From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #163 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, April 22 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 163 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni is heading for a fall at the ballet writes Rupert Christiansen [Gert] new albums (njc) [Victor Johnson ] Re: stupid question re iPod NJC [Victor Johnson ] Re: Joni is heading for a fall at the ballet writes Rupert Christiansen [Catherine McKay ] Joni's Feet exposed! [est86mlm@ameritech.net] Re: Joni's Feet exposed! [Catherine McKay ] shootings, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: njc shootings [Bob Muller ] STAS cover [Motitan@aol.com] NJC Hookah bars.... [Motitan@aol.com] Most underrated/overrated album [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Joni is heading for a fall at the ballet writes Rupert Christiansen [Gertus@aol.co] RE: shootings, njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Most underrated/overrated album [jeannie ] Fwd: RE: shootings, njc [jeannie ] Re: shootings, njc ["Randy Remote" ] Ho Dies, music news njc ["Randy Remote" ] RE: shootings, njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] SV: Most underrated/overrated album ["Marion Leffler" ] RE: Most underrated/overrated album ["Stephen Toogood" ] Fw: njc shootings [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:47:03 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Joni is heading for a fall at the ballet writes Rupert Christiansen _The arts column | Music | Arts | Telegraph_ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2007/04/18/baarts118.xml) Rupert Christiansen is the London Daily Telegraph's opera critic and has shown himself in the past to be a true Joni fan. He still is but, in this article, has probably misunderstood Joni's role in the ballet. He seems to think she has written the score whereas, as I understood it, she simply suggested which of her songs should be included. Is that right? Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:52:14 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: new albums (njc) I was browsing around this morning (imagine that...) and went to Ozzy's website to hear come clips from his upcoming album, "Black Rain." When the website opens, you're completely in the dark, moving a small cross around surrounded by bats. Depending on what part of the room you hold the cross over, you can hear some sound bytes from the new cd. If you move it over his logo, you hear him say, "My new album kicks fucking ass man!" What a novel way to promote a new album! I mean if he says that, it must be really, really good. Maybe Joni should try this technique. Victor, vaguely interested in Ozzy's cd before this morning and still vaguely interested ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:58:19 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: stupid question re iPod NJC On Apr 21, 2007, at 1:12 AM, Randy Remote wrote: > From: "Catherine McKay" >> And speaking of annoying, the only song I keep hearing >> in my head these days, because they keep playing it, >> is Avril Lavigne singing, "Hey! Hey! You! You! I don't >> like your girlfriend!" > > "Hey! Hey! You! You! Get Off of My Cloud"-Rolling Stones "Hey you, out there in the cold Getting lonely, getting old Can you feel me? " - Pink Floyd "Hey hey, my my, Rock n' roll will never die" -Neil Young "Hey all you jokers hunting seasons over." - Amy Ray "Hey man, whats the plan, what was that you said?" - Jethro Tull "Hey farmer farmer, put away that DDT now." - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:07:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni is heading for a fall at the ballet writes Rupert Christiansen - --- Gertus@aol.com wrote: > _The arts column | Music | Arts | Telegraph_ > (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2007/04/18/baarts118.xml) > > > Rupert Christiansen is the London Daily Telegraph's > opera critic and has > shown himself in the past to be a true Joni fan. He > still is but, in this > article, has probably misunderstood Joni's role in > the ballet. He seems to think > she has written the score whereas, as I understood > it, she simply suggested > which of her songs should be included. Is that > right? > > Jacky That's my understanding as well. I found it a bit of a confusing read, not helped by the headline (most likely written by an editor, not the writer),which suggests that the article is all about the ballet. But the first half is a review of the tribute CD, whereas the second half expresses Christiansen's concerns about pop musicians (including Joni) overreaching themselves by creating "classical" works of some kind. And then there's a last line (most likely not Christiansen's either) that says the tribute CD will be released next Monday. The article coulda used a better headline, and I think Christiansen is mistaken about Joni "writing" the score. Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:10:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: stupid question re iPod NJC Hey! Thanks, everyone, for giving me some other hey to munch on! (Here on a sunshiny going-up-to-22C kickass weekend!) - --- Victor Johnson wrote: > > > > "Hey! Hey! You! You! Get Off of My Cloud"-Rolling > Stones > > > "Hey you, out there in the cold > Getting lonely, getting old > Can you feel me? " - Pink Floyd > > "Hey hey, my my, > Rock n' roll will never die" -Neil Young > > "Hey all you jokers hunting seasons over." - Amy Ray > > "Hey man, whats the plan, what was that you said?" - > Jethro Tull > > "Hey farmer farmer, put away that DDT now." - Joni > Mitchell > Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:14:41 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Joni's Feet exposed! Go to: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/music/captive-on-the-carousel-of-time/2007/04/20/1176697070492.html Interview and a nice pic of a barefoot Joni. I'M AN UPPITY female," Joni Mitchell says while sitting in the kitchen of her house in an upmarket neighbourhood of Los Angeles. "In the media, there's no one like me. I'm as good as - and better than - most. But I'm not given my fair shake." Mitchell's house is big, warm and rustic, very much the abode of a working artist. A large pot of brushes sits out; a giant painting is propped against a wall. She looks healthy and serene, younger than her years, dressed in a casual smock and no-nonsense boots, and laughs readily and infectiously. When Mitchell announced her retirement as a recording artist in 2002, she did so spitting bile at what the music business had become. She bowed out with Travelogue, an orchestral revisiting of her earlier work, and quietly set about directing her creativity at her surviving passion: visual art. It's hard to reconcile that embittered woman of 58 with the energised, feisty, funny 63-year-old before me now. "Here," Mitchell says when I arrive, "let me hug you." I'm here as the producer of a two-part radio series in which Mitchell talks to her friend and fellow songwriter Amanda Ghost, whose R&B song Beautiful Liar, which she co-wrote for Beyonce and Shakira, has raced up the US charts. From the next room, I can hear the elegant strains of Mitchell's work in progress. Tentatively titled Shine, featuring a new version of Big Yellow Taxi and due later in the year, it will be her first album of new songs since 1998's Taming the Tiger........................................... Laura P.S. Do you know that if you sign-up for Borders Rewards you will get 30% and/or 20% off coupons in your email to be used at BORDERS BOOKS in-store or on-line monthly? http://www.bordersrewards.com/landing.aspx It makes those CDs and DVDs you want more affordable. It's FREE! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:30:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni's Feet exposed! This one does have a lot of the music-business-bashing and other stories we've already heard from Joni many times over, but it also comes off as more positive as well. And here's what the writer says about the ballet: "The newly inspired Mitchell has lately immersed herself in The Fiddle and the Drum, a ballet based on her songs and art by the Alberta Ballet Company in her native Canada. From merely advising on which of her songs to use, she has progressed to designing the set and collaborating with choreographer Jean Grand-Maitre." - --- est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: > Go to: > http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/music/captive-on-the-carousel-of-time/2007/04/20/1176697070492.html > > Interview and a nice pic of a barefoot Joni. > Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:39:56 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: shootings, njc When I saw the video of the press package, when I saw the gunman posed with the two guns in his hand. . . . I thought of George Bush and his face superimposed on that killers body with a gun in each hand. the decider. . that is just how I feel about him. sorry if I offended anyone. _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates near historic lows. Refinance $200,000 loan for as low as $771/month* https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f8&disc=y&vers=689&s=4056&p=5117 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 07:35:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njc shootings Thanks for the correction, Kakki - matter of fact, he used his green card to buy his guns. Exactly - at the end of the day, the vendor's desire to make a sale is going to outweigh the potentially dangerous consequnces of doing so. Obviously, if it's clear-cut that the buyer is not eligible, it won't happen - the seller's risk is too high. But when it's borderline? Different story. And given how many gun transactions happen outside of the reach of the Brady Bill anyway, it makes discussion of stricter/additional gun laws pretty silly. It's a tough call, though...about two years ago I worked with a guy who exhibited multiple demonstrations of angered disruptive behavior; throwing things, punching holes in the acoustical ceiling tile, yelling, and so forth. I went to my boss and went on the record as saying that I thought this guy was a dangerous threat and could easily go postal on us (we have security, but as long as you have a company issued ID badge you can go whereever you like, and there are no metal detectors or anything). My boss's response cracked me up..."Well Bob, you're not the first person that's told us this about him..." Goddam - then how about DEALING WITH IT! (Sidebar: The guy was fired last year for using his company-issued laptop to download porn, so he's gone now). Besides, how many of us know people that are eccentric, different, or as Joni would say, twisted? Until they literally present themselves as some kind of threat or DO something, how can we take any action? It reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street" where the community becomes self-destructive through their own paranoia. Hopefully we get smarter with each incident, but being the cynic that I am, I kinda doubt it. My gut tells me that Cho's "record" will probably be broken in our lifetime by another idiot whose agenda is just that. Bob NP: Mitch Easter, "Dusky Lair" - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:24:38 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: STAS cover I almost forgot to mention, a little while ago I saw some music magazine (one of those British ones) that featured the greatest album covers of many different genres/styles. This mag included Joni's STAS (I forget what she was lumped in with...they had different categories like stage covers....or psychedelic covers....or soft rock, etc). It also included who designed the cover, a few little facts, and such. Always good to read something Joni in magazines! - -Mon ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:50:38 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: NJC Hookah bars.... This has no Joni content whatsoever (except for her name just now haha) so delete if you must. Anyhow, I was just wondering if anyone has ever been to a hookah bar before? I went to one last night with a couple of friends and it was a good amount of fun. I always like trying new things and seeing a bit of different cultures as this was a Middle Eastern bar. They even had belly dancing there! It was very interesting and although I don't smoke (used to a while ago) I did smoke some "shisha" (it's just some flavored tobacco) from the hookah as that's the thing to do there. It was a nice mixed crowd there too. So you ever been to one? - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:55:41 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Most underrated/overrated album What do you think is Joni's most underrated album? And better yet (perhaps more difficult), what do you think is Joni's most overrated album? And of course overrated doesn't mean you don't like it so don't feel bad. For example, I love the Beatles but I can EASILY say Sgt. Pepper is OVERRATED. There are just better albums to me although I do like the album (love Within You, Without You and a Day In The Life). - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:30:30 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni is heading for a fall at the ballet writes Rupert Christiansen In a message dated 21/04/2007 14:07:46 GMT Standard Time, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: I found it a bit of a confusing read, not helped by the headline (most likely written by an editor, not the writer),which suggests that the article is all about the ballet. But the first half is a review of the tribute CD, whereas the second half expresses Christiansen's concerns about pop musicians (including Joni) overreaching themselves by creating "classical" works of some kind. Yes, but I understand what he's saying about pop artists getting involved in "classical projects" as they often don't work. I haven't heard the latest McCartney work but reviews haven't been great. I have listened to Sting's lute album and enjoyed the lute playing but felt Sting's singing just didn't come off. Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:47:54 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: shootings, njc This is so funny..geez.. I was thinking the killer's demeanor..MO.. reminded me more of our enemy...Islamic terrorists. Stupid me! But I have to remember ...that George Bush is responsible for ALL the ills in the world...and all future ills..........from the beginning of time.............. IT IS GEORGE BUSH!!....if only he wouldn't have been born...well life would be just like a big bowl of tofu. We wouldn't even need guns........... All Gore wouldn't have a platform because the climate would be oh so perfect... ..all environmentalists would have THEIR cabin in the woods.....Palestinians and Jews would play together in Tiddly Winks tournaments....the twenty-second amendment to the constitution would be stricken.. and Bill would be titular head from here on out...and that would leave you-know-who- at the helm. Offended anyone HERE?! Please! >When I saw the video of the press package, >when I saw the gunman posed with the two guns in his hand. . . . > >I thought of George Bush and his face superimposed on that killers body >with a gun in each hand. > >the decider. . > > >that is just how I feel about him. >sorry if I offended anyone. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Mortgage rates near historic lows. 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I too find Frida's writings so preciously provocative and her paintings color up suffering and beauty of the first degree and invoke so much sorrow. It really takes the heart of Mary to be a woman of this sort of canvas cloth of love and they certainly don't let anybody interrupt their personal sorrows because there is comfort in this sort of melancholy where there's no need to explain, so we find another ways, such as painting with words and speaking with paintings because the Spirit talks in so, so many levels and spectrums...bottom line, it's all about LOVE! - --- Motitan@aol.com wrote: > What do you think is Joni's most underrated album? > And better yet (perhaps > more difficult), what do you think is Joni's most > overrated album? And of > course overrated doesn't mean you don't like it so > don't feel bad. For > example, I love the Beatles but I can EASILY say > Sgt. Pepper is OVERRATED. There > are just better albums to me although I do like the > album (love Within You, > Without You and a Day In The Life). > -Monika > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. > Dreaming, dancing with blacktar babies, Jeannie jjj Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:34:38 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: RE: shootings, njc Bree, I don't think Laura blames everything on George. She just wants out from his Dubya world of politics. I saw a documentary a few years back about George W. Bush right around the time he was growing up to be Texas governor at the tender age of 40 something. As a businessman he was a complete failure in all of his money-making endeavors and he wanted to prove to his daddy once and for all and to all of the world and to himself, especially that he was not a born Bush loser...and well, that's when Karl Rove took him by his little baby Bush hand and once again Bush Baby Boy has proved himself to be the good ol' Dubya cowboy he's always been as Rove lost his hand at gambling at the canteen. Time to pack it in! I heard they are. Can you argue that point, Bree? Or are you going to come down on me too for praying for and saying, "just what I feel about him?" So, please don't interrupt our sorrows, if we do not agree with Bush and you Bree, okay? Yeshua said we have to pray for our enemies and leaders no matter what and who they are. That's exactly what I do and the evil spirits and evil spirited politicians and short sighted businessmen cringe at our praying for our enemies ecstasies because they can't go there and afraid at the power of prayer because they know not what they do other than greedlust. - --- Bree Mcdonough wrote: > This is so funny..geez.. I was thinking the killer's > demeanor..MO.. reminded > me more of our enemy...Islamic terrorists. Stupid > me! But I have to > remember ...that George Bush is responsible for ALL > the ills in the > world...and all future ills..........from the > beginning of > time.............. > > IT IS GEORGE BUSH!!....if only he wouldn't have been > born...well life would > be just like a big bowl of tofu. We wouldn't even > need guns........... > All Gore wouldn't have a platform because the > climate would be oh so > perfect... ..all environmentalists would have THEIR > cabin in the > woods.....Palestinians and Jews would play together > in Tiddly Winks > tournaments....the twenty-second amendment to the > constitution would be > stricken.. and Bill would be titular head from here > on out...and that would > leave you-know-who- at the helm. > > > Offended anyone HERE?! Please! > > > > >When I saw the video of the press package, > >when I saw the gunman posed with the two guns in > his hand. . . . > > > >I thought of George Bush and his face superimposed > on that killers body > >with a gun in each hand. > > > >the decider. . > > > > > >that is just how I feel about him. > >sorry if I offended anyone. > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Mortgage rates near historic lows. Refinance > $200,000 loan for as low as > >$771/month* > >https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f8&disc=y&vers=689&s=4056&p=5117 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Need a break? Find your escape route with Live > Search Maps. > http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag3 > Dreaming, dancing with blacktar babies, Jeannie jjj Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:46:34 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Fwd: RE: shootings, njc - --- jeannie wrote: > I saw a documentary a few years back about George W. > Bush right around the time he was growing up to be > Texas governor at the tender age of 40 something. Duh, sorry, I meant to say, Dubya's tender age of 50 something. He was just starting to bloom out of adolescense, oh say, Bree, can you see?. :) Dreaming, dancing with blacktar babies, Jeannie jjj Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:25:37 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: shootings, njc From: "Bree Mcdonough" > This is so funny..geez.. I was thinking the killer's demeanor..MO.. reminded > me more of our enemy...Islamic terrorists. Stupid me! But I have to > remember ...that George Bush is responsible for ALL the ills in the > world... > IT IS GEORGE BUSH!!....if only he wouldn't have been born...well life > would be just like a big bowl of tofu. Offended anyone HERE?! Please! I am definitely offended that some two bit punk killer has been compared to a man who has presided over the extermination of half a million lives. This kid is a pretender. George is the real deal. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:26:07 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Ho Dies, music news njc Hawaiian music legend Don Ho ("Tiny Bubbles") passed away at the age of 76, after ongoing heart problems. He performed up until 3 days before his death. What did you think I meant? Icelandic chanteuse Bjork will be the musical guest tonight on Saturday Night Live. Sen. John McCain sang "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Bomb (Iran)" to the tune of the Beach Boys "Barbara Ann" at a town hall meeting in Arizona, to the amusement of some in the crowd. Asked about the comment later, he said lighten up, it was just a joke. The video is one of the most popular on YouTube. The Eagles will have a new album, "The Long Road To Eden", expected to drop in June. Keith Richards, when asked "what is the weirdest thing you have ever snorted?", said that he once mixed a bit of his dad's cremated ashes with some cocaine, as a tribute to the old man. It's not clear whether this was a joke, as his representatives later claimed, but it did not sit well with Disney. Richards has a cameo appearance in the new Pirates of the Carribean movie. I guess murder, cannabalism, and alcoholism raise no such objections. The company doesn't plan to use Richards for the publicity machine, and don't need to, the last "Pirates" movie pulled in a billion $ worldwide. Richie Sambora (Bon Jovi) and actress Heather Locklear are officially divorced, ending a long (for Hollywood) marriage. Green Day's Billie Joe Armstrong and his family recently went to New Orleans to help Habitat For Humanity in rebuilding homes for those in need. Johnny Cash's former home, which was being renovated by new owner Barry Gibb (BeeGees) burned to the ground. A flammible wood presevative may have been the cause. An unconfirmed report says that Hard Rock Cafe will open a theme park, Mt. Rockmore, with a 250-ton sand sculpture based on the famous presidential monument, but with the faces of Hendrix, Lennon, Marley, and Elvis. A former manager for the Grateful Dead, Ronald Rakow, has been sentenced to 5 years in the pen for tax evasion. Stevie Wonder's grammy for the album "Innervisions" was stolen years ago, and was bought and sold a few times before appearing in a rock auction in LA. Stevie tried to stop the sale, but was unable to, and ended up winning the auction himself for $37,000 to get his statue back. You could be signed to Geffen Records, if your music is selected for their new movie project, "Bratz". Geffen execs will review songs until May 15th. More info at BratzSoundtrack.com. Sting has hinted that a new album may follow the current Police tour, but don't hold every breath. Yusef "Cat Stevens" Islam has denied reports that he will not speak to unvieled women. With the help of the Zappa family, a DVD will be released documenting the recording of Frank Zappa's albums "Over- Nite Sensation", and "Apostrophe". Nick Drake fans: some unreleased early works, and cover songs will be part of the new 28 track album "Family Tree", due out June 20. Also planned: "The Fruit Tree" box set, with Drakes' 3 studio albums, a book, and a DVD doc "A Skin Too Few". PBS will air "Summer of Love" about San Francisco's Haight- Ashbury in 1967, Monday, April 23. Check local listings. Les Paul will celebrate his 92nd birthday at his regular gig- venue, NY's Iridium Club, on June 11, 2007. From Rolling Stone's 25 best rock rumours ever: 2. Stevie Nicks' assistant had to blow coke up Stevie's ass due to Nicks' destroyed nasal passages. http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/04/02/rolling-stones-lis t-of-the-25-best-rock-rumors-ever/ Jazz guitar great Larry Coryell will publish his autobiography "Improvising: My Life In Music" on June 5. He's currently on a limited tour of the US. Lots of Beatle news-Paul McCartney's new album, the first original release by Starbuck's Hear Music will be called "Memory Almost Full", and will include a 15m Abbey Road style suite, and a song called "Robber of Soul". Rel=June5. Neil Aspinall has left Apple Records. He has been with The Beatles longer than Ringo, driving the band around to gigs in a van. He provided the boys with tea and sympathy and whatever weird instruments they might require during the studio years, and later steered the company through the nightmare of legal troubles that lasted 20 years, as well as sheparding the Anthology dvd and cd releases. Anyone who has appreciated this band owes a big thanks to the man George Harrison declared deserving of the title "5th Beatle". Beatles original drummer Pete Best has declared he would like to meet up with Paul McCartney, and talk about the old days. "We're not getting any younger", he said. Apple Corps has settled their $59 million suit with EMI for an undisclosed amount regarding alledged unpaid royalties from 1994-99. Pattie "Layla" Boyd, the "Hard Day's Night" dancer that became wife of George Harrison and Eric Clapton is said to be getting a million dollar advance for her autobiography. Sgt Pepper engineer Geoff Emerick will use original Abbey Road equipment to record a 40th anniversary version of the album for BBC Radio2, airing on June 2nd, with The Killers, Oasis and others doing the songs. No CD release has been announced. John Lennon's white "Imagine" piano, purchased by George Michael, will go on tour, to be photographed at scenes of past violence such as the site of Martin Luther King's killing, as part of a peace promotion. Yoko Ono is staging an "Imagine Peace" campaign in which people tie written wishes to "wish trees" (potted cherry trees) in cities around the world. She plans on incorporating the collected wishes into her Imagine Peace Tower, a light sculpture which will be installed in Iceland later this year. She also unveiled a 55-foot billboard in Washington DC which had the words "Imagine Peace". It will be there for the rest of April. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:10:55 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: shootings, njc >Bree, I don't think Laura blames everything on George. >She just wants out from his Dubya world of politics. Laura Stanley? >As a businessman he was a complete failure in all of >his money-making endeavors and he wanted to prove to >his daddy once and for all and to all of the world and >to himself, especially that he was not a born Bush >loser...and well, that's when Karl Rove took him by >his little baby Bush hand and once again Bush Baby Boy >has proved himself to be the good ol' Dubya cowboy >he's always been as Rove lost his hand at gambling at >the canteen. Time to pack it in! I heard they are. He wouldn't be the first nor the last to have a failed business in his past. You know...give me a little more "cowboy" ... "where have all the cowboys gone" .....No..wimps like Harry- we-have-lost - Reid seems to loom large. This just might be the case..but does the major leader in the Senate want to convey THAT...during a war... to our military ...much less our enemies? How wise was that "little" statement? I think Harry boy was way out of line. >Can you argue that point, Bree? Or are you going to >come down on me too for >praying for and saying, "just what I feel about him?" >So, please don't interrupt our sorrows, if we do not >agree with Bush and you Bree, okay? Come down on you? You can say anything you want about GW...I have no problem with your opinion. But I have mine. As I have understood...he was a fairly good in governing the mammoth Texas. Not to rehash..but I think Bush thought it was a prudent and wise thing going into Iraq. For our national security..blah..blah..blah...it was his call...exercising his duty as Commander In Chief. Many people thought from the very beginning it was a mistake....many since have gotten weak in the knees... history will judge...and as many times is the case ..that something deemed at the time to be a great thing..has turned out not so great... things thought a tragic mistake ... weren't... Bree . > > > >--- Bree Mcdonough wrote: > > > This is so funny..geez.. I was thinking the killer's > > demeanor..MO.. reminded > > me more of our enemy...Islamic terrorists. Stupid > > me! But I have to > > remember ...that George Bush is responsible for ALL > > the ills in the > > world...and all future ills..........from the > > beginning of > > time.............. > > > > IT IS GEORGE BUSH!!....if only he wouldn't have been > > born...well life would > > be just like a big bowl of tofu. We wouldn't even > > need guns........... > > All Gore wouldn't have a platform because the > > climate would be oh so > > perfect... ..all environmentalists would have THEIR > > cabin in the > > woods.....Palestinians and Jews would play together > > in Tiddly Winks > > tournaments....the twenty-second amendment to the > > constitution would be > > stricken.. and Bill would be titular head from here > > on out...and that would > > leave you-know-who- at the helm. > > > > > > Offended anyone HERE?! Please! > > > > > > > > >When I saw the video of the press package, > > >when I saw the gunman posed with the two guns in > > his hand. . . . > > > > > >I thought of George Bush and his face superimposed > > on that killers body > > >with a gun in each hand. > > > > > >the decider. . > > > > > > > > >that is just how I feel about him. > > >sorry if I offended anyone. > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Mortgage rates near historic lows. 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Start Today! http://www.classesusa.com/clickcount.cfm?id=866146&goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.classesusa.com%2Ffeaturedschools%2Fonlinedegreesmp%2Fform-dyn1.html%3Fsplovr%3D866144 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:19:55 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Most underrated/overrated album I think that CAS is definitely overrated and THOSL is the most underrated. To me, THOSL is just as good as Hejira. Mingus might be underrated, I am not one to tell since I don't get Mingus myself. The most overrated song Joni has written is Big Yellow Taxi, if you ask me. It certainly is a nice little sing-along song but she has done so much better! I'm a little surprised to find that she has after all given in to "the business" by putting it on every collection of her work, and even the brandnew one coming up has a new version of it, or so I heard anyway. I'm not saying that it has nothing to say, we still haven't resolved our environmental problems, far from it, but "don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you got 'til it's gone" just sounds a bit too simple these days. But - it's one of her rare hits, maybe it would be asking too much of her not to go on exploiting that success. Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Motitan@aol.com Skickat: den 21 april 2007 17:56 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: Most underrated/overrated album What do you think is Joni's most underrated album? And better yet (perhaps more difficult), what do you think is Joni's most overrated album? And of course overrated doesn't mean you don't like it so don't feel bad. For example, I love the Beatles but I can EASILY say Sgt. Pepper is OVERRATED. There are just better albums to me although I do like the album (love Within You, Without You and a Day In The Life). - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:17:51 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: SV: Most underrated/overrated album Hi Marion, Concerning the hit performed by many others, Big Yellow Taxi, yes, it may be very simple--but I don't think Joni's exploiting the success of BYT. To me, the song's true success is it's simple message which is alot more revelant now than what it was way back when Joni made the song. That song was the eye opener of many who were blind to the fact that we were destroying our planet..and still, children like my nieces who were here with me last night (we had a pajama party ages 3, 5, 7, and 49) can use the song as a reference to why we should leave spots on our apples to leave us the birds and the bees because they already took away our fireflies and so many pretty insects are dying away. They can't read the Kyoto Protocol so they have Joni's song to sing along to. They have the Keb'Mo version singing along with his little boy, they have the Amy Grant version, and they have the other version with a guy singing real nice and lively and they always play that one at the stores as you shop. And they have the Joni Mitchell version and that's their favorite. Last night they were playing claves, maracas, brazilian nut shakers, guiro and we were dancing away to Joni and her black tar babies!! Now, that to me is true success :) Hurt not the earth Neither sea Nor the trees. Revelations 7:3 - -- Marion Leffler wrote: > I think that CAS is definitely overrated and THOSL > is the most underrated. > To me, THOSL is just as good as Hejira. Mingus might > be underrated, I am not > one to tell since I don't get Mingus myself. > The most overrated song Joni has written is Big > Yellow Taxi, if you ask me. > It certainly is a nice little sing-along song but > she has done so much > better! I'm a little surprised to find that she has > after all given in to > "the business" by putting it on every collection of > her work, and even the > brandnew one coming up has a new version of it, or > so I heard anyway. I'm > not saying that it has nothing to say, we still > haven't resolved our > environmental problems, far from it, but "don't it > always seem to go that > you don't know what you got 'til it's gone" just > sounds a bit too simple > these days. But - it's one of her rare hits, maybe > it would be asking too > much of her not to go on exploiting that success. > Marion > > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr > Motitan@aol.com > Skickat: den 21 april 2007 17:56 > Till: joni@smoe.org > Dmne: Most underrated/overrated album > > What do you think is Joni's most underrated album? > And better yet (perhaps > > more difficult), what do you think is Joni's most > overrated album? And of > course overrated doesn't mean you don't like it so > don't feel bad. For > example, I love the Beatles but I can EASILY say > Sgt. Pepper is OVERRATED. > There > are just better albums to me although I do like the > album (love Within You, > > Without You and a Day In The Life). > -Monika > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at > http://www.aol.com. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:23:08 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: SV: Most underrated/overrated album Sorry that I wrote revelant instead of relevant--I guess I was thinking revelation or was I thinking revolucion? - --- jeannie wrote: > Hi Marion, > > To me, > the > song's true success is it's simple message which is > alot more revelant now than what it was way back > when > Joni made the song. > Hurt not the earth > Neither sea > Nor the trees. > > Revelations 7:3 Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:34:12 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Fwd: Re: SV: Most underrated/overrated album I got a dizzy dancing way you feel with all that relevant stuff. What I was thinking is the phrase which keeps playing in my head 'Oh the jealousy The greed Is the unraveling and it undoes all the joy that could be I wanna talk to 'ya I wanna shampoo 'ya I wanna renew you again and again Alive, Alive Life is our cause When I think of your kisses My mind see-saws Do you see? Do you see? Do you see how you hurt me, baby? So I hurt you, too And we both get sooo blue//a little strummin' and hummin' and that's Joni Mitchell in my head! - --- jeannie wrote: > Sorry that I wrote revelant instead of relevant--I > guess I was thinking revelation or was I thinking > revolucion? > Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:37:42 -0400 From: Doug Subject: Human Rights MUSEUM! njc Back in the '60s: They took all the trees and put 'em in a tree museum, and now... http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=eb73ba66-85f6-41cf-b3b5-2fbb5464a2e8 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 00:04:10 +0100 From: "Stephen Toogood" Subject: RE: Most underrated/overrated album Funny you should raise this subject Monika! I only just did a review on Amazon for Clouds, putting accross how underrated I think it is. Overrated - Hejira. Ste >From: Motitan@aol.com >Reply-To: Motitan@aol.com >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Most underrated/overrated album >Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:55:41 EDT > >What do you think is Joni's most underrated album? And better yet >(perhaps >more difficult), what do you think is Joni's most overrated album? And of >course overrated doesn't mean you don't like it so don't feel bad. For >example, I love the Beatles but I can EASILY say Sgt. Pepper is OVERRATED. > There >are just better albums to me although I do like the album (love Within >You, >Without You and a Day In The Life). >-Monika > > > >************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. _________________________________________________________________ Solve the Conspiracy and win fantastic prizes. http://www.theconspiracygame.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:56:29 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: RE: TX hooters njc Hi Bree! - --- Bree Mcdonough wrote: > >Bree, I don't think Laura blames everything on > George. > >She just wants out from his Dubya world of > politics. > > Laura Stanley? I meant Laura TeaTree and Laura Bush, I don't know if she likes this administration's war, Bree. Like Barbara Bush, who said on Good Morning America that her "mind is too beautiful to waste thinking of the dead soldier's body bags coming home." I think she says she prefers her gardening. > > > >As a businessman he was a complete failure in all > of > >his money-making endeavors and he wanted to prove > to > >his daddy once and for all and to all of the world > and > >to himself, especially that he was not a born Bush > >loser...and well, that's when Karl Rove took him by > >his little baby Bush hand and once again Bush Baby > Boy > >has proved himself to be the good ol' Dubya cowboy > >he's always been as Rove lost his hand at gambling > at > >the canteen. Time to pack it in! I heard they are. > > He wouldn't be the first nor the last to have a > failed business in his > past. You know...give me a little more "cowboy" > ... "where have all the > cowboys gone" .....No..wimps like Harry- > we-have-lost - Reid seems to > loom large. This just might be the case..but > does the major leader in > the Senate want to convey THAT...during a war... to > our military ...much > less our enemies? How wise was that "little" > statement? I think Harry > boy was way out of line. Harry Reid is one of the most courageous politicians out there, Bree. What do you mean? That so called nerd has the balls of Che Guevara. I'm sure you and Anne Coulter think all Democrats and Independents are bunch of sissy whiney whistlin' hummingbird fags like John Edwards, no? Not tough enough to hang with this Iraqi war and the tough relentless militant hawks, huh? ~Demo Faggots are out of line, Mss. Coulter and Bree, and y'all are not to blame. Damn them democratic sissy souls who don't want anymore innocents lives lost to this war! > > >Can you argue that point, Bree? Or are you going to > >come down on me too for > >praying for and saying, "just what I feel about > him?" > >So, please don't interrupt our sorrows, if we do > not > >agree with Bush and you Bree, okay? > > Come down on you? You can say anything you want > about GW...I have no > problem with your opinion. But I have mine. > As I have understood...he > was a fairly good in governing the mammoth Texas. Huh? Please state references. If good governing means putting prison people to death at the snap of a finger and handing out gargantuan political favors, what's bad governing? > > Not to rehash..but I think Bush thought it was a > prudent and wise thing > going into Iraq. For our national > security..blah..blah..blah...it was his > call...exercising his duty as Commander In Chief. > Many people thought > from the very beginning it was a mistake....many > since have gotten weak in > the knees... > > history will judge...and as many times is the case > ..that something deemed > at the time to be a great thing..has turned out not > so great... things > thought a tragic mistake ... Well, name me a few historical cases for reference, please. > > > weren't... > > > Bree> Bree, aren't you tired of this war or are you glad we are there? > > > . > > > > > > > >--- Bree Mcdonough > wrote: > > > > > This is so funny..geez.. I was thinking the > killer's > > > demeanor..MO.. reminded > > > me more of our enemy...Islamic terrorists. > Stupid > > > me! But I have to > > > remember ...that George Bush is responsible for > ALL > > > the ills in the > > > world...and all future ills..........from the > > > beginning of > > > time.............. > > > > > > IT IS GEORGE BUSH!!....if only he wouldn't have > been > > > born...well life would > > > be just like a big bowl of tofu. We wouldn't > even > > > need guns........... > > > All Gore wouldn't have a platform because the > > > climate would be oh so > > > perfect... ..all environmentalists would have > THEIR > > > cabin in the > > > woods.....Palestinians and Jews would play > together > > > in Tiddly Winks > > > tournaments....the twenty-second amendment to > the > > > constitution would be > > > stricken.. and Bill would be titular head from > here > > > on out...and that would > > > leave you-know-who- at the helm. > > > > > > > > > Offended anyone HERE?! Please! > > > > > > > > > > > > >When I saw the video of the press package, > > > >when I saw the gunman posed with the two guns > in > > > his hand. . . . > > > > > > > >I thought of George Bush and his face > superimposed > > > on that killers body > > > >with a gun in each hand. > > > > > > > >the decider. . > > > > > > > > > > > >that is just how I feel about him. > > > >sorry if I offended anyone. > > > > > > > > > Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:34:03 -0700 From: Subject: Fw: njc shootings Bob, I hate to say I chuckled a bit at your work place experience. Been there. I have about 5 of those um, colorful, stories over the year that I could tell. Law firms can attract a real mix of personalities. I'm always threatening to write a book one day. The ones I knew were never fired, no matter what, but after numerous complaints, were isolated at some point and put in an office with nothing to do. No one wanted to confront them and so it was just hoped they would quit some day. Some were violent or otherwise destructive but I wouldn't consider any of them to be murderous. Others who are just eccentric or have their idiosynchracies are different. They often require an adjustment to work with but they usually have something of value or brillance to contribute so one tends to try to get along with and appreciate them. However, then there is the (thankfully) rare individual where all the hairs on your body stand up and who give you a strong sense of unease and fear. It's a gut instinct. In one class of Cho's something like 65 out of 70 classmates refused to continue coming to class unless he was removed. For that many people to feel such a strong reaction should be a red flag. Then the problem is probably everyone is afraid of doing anything to set him off so the problem is just passed along. Some of his teachers said they always gave him an automatic A just because they didn't want him to go off. I've encountered a few scary people like this over time and you just feel something awful to have to deal with them. I don't know the solution but somehow there has to be some better way to deal with these people. Psychiatry may have a long way to go at this point. I think that isone of the lessons from this terrible event. Kakki ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #163 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------