From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #109 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, March 12 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 109 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Word article/artists/internet [Victor Johnson ] Re: Joni travels [Victor Johnson ] Re: Joni travels [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni travels [Victor Johnson ] Re: Joni travels [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni travels [Smurf ] Re: sneak preview - CSHOF Gala photos ["Dr. Katherine Whited" ] Joni and the Crips [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:56:50 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Word article/artists/internet > I didn't have a problem with her seeming arrogant or anything > of that > nature. I do think she says some strange things but from reading > articles/interviews/and things from books/hearing in between songs > banter, she's always > been a little out there! Better that than boring if you ask me. Amen sistah!!! > Now a lot of you said you didn't agree with something she said and > I'm > sure all of us don't agree with some things Joni says/does in > general. It's > all subjective really. But my question is, can you enjoy the > music without > liking the person from what you know? Sure, we never really know > what an > artist is really like as we don't see them on a day-to-day basis > but you get an > idea--or more or less a glimpse of how they come across. Now I'm > not accusing > anyone here of not liking Joni as a person or saying I don't like > her as a > person of what I know......it's all hypothetical here. I'm just > asking, can > you make a separation between the person and the music? Someone > on the list > mentioned this here earlier. And if you can make the separation, > can you like > the music and hate the person or certain things about the person? > I say yes. > I say yes too. For example, I finally picked up the Black Sabbath Box from Rhino with the eight original albums re-mastered ( I wish they weren't dragging their feet so much with Joni) and have been totally digging them all day. As far as Ozzy Osbourne goes as a person, his lifestyle does not particular endear me (I have never had any interest in watching the Osbournes) but I love the music he created with Sabbath. They had a very powerful sound and influenced countless bands who followed them. As far as hating/disliking any artists goes, I try to avoid judging them as its true, we don't really know these people. I've also been listening to a lot of Keith Jarret lately and one of my professors (piano department) told me he has a reputation for being very difficult to work with as far as his personality. Knowing that, I still like his playing as much as I did before. > I mean come on man, if Joni > had a blog you know you'd read it. Hell yeah! Victor NP: Lee Morgan "I'm a Fool to Want You" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:07:57 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Joni travels On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:42 PM, Motitan@aol.com wrote: > I just don't have luck with boys listening to Joni in my car > man! And > as it turns out, he kind of irritated me the whole day. I didn't > say anything > to him as I didn't want to ruin anyone's time but I have to admit > I was a > bit moody until later in the night when we met up with our other > friends (he > later irritated me again with too much drama on his part and > freaking out for > no reason whatsoever). If he was a straight, white male he might have been afraid! You might be better off playing it for some brothahs. ;) Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:22:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni travels - --- Victor Johnson wrote: > If he was a straight, white male he might have been > afraid! You > might be better off playing it for some brothahs. > ;) > That Joni. Scary, isn't she? (and at least a wee bit flaky too.) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:31:41 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Joni travels On Mar 11, 2007, at 11:22 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > > That Joni. Scary, isn't she? (and at least a wee bit > flaky too.) > Ah, but that's why we love her so! Victor NP: David Sylvian "Forbidden Colours" [having itunes on shuffle is better than any radio station ever was!] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:20:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni travels - --- Motitan@aol.com wrote: > -Monika, one who can't play Joni Mitchell in her own > car without someone > stopping it or saying it bores them > basically....... Boo. Hiss. Throw the bum out. How rude can you get. It's your car. You get to listen to your music. They get to shut up. At least he revealed his true self right from the start. Once a wanker, always a wanker. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:27:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Joni travels - --- Victor wrote: << If he was a straight, white male he might have been afraid! You might be better off playing it for some brothahs. ;) >> Especially if they weigh 300 lbs and happen to be second-in-command of a violent street gangs. - --Smurf NP: "Rehab" by Amy Winehouse . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:41:31 -0600 From: "Dr. Katherine Whited" Subject: Re: sneak preview - CSHOF Gala photos Michael I captured a few nice shots of Joni and guests KW Yes you did. Thanks for sharing them. I sure like her jewelry and dress. On 3/11/07, Michael O'Malley wrote: > > I captured a few nice shots of Joni and guests from the DVD that I > recorded > of the CSHOF Gala, which aired on CBC-TV March 5. > > Thanks to Brian Gross, there will be copies of this DVD circulating within > the JMDL soon. In the meantime, here a a few sneak previews. (You can see > Joni's companion in a couple of these shots.) > > http://michaelquebec.spaces.live.com/ > > Enjoy. > > Michael in Quebec > > NP: Sarah Slean - Lucky Me > > _________________________________________________________________ > Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live > Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca > - -- Love and Light, Katherine www.drkatherine.info www.mcs.drkatherine.info "In every culture and in every medical tradition before ours, healing was accomplished by moving energy." Albert Szent-Gyorgyi, Nobel Laureate in Medicine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:11:17 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni travels Once a wanker, always a wanker - --------------------------------- Right you are! I forgot to mention before I did get back at him a bit (I don't call us even but still). A few minutes after he made the comment about this being the kind of music that puts you to sleep well I made sure he was awake. No cars were in the right lane so out of the blue for no reason whatsoever I jerked my wheel to the right as hard as I could, kind of throwing him to the other side of the car and said, "oops, hope I didn't wake you." Of course he laughed, I laughed, my friend laughed and everyone thought it was me just joking around (in a way of course) but at the same time deep down it made me feel better in an evil sort of way, haha. Maybe my friend knew what I was really up to but he was clueless and just laughed. And I guess next time I drive through the eastside of Cleveland, Ohio where the gas stations have bars on the windows and you have to pay by slipping your hand through a jailed up slot (there are no entrances---not a fancy place to be), I'll roll my windows all the way down and blast some Joni. Maybe I'll make some new "brotha" friends. - -Monika


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