From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #144 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, April 7 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 144 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni's taste in books [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Breaking through the delurk-phase [missblux@googlemail.com] SJC 80'es [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #143 [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: SJC 80'es ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Breaking through the delurk-phase ["Oddmund Kaarevik" ] Re: Need some Scandinavian language help.now njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Need some Scandinavian language help.now njc [Catherine McKay ] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Joni=27s=20taste=20in=20books?= ["=?ISO-8859-1?Q?L] Re: Need some Scandinavian language help. ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: My Eternal Gratitude [Motitan@aol.com] RE: NJC bikini trooper ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: weather and fest NJC [mags h ] Joni and John Lennon [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Need some Scandinavian language help. ["Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Joni's taste in books Yes, Garret, she has spoken about Lord of The Rings and I believe there was a discussion here about the influence of that book on I Think I Understand. Her first publishing company was Gandalf Publishing. That was before SIQUOMB. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 12:14:09 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Breaking through the delurk-phase Hi Kaare, first of all, one of my next projects is to listen to some more Cyndi Lauper, after I heard that version of Carey! I knew some of her music form the eighties but in those days I was more into jazz, so all I've got is Miles Davies' cover of Time after Time. One of them is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY-VHuM0TJc&mode=related&search= Secondly, I may be brining the reformation to Olso this summer! If I get my act together I'll be attending a conference there first week of July. Thirdly, Susanne Sundfor is amazing! Its wild and pretty at the same time. I'll be back in Copenhagen soon and will look out for her coming that way. http://www.myspace.com/susannesundfoer Wow...! Bene ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 12:35:11 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: SJC 80'es Am just listening to Miles playing Time after Time, It reminds me of the many discussions we've had about Joni's music in the eighties. I remember when the record came out, I think some people thought it was daring of a jazz musician to play a pop-song - does anyone remember? Also about the same time I got a record with Herbie Hancock playing electronic music; I don't think anyone remembers it as a highlight, but it was new and different. And I got Dog eat Dog.... and a perm, and so did Joni! It was a strange decade, wasn't it? There were so many new things going on and I think people were generally fascinated and disoriented at the same time but had a lot of determination to live a new kind of life - hi tech from now on, or someting along those lines. But a lot of the music and the design and the fashion and the ideas that came from it were somehow abortive. It is almost as if people couldn't really cope with where society was going. Any thoughts? I always thought it was just me being young that made the whole decade feel like that, but maybe it was the decade... I wonder if this sounds garbled. But I also wonder how much Joni's music from that decade was emblematic of the decade as such. I mean, look at pictures of yourself in the eighties - did you look like someone out of Dog Eat Dog perhaps...? Bene ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 12:42:45 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #143 I never realized that it was normal to use 'my old man' in this way, not even listening to that Joni song. Its an interesting observation Em, I don't think they used that sort of expressions in Scandinavia. Bene Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 08:31:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Joni's taste in books now sorta NJC I find alot of that aspect in the culture of the 60 and early 70's. A kind of age weariness well beyond the years of the people. Kind of a beat thing I guess. But even referring to regular pelvic affiliates as one's "old man" or "old lady" ties into that. It seems weird now to think of people in their early 20's, still wet behind the ears, using those phrases. Even understanding the blues connection, and their desire to use that language for the sake of hipness. Seems overly world-weary. Would be interesting to read Steppenwolf again, now that I'm probably at least as old as Harry Haller. Em ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 07:59:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: SJC 80'es Wondering if anyone else watched Wayne Shorter and Herbie Hancock on the Thelonius Monk Tribute last night? missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > Am just listening to Miles playing Time after Time, It reminds me of > the many discussions we've had about Joni's music in the eighties. > > I remember when the record came out, I think some people thought it > was daring of a jazz musician to play a pop-song - does anyone > remember? > > Also about the same time I got a record with Herbie Hancock playing > electronic music; I don't think anyone remembers it as a highlight, > but it was new and different. And I got Dog eat Dog.... and a perm, > and so did Joni! > > It was a strange decade, wasn't it? There were so many new things > going on and I think people were generally fascinated and disoriented > at the same time but had a lot of determination to live a new kind of > life - hi tech from now on, or someting along those lines. > > But a lot of the music and the design and the fashion and the ideas > that came from it were somehow abortive. It is almost as if people > couldn't really cope with where society was going. > > Any thoughts? I always thought it was just me being young that made > the whole decade feel like that, but maybe it was the decade... > > I wonder if this sounds garbled. But I also wonder how much Joni's > music from that decade was emblematic of the decade as such. I mean, > look at pictures of yourself in the eighties - did you look like > someone out of Dog Eat Dog perhaps...? > > Bene ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 14:48:58 +0200 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: Re: Breaking through the delurk-phase Thanks Bene ! Very inspiring to hear from you ! And Cyndi Lauper won't let you down The album "True colours" is especially good - But "She's so unusual" also has a great energy ! I will be in Oslo - when you attend your conference - If you're up for a mini-joni fest - I'm sure that would be fun ! Susanne Sundfor is doing some concerts at that time - but i see they are all set outside of Oslo - but i'm sure we will hear more from her. Glad you enjoyed her music. She is amazing. Only 21 years old. And on her blog was this Joni quote " i don't want to be a human jukebox" Hope that doesn't mean she will not give concerts - because I'm sure it's great to hear her live, But you can always check her website for updated iformation : www.susannesundfor.com All the best ! Oddmund On 4/7/07, missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > > Hi Kaare, > > first of all, one of my next projects is to listen to some more Cyndi > Lauper, after I heard that version of Carey! I knew some of her music > form the eighties but in those days I was more into jazz, so all I've > got is Miles Davies' cover of Time after Time. One of them is here: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY-VHuM0TJc&mode=related&search= > > > Secondly, I may be brining the reformation to Olso this summer! If I > get my act together I'll be attending a conference there first week of > July. > > Thirdly, Susanne Sundfor is amazing! Its wild and pretty at the same > time. I'll be back in Copenhagen soon and will look out for her coming > that way. > > http://www.myspace.com/susannesundfoer > > Wow...! > > Bene ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 13:52:02 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Breaking through the delurk-phase I don't think I'll ever understand how some people can be so great when they are so young... 21...? How does that work?? Benedicte On 4/7/07, Oddmund Kaarevik wrote: > Thanks Bene ! > Very inspiring to hear from you ! > And Cyndi Lauper won't let you down > The album "True colours" is especially good - > But "She's so unusual" also has a great energy ! > > I will be in Oslo - when you attend your conference - > If you're up for a mini-joni fest - I'm sure that would be fun ! > > Susanne Sundfor is doing some concerts at that time - but i see they are all > set outside of Oslo - but i'm sure we will hear more from her. Glad you > enjoyed her music. She is amazing. Only 21 years old. And on her blog was > this Joni quote " i don't want to be a human jukebox" Hope that doesn't mean > she will not give concerts - because I'm sure it's great to hear her live, > But you can always check her website for updated iformation : > www.susannesundfor.com > > All the best ! > Oddmund > > > On 4/7/07, missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > > Hi Kaare, > > > > first of all, one of my next projects is to listen to some more Cyndi > > Lauper, after I heard that version of Carey! I knew some of her music > > form the eighties but in those days I was more into jazz, so all I've > > got is Miles Davies' cover of Time after Time. One of them is here: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY-VHuM0TJc&mode=related&search= > > > > > > Secondly, I may be brining the reformation to Olso this summer! If I > > get my act together I'll be attending a conference there first week of > > July. > > > > Thirdly, Susanne Sundfor is amazing! Its wild and pretty at the same > > time. I'll be back in Copenhagen soon and will look out for her coming > > that way. > > > > http://www.myspace.com/susannesundfoer > > > > Wow...! > > > > Bene ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 14:03:10 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: Patti Smith @ the Springsteen Tribute njc Hey Rosie - thanks for posting this link. I just love Because The Night when Natalie Merchant is NOT singing it. it is so different with just piano accompaniment. It is usually a fairly rocking song when Patti plays it live but here it has a very different feel. I love how she gets a little clap for hocking on the stage at Carnegie Hall, lol. Given that her upcoming album is an album of covers i would have loved if she had actually sung another song, but still, BTN is a very special song for Patti and Bruce's hand in it,as she points out, makes it very relevant for the tribute.... brings back memories of the Joni tribute at Carnegie. GARRET Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 18:55:24 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Patti Smith @ the Springsteen Tribute njc _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Pgb5lkuow_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Pgb5lkuow) enjoy rosie in nj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 05:59:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC We'll travel along, singing a song, side by side And the same goes for me, Kenny - and of course we have to give credit to Apod, Sue and the other musicians who kept the songs going. And hey we got to sing "Down To You" together, one of our favorite songs. What a great memory singing that one with you. Enjoy Florida and keep dreaming the Joni dreams. Bob NP: Fiona Apple, "The Way Things Are" - --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 06:17:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Need some Scandinavian language help. Hi Bene & Oddmund, I'm wondering if you can help me - I bought an LP on ebay with three Joni covers; the seller said they were in French. Now I know that I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I also know that this ain't French. It looks like it might be Finnish but my knowledge of Scandinavian languages is right up there with Bush's foreign policy skills.. I thought maybe you along with other JMDLer's in the vicinity with more knowledge than me could help. Both Sides Now is called "Pilved" and the first verse goes like this: "Lund ja und mu silme ees, sulgpehmeid losse korgustes ja valgeid lambaid sinivees nii pilvi nainud ma" And of course there are lots of accent marks that I can't reproduce here. So what do you think? Is that enough to tell? I can send an mp3 if that would help. She does Morning Morgantown, Songs to Aging Children Come, and BSN. For me, it's quite a rare treasure. Thanks in advance if you can help me out. Oddmund, it's been great to see your name in my mailbox again. Bob NP: Bryan Thomas, "cycle" - --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 09:27:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Need some Scandinavian language help.now njc - --- Bob Muller wrote: > Hi Bene & Oddmund, > > I'm wondering if you can help me - I bought an LP > on ebay with three Joni covers; the seller said they > were in French. Now I know that I'm not the sharpest > knife in the drawer, but I also know that this ain't > French. LOL! To some (English-speaking) people, anything that is NOT English, is French. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 10:01:26 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Need some Scandinavian language help.now njc On Apr 7, 2007, at 9:27 AM, Catherine McKay wrote > > LOL! To some (English-speaking) people, anything that > is NOT English, is French > And they're totally missing out. I've been singing in Italian, German, and French this semester. Oh, and a bit of Spanish as I had to learn that national anthem. Each language has its own beauty. I remember when I was in France though with my exgirlfriend, Amandine and knew only a handful of French. She would start talking to someone and I would understand about zero of what they were saying...lol I did communicate musically with several people however, in particular, a cajun band from her town, LaBorne, who were totally down with jamming and making music. Music, the universal language. Victor, who is half Scandinavian but doesn't speak any ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 15:17:33 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Need some Scandinavian language help. Uhm you knw Im the comparative linguist here so I should know.... It doesn't really look like Finnish to me, but some... SO I am betting on Estonian, but Iill find out, just wait a sec! Benedicte On 4/7/07, Bob Muller wrote: > Hi Bene & Oddmund, > > I'm wondering if you can help me - I bought an LP on ebay with three Joni > covers; the seller said they were in French. Now I know that I'm not the > sharpest knife in the drawer, but I also know that this ain't French. It > looks like it might be Finnish but my knowledge of Scandinavian languages is > right up there with Bush's foreign policy skills.. I thought maybe you along > with other JMDLer's in the vicinity with more knowledge than me could help. > > Both Sides Now is called "Pilved" and the first verse goes like this: > > "Lund ja und mu silme ees, > sulgpehmeid losse korgustes > ja valgeid lambaid sinivees > nii pilvi nainud ma" > > And of course there are lots of accent marks that I can't reproduce here. So > what do you think? Is that enough to tell? I can send an mp3 if that would > help. She does Morning Morgantown, Songs to Aging Children Come, and BSN. > For me, it's quite a rare treasure. > > Thanks in advance if you can help me out. Oddmund, it's been great to see > your name in my mailbox again. > > Bob > > NP: Bryan Thomas, "cycle" > > > > ________________________________ > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and > always stay connected to friends. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 15:19:39 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Need some Scandinavian language help. Oh and hello to Robert - do you live in Sweden...?! Bn On 4/7/07, missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > I know Lithuanian, some at least, and it ain't Lith, so cant really be > Latvian either...! > BN > > On 4/7/07, Rob Argento wrote: > > After 40 years living in Scandinavia and on the Baltic, I say that it, of > > course isn4t Swedish, Danish or Norwedgian in which I quite familier. > > Finnish is MUCH different and it surely does not LOOK Finnish even if i only > > speak a smattering of phrases. Also, Finnish does not use accent marks very > > extensively. Many double vowels, etc. > > > > "Pilved" DOES funly enough trasnslate in Swedish to "Willow wood" but this > > is only a coincidence. > > > > OK. Now for the answer: I believe it is Estonian, the same language family > > of Finnish - but quite different. COULD be Lithuanian or Latvian - but i am > > not as familier with those. Let4s see what Oddmund says! > > > > Hdlsningar, > > > > /Robban > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > > Bob Muller > > Sent: den 7 april 2007 09:17 > > To: missblux@googlemail.com > > Cc: JMDL; Oddmund Kaarevik > > Subject: Need some Scandinavian language help. > > > > Hi Bene & Oddmund, > > > > I'm wondering if you can help me - I bought an LP on ebay with three Joni > > covers; the seller said they were in French. Now I know that I'm not the > > sharpest knife in the drawer, but I also know that this ain't French. It > > looks like it might be Finnish but my knowledge of Scandinavian languages is > > right up there with Bush's foreign policy skills.. I thought maybe you along > > with other JMDLer's in the vicinity with more knowledge than me could help. > > > > Both Sides Now is called "Pilved" and the first verse goes like this: > > > > "Lund ja und mu silme ees, > > sulgpehmeid losse korgustes > > ja valgeid lambaid sinivees > > nii pilvi nainud ma" > > > > And of course there are lots of accent marks that I can't reproduce here. > > So what do you think? Is that enough to tell? I can send an mp3 if that > > would help. She does Morning Morgantown, Songs to Aging Children Come, and > > BSN. For me, it's quite a rare treasure. > > > > Thanks in advance if you can help me out. Oddmund, it's been great to see > > your name in my mailbox again. > > > > Bob > > > > NP: Bryan Thomas, "cycle" > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to > > friends. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 07:31:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Roxana Amed singing Amelia live This might be the best thing I've seen on YouTube - since we're talking about the beauty of other languages, take 7 minutes out of your day and enjoy this gorgeous live Spanish-language duet of Joni's "Amelia". We have Roxana's studio version in the collection already (she sings it in both English & Spanish on her CD) but this duet with guitarist Pedro Aznar will really move you. I forget who I was talking to at the fest when I commented that I fall in love at least twice a day. I definitely fell in love watching this clip and I'll bet you will too, either with her or him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-SFKsDE5tk Bob, thinking it's time to start the Saturday chores.. NP: Roxana & Pedro, "Amelia" - --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 10:48:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Need some Scandinavian language help.now njc - --- Victor Johnson wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2007, at 9:27 AM, Catherine McKay wrote > > > > LOL! To some (English-speaking) people, anything > that > > is NOT English, is French > > > > > And they're totally missing out. I've been singing > in Italian, > German, and French this semester. Oh, and a bit of > Spanish as I had > to learn that national anthem. Each language has > its own beauty. When I was in charge of the call centre at work, I had put on a CD for the music on hold that included vocals in Spanish. Some people would complain about the "French" music. Sigh. Missing out - that's for sure! Vive la musique! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 10:57:18 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Barbara and Ashara, njc I was particularly taken by your sets. I keep having a replay of them in my mind. So colorful the sound and the sight! I'd love to hear you two sing a set together sometime. Love, Laura ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 10:50:59 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Rosalita came out for Bruce's Tribute njc Favorite shot: From the back of the hall, you see 3 dozen people are lined up across the stage, milling around, waiting for the spoken introduction to end. When Bruce starts "Rosalita", 3 dozen people react as one. Music fans had a good day when Columbia Records gave him a big advance. From small things, mama, big things one day come... etc, etc. Amen, and thanks, Rose. Jim L. >@ Carnegie Hall 4/5/07 The players sure are excited, I dunno know who that guy is on the stage, but boy Bruce can't even get a mic! lmao!!!> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 09:51:45 -0400 From: "Rob Argento" Subject: RE: Need some Scandinavian language help. After 40 years living in Scandinavia and on the Baltic, I say that it, of course isn4t Swedish, Danish or Norwedgian in which I quite familier. Finnish is MUCH different and it surely does not LOOK Finnish even if i only speak a smattering of phrases. Also, Finnish does not use accent marks very extensively. Many double vowels, etc. "Pilved" DOES funly enough trasnslate in Swedish to "Willow wood" but this is only a coincidence. OK. Now for the answer: I believe it is Estonian, the same language family of Finnish - but quite different. COULD be Lithuanian or Latvian - but i am not as familier with those. Let4s see what Oddmund says! Hdlsningar, /Robban - -----Original Message----- From: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: den 7 april 2007 09:17 To: missblux@googlemail.com Cc: JMDL; Oddmund Kaarevik Subject: Need some Scandinavian language help. Hi Bene & Oddmund, I'm wondering if you can help me - I bought an LP on ebay with three Joni covers; the seller said they were in French. Now I know that I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I also know that this ain't French. It looks like it might be Finnish but my knowledge of Scandinavian languages is right up there with Bush's foreign policy skills.. I thought maybe you along with other JMDLer's in the vicinity with more knowledge than me could help. Both Sides Now is called "Pilved" and the first verse goes like this: "Lund ja und mu silme ees, sulgpehmeid losse korgustes ja valgeid lambaid sinivees nii pilvi nainud ma" And of course there are lots of accent marks that I can't reproduce here. So what do you think? Is that enough to tell? I can send an mp3 if that would help. She does Morning Morgantown, Songs to Aging Children Come, and BSN. For me, it's quite a rare treasure. Thanks in advance if you can help me out. Oddmund, it's been great to see your name in my mailbox again. Bob NP: Bryan Thomas, "cycle" - --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:04:37 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC bikini trooper Jerry wrote writes: > I would think she would be more concerned that he was a drunk driver and a > sexual pervert than a cross dresser. > > Jerry > > Bree Mcdonough wrote: > > Also.. local talk radio.. abuzz with this story.. is saying his wife did > > not > > no that he was a cross dresser. I think things will start to add up > > for > > her now. You have to feel for her and their children. > > > > Bree > > > Hi Jerry, Definitely. His crossdressing might bring them closer together. They can share clothes. And, look at what it did for Smurf and Catherine at the fest. Love, Laura ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 16:07:57 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Need some Scandinavian language help. Oh, just realized that I wrote to Bob without cc'eing the list. Damn gmail! The language is Estonian - related to Finnish but looking slightly like Baltic! Ill see if I can provide a translation! Bn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:24:44 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Rosalita came out for Bruce's Tribute njc come to find out , the guy in the light blue western shirt is the lead singer of Hold Steady Here's a detailed review from Stan posted at BTX last night: "Just back from an enjoyable night of music at Carnegie Hall in New York City for the "Music of Bruce Springsteen." Twenty different artists performed Bruce songs, some were very good, others not so good, with the evening culminating with Bruce himself coming onstage to perform an acoustic Promised Land and Rosalita before another rousing version of Rosalita with Bruce leading the way of many of the artists on the evening's bill. The show stared at 8:05 p.m. with DJ Maria Milito of Q104.3 FM in New York City coming out saying "Tonight being honored is one of the greatest performers of all time." Then WFUV DJ Rita Houston did the introductions of each act. Here's what each act performred and some commentary from me on them. 1. Steve Earle performed "Nebraska." Before playing the song he looked out at Carnegie Hall and said "nice joint." 2. Bacon Brothers (including actor Kevin Bacon): "Streets of Philadelphia." Charlie Giordano of the Sessions Band joined them on accordian. Kevin Bacon said, "here's one for our hometown." Nice version, nothing spectacular but not bad. 3. Elysian Fields: "Streets of Fire." The lead vocals were done by a female lead singer whose voice I thought was a little rough for the song. But another friend of mine thought it was great. 4. Josh Ritter: "The River." Josh, who looked absolutely thrilled said it was a special night for him be be there. He had the tape of Bruce's album "Live 1975-85" and a lot of the songs were about things changing before you're ready for them to change. "I want to thank Bruce Springsteen for giving me that realization at that point of my life because it was real important." Nicely done by Josh. 5. Patti Smith: "Because The Night." Patti was accompanied by her bass player who played the piano. She received a standing ovation from the Carnegie Hall crowd. "In 1978, a Jersey boy gave me a song of his, this song, and it has followed me through the days..... It has come to me like a helping hand when I've need it and it all comes back to Bruce Springsteen," Patti said. "This Jersey Girl thanks that Jersey Boy." Patti even spit on the Carnegie Hall stage! One of the highlights of the evening. Really great. 6. Marah: "The Rising." They had a guy playing bagpipes and a woman on accordian. Well done. I liked this version. 7. The Holmes Brothers w/ Young People's Chrous: "My City of Ruins." One of the highlights of the evening for me. About 35 youngsters doing the backup singing was really special and the kids were very much into it. They all raised their hands on the "With these hands part." This will be nice to hear when a bootleg comes out of the show. And the sound on the bootleg should be spectacular because the Carnegie Hall acoustics are incredible. 8. Robin Holcomb: "Brilliant Disguise." I thought this was bad. She played the song solo on the piano and it sounded like she was trying to play the song as part of a Broadway musical. Talked to some others who didn't like it either. Just seemed off key or not right. 9. Jersey Guys w/ Bobby Valli: "Jersey Girl" Surprised they picked this song because it's not a Bruce Springsteen song. Really didn't work well either. Was done in a Doo-op style and they screwed up the lyrics a couple of times. Not real good. 10. North Mississippi All Stars: "Spirit In the Night" Just OK, not bad, not great. 11. Uri Cane: New York City Serenade. One of the highlights of the evening for me. Uri played this solo, on the piano, with no singing. It just was spectacular and really showed you how beautiful Bruce's music can be. Perfect with the acoustics in Carnegie Hall. Very well done. 12. Juliana Hatfield: "Cover Me." Ok, nothing spectacular. 13. Low Stars: "One Step Up." Very nicely done by this group. The vocals were strong and one of the better performances of the night. 14. Badly Drawn Boy: "Thunder Road" You could tell he was thrilled to be there to be on a bill saluting Bruce Springsteen. Nice version of Thunder Road and it was great to see his enthusiasm. 15. Joseph Arthur: "Born In the USA" He said, "I'd like to send this out to the troops before playing it." Not bad. 16. Pete Yorn: "Dancing In the Dark." Another highlight. Pete talked about seeing Bruce on MTV and saying to Courtney Cox, "let's dance." He played the song acoustically and said that was the best way to play the song. Very well done. 17. Jesse Malin & Ronnie Spector: "Hungry Heart" A major disappointment. Just not a good duo. Ronnie Spector seemed totally out of it and they both screwed up the words more than once. Jesse dedicated the song to Joey Ramone. Jesse would have been better off doing a song by himself or doing "Janey Don't You Lose Heart" which I've seen him perform very well in concert. Saw Kevin Buell setting up a guitar on the side of the stage 18. M. Ward: "I'm Goin' Down." Not good at all. Didn't seen to be on the same beat with his drummer. And his vocals were pretty bad too. Some Brooocing started to be heard from the crowd 19. Odetta: "57 Channels and Nothing On" She was in a wheel chair. This was really good. A very unique version of doing the song. Sort of a "spoken verse." She was backed up by a piano player. Will be nice to hear when a bootleg comes out of the show. 20. The Hold Steady: "Atlantic City." Wow! This was really good. I've read about this band and I can see why they have received so much positive press. Very upbeat. The lead singer, Craig Finn, was so into it. It was now about 10:08 p.m. and word had gotten out that Bruce was there and he was going to play two songs "Promised Land" and "Rosalita" so it wasn't a surprise to many when the announcer said "It I was a genie in a bottle and could grant you one wish, what would it be? How bout Bruce Springsteen!" And Bruce came onstage to a standing ovation. "The good news is I'm still alive!" he said. "It's like I'm invisible and floating high above the room and hearing all these people talking about you. It's like a funeral. "Thank you to all the artist for showning up." He said he liked the version of "57 Channels" Odetta did. he talked about meeting her when he was 23 at Max's Kanas City. Bruce was wearing a black sport jacket and blue jeans. He did an acoustic version of "Promised Land" which was a little bit different from the way he had been doing it at the end of the "Devils & Dust" shows. Bruce then played an acoustic version of "Rosalita." Toward the latter part of the song he stopped playing and said: (thank you to olshep who transcribed this funny rap much better than I did) "Well, it's getting late, unfortunately. And this song is really long. Man, I wrote a lot of lyrics back then! Anyway, you don't really want to hear the rest of the story. You know the damn story already. Rosie rode off with our hero . . . they got married . . . and they lived pretty much happily ever after, more or less . . . despite what you might read in one or two tabloid stories. Our hero got himself a band . . . Made a fortune and became a star and made a whole lot of people happy with his songs. . . and then he started to get sort of happy himself. So he broke up the band, and started writing a bunch of songs about being happy. And no one liked them. So he got the band back together. He wrote some new songs. These ones were about being sad. Everyone loved them. And the years went by. Our hero put on a few pounds. His hair started to get some grey in it - at least when he wasn't touching it up. The United States turned into a kingdom. The whole damn planet got so pissed off about the whole thing that it just started getting hotter and hotter. Some babies came. And then they turned into children. And then they turned into...something else. And our hero came one night to the biggest city in the world. And he found himself onstage at the fanciest music house in the whole world. I know you're thinking this story is bullshit. I know it doesn't really happen like that . But tonight, I'm telling you, it's all true. So we might as well just cut to the chase already!" This will make you laugh when you hear it on a bootleg. The evening then finished with all the remaining musicians coming back onstage to do another version of "Rosalita" One of the band members brought a baby onstage and Bruce was concerned about the baby having headphones or ear plugs so the music wouldn't hurt him or her. Bruce asked if there were any volunteers among those onstage who wanted to step up and do a verse. Craig Finn, the lead singer of the Hold Steady got right up there and he was thrilled to be singing next to Bruce Springsteen. Badly Drawn Boy, who actually gave Bruce a little kiss on the cheek, also stepped right up to do a verse of Rosalita. I'm sure he wasn't going to pass up the chance of a lifetime. Jesse Malin also did some lines and Steve Earle came right up front toward the end. It was disorganized at times but the finale was a lot of fun. The show was over at 10:35 p.m. A nice night at Carnegie Hall. The acoustics are spectacular. And a fine evening topped off with a performance by Bruce himself. I saw Bruce's mother and two aunts walking in the hallway before the show. Thank you for reading. Stan" ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 17:42:52 +0200 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: NJC Re: Need some Scandinavian language help. I'm forwarding your question on to a finnish friend and I've asked if she can read it. It can be either finnish or maby esthonian?? I know those two languages have a lot in common - but I can not read any of them. Good to be back on track. :-) And I'm also shocked that Susanne Sundfxr can be that great at the age of 21. I'm sure she would be brilliant covering Joni. I can already hear do "Jericho" or maybe she'll surprise us with something completely different ? oddmund On 4/7/07, missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > > I know Lithuanian, some at least, and it ain't Lith, so cant really be > Latvian either...! > BN > > On 4/7/07, Rob Argento wrote: > > After 40 years living in Scandinavia and on the Baltic, I say that it, > of > > course isn4t Swedish, Danish or Norwedgian in which I quite familier. > > Finnish is MUCH different and it surely does not LOOK Finnish even if i > only > > speak a smattering of phrases. Also, Finnish does not use accent marks > very > > extensively. Many double vowels, etc. > > > > "Pilved" DOES funly enough trasnslate in Swedish to "Willow wood" but > this > > is only a coincidence. > > > > OK. Now for the answer: I believe it is Estonian, the same language > family > > of Finnish - but quite different. COULD be Lithuanian or Latvian - but i > am > > not as familier with those. Let4s see what Oddmund says! > > > > Hdlsningar, > > > > /Robban > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of > > Bob Muller > > Sent: den 7 april 2007 09:17 > > To: missblux@googlemail.com > > Cc: JMDL; Oddmund Kaarevik > > Subject: Need some Scandinavian language help. > > > > Hi Bene & Oddmund, > > > > I'm wondering if you can help me - I bought an LP on ebay with three > Joni > > covers; the seller said they were in French. Now I know that I'm not the > > sharpest knife in the drawer, but I also know that this ain't French. It > > looks like it might be Finnish but my knowledge of Scandinavian > languages is > > right up there with Bush's foreign policy skills.. I thought maybe you > along > > with other JMDLer's in the vicinity with more knowledge than me could > help. > > > > Both Sides Now is called "Pilved" and the first verse goes like this: > > > > "Lund ja und mu silme ees, > > sulgpehmeid losse korgustes > > ja valgeid lambaid sinivees > > nii pilvi nainud ma" > > > > And of course there are lots of accent marks that I can't reproduce > here. > > So what do you think? Is that enough to tell? I can send an mp3 if that > > would help. She does Morning Morgantown, Songs to Aging Children Come, > and > > BSN. For me, it's quite a rare treasure. > > > > Thanks in advance if you can help me out. Oddmund, it's been great to > see > > your name in my mailbox again. > > > > Bob > > > > NP: Bryan Thomas, "cycle" > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to > > friends. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 16:55:58 +0100 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: Roxana Amed singing Amelia live On 7 Apr 2007, at 15:31, Bob Muller wrote: > This might be the best thing I've seen on YouTube - since we're > talking about the beauty of other languages, take 7 minutes out of > your day and enjoy this gorgeous live Spanish-language duet of > Joni's "Amelia". We have Roxana's studio version in the collection > already (she sings it in both English & Spanish on her CD) but this > duet with guitarist Pedro Aznar will really move you. That's quite the find. I'm surprised at how well Joni's phrasing survives in another language: most covers monkey around with that, and it's interesting to find that while the language is different, this one still flows as expected. Irritatingly, this Pedro dude is not only a good looking bastard, but a killer bass player too:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBpLTOW64mc - --Chris Marshall chrisAThatstand.org (AIM: Chr15Marshall) "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" Band website, with downloads, at http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:37:40 -0700 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Joni=27s=20taste=20in=20books?= for "be here now", I WAS THE PCTURES. since this thread started i've been wondering what books are inspiring the youngsters. any cult classics i need to read? cassie you must be right around my age- 53. we have the same frame of reference! - ---------- Original Message ------------- Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 20:59:18 -0700 From: "Cassy" To: "JMDL" Subject: Re: Joni's taste in books >From: "LESLI A WATTS" > ><<< Do people my age remember when we'd all walk around with siddartha and >Steppenwolf tucked under our arms? >>> > >Absolutely and also "Be Here Now" by Ram Dass. The acid-tripping journey of >a Harvard Psychiatrist traipsing around India to delve into Hindu religion . >I liked looking at the pictures too! > >Warmly, >Cassy > >NP: The Tubes - Attack of the 50 Foot Woman ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:56:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Need some Scandinavian language help. I've sent it to a student of mine who is Lithuanian. He may be able to translate it. Jerry Bob Muller wrote: > Hi Bene & Oddmund, > > I'm wondering if you can help me - I bought an LP on ebay with three > Joni covers; the seller said they were in French. Now I know that I'm > not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I also know that this ain't > French. It looks like it might be Finnish but my knowledge of > Scandinavian languages is right up there with Bush's foreign policy > skills.. I thought maybe you along with other JMDLer's in the vicinity > with more knowledge than me could help. > > Both Sides Now is called "Pilved" and the first verse goes like this: > > "Lund ja und mu silme ees, > sulgpehmeid losse korgustes > ja valgeid lambaid sinivees > nii pilvi nainud ma" > > And of course there are lots of accent marks that I can't reproduce > here. So what do you think? Is that enough to tell? I can send an mp3 if > that would help. She does Morning Morgantown, Songs to Aging Children > Come, and BSN. For me, it's quite a rare treasure. > > Thanks in advance if you can help me out. Oddmund, it's been great to > see your name in my mailbox again. > > Bob > > NP: Bryan Thomas, "cycle" > > > > > --------------------------------- > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and > always stay connected to friends. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 09:18:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Re: Roxana Amed singing Amelia live So maybe the two of you should start a club? There has to be more than two! Bob NP: Kyle Eastwood, "I Beg Your Pardon" - --------------------------------- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 12:50:48 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: My Eternal Gratitude I'm glad you had a wonderful time, Jill. I forgot to ask you how you were feeling when we were at Jonifest with your broken rib and all. You seemed to be pretty "up" the weekend so I'm glad you didn't let it get you down! It was a pleasure to meet you and I really enjoyed our conversation at dinner the one night. Good for you for coming and making it! And next year, definitely play a set and make sure you incorporate the dulcimer into your set! Thanks for the dulcimer pamphlet. It's such a beautiful instrument. - -Monika P.S. I loved how at ease you were with adding on harmonies in the song circle and really getting into it. P.S.S. In my Jonifest pictures, I have a pic of you where you look like you're up to no good! NP: Hunter- Joni ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 12:53:30 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: NJC bikini trooper Obviously he wanted to be noticed. But kids..Jerry....I mean.. think what they have to face at school. With kids it is all about being "normal" ..fitting in..being accepted. His public display has made that very difficult. Bree >I would think she would be more concerned that he was a drunk driver and a >sexual pervert than a cross dresser. > >Jerry > >Bree Mcdonough wrote: > > Also.. local talk radio.. abuzz with this story.. is saying his wife did > > not > > (no) know* that he was a cross dresser. I think things will start to >add up > > for > > her now. You have to feel for her and their children. > > > > Bree > > > > > > :> > >>Plus he was allegedly exposing himself to other people in the park. For > >>lots more pictures and the arrest documents, check out the writeup on >The > >>Smoking Gun: > >> > >>http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0405071drag1.html > >> > >>The lesson in all of this - DON'T drink & crossdress! > >> > >>Bob > >> > >>NP: Joni, "Woman of Heart & Mind" 8.22.74 > >> > >>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>The information transmitted is intended only for the person > >>or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > >>business-confidential and/or privileged material. > >>If you are not the intended recipient of this message you > >>are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, > >>dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken > >>in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received > >>this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > >>material from any computer. 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LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: Mags wrote: Well, we could think Saskatoon, Hi Mags, This is my dream... summer 2008? Love, Laura ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. - --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 13:14:59 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Joni and John Lennon Ok, I had read (in the Shadows and Light book) that Joni had met John Lennon and he asked her why she let other people have her hits? And his humorous advice to her in getting hits, was "put some fiddles on it." I find that very funny (but then Court & Spark came out and she did find some commercial success on her own minus fiddles, hehe). Anyway, does anyone know if Joni ever ran into John Lennon again? And even more so, what do you think Joni said to John's comment? What can you say? Haha. I wonder though. - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 13:13:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Need some Scandinavian language help. It's not Lithuanian, but he is working on it. Gerald A. Notaro wrote: > I've sent it to a student of mine who is Lithuanian. He may be able to > translate it. > > Jerry > > Bob Muller wrote: >> Hi Bene & Oddmund, >> >> I'm wondering if you can help me - I bought an LP on ebay with three >> Joni covers; the seller said they were in French. Now I know that I'm >> not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I also know that this ain't >> French. It looks like it might be Finnish but my knowledge of >> Scandinavian languages is right up there with Bush's foreign policy >> skills.. I thought maybe you along with other JMDLer's in the vicinity >> with more knowledge than me could help. >> >> Both Sides Now is called "Pilved" and the first verse goes like this: >> >> "Lund ja und mu silme ees, >> sulgpehmeid losse korgustes >> ja valgeid lambaid sinivees >> nii pilvi nainud ma" >> >> And of course there are lots of accent marks that I can't reproduce >> here. So what do you think? Is that enough to tell? I can send an mp3 if >> that would help. She does Morning Morgantown, Songs to Aging Children >> Come, and BSN. For me, it's quite a rare treasure. >> >> Thanks in advance if you can help me out. Oddmund, it's been great to >> see your name in my mailbox again. >> >> Bob >> >> NP: Bryan Thomas, "cycle" >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and >> always stay connected to friends. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #144 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------