and babies - 200,000 add'l lives destroyed for no good reason. >>> >>> I certainly wouldn't call Truman a courageous being - at least not on >>> the >>> matter of dropping what you proudly boast of as The Big One. >>> >>> Mia >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <>> ... >>> >>> >>> Bree wrote: <>> ;-) He dropped the big one on Japan. Bringing WWII quickly to a >>> close..and thus saving thousands of American lives. Yes..thousands >>> died >>> but thousands more were saved in the long run.>> >>> >>> This statement disturbs me deeply. >> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> MSN is giving away a trip to Vegas to see Elton John. Enter to win >>> today. >>> http://msnconcertcontest.com?icid-nceltontagline >>> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Interest Rates NEAR 39yr LOWS! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,299/mo - >> Calculate >> new payment >> http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-19132&moid=14888 > > !DSPAM:144,462f42f477863542340302! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:40:00 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: World Tribute <<< I'm interested to know, which artists would people like to see perform which Joni song from your country for this hypothetical show. >>> - --------------------------------- Any Joni song by anyone except Fergie, Gwen Stefani, or Avril Lavigne. Ban them from the country if such a global performance would ever take place. - -Monika (likes naming people who are destroying music little by little) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #169 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------