From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #116 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, March 16 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 116 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- new york shopping NJC ["mike pritchard" ] RE: new york shopping NJC ["Ross, Les" ] Re: Books NJC [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: New Joni Mitchell songs are to be aired exclusively on BBC Radio 2 [M] Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: new york shopping NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: J rejects feminism (njc) [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Books NJC [Deb Messling ] Books and other obsessions NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: J rejects feminism (njc) [Deb Messling ] Re: Books NJC ["Azeem Ali Khan" ] Song to a Seagull Remastered [Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com] Is Steely Dan rock? NJC [Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com] RE: New York shopping NJC ["mike pritchard" ] RE : Re: Books NJC [Joseph Palis ] Re: new york shopping NJC ["Randy Remote" ] Re: RE : Re: Books NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: buddist? [Michael Flaherty ] RE: Sherelle and Kurt Elling and Bob Sheppard (Joni moments) ["Sherelle S] Re: Sherelle and Kurt Elling and Bob Sheppard (Joni moments) ["Sherelle S] Re: Fwd: Don Alias "Remembrance" ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: Sherelle and Kurt Elling and Bob Sheppard (Joni moments) ["Sherelle S] Re: Sherelle (njc) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Song to a Seagull Remastered ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Betty Hutton RIP (NJC) ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: Joni and Feminism, Paz report, Jonifest (now njc) ["Sherelle Smith" <] Re: buddist? -- njc [Smurf ] Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered [Victor Johnson ] Re: buddist? -- njc [Motitan@aol.com] Re: buddist? [Bob Muller ] Re: Betty Hutton RIP (NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:26:01 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: new york shopping NJC I'm thinking of buying an I-pod when I'm in New York later this month (given the strength of the euro (?) against the dollar). Any ideas about where I should shop to get the best deal? mike in bcn np tom waits - orphans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:39:47 -0000 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: RE: new york shopping NJC Hi mike, how are you? Listen, I went over to texas last month and thought to raid the Apple store for goodies. I found that the dollar weakness didn't effect much in the way of savings. Even in non-apple stores I found the prices not noticeably cheaper. Are you shopping NYC before or after 'fest? I'm flying into Boston and returning from NYC on the wednesday. Shopping is likely to figure somewhere in the spaces before and after 'fest. LOL. There are a couple of places I visited for electrical goods the last time I was in NYC but rather uselessly I can't remember the names though I could take you there if we were standing on 5th avenue right now. There's a thought for you to take to breakfast this morning in sunny barcelona. Les (london) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of mike pritchard Sent: 16 March 2007 08:26 To: list Subject: new york shopping NJC I'm thinking of buying an I-pod when I'm in New York later this month (given the strength of the euro (?) against the dollar). Any ideas about where I should shop to get the best deal? mike in bcn np tom waits - orphans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:24:26 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Books NJC Well I see some similarities between you and your sister too, Bob...! Bn Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:34:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Books NJC Ummmm...are we related? MY sister has an entire Stephen King ROOM, with everything he has written, including lots of signed first editions, and of course all the books he wrote with Peter Straub and/or co-wrote under a pseudonym. (The dude has written a LOT of books). I don't read as many books as I should...I read Atlantic Monthly, Rolling Stone, Wired, Newsweek, Vanity Fair & several bloggers. I'm lucky if I read two/three novels a year. Although I always read Carl Hiaasen's books. Bob NP: Soundgarden, "Applebite" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:24:04 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: New Joni Mitchell songs are to be aired exclusively on BBC Radio 2 Thank you so much, Les, for alerting us to this extraordinary event. It's only fair that us hard core fans should get a preview to the upcoming album. I will attempt to record this documentary, using Wire Tap which, records in AAC and then I will convert to mp3 with iTunes. That is, depending on the time. I think there is about 12 hours difference between Sydney and London so, it should air at around 8.30am Sunday morning. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:36:16 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered Wow! Dave, what a talent you have for sound engineering. I am hearing this album again for the first time. It is crystal clear. Joni's voice sounds so raw. Just beautiful. Thank you. Mark in Sydney NP I Had a King (Remastered) - JM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:19:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Books NJC I've been reading music/history books. Just finished one on Dylan/Baez and Mimi & Richard Farina. Also a Laura Nyro bio. Am reading Bego's Joni book now. That Laurel Canyon book - I read it. Had started one on Bert Jansch and the scene in GB back in the early folk days, but I put it aside - need to finish it. Also a couple of dog behavior books, but I find them hard to get through. Read Phillip Roth's "American Pastoral" recently. Trying to read more, sit in the living room and watch junk TV less. Need more books, but they have to be just right or my brain won't latch onto them, and lord knows I really don't have any sense of discipline that keeps me reading them. They're either engaging or they're not. Kinda like music. Its like my brain is an egg, and the books out there are like sperm. Out of every several thousand that come at me (pun not intended), maybe one will *catch*. Quite a lot of what I've been reading has in some way been connected with this list. (recommendations, mentions, etc) Em - --- Bob Muller wrote: > I don't read as many books as I should...I read Atlantic Monthly, > Rolling Stone, Wired, Newsweek, Vanity Fair & several bloggers. I'm > lucky if I read two/three novels a year. Although I always read Carl > Hiaasen's books. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:31:49 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: new york shopping NJC B&H Photo Video 420 9th Avenue New York, N.Y. 10001 > I'm thinking of buying an I-pod when I'm in New York later this month (given > the strength of the euro (?) against the dollar). Any ideas about where I > should shop to get the best deal? > mike in bcn > np tom waits - orphans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:52:47 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: J rejects feminism (njc) Some women I knew embraced the > movement but also thought that you had to stop washing, brushing and curling > your hair, shaving, putting on make-up and other rituals to "stand up." > Crazy! That is not choice - that is dogma and catma. It was their choice, even if it was followed "dogmatically." These women were choosing to make a point. They chose to not follow the adornment rituals traditionally followed to attract men, just as many women chose to do so, mostly out of cultural habit. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:09:07 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Books NJC I read American Pastoral last year, and absolutely loved it. I've decided to read through the entire Roth oeuvre, maybe one or two a year. Since he's a Jersey boy it's my literary obligation to read him. Besides American Pastoral, I've read The Plot Against America and The Human Stain (and a long time ago, Portnoy's Complaint and Our Gang). This year I'll read I Married a Communist. At 06:19 AM 3/16/2007, you wrote: >Read Phillip Roth's "American Pastoral" recently. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:03:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Books and other obsessions NJC Yes, we have joked about that - all three of us (I have an older and a younger sister) have something we obsessively collect; my younger sister collects Disney films and other Disney stuff (mostly Jiminy Cricket items) and my older sister has all the Stephen King books. I'm sure that *I* have my own obsession, but I can't put my finger on it just now. Speaking of which, be on the lookout for mid-month Retro covers, coming your way this weekend. Bob NP: Living Colour, "Type" - --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:30:55 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: J rejects feminism (njc) I'm one of the women you're talking about who stopped shaving and wearing makeup, and it certainly WAS a choice, and it certainly WASN'T crazy. Like so many other women I drifted back into conventionality but I miss the old me, really. I wear makeup, badly, but I hate it, hate it, and I hate messing with my hair and thinking about clothes. At 06:52 AM 3/16/2007, you wrote: >Some women I knew embraced the > > movement but also thought that you had to stop washing, brushing > and curling > > your hair, shaving, putting on make-up and other rituals to "stand up." > > Crazy! That is not choice - that is dogma and catma. > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:36:30 +0000 From: "Azeem Ali Khan" Subject: Re: Books NJC I go through phases of reading loads of novels, then reading none for a few months. I recently picked up a cheapo package of all six novels shortlisted for the 2004 Booker Prize, most in hardback. The first I read was Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell, which was quite brilliant; a very clever construction, ingeniously resolved, and superb writing in six wholly different voices. I thought wow, this is going to be great, bring on the next one. Well, Sarah Hall's The Electric Michelangelo was just unreadable drivel - I had to hurl it aside with great force after 25 pages. Achmat Angor's Bitter Fruit was OK but slow and dull, and I gave up with that after about 75 pages. Then I got to the winner, The Line Of Beauty by Alan Hollingsworth. I was really looking forward to it, and expecting something beautifully written. Instead I got functional prose, a fussy, tell-don't-show approach and a load of characters I cared not one jot about. 100 pages and I threw in the towel. I never used to start novels and fail to finish them. I wonder if I'm becoming more curmudgeonly and over-cricital; or if this just reflects that I usually choose what to read with more care. Perhaps it's because, having bashed out a couple of short novels myself (unpublished, I hasten to add), I'm impatient with some of the stylistic affectations and attempts at profundity (as I see them) that seem to mask other deficiencies. Answers on a postcard... As for favourites: Robertson Davies is The Master as far as I'm concerned. I've read eleven of his novels, which I think may be all of them, and they're all great, with the Cornish Trilogy being the greatest of all. I think Jonathan Frantzen is hugely talented - a bit like a younger Robertson Davies, in some ways, a bit show-offy (maybe he'll not need to try so hard to impress with more miles on the clock), but he's got plenty worth showing off. And I love The Lord of the Rings too, having re-read it a couple of years ago for the first time since my teens. And incidentally I am slightly obsessed with the films, having watched them several times in the cinema and at home, and watched all the extras on the special edition DVDs. Peter Jackson is a genius! Azeem in London On 3/16/07, Deb Messling wrote: > > I read American Pastoral last year, and absolutely loved it. I've > decided to read through the entire Roth oeuvre, maybe one or two a > year. Since he's a Jersey boy it's my literary obligation to read > him. Besides American Pastoral, I've read The Plot Against America > and The Human Stain (and a long time ago, Portnoy's Complaint and Our > Gang). This year I'll read I Married a Communist. > > > At 06:19 AM 3/16/2007, you wrote: > >Read Phillip Roth's "American Pastoral" recently. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deb Messling -^..^- > dlmessling@rcn.com > http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:19:45 -0400 From: Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com Subject: Song to a Seagull Remastered Nice job Dave - sounds fantastic. I forgot how great STAS is - it been awhile since I listened to it. Thanks. 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NJC Well hell yeah...I would admit the following songs as evidence: Reeling In The Years Don't Take Me Alive Bodhissatva Black Friday Do It Again Kid Charlemagne My Old School Pretzel Logic Show Biz Kids The entire "Live At The Record Plant" bootleg - it totally kicks ass. And dont forget "Bad Sneakers", "Dr Wu", and "Boston Rag". BTW - I think it was Jimmie Paige who said that the guitar solo on Reelin in the Years is one of the best he has ever heard..... - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:11:44 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: RE: New York shopping NJC Les Ross wrote: >>Listen, I went over to texas last month and thought to raid the Apple store for goodies. I found that the dollar weakness didn't effect much in the way of savings. Even in non-apple stores I found the prices not noticeably cheaper. Are you shopping NYC before or after 'fest?<< Probably both, but look at this. B&H in NYC sell the 80 GB iPod for $325 (Thanks Jerry for the address). Price for the same in Barcelona is ?379. 1 euro = $1.32 ($1 =0.80 euro) therefore cost is 245 euros. This is a saving of 130 euros or $171. This will almost cover my bar bill at fest, if I don't drink on Saturday and Sunday ;-) Let's talk offline re our plans, see you soon, mike in bcn np The Road to Hell - Tom Waits ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:16:23 +0100 (CET) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE : Re: Books NJC In a lot of ways I think grad school ruined my reading fiction novels. I used to think that I can sneak up a Harry Potter book when I came to NC in 2003. But it never happened. Required readings in school are a-plenty that I was not even able to finish an engaging Gertrude Stein novella - I felt guilty reading something fictional when there's a ton of books from Derrida and Foucault and Lefebvre that I haven't even touched. So much so that I said to myself that as soon as I am done with my courses and comprehensive exams and proposal defense, I will catch up on the Harry Potter discussion (book 4 was the last one I read and that was when I was in Manila). But I didn't realize that as soon as you finish all those pesky requirements to be ABD, there is no chance to read books non-related to your dissertation. Or at least I didnt get a chance to do what I want to do and envied those friends of mine who are studying fluvial geomorphology, hydrology , etc. and who can read an occasional Sue Miller or Kazuo Ishiguro and marvel at how they can do those funky visuals in their computers and still read these novels. Reading academic books (in social theory) is a pain but I admit that once you become enmeshed (or sutured, as my film professor said) in the language of the writing and the debates around a topic, reading them are not as arduous as one would imagine. Not that I understand everything I read necessarily. Even Zizek and Grossberg would tell you that a lot of academics mis-read their books' intentionalities but they don't care. I like that. Right now, I am reading Homi Bhabha's "Location of Culture" which is about nation and identity and culture. Starting to read Deleuze and Guattari's A Thousand Plateaus they always get referenced in several texts. On the side, are graphic novels that I have become a fan of lately. Mostly Japanese and Fookien (both translated in English). And has anyone read Ishiguro's "A Pale View of Hills" or Marilynne Robinson's "Gilead"? Joseph in rainy Chapel Hill np: Yo-Yo Ma and Bobby McFerrin "Goodbye" - --------------------------------- Dicouvrez une nouvelle fagon d'obtenir des riponses ` toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expiriences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Riponses. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:07:51 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: new york shopping NJC From: "mike pritchard" > I'm thinking of buying an I-pod when I'm in New York later this month > (given > the strength of the euro (?) against the dollar). Any ideas about where I > should shop to get the best deal? J&R Music World - good prices & selection. www.jandr.com Circuit City has sales, too. Don't count out the Creative players. 2 gigs of flash (no hard drive or moving parts), plays regular mp3's so you don't have to deal with itunes/conversion. Replaceable batteries. Built in FM radio. I got the little nano (1 gig) for $60 and it sounds great, and even has a little 10 minute recorder with built-in mic if I think of a song. You can record straight off the FM radio, and there is also a line in jack. Flash memories are up to 8 gigs these days. RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:34:42 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: RE : Re: Books NJC The same thing happened to me in Grad School. I kept telling myself that I couldn't wait to be done so I could read all I want, what I want. But I found I soon tired of fiction. Has been true for me ever since. I would say 90% of what I read now is nonfiction. Jerry > In a lot of ways I think grad school ruined my reading fiction novels. I used > to think that I can sneak up a Harry Potter book when I came to NC in 2003. > But it never happened. > > Required readings in school are a-plenty that I was not even able to finish an > engaging Gertrude Stein novella - I felt guilty reading something fictional > when there's a ton of books from Derrida and Foucault and Lefebvre that I > haven't even touched. > > So much so that I said to myself that as soon as I am done with my courses and > comprehensive exams and proposal defense, I will catch up on the Harry Potter > discussion (book 4 was the last one I read and that was when I was in Manila). > But I didn't realize that as soon as you finish all those pesky requirements > to be ABD, there is no chance to read books non-related to your dissertation. > Or at least I didnt get a chance to do what I want to do and envied those > friends of mine who are studying fluvial geomorphology, hydrology , etc. and > who can read an occasional Sue Miller or Kazuo Ishiguro > and marvel at how they can do those funky visuals in their computers and > still read these novels. > > Reading academic books (in social theory) is a pain but I admit that once you > become enmeshed (or sutured, as my film professor said) in the language of the > writing and the debates around a topic, reading them are not as arduous as one > would imagine. Not that I understand everything I read necessarily. Even Zizek > and Grossberg would tell you that a lot of academics mis-read their books' > intentionalities but they don't care. I like that. > > Right now, I am reading Homi Bhabha's "Location of Culture" which is about > nation and identity and culture. Starting to read Deleuze and Guattari's A > Thousand Plateaus they always get referenced in several texts. On the side, > are graphic novels that I have become a fan of lately. Mostly Japanese and > Fookien (both translated in English). And has anyone read Ishiguro's "A Pale > View of Hills" or Marilynne Robinson's "Gilead"? > > Joseph in rainy Chapel Hill > np: Yo-Yo Ma and Bobby McFerrin "Goodbye" > > > --------------------------------- > Dicouvrez une nouvelle fagon d'obtenir des riponses ` toutes vos questions ! > Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expiriences des internautes > sur Yahoo! Questions/Riponses. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:37:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: buddist? Kate Bennett wrote: >>>>rr>We know she has called herself a buddhist. So there's one ist.< >>she does? I thought buddists didn't drink alcohol (& doesn't joni love her daily champagne?) Well, I don't know, Kurt Cobain called himself a buddist too, so .... I suppose like anything else, there are those who follow to the letter, and those who just follow the basic ideas. Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:50:57 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Sherelle and Kurt Elling and Bob Sheppard (Joni moments) Hi dear Kakki! I made it back safely Wednesday evening and have been trying to catch up with email and digests ever since! You said it all so perfectly! Kurt Ellling was more than amazing...he was phenomenal! He made me feel so bad for not practicing my own vocal instrument more! What he does is perfection! I can't tell you how Bob Shephard's smiles made my night! To be that close to someone who toured with Joni was amazing! I have never seen Joni in concert nor have I ever met her so I live vicariously to all who have done these things. I'm glad we decided to pass on trying to meet him because he really was engrossed in conversation with this couple at the bar. Oh, but he was so close! Back to Kurt for a minute. I absolutely loved that song in which he wrote lyrics for his daughter! Pure poetry! I told my older friend Helen about him and she was very intrigued. I'm going to get her a CD so that she can check him out. Which one do you suggest? I have a surprise for you: I was supposed to meet up with a bassist friend of mine, Chazz Frichtel who plays with Chuck Mangione and was able to send off a quick email on my friend's computer letting him know I was in town and that I'd gotten to see Kurt Elling perform. He wrote back that he hoped his dear friend Bob Shephard was playing with him that night! He and Bob Shephard are the best of friends and Bob actually played on Chazz' latest CD "My Therapist's Couch" believe it or not! Talk about synchronicity! Bob plays on a song in tribute to the late Don Alias, also a dear friend of Chazz'. If you'd like to hear the song which is called Nao Palavras (No Words) click on this link: www.myspace.com/chazzfrichtel That was weird! Anyway Kakki, I just wanted you to know this and how special sitting at the Bel Air hotel was! I could almost see Joni and Van Morrison as you were describing things to me! I'm also so glad we just picked up where we left off after nine years! Good friends can always do that! I'll post about my trip to Santa Barbara and Santa Ynez with Kate in just a bit! Let me just say that I had a wonderful time with Kate and Jeff as well! Thank you for letting me visit you Kakki! You made my trip so special!!! Kakki wrote: The Divine Miss Sherelle is spending a week out here in California and we got to spend a wonderful time yesterday catching up. I haven't seen her since the first Jonifest in Pittsburgh 9 years ago. It was just fantastic to visit with her again. She is such an inspiration and good lady. I figured she might like to go see some jazz and magically my fave Kurt Eilling was in town with band playing at Catalina Bar & Grill. We scored a table right next to the left stage. Kurt was blowing us away and then announced a special guest - none other than the legendary Bob Sheppard on alto sax! Bob toured with Joni throughout the 2000 Both Sides Now concert. Sherelle just loved getting "close to Joni" in a sense and they were smiling back and forth a bit with each other. Bob and Joni's 2000 tour drummer Peter Erskine have both recorded on Kurt's albums. He really attracts the cream of the "cats." Jeff Clayton of the Clayton Hamilton Jazz Orchestra (the "house" jazz orchestra of the Hollywood Bowl) was also sitting behind us. It was some stunning music. Afterward I just had to take her by the Hotel Bel Air bar where we sat by the fire reminiscing and I walked her through the Van and Joni 1998 tour parties there ;-) We both kept saying how lucky and appreciative we have been to have made so many incredible friends over the years through this list. She took off on the coast train to visit Kate B. in Santa Barbara wine country this morning. I'm sure she is going to have many great tales to tell when she gets back home. Sherelle, thank you again for taking the time to meet up and please come back again! Kakki _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:54:31 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Sherelle and Kurt Elling and Bob Sheppard (Joni moments) Paz, I wish you could have been there too, especially at the Bel Air Hotel! It's like I went back in time and could feel Joni all around! Kakki tells her story so wonderfully! I was mesmerized! Hope you are doing well on the road my friend! Thoughts and love are with you! Love, Sherelle Paz wrote: Sounds like you guys had a great time. Wish i could have been there. In Ft. Wayne Indiana to tonight and home tomorrow. Love Paz _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:03:42 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Fwd: Don Alias "Remembrance" Hi Paz, Chazz Frichtel mentioned this to me as well while I was in L.A. Thank you for posting! I had spoken to you about some sort of tribute to Don and am so glad to see this! You are probably going to be on the road. Chazz is going to try to make it there. This is a well deserved tribute that I hope gets recorded. I would love to spread the word about Don's life and music on the airwaves. Everyone needs to know what a great muisican and person we lost. Love, Sherelle From: Michael Paz HEADS UP NEW YORK CITY Best paz Begin forwarded message: From: Music@TundraEnterprise.com Date: March 10, 2007 11:29:08 AM CST To: Remembrance@DonAlias.com Subject: Don Alias "Remembrance" Reply-To: Music@TundraEnterprise.com Hello, On April 1, 2007, 1-4p, there will be a gathering to celebrate the memory and spirit of Don Alias. Please see: http://www.DonAlias.com/ for details. Hope to see you there. Tundra Enterprise _________________________________________________________________ Live Search Maps  find all the local information you need, right when you need it. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag2&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:23:53 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Italian Joni Forum I don't know why reading this made me laugh. : -) What's up with those italians? From: "Pietro" Subject: Italian Joni Forum To all Italian Joni fans: go to http://jonimitchell.forumfree.net/. You'll find the first Italian Joni forum, a place to discuss and share thoughts about Joni's amazing music. Please join us! Thanks J _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:26:34 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Sherelle and Kurt Elling and Bob Sheppard (Joni moments) Kate, Whenever I talk to others about my visit with you and hanging out at Cold Springs Tavern, I just go back in time to those moments! It was glorious! Each part of my trip was very unique and special so no worries! One wonderful Joni moment came when you took me to the entrance of the Santa Barbara Bowl where Joni gave her famous Shadows and Light performance. It was extremely special to me because Shadows and Light is my favorite Joni CD! To me it is the perfect concert and means even more to me now that both Michael Brecker and Don Alias are no longer with us. That Saturday morning on the train ride back to L.A., I played Shadows and Light in it's entirety on my MP3 player. I also played Court and Spark so I could hear the song, "Just Like This Train". It was so perfect! I could imagine Joni sitting in a seat like mine "Settling down into the clickity-clack". I had the ocean to watch and it was a beautiful sight indeed. I highly recommend taking the train ride from L.A. to Santa Barbara just for the sheer beauty of it! Make sure you sit on the left side of the train though! I can't even begin to tell you how beautiful I thought Santa Ynez was!!! I've been telling everyone of it's beauty! It literally took my breath away! Then to have the pleasure of meeting your beautiful animals was the icing on the cake! I will especially remember Zuma your horse and how happy he was once you brushed him over! I still laugh because he took this stance and attitude like the donkey on Shrek II (I'm a stallion baby!) I told you that I'd had a bad experience with an temperamental horse when I was younger so it was good that you helped me understand them better. It was a good experience for me. Cold Spring Tavern was like going to heaven! It was a small but wonderful place on the side of the mountain. Right before we left, Jeff showed me the spring next to the tavern which prompted it's name. Even though the water level was low, I could imagine how beautiful it was flowing full force. The Gendarmes of Swing were absolutely fantastic and added to the atmoshphere and the food was fantastic! I can't believe they were even able to serve us in such a small area but they did! Amazing! There is a video from Neil Young's song "Harvest Moon" that reminds me so much of Cold Spring Tavern. If anyone has ever seen that, you will get an idea of the beauty of this place. You could almost reach up and touch the stars. So beautiful! The valley was also very beautiful. Kate took me past David Crosby's home and then onto this road that led to a beautiful monastery facing a cascade of mountains. There were cattle walking about freely and the most serene and beautiful sights I'd ever seen! Santa Ynez is like heaven on earth! Thank you for sharing your home and your life with me for just a little while Kate! I will never forget it! Also, I had a chance to listen to your music and Jeff's music on the flight home and I am so blown away by them both! You both are poets! Please keep going, going, going with it! I'm so excited! I'll be in touch privately! Love, Sherelle Kate wrote: I feel the same as you Kakki. I'd not seen Sherelle since that first full moon fest (2002 I think it was) & it was so great to see her again. She had such fun with you & I was a bit worried that your hospitality & cool LA music adventures would be a hard act to follow. I picked her up in SB yesterday AM & we drove around some areas, along the beach, over to Montecito & the foothills, then back downtown to SB to have lunch. Then over the mountain to Santa Ynez. We drove around a bit more to see some of the beautiful countryside then went into a few of the shops in downtown SY (blink & you'll miss it!). For the evening, Jeff joined us & we went up to Cold Spring Tavern (on the mountain) to hear a Django Reinhart (sp?) style band that I'd heard before & thought she'd enjoy. I told her that Victor, Kakki, Richard (of GA), & the Dulson's had all set foot there at one point or another. What I love about the Tavern is in all the years I've been going there, nothing has changed one bit. It is an old stage coach stop from way back. We had fun talking to a man who had worked there 30 years ago told us how he'd (back then) met a 90 year old woman who came in & said it hadn't changed at all since she had been there as a kid in a buckboard! So that would have been 100 or more years ago! Nice to know there is one place that remains the same. Sherelle went back to the train this morning to visit another friend in LA. I look forward to the day when she comes back this way on her music tour _________________________________________________________________ 5.5%* 30 year fixed mortgage rate. Good credit refinance. Up to 5 free quotes - *Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h2a5d&s=4056&p=5117&disc=y&vers=910 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:30:30 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Sherelle (njc) Hi Victor! I'm so happy you got to experience this as well! I don't think I'll ever forget it! I didn't get to spend as much time with Kakki in L.A. as you did but we definitely made it count! Did you take the train to Santa Barbara or did you drive? Either way, it's a beautiful trip! I hope you can go on this trip again. I certainly plan to! Love, Sherelle From: Victor Johnson I'm so glad Sherelle was able to experience the same journey I went on a few years ago. I often think about sitting in the cafe in downtown LA, drinking martinis with Kakki, going to Laurel Canyon for dinner, drinking coffee at the Bellair Hotel, visiting the German restaurant, then trekking up the coast to Santa Barbara to visit Kate and Jeff and attend the Joni Mitchell tribute. I hope to go on this same journey again some day soon. It is one not to be missed. Victor, wearing my "Soho restaurant shirt" today _________________________________________________________________ i'm making a difference. Make every IM count for the cause of your choice. Join Now. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0080000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:36:38 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Song to a Seagull Remastered THANK YOU Dave and Jerry. . I am beginning to listen to it now. . it sounds clear. . it made me start thinking about hearing Joni up close. . and the clarity I may hear. . . I really imagined it. . and then that feeling started coming over me. . hysterical like. . : -) like the time I heard heard her sing amelia in concert. . I just broke down. . I wasn't expecting it. . . I just cried and screamed (I'm not a screamer. . : -) ) laughing about it now How would it be, do you think, if you were right next to joni as she was singing and playing? Marianne Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:59:47 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Song to a Seagull Remastered To all Joniamigos, After seven attempts and some back and forth consulting with my listening assistant Jerry Notaro, I have finally got STAS much closer to where it should be sonically. Given the rather extreme problems of the source (early 60's panning -dated by 1968 even- , harsh guitar tones, distorted vocal phrases, tape hiss and excessive chamber reverb along with withered tape stock before the source CD was originally transferred) there are still some unfixable problems but Jerry and I believe they have improved considerably. I had to resort to some pretty bizarre methods to get there but the results are here now for you to hear. I have encoded the files as highest bit rate mp3s instead of the AAC files I prefer as it appears many of you don't use iTunes, so there should be universal translation to your computer setup. From there you can burn a CD. As before, you must already own the CD before downloading; although I can't verify this I'm doing the honor system this time. Let me know if the revised sound works for you. thanks, Dave http://www.yousendit.com/download/T2dmV0o2U1BRYTgwTVE9PQ _________________________________________________________________ Live Search Maps  find all the local information you need, right when you need it. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag2&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:39:09 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Betty Hutton RIP (NJC) How sweet it is all three of you like her. . From: Gary Z Subject: Re: Betty Hutton RIP (NJC) Hi Jerry, I always kind of thought Betty was sort of the 40s and 50s Bette Midler (of Bette's early days); wild and vivacious. I'm glad that Bette recorded one of her songs, "Stuff Like That There" from "For the Boys" and had often wished that she would have recorded more of some of Betty's great songs. Some are beautiful ballads, and some are just hilarious comedic songs. I'm glad to know that you and Smurf were fans of Betty too! Best, Gary Z. Detroit _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:54:22 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Joni and Feminism, Paz report, Jonifest (now njc) Jill I am so glad that you had a chance to meet the Pazman and hear the Preservation Hall Band! Aren't they something else? Wow! I am still speechless from my experience! Please don't feel bad about getting lost in your own city! I do it too! I'm just glad that you were able to connect with each other! Sherelle Jill wrote: Double Segue...Belated Paz Report: I heard that Michael and the Preservation Hall Jazz Band were coming to Seattle, so I thought it would be a great opportunity to meet him and welcome him to the Emerald City. Sadly, I turned out to be a rather dorky welcome hostess. The night before the concert, I got lost (in my own dang city) trying to meet him for a wind-down Seattle seafood dinner after his long tour bus ride from Arizona. He ended up having to find me, and also find a restaurant before he starved to death. He remained ever gracious. The next evening, Michael got me a great seat for the band's concert at the Paramount, and the experience surpassed all of my expectations. The venue was set up with table seating on the floor and balcony seats above. The band was great, and I happened to get seated next to two young girls who didn't care that I was an old fart. The three of us went up to the front of the stage and started dancing, and pretty soon, more joined us. At the end, in New Orleans style, a whole group of audience members came up and formed a dancing chain. We wove through every aisle in the hall and finally ended up on stage behind the band, dancing our fool heads off. Then out came the beads and coins, and it was Mardi Gras! Post-concert, we went to one of the band-member's room in the quite swanky Hyatt Hotel, and had some snackage. I successfully de-tuned Michael's guitar to my "Coyote" tuning. I wonder if he was ever able to fix it. Anyway, thank you Michael for giving me a great experience in my city. You were the true host, and I was a lucky guest. Thanks, Jill _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage refinance is hot 1) Rates near 30-yr lows 2) Good credit get intro-rate 4.625%* https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h2a5f&s=4056&p=5117&disc=y&vers=743 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:08:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: buddist? -- njc Michael Flaherty wrote: << Well, I don't know, Kurt Cobain called himself a buddist too, so .... I suppose like anything else, there are those who follow to the letter, and those who just follow the basic ideas. >> Sorta like some of the people who call themselves Christian who couldn't be further from the teachings of Christ when it comes to their war mongering and general lack of love for their neighbors. Then there are the Catholic priests who rape children . . . Don't get me started, --Smurf . - --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:19:21 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered How would it be, do you think, if you were right next to joni as she was singing and playing? - ------------------------------------ Wow, that's a very interesting question and something I have never thought about. I think it would be like an out of body experience. You see, a concert in itself (to me anyways), is the greatest high you could ever achieve. Sure, some drugs are fun, and some things in life are fun, but nothing beats seeing a great concert....and to be right there man, wow. I don't know. I would probably just watch closely...watch her fingers and her style of playing much further. I don't think I'd even say a word until it was over and then afterward I'd try to chat. There are many things I'd be interested in hearing her opinion on. - -Monika ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:23:14 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered As I told David throughout this process the most important improvement is Joni's voice and lyrics are up front and crystal clear. It is like hearing it for the very first time. Sorry to sound like Madonna:) Jerry > THANK YOU Dave and Jerry. . > I am beginning to listen to it now. . it sounds clear. . > > it made me start thinking about hearing Joni up close. . > and the clarity I may hear. . . > > I really imagined it. . > > and then that feeling started coming over me. . > hysterical like. . : -) > > like the time I heard heard her sing amelia in concert. . > > I just broke down. . I wasn't expecting it. . . > I just cried and screamed > (I'm not a screamer. . : -) ) > > laughing about it now > > > How would it be, do you think, if you were right next to joni as she was > singing and playing? > > > Marianne > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:59:47 -0700 > From: Dave Blackburn > Subject: Song to a Seagull Remastered > > To all Joniamigos, > After seven attempts and some back and forth consulting with my > listening assistant Jerry Notaro, I have finally got STAS much closer > to where it should be sonically. Given the rather extreme problems of > the source (early 60's panning -dated by 1968 even- , harsh guitar > tones, distorted vocal phrases, tape hiss and excessive chamber > reverb along with withered tape stock before the source CD was > originally transferred) there are still some unfixable problems but > Jerry and I believe they have improved considerably. I had to resort > to some pretty bizarre methods to get there but the results are here > now for you to hear. > > I have encoded the files as highest bit rate mp3s instead of the AAC > files I prefer as it appears many of you don't use iTunes, so there > should be universal translation to your computer setup. From there > you can burn a CD. As before, you must already own the CD before > downloading; although I can't verify this I'm doing the honor system > this time. > > Let me know if the revised sound works for you. > > thanks, Dave > > http://www.yousendit.com/download/T2dmV0o2U1BRYTgwTVE9PQ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Live Search Maps  find all the local information you need, right when you > need it. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag2&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:31:46 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered On Mar 16, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Motitan@aol.com wrote: > How would it be, do you think, if you were right next to joni as > she was > singing and playing? > ------------------------------------ > Wow, that's a very interesting question and something I have > never > thought about. I think it would be like an out of body > experience. You see, a > concert in itself (to me anyways), is the greatest high you could > ever achieve. > > That's exactly what it was like for me when I was sitting right in front of James Taylor as he sang "Sweet Baby James." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:34:26 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: buddist? -- njc Right. You can believe in certain doctrines but not necessarily live the doctrine. Does it make you any less of a person? I don't think so. Jesus hung out with thieves and people and was cool. I mean people are Christians and techinally you're not supposed to have sex before marriage and yet hardly anyone follows that.....I mean you're not supposed to swear....lie....cheat.....a whole load of things and yet you can still believe. We are only human and sometimes we make mistakes...and sometimes we make choices that aren't regarded too highly...and sometimes we do what we do just because we want to do it (repeat that three times! Ha!). I don't see anything wrong with what anyone does as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else no matter what religion you are or beliefs you have. I think (sorry if this offends anyone) religion is so constricting sometimes. It makes you feel guilty of things that you should feel no guilt about. Religion in theory is great. It provides hope when there is none. But when it comes down to people following it and leading the way, they fuck it up man. People fuck up religion. The churches, the bible preachers, the stern religious extremists that are bombing people for God or telling you that you're going to hell if you don't read this pamphlet and abide by God. Nobody knows God for sure man. That kind of stuff drives me crazy. And haven't medical studies shown that a daily glass of wine or champagne actually improves your health? What's to say to that? Haha. - -Monika ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:29:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: buddist? Joni hasn't described herself as a Buddhist, but rather describes herself as an amalgamation of religions and philosophies. She has said that of the various religions she's studied, she identifies more with Buddhism than any other. I wouldn't say that's the same thing as calling yourself a Buddhist though. Bob, more nudist than Buddhist NP: Pippin Soundtrack, "Spread A Little Sunshine" - --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:32:13 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Betty Hutton RIP (NJC) Hi Gary, Thanks so much for sharing your story and the news about Betty Hutton. I can tell she meant a lot to you and it was so nice for those two men to help you get an autographed photo of her. I can feel your heart my friend and I feel your loss. I'm just glad she had a chance to touch your life personally. Love, Sherelle Gary wrote: I just discovered that one of my very favorite actresses/singers has passed away. She was a remarkable woman. Some of you may remember Betty Hutton. I'm watching TCM on cable and they're showing a few of her movies. When they said "Memorial Tribute" I was stunned, and immediately went to the internet and found this: http://www.broadway.com/gen/Buzz_Story.aspx?ci=545214 I had corresponded with the two men who were her caregivers last year, and they graciously had Betty sign a photo for me. Another sad loss in the entertainment industry. Betty, you will be missed! Best regards, Gary Z. 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