From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #140 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, April 5 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 140 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: That Post...Pt. 2 [FMYFL@aol.com] NJC a tribute to the festreporters [missblux@googlemail.com] Joni & Bonnie Trees ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: Joni & Bonnie Trees [Michael Paz ] Re: Joni's Rare Recordings [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Jonifest next year [Motitan@aol.com] Re: NJC a tribute to the festreporters [Bob Muller ] RE: Coyote's in the coffee shop! ["Richard Flynn" ] Jonifest video [Kate Johnson ] RE: That Post...Pt. 2 - the cute guy with the dreadlocks - njc ["patrick] Re: njc, Coyote's in the coffee shop! -> Jonifest Dreams -> Josh Ritter [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:38:04 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: That Post...Pt. 2 Bob writes : > Plus, since it was > in the performance space they had the bar open and one of the GORGEOUS > Full Moon bartenders was keeping my mighty mighty thirst quenched with > some tasty cold beverages. > Oh, is that cute guy with the dread locks still bartending? I forget his name, but I know Ashara remembers. Just kidding Mr. Muller. I sure have enjoying reading all the Jonifest reports and looking at some of the few photos that have been posted. I sure missed being at Jonifest this year, but it brought back some great memories. I'm glad everyone had such a good time, and I'm looking forward to Chris Marshall opening the Hatstand gallery for lots & lots of photos. Jimmy.........wishing Paz a belated Happy Birthday ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 23:45:49 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC a tribute to the festreporters Hello amigos and amigas I want to tell you that I am a reformed woman these days. The past few years I have wasted a lot of time being indecisive and fairly disoriented. But these things are more and more in the past, and reading the reports from Jonifest is an inspiration. From now on I am going to be organized! And not miss next year's Jonifest! I will write a song for you all and sing it! And that's how it is going to be! Honestly, Bene (no not the old one: reformed...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 00:29:16 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Joni & Bonnie Trees Hi A couple of TREE suggestions to help in the after-Fest blues: Currently on dime a dozen: Joni & James Taylor: Royal Albert Hall 10/28/70. I haven't listened to it yet, but I can tell you it has crystal clear sound You probably all have it, but this is partially an excuse to talk about Bonnie in a Joni-content post, LOL. I know there are quite a few Bonnie fans on the List. I myself have been a fan since I saw her doing afternoon shows at Universal Studios back in 75. Saw her a dozen times through the 80's and own over 30 bootlegs of hers. Not that it makes me an expert, just a big fan. I recently listened to 2 Bonnie shows that I consider outstanding and worth Tree-ing: Bonnie Raitt duo w/ her guitarist J L Schell : Ft Collins, CO 2/8/89 (from dimeadozen). This performance is after she recorded Nick of Time and probably before it got released, at any rate before she got a Grammy for it, which finally boosted her career. The feelings are very strange. I haven't quite defined it. Some mixture of despair, resignation, hope, I don't know but I think particularly on this show her emotional level is such that she borders on genius at times. I'll define genius as Joni-level for the sake of this post. In fact there is a cover of Song About the Midway followed by several comments such as "I'll gladly stop selling records if that makes Joni sell more" or something to that effect. Then at some point she gets angry at some folks for talking right in front of her, reminds you of Joni doesn't it? Well, 20 years is a long time to pay one's dues. I'm glad Bonnie made it but I have never felt this much emotion in her music after 89. Which again proves that starvation brings genius. Bonnie: Philly Folk Blues Festival 70-72 is another incredible set of performances which I traded with a Japanese fan, full of hope, kind of "sweet bird of youth" if you want but very musically mature. I'll be happy to send any or all of the above to the 1st lister who requests them, and can reoffer to the List. The 89 show fits on 1 cd 90 minutes. I could put it on 2 cds but I'd rather not, which means you will have to purchase a 90' cd to copy it. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:57:52 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni & Bonnie Trees This is so funny. I just emailed a friend in SF who is Jon Cleary's manager to ask if he could get Bonnie to donate a guitar (signed) or some other artwork or memorabilia for us to auction on May 3 during Jazz Fest for the Renew Our Music Fund (see www.nomhrf.org for more history on what we do). We have several Herman Leonard original fotos and Annie Leibovitz as well as a signed one of a kind Gibson Les Paul signed by The Edge from U2 to auction off on May 3 between the jazz fest weekends. I will be posting on the details of this very cool initiative to raise money for Renew Our Music. Bonnie and my pal Dennis Quaid have already done so much for us here in N.O. but I thought it would be a great idea to have something from her on this auction. Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com On Apr 4, 2007, at 5:29 PM, Laurent Olszer wrote: Hi A couple of TREE suggestions to help in the after-Fest blues: Currently on dime a dozen: Joni & James Taylor: Royal Albert Hall 10/28/70. I haven't listened to it yet, but I can tell you it has crystal clear sound You probably all have it, but this is partially an excuse to talk about Bonnie in a Joni-content post, LOL. I know there are quite a few Bonnie fans on the List. I myself have been a fan since I saw her doing afternoon shows at Universal Studios back in 75. Saw her a dozen times through the 80's and own over 30 bootlegs of hers. Not that it makes me an expert, just a big fan. I recently listened to 2 Bonnie shows that I consider outstanding and worth Tree-ing: Bonnie Raitt duo w/ her guitarist J L Schell : Ft Collins, CO 2/8/89 (from dimeadozen). This performance is after she recorded Nick of Time and probably before it got released, at any rate before she got a Grammy for it, which finally boosted her career. The feelings are very strange. I haven't quite defined it. Some mixture of despair, resignation, hope, I don't know but I think particularly on this show her emotional level is such that she borders on genius at times. I'll define genius as Joni-level for the sake of this post. In fact there is a cover of Song About the Midway followed by several comments such as "I'll gladly stop selling records if that makes Joni sell more" or something to that effect. Then at some point she gets angry at some folks for talking right in front of her, reminds you of Joni doesn't it? Well, 20 years is a long time to pay one's dues. I'm glad Bonnie made it but I have never felt this much emotion in her music after 89. Which again proves that starvation brings genius. Bonnie: Philly Folk Blues Festival 70-72 is another incredible set of performances which I traded with a Japanese fan, full of hope, kind of "sweet bird of youth" if you want but very musically mature. I'll be happy to send any or all of the above to the 1st lister who requests them, and can reoffer to the List. The 89 show fits on 1 cd 90 minutes. I could put it on 2 cds but I'd rather not, which means you will have to purchase a 90' cd to copy it. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:16:27 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Joni's Rare Recordings Just one? There were ten of them. Thank you, Catherine for your kind words. I would love to do this for a living. Unfortunately, I am a Nurse. I find it is a good balance. There's not much room in Nursing for artistic expression. If they do release a retrospective box, it probably won't happen for some time since there is a new album being released soon. From a marketing point of view. I tried to make these covers appropriate to the recordings. Although the Photoshop effects and filters are modern, the photographs used were either from the actual performance or from the same year. I also included an acknowledgement to Jamia Zubairi as caretaker of Joni's art for an early sketch that I included on one of them. My favourite is an early photograph of Joni and Chuck performing at the Chess Mate. It was a very bad quality photograph so, I created brick wall and put the photo behind a window to give the illusion that you are standing outside the Chess Mate, looking through the window at them performing. There is even an original promotional poster for the Chess Mate, advertising their performance. It has been a lot of fun designing these covers and I am so grateful to Joey McGowan for this rare opportunity. Mark in Sydney NP Riverbed Dry - Everything But The Girl On 04/04/2007, at 10:41 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > > --- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > >> Hello Joni friends. >> >> Well, the cat's out of the bag. Many of you got to >> hear some very rare >> Joni recordings at the Jonifest. I have been sitting >> on this secret for >> almost a year now. I hate keeping secrets so, it's >> been a pain not to >> be able to talk about this stuff but, I gave my word >> and that's always >> important to me. >> >> In June last year, Joey McGowan wrote to me to ask >> me to design some CD >> covers for some recording that he had in his >> collection. He said these >> recordings had never been heard by anyone before, >> possibly not even >> Joni. >> > ... > >> >> Joey's intention was to make up CDs and distribute >> them to JMDL >> members. Two CDs went out to a couple of people but >> he was immediately >> contacted by Joni's management and asked to stop. >> They are deciding if >> they want to put together a retrospective box and >> include these >> recordings. >> > > Thanks for that, Mark. In addition to being able to > hear these early and > never-before-released-even-among-bootleg-trading-freaks, > we did pass around the cover you had designed - done > once again with your classy style. If you're not > already doing this sort of thing for a living, I > really think you should. > > And I really hope Joni DOES put all this stuff > together and release it. > > Anyone who has have heard Joni live concerts and > various boots will not believe how different some of > this stuff is. The recordings with the Siegel-Schwall > band sounded like they were meant to turn Joni into a > pop princess. Very 60s sounding and her voice was > quite different than the one that ended up on STAS and > Clouds. She sounded very similar to Judy Collins. > > There were also some recordings of songs that none of > us (at least I don't think any of us) has ever heard > sung by Joni before, including "Strawflower me" (and I > think there was at least one other.) > > I'm not sure what I make of Chuck's claims and am not > sure if it's appropriate to discuss it in writing. I > think it comes down to a he-said/she-said sort of > thing and what happens when the mists of time and what > you want to believe change what really happened into a > memory of what you think happened. > > Too bad we couldn't all get together in person and > discuss! > > > > > Catherine > Toronto > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 20:55:50 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Jonifest next year I am in the process of getting my pictures developed from this year's fest. I will post them for the attendees and non-attendees on my My Space page (providing a link once again). However, next year I want to step it up. I got this idea driving home this year. Next Jonifest, I am going to bring my video camcorder and tape a part of the festivities. I will then edit it down and make a Jonifest-umentary! I'll try to make it funny with captions or more serious with Joni music playing at appropriate times. I won't record any performances or anything all the way through but I'll get clips of things here and there and piece it together. Maybe I'll have a set of questions to ask everyone and so forth. What do you think? - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:13:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC a tribute to the festreporters Sounds great, Bene - I'll hold you to it. Bob NP: JT, "Let Me Ride" (one of the few JT's we didn't sing during Song Circle) - --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 21:00:27 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Coyote's in the coffee shop! Patti's Joni OCD reminded me that I had something for the list. I know there has been much speculation in the past about the identity of Coyote, biographically speaking. While you were all at Jonifest, I was traveling all that week: first to Minneapolis, where I gave a paper at the Bob Dylan Symposium, and then to Nashville, where I gave a paper at the Modern Critical Approaches to Children's Literature conference in Nashville and got to see a great Lucinda Williams show at the Ryman. In any event, at the Dylan conference I was chatting with the poet Anne Waldman who was on the Rolling Thunder tour. She was extolling the virtues of Joni Mitchell. And she mentioned "Coyote" as a great favorite. I said to her that Joni wrote that song on the tour and asked if it was about Sam Shepard (a good friend of Waldman's) and she said, "Definitely." I told her I was going to tell this list and she said that was ok. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Patti Parlette Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:43 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: njc, Coyote's in the coffee shop! Dear Joniamigos: Won't you please come to Chicago -- Coyote's in the coffee shop! "CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- For one day, at least, the roadrunner was safe. It seems the coyote was hankering for another kind of fast food. Employees and customers at a downtown Chicago Quiznos sandwich shop were stunned to see a coyote walk through the propped-open front door Tuesday afternoon and lie down in a cooler stocked with fruit juice and soda." You can read a bit more and see the one-minute video here: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/04/chicago.coyote.ap/index.html Poor little guy. He looks so scared! He's too far from the Bay of Fundy From appaloosas and eagles and tides And the air conditioned cubicles And the carbon ribbon rides Are spelling it out so clear Either he's going to have to stand and fight Or take off out of here Love & Peace, Patti P., relishing *all* of your Fest tales and stories and impressions and emotions and abstractions -- wunderbar! Applause, applause! _________________________________________________________________ MSN is giving away a trip to Vegas to see Elton John. Enter to win today. http://msnconcertcontest.com?icid-nceltontagline ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:50:09 -0400 From: passscribe@aol.com Subject: Reflections on JoniFest Hi, gang, Although I'm at my cousin's place in Port Orange, Florida, I had to hack into his computer to see what's been posted lately. Hate to miss anything after being on such an emotional high with such great people for several days. First of all, to Catherine: I believe any JoniFest post certainly should be taken as having Joni Content as the fest wouldn't have happened if Joni had not been who she is/was. In addition, it's really all about Joni, even though there may be some non-Joni songs presented from time to time. So, now it's my turn to click on my email from a strange computer (a -GASP!- PC... egads! I'm a Mac person) and check out what happened on Sunday... so sorry I had to leave early that morning and miss the performances that night. Glad to hear that new-to-LMDL Monika performed and, even more important, enjoyed her experience at the fest... it is magic, isn't it? I remember, after attending my first fest (in 2003), going home and telling everybody I talked to about the weekend (as Monika did) and getting the same reaction ("Okay, Ken... it was great... we get it"). Also happy to hear that Steve (from San Francisco) found his first fest visit to be a memorable event. It's the kind of thing we need to keep us all going for a while, Kenny B (Okay... how do I send this thing now...... ? Ah, there it is.....) ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 22:11:01 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Jonifest Thoughts i'm going to post a fuller report later, but i have to say that i had a wonderful conversation with jerry on saturday (at dinner i believe) and, as often happens, made a new friend. i'm going to be down in philly i a month or so, (jerry, i'll send you the info later) and hope to meet up. it's still astonishing to me, after nine or so years, how many remarkable people i've met and shared great experiences with because of this list. and joni! patrick np - Zehra Bilir, Sen Bu Yaylalari (on kcrwmusic.com) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of gpkm6208@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:32 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Joinfest Thoughts I wanted to have an opportunity to thank everyone for contributing to my fabulous time at the Jonifest. I hope some of you will remember me. I do not believe I contributed anything remarkable. I am not a musician, a singer or (maybe most importantly) as well versed as many/most of you are in music, especially that of Joni. I found out about the fest via the Joni web site and decided quite a few months back that I have been a Joni fan for too long to not go to an event that would have people with similar interests in her. I drove to the Full Moon from Philadelphia. I arrived sometime after 9 PM on Friday evening. I was very uncomfortable as I knew no one and I am not the best at socializing in a group of unfamiliar people. When I walked into the lounge/stage area I was immediately greeted and made to feel very welcome. I was more and more at ease as the fest progressed. I was very impressed with the extent of the talent and really enjoyed the "circle" sing along. M! y best times, however, were the times I spent talking to people individually or in small groups about their personal Joni experiences. Although I met many great people I am an absolute looser when it comes to remembering names so I will not bother everyone with trying to name individuals (except Ashara) I will just thank everyone for their individual contribution and all for their collective contribution. Ashara, I have been seeing your name since I originally decided to attend the fest. It was great to meet you and put "a face to the name". It was a great pleasure to finally meet you and I wanted to personally thank you for the time and effort you put into making this event so memorable. Peace to all, Gerry Kent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:45:56 -0500 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Jonifest video > I'll get clips of things here and there and piece it > together. Maybe I'll have a set of questions to ask everyone and > so forth. > What do you think? > - -Monika I think it's a damn good idea. You should do it, and send a copy to Joni! One of these years I'm going to get to a Jonifest myself. Oh yeah. Kate of the North http://xoetc.antville.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 00:21:38 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: That Post...Pt. 2 - the cute guy with the dreadlocks - njc the cute guy with the dreadlocks ("henry", actually) didn't bartend, but he was around, as he's one of the owners, so he was meeting with wedding-planning couples all weekend it seemed. he has two young daughters and a wife; they're all lovely. he looks better than ever, incredibly long dreads but he dresses preppy, still very thin and a face that would not look out of place on an abercrombie and fitch model. patrick np - silence - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of FMYFL@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 5:38 PM To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: That Post...Pt. 2 Bob writes : > Plus, since it was > in the performance space they had the bar open and one of the GORGEOUS > Full Moon bartenders was keeping my mighty mighty thirst quenched with > some tasty cold beverages. > Oh, is that cute guy with the dread locks still bartending? I forget his name, but I know Ashara remembers. Just kidding Mr. Muller. I sure have enjoying reading all the Jonifest reports and looking at some of the few photos that have been posted. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 23:53:02 -0600 From: Bruce Eggleston Subject: Re: njc, Coyote's in the coffee shop! -> Jonifest Dreams -> Josh Ritter Not apropos of any thing outside of synchronocity, but as I read that Coyote tale below I was listening to our pack/den of them out on the north 40. They are not particularly welcome, but that is nothing new for Mr. Coyote. They are giving our ducks the hungry eye as I type. Every now and then they lift their leg on our doors and leave their prankster marks. Bonneville Bruce P.S. Jonifest Dreams Dear Jonifestistas, I so longingly wish that I could have attended this sacred event. I believe that gatherings of this nature are the only things that keep the planet from warping and bursting through the christ-consciousness grid that holds it together. And I'm not talking about religion here, I'm talking about real spiritual work to preserve what is of value on this third stone from the sun. It is a big pile of good karma in the gia karma bank. Thank you all for keeping the faith and tipping the balance of karma a few significant notches toward the life-force direction for a few days. If things go well, I will make it to the next one, so don't be late! Bonneville Bruce Howling on the Sunnyslope, Idaho. npimh: Josh Ritter's "Idaho" from "The Animal Years"; Please, folks, give Josh Ritter a listen, he is the future of good song writing IMHO. B.B. > Subject: njc, Coyote's in the coffee shop! > > Dear Joniamigos: > > Won't you please come to Chicago -- Coyote's in the coffee shop! > > "CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- For one day, at least, the roadrunner > was safe. > It seems the coyote was hankering for another kind of fast food. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #140 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------