From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #105 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, March 10 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 105 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni's Voice ["Ross, Les" ] Another bloody list njc ["Azeem Ali Khan" ] Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC TV [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: And guitars of yours NJC [Em ] Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) [Em ] joni. . love of nature, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) [Em ] TV shows, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC TV [Em ] Re: joni. . love of nature, njc ["Jenny Goodspeed" ] njc, lunch w/ a friend and a little PP&M ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: NJC TV [missblux@googlemail.com] The Word article [missblux@googlemail.com] RE: Word article ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Another bloody list njc ["Randy Remote" ] tv shows njc [Robert Procyk ] Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) ["Randy Remote" ] Re: TV shows, njc [Motitan@aol.com] Joni Complete on ebay [Victor Johnson ] Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) ["Randy Remote" ] Re: TV shows, njc ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Word article ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Word article [Victor Johnson ] Re: Word article [Victor Johnson ] Re: tv shows njc [Em ] Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) [Em ] Re: Word article [Motitan@aol.com] AUDIO CDs of Canadian Sonwriters Hall of Fame induction and Both Sides Now radio broadcast [Brian Gross ] Re: and guitars of yours ["don whiteman" ] Brad Delp RIP (njc) [Victor Johnson ] Fw: Joni's voice/Word article [] Re: The Word article [] Re: Joni's Parker, and guitars of yours [Bruce Eggleston Subject: Re: Joni's Voice Azeem wrote on the subject of Joni's interview in Word: I'm afraid so. For the longest time now, every time i read Joni in interview i'm groaning a little inside at the way she bangs on about her misperception, misrepresentation, misappropration, miscellaneous. Joni, we know, we heard it already. Those of us who listen to you got the message a time ago. Those not listening to you, well, they don't and wont. You've been going on about the same thing for what feels like decades - (I'm talking in relation to herself and her place in the world as an artist.) Now, as far as i'm concerned, she can rail endlessly about the state of the world. That i have no problem with that. Her insights and sensitivities i can listen to til the cows come home whether i agree with them or not. See, for me the big schism is the way she is presented by Kakki and others who've had the good fortune to have met the old bird in the flesh and passed the time of day with her. This is the Joni i've always held out was there. This "Interview Joni" is a pain in the arseberts. I'd sooner she didn't bother if she's just going to talk about herself and how hard done-by she feels. Life can be like that sometimes, get on with it. Can't help thinking too that if she just got on with her work in whatever form it manifests and took it and her world views to the public domain her perceived stock would rise if only by virtue of her putting her creative money where her Sire of Sorrow mouth is. I mean. Aren't we all just a little sick of people yacking on about stuff. Do the thing whatever it is and be judged by that. Les (digest boy...I liked that crack Bobbit Mu) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:20:47 +0000 From: "Azeem Ali Khan" Subject: Another bloody list njc Some of these lists are fun, some are rubbish; I like this one a lot. I have no idea who Dave Barry is, but he's on to something. http://www.piffe.com/jokes/25things.phtml Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:22:24 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) Amen! And my son & I did just that last night in Asheville - we caught My Morning Jacket at the Orange Peel. I knew it would be a killer gig, just didn't know that it would be THAT smokin', that long (2.5 hour show, not including the warmup band that started at 9PM), or that LOUD. My ears have that nice little Pete Townshend ring in them right now. And just when I was thinking I am getting too old for this sort of thing, I was in the bed at 2:30, up at 5:30 and in my cubicle right on time. (Just don't expect a lot of productivity out of me today, folks). Bob NP: Erykah Badu, "On & On" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:40:00 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC TV Bene wrote: > But surely, some of you'd have 6fu on your list??? > > Hi Bene, "6fu" LOLLLLLLLLL considering "fuck" is about their favorite word on the show. I watched the whole series on DVD and enjoyed it. With each episode, I would see how long it took them to say "fuck." More than once it was in the first sentence of the show. I thought about counting how many times they said it in one episode, but I didn't get around to it. On one of the DVDs they interviewed the actors which was really cool. The last episode was very moving and thought provoking. Love, Laura ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 05:34:36 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: And guitars of yours NJC I have a really nice old guitar, but I feel kind of guilty having it as I never play it. 1959 Gibson "country and western" model that I got back in like 1976 after my old man would not allow me to buy a 66 Mustang convertible. Was forced to buy a 65 Rambler AMerican instead and so I had $100 or so left over. The neck shape and neck inlays are like from an electric, the body is like a J-45 and the pick guard was originally shaped like either a hummingbird or dove, but without an image on it. Mine has no pick guard and the top is a little wavy, but the wood is now the color of honey and it sings so sweet. A couple of years ago its head snapped off, but this guy fixed it good as new. I am lucky. Trying to make friends with the idea that its not bogus to sing others' songs, even at age 47. And am kind of itching to learn some Dave Carter songs. So maybe soon I'll pick it up again. No more callouses tho..got to regenerate some! :( Em ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 05:42:08 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) - --- Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > And just when I was thinking I am getting too old for this sort of > thing, > I was in the bed at 2:30, up at 5:30 and in my cubicle right on time. you obviously did not drink.... harharhar... :) sounds like fun Bob. Happy Friday, and get some rest. Em ps rock ON witcha bad self.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 08:51:53 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: joni. . love of nature, njc Joni said: >I went to do this lecture on how to instal a love of nature >on earth day in san francisco. . . Yes, how do we do this? "teach your children. . ." How do we instill a love of nature in this world to people who distance themselves from the very thing that gives them life (and beauty). I would like to have gone to this lecture. Marianne >joni: l had lost some of my voice. it was severe. i'd go to hit a note and >there was nothing there. i used to have three octaves and people blamed it >on my smoking. i went to a throat specialist who assured me it wasn't and >said it had to do with my digestion partially. i also had nodes from >singing >rock and roll. i went to do this lecture on how to instal a love of nature >on earth day in san francisco _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 06:00:04 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) yeah that's way strange, the beer age thing. When I turned 18 the law here in FL allowed 18 year olds to drink, but then I went away for a year to Europe (where I drank like a fish) and when I came home, they'd raised the drinking age in FL to 21! So I went back to Europe, man. lol, kidding..but still. Yep makes no sense. And glad you were able to metabolize your 3 beers so well. Have a great weekend, Bob. Em - --- Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > harharhar...> > > You obviously do no know me... ;o) Two Gaelic Ales & a Purple Haze > (beers) > but I had all three before 9PM so I was in fine shape when we left > the > venue at 1AM. My son turns 21 this fall and it will be a delight to > be out > and enjoying a beer together at a show or a restaurant. Why in the > world > can an 18-year old not have a beer in public when they can get > married, > have kids, join the military and go to war, buy a house, get > divorced, > etc. etc? It makes absolutely no sense to me - than again, so little > does. > > Bob > > NP: America, "Moon Song" > > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you > are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, > dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken > in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message > are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect > the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 08:59:59 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: TV shows, njc "My so called life." I liked that show. Anyone seen it? _________________________________________________________________ With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few simple tips. http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:50:41 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) You obviously do no know me... ;o) Two Gaelic Ales & a Purple Haze (beers) but I had all three before 9PM so I was in fine shape when we left the venue at 1AM. My son turns 21 this fall and it will be a delight to be out and enjoying a beer together at a show or a restaurant. Why in the world can an 18-year old not have a beer in public when they can get married, have kids, join the military and go to war, buy a house, get divorced, etc. etc? It makes absolutely no sense to me - than again, so little does. Bob NP: America, "Moon Song" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 06:03:41 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC TV "f_ck" is practically a rhythmic device in speech now. For instance the use of "mutherf_cker" in The Sopranos. I mean, their speech simply would not FLOW correctly without that word. same with some rap stuff my neighbor's kids listen to. (and which, due to my proximity, also, ahem, listen to) :) Em - --- LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > Bene wrote: > > > > But surely, some of you'd have 6fu on your list??? > > > > > > Hi Bene, > > "6fu" LOLLLLLLLLL considering "fuck" is about their favorite > word on > the show. I watched the whole series on DVD and enjoyed it. With > each > episode, I would see how long it took them to say "fuck." More than > once it was > in the first sentence of the show. I thought about counting how > many times > they said it in one episode, but I didn't get around to it. > > On one of the DVDs they interviewed the actors which was really > cool. > The last episode was very moving and thought provoking. > > Love, > Laura > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free email to > everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:18:14 -0500 From: "Jenny Goodspeed" Subject: Re: joni. . love of nature, njc there was an article in orion magazine addressing this issue this month. here it is. it's long but worth the read. jenny http://www.orionmagazine.org/pages/om/07-2om/Louv.html On 3/9/07, Marianne Rizzo wrote: > > Joni said: > >I went to do this lecture on how to instal a love of nature > >on earth day in san francisco. . . > > > Yes, how do we do this? > > "teach your children. . ." > > How do we instill a love of nature in this world > to people who distance themselves > from the very thing that gives them life (and beauty). > > > I would like to have gone to this lecture. > > Marianne > > > > > > >joni: l had lost some of my voice. it was severe. i'd go to hit a note > and > >there was nothing there. i used to have three octaves and people blamed > it > >on my smoking. i went to a throat specialist who assured me it wasn't and > >said it had to do with my digestion partially. i also had nodes from > >singing > >rock and roll. i went to do this lecture on how to instal a love of > nature > >on earth day in san francisco > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office > Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:32:32 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: mash ups albums http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1485693/20040311/jay_z.jhtml?headlines=true/ Story about Danger Mouse's Gray Album which mixes the Beatles White Album and Jay-Z's Brown Album. It finishes with the following paragraph: "Someone asked me if I would ever use Joni Mitchell's Blue album with Weezer's 'Green Album' or R.E.M.'s Green and make The Turquoise Album," Burton said, smiling. "While that's funny to say, it could be interesting if I sat down to do it." Mark-Leon, what are you waiting for? mike in bcn np Gorillaz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:34:31 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, lunch w/ a friend and a little PP&M Chelsea Morning! Today I am having lunch with a dear friend of spirit (who doesn't drink or womanize). We try to meet at least twice a year. He's a retired Spanish professor, who is pushing through a four decade-long X 2 lane highway of life. He is wonderfully wise and kind and chock full of love and good advice. I think of these lunches as my "Tuesdays with Morrie." I always get some precious nuggets of wisdom from him, and we always end up laughing and crying. Sol has had much sorrow in his life -- he lost his beloved daughter to ovarian cancer when she was only 34, and he lovingly nursed his wife through stroke after stroke for many years, so he's deep, not superficial. He's a gem....stands out like a ruby! The reason I'm sharing this is because the last time we met, we talked about Joni and.....Peter, Paul & Mary! (When I wrote to him this week to set up the time, I mentioned PP&M and he wrote back: "PP&M? It sounds like a railroad!" LOL....I think you'd get along with him, Catherine!) Okay, so the last time I saw Sol I "came out" with my JMOCD. He doesn't really know Joni, so I tried to explain. I said she writes a lot about feelings, and he asked: "Oh, did she write that song "Feelings?" I laughed and toasted to Joni and went on a bit. He then shared that his all-time favorite musical group is Peter, Paul and Mary. They had recently been on PBS and he talked about watching the show, and seeing all the grandparents and parents and young children in the audience singing along with "We Shall Overcome." Sol got all choked up and, with tears streaming down his face, said: "God. Those little children didn't even know WHAT we were trying to overcome. It was such an important time." If he shares any more about PP&M I'll let you know. Peace, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more.then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:43:44 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Another bloody list njc That's actually a pretty old list, but always worth a second or third look. I repeat the one about birthdays quite a bit. Dave Barry is a syndicated humor columnist out of Florida and has also written a bunch of books, one of which details the worst pop songs ever. Let's just say he is not a Neil Diamond fan and leave it at that. NP: Joni, "Be Cool" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 12:58:53 -0500 From: lcstanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC TV Em wrote: "f_ck" is practically a rhythmic device in speech now. Hi Em, I like it when Anthony of Hot Chili Peppers sings, "give it away, give it away, give it away, now" for the way it rythmically moves in his mouth. I like the phrase, "shut the f_ck up" for the same reason as far as the word goes. Love, Laura ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:22:47 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Word article Well so I promised Katherine to scan the Word article yesterday but got delayed with everything and today it turned out that our scanner has been locked up in some room and you need to ask permission to use it... and when I finally managed I couldn't scan the text into anything readable. Maybe it's partly due to my brains being slowly grilled these days... But I did manage to scan some photos which I'll send via YouTube. I like the one from the front cover! she looks sparkling. BN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:34:21 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: RE: Word article missblux wrote: >Well so I promised Katherine to scan the >Word article yesterday but got delayed London Les has graciously scanned this article. It's currently being typed for the Library but if you can't wait, you can read it here: http://jmdl.com/library/typing/2007-04Word.pdf Thanks Les! The other Les ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:44:15 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: NJC TV Hey Laura! I never even noticed the fuck word in 6FU, but now that you say so I guess you are right! I sometimes tire of it in films about gangsters, but then that's because I sometimes wonder why we have to watch all these films about US gangsters. I mean, fuck them, right...:-) Especially when they can make films like 6fu. It's so brilliant, the way they really go under the skin of these people... and the death theme and what people fill their lives with... it's brilliant! I am not even sure I watched the final episode. I move around all the time so sometimes I have a TV sometimes I don't. Apparently the people who made 6fu also made American Beauty which I found amazing too. I've got the music for it, by some Thomas Newman, I've noticed it is used in a zillion TV and radio programmes Hum, and speaking about gangster films, I'd recommend Infernal Affairs, the Chinese film that Scorsese copied in "the Departed". It's so slick and intelligent and cool... But enough from me..! Bene On 3/9/07, LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > > Bene wrote: > > > > But surely, some of you'd have 6fu on your list??? > > > > Hi Bene, > > "6fu" LOLLLLLLLLL considering "fuck" is about their favorite word on > the show. I watched the whole series on DVD and enjoyed it. With each > episode, I would see how long it took them to say "fuck." More than once it > was in the first sentence of the show. I thought about counting how many > times they said it in one episode, but I didn't get around to it. > > On one of the DVDs they interviewed the actors which was really cool. > The last episode was very moving and thought provoking. > > Love, > Laura > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from > AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 19:07:13 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: The Word article Hi, well I agree that some of the things she says are fairly grumpy and some are arrogant. For instance, about her new album: this time its not as wordy as it has been. That was another experiment - -- how many words could I get in line -- then Paul Simon started doing that when I heard that I thought "this is a bad idea". Woe be to the imitators. I wonder if the last sentence was really hers and not the journalist's. She also mentions, about her work, that I wasn't ready for retirement, for gardening and watching old movies, which is basically what I'd been doing for ten years... I agree with Kakki that it sounds like someone who has been going through a bad time. But I like her defiance, and in some sense her arrogance as well. I wonder how these things would have come across if they had come from a man? Hmm... I would have said more, but there's too much! For those who haven't read the interview, here is a quote which I guess she'd want us to think about: Ever since I saw those pictures of North America at night I turn lights off at night. All that energy is sucking from nature, the man-made has taken over the natural world. All over the globe war is accelerating, we need that energy diverted into saving the planet, while the planet is trying to shake us off its back. It is our host and we are this bacteria, this infection. We insist on wounding it more and more. War is ridiculous at this time and then to add insult to injury by calling it a holy war is just obscene, ignorant and tragic. Well said ma'am. Bn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:35:12 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Word article This isn't nearly as grumpy as I'd been led to believe by reading people's posts here. Or maybe I'm as grumpy as Joni is. I agree with her that calling the current war a holy war is "just obscene and ignorant and tragic." And I agree with her critical assessment of "an American culture that says once you are past first year of college you shouldn't be worrying about the world. You are supposed to grow up and go with the programme." I found this to be one of the most informative of recent interviews, and I was very interested in her working methods. Richard - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Les Irvin Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 1:34 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: Word article missblux wrote: >Well so I promised Katherine to scan the >Word article yesterday but got delayed London Les has graciously scanned this article. It's currently being typed for the Library but if you can't wait, you can read it here: http://jmdl.com/library/typing/2007-04Word.pdf Thanks Les! The other Les ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:39:17 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) Ginkgo helps this. From: > My ears have > that nice little Pete Townshend ring in them right now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:42:11 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) Eh? What did you say? Actually they're all better now, but thanks for the advice. Anyway, I already have car insurance. Bob NP: Steely Dan, "Kid Charlemagne" PS: My own personal "Pete Townshend Award" for loudest concert ever was The Romantics at the (now-defunct) Switch in Raleigh. My ears were still whistling 48 hours later. They were REALLY loud and it was a REALLY small club. I guess I should get a pair of earplugs for future shows. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:08:01 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Another bloody list njc I would peg the birthday thing at age 7, myself. 10. There comes a time when you should stop expecting other people to make a big deal about your birthday. That time is age 11. 22. No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously. 23. When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take command. Very often, that individual is crazy. I can't quite figure out why that rings a bell......... > Some of these lists are fun, some are rubbish; I like this one a lot. I > have no idea who Dave Barry is, but he's on to something. > > http://www.piffe.com/jokes/25things.phtml > > Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:28:16 -0600 From: Robert Procyk Subject: tv shows njc I actually received seasons one and two of Family for Christmas. My wife was all "what in the hell is this" at first, and then she got into it. I didn't realize that Meredith Baxter wasn't in season one - her character was played by someone else. And I completely forgot how some 70s shows were so issues oriented. I'm just waiting anxiously for Maude to hit dvd, which pushed the envelope in every way - although when Maude had an abortion, she had to be 100 years old, so that was kind of funny. And Helen my dear, you brought back memories when you mentioned Apple's Way! I must have been about 4 when it was on, and I don't remember anything other than some water wheel thingy at the beginning, but I loved it when I was small. I wonder if you can find James at 15/16 out there? TGIF Rob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:33:11 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) Yeah-Allmans w/Duane Gooood!! They have a remastered "Eat a Peach" with an extra disc with an unreleased Fillmore show which I haven't heard, but can recommend "American University 12-13-70", a bargain for 8 bucks on Amazon. RR > pick up some rock 'n roll. What I found was totally smoking! It's > the Allman Brothers Live at the Atlanta International Pop Festival > July 3-5, 1970. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:50:24 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: TV shows, njc My so called life." I liked that show. Anyone seen it? - ------------------------------- Oh, I've seen it! I used to watch it when it aired! Is it available on DVD? I don't think I've seen it in stores or maybe I just never really looked. I really liked the song the boy (Jared Leto) the redhead girl (Claire Danes, I can't remember the character's name!) wrote.....the one she thought was about her because it was called "red" and said such lovely things. Turns out it was about his car! Perfect! - -Monika


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:05:05 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Joni Complete on ebay The Joni Complete songbook is up on ebay again. Bidding is up to $56.75. I think I'll wait till it's revised and released again.....whenever that is. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=130085953670&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:12 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:57:49 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) > > > Eh? What did you say? > Actually they're all better now, but thanks for the advice. Anyway, I > already have car insurance. > > Bob Yeah, but them lizards is so cute! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:20:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: TV shows, njc Was one of my favorites. MTV used to have MSCL marathons and I'd lock the doors and turn off the phones. Jerry Motitan@aol.com wrote: > My so called life." > > I liked that show. > > Anyone seen it? > ------------------------------- > Oh, I've seen it! I used to watch it when it aired! Is it available on > DVD? I don't think I've seen it in stores or maybe I just never really > looked. > I really liked the song the boy (Jared Leto) the redhead girl (Claire > Danes, > I can't remember the character's name!) wrote.....the one she thought was > about her because it was called "red" and said such lovely things. Turns > out > it was about his car! Perfect! > -Monika >


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AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:27:32 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Word article Thanks for that, Leses- She could talk like a fool, I'd listen. Did you see, lower on the cover, a feature "100 Years of Bitching"? Interesting about her tangle with the gov't over not having a producer. What the heck? RR > London Les has graciously scanned this article. It's currently being > typed > for the Library but if you can't wait, you can read it here: > http://jmdl.com/library/typing/2007-04Word.pdf > > Thanks Les! > The other Les ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:11:47 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Word article Interesting read, thanks Lesb I like the way she talks. Victor NP: John Coltrane Slow Dance On Mar 9, 2007, at 4:27 PM, Randy Remote wrote: > Thanks for that, Leses- > She could talk like a fool, I'd listen. > Did you see, lower on the cover, a feature > "100 Years of Bitching"? > Interesting about her tangle with the gov't over > not having a producer. What the heck? > RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:23:58 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Word article It looks like I said thanks Lesb(ian) but it actually read Les (squared) but when the plain text converted the 2 into a b. Computers are funny. Victor NP: John Coltrane Lush Life On Mar 9, 2007, at 5:11 PM, Victor Johnson wrote: > Interesting read, thanks Lesb > > I like the way she talks. > > Victor > > NP: John Coltrane Slow Dance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:25:03 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: tv shows njc I think we just THINK Maude was 100 years old! She was probably in her mid 40's. But having been much much younger back then, we thought she was ancient. You think?? Its wierd to realize, I'm as old as Florida and Maude maybe. Maybe even Edith and Archie! How old were Edith and Archie?? I'm 47. But I feel younger than they were. Strange...perceptions.... Em - --- Robert Procyk wrote: > I actually received seasons one and two of Family for Christmas. My > wife was all "what in the hell is this" at first, and then she got > into it. I didn't realize that Meredith Baxter wasn't in season one > - her character was played by someone else. And I completely forgot > how some 70s shows were so issues oriented. I'm just waiting > anxiously for Maude to hit dvd, which pushed the envelope in every > way - although when Maude had an abortion, she had to be 100 years > old, so that was kind of funny. > And Helen my dear, you brought back memories when you mentioned > Apple's Way! I must have been about 4 when it was on, and I don't > remember anything other than some water wheel thingy at the > beginning, but I loved it when I was small. > I wonder if you can find James at 15/16 out there? > TGIF > Rob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:14:14 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) anybody heard their old "Morning Dew"? I think its my all time fave "Morning Dew". from some kind of old demo that I have on vinyl. Sweet Greg content, organ and vocals and pretty psychedelic. Real old. Em - --- Randy Remote wrote: > Yeah-Allmans w/Duane Gooood!! > They have a remastered "Eat a Peach" with an extra disc > with an unreleased Fillmore show which I haven't heard, > but can recommend "American University 12-13-70", > a bargain for 8 bucks on Amazon. > RR > > > pick up some rock 'n roll. What I found was totally smoking! It's > > > the Allman Brothers Live at the Atlanta International Pop Festival > > > July 3-5, 1970. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:34:19 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Word article Hmm, I haven't read it in its entirety. I plan to when it's put in the JMDL library. I appreciate the scanning---the pictures were nice, and I skimmed some of it but I couldn't read the writing on the black page at all so I decided not to try and read it fully until I could see it properly. It sounds interesting from what you all have said. See, I may be young but my eyesight still sucks! - -Monika


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:42:07 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: AUDIO CDs of Canadian Sonwriters Hall of Fame induction and Both Sides Now radio broadcast Dr. Katherine wrote: >Thank you Jill. Yesterday I received the 3 JMDL master CDs (CBC Both Sides >Now 1 & 2 and Songwriters Hall of Fame)! They will be ready to ship again >on Monday so the first person to write me off-list with their mailing >address will be the lucky jmdler. These cds arrived today and I have copied them and I'm ready to pass them along to the next jmdler who emails me offlist with a mailing address. I'm expecting the VIDEO DVD of the CBC broadcast of the Induction ceremony to arrive next week from Michael in Quebec. I've got a sleeve of 50 dvd+r blanks that I want to use for this recording, so email me with a mailing address if you'd like one of these copies. Michael, thank you for recording this broadcast. I will return your original dvd in pristine condition after I burn the copies. Have a good weekend everyone. Brian nw: 'Philly's Favorite Kids Show Hosts' on WHYY-TV (featuring clips of people like Sally Starr, Pixanne, Chief Halftown, Uncle Pete Boyle, Wee Willy Weber, Gene London, and Dr Shock) - ----------------------------------------------------------- Politicians and diapers both need to be changed often. And usually for the same reasons. - ----------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:44:00 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: AUDIO CDs of Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame induction and Both Sides Now radio broadcast - --- I wrote: > Dr. Katherine wrote: > >Thank you Jill. Yesterday I received the 3 JMDL master CDs (CBC Both Sides > >Now 1 & 2 and Songwriters Hall of Fame)! They will be ready to ship again > >on Monday so the first person to write me off-list with their mailing > >address will be the lucky jmdler. > > These cds arrived today and I have copied them and I'm ready to pass them > along > to the next jmdler who emails me offlist with a mailing address. The audio cds are going to Victor on Monday. Brian - ----------------------------------------------------------- Politicians and diapers both need to be changed often. And usually for the same reasons. - ----------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:50:32 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: LOST and Jethro Tull (njc) I think I accidentally found a link between LOST and Jethro Tull (which isn't too surprising as the writers seem to have references galore to books, films, and philosophers) but anyway, my ipod was on shuffle and brought up "Slipstream" from Aqualung. A short song, but when the end came with the kind of weird spooky sound, I thought, this sounds just like on LOST when they bring the logo up at the beginning of each episode, then I read the lyrics and it seems to go right along with the show. Freaky....look forward to playing this song with PAZ sometime soon, maybe in May...:) l Slipstream - from Jethro Tull "Aqualung" Well the lush separation unfolds you -- And the products of wealth Push you along on the bow wave Of the spiritless undying selves. And you press on gods waiter your last dime -- As he hands you the bill. And you spin in the slipstream -- Timeless -- unreasoning -- Paddle right out of the mess. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 19:49:24 +1100 From: "don whiteman" Subject: Re: and guitars of yours Well I have been paying and collecting for many years. Current stable is 2003 Martin D42, 1987 Martin D18, Martin LXM (for travelling), 1980 Maton CW80(Aussie handmade) Dreadnought, 57 Reissue Strat, 1986 Ibanez Artist Solid body, 1988 Yamaha nylon String, Mid Missouri Mandolin (from Mandolin Bros), Deering B6 6string Banjitar, Mahalo Uke, Sitar, Dan bo (single string Vietnamese Instrument) , Dan Trahn (16 string Vietnamese Instrument), Fender Rhodes 77 piano, a box full of percussion bits and a box full of harps. I use a Genz Benz Shenandoh Acoustic Amp and Rode NT1A, SM57 and SM58 mikes. My wife keeps asking where am I going to put it every time I by a new imstument. Thing is I play every day. Don in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:17:36 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Brad Delp RIP (njc) May you have peaceful journey. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:19:11 -0800 From: Subject: Fw: Joni's voice/Word article Thanks to Les R. for transcribing part of the article and Azeem for some highlights. There are some new and interesting insights on the vocal problems. I always suspected the vocal chords had been damaged or somewhat "blown out" over the years from various strains, misuse or overuse and also suspected that the post-polio syndrome was affecting her. Now, the partial digestive problems, I can't imagine how that comes in! Hiatal hernia? But the joint and bone structure degeneration that can often affect women, and especially someone with neurological and muscular damage from polio, could most definitely throw all kinds of areas out of "alignment." It's good to hear that maybe she is getting some enlightened treatment these days and I hope it helps her. Blaming the smoking for everything just never washed with me. There are so many incredible female and male singers in every genre who smoked all through their career. The smoking can also give one more range, but I'm not trying to advocate that. Plus, look at all the singers we know who smoked lots of other substances over the years and still have their voice ;-) It's kind of like blaming North America for all the pollution on the planet when all scientific studies and other easily observable phenomena (such as looking at satellite maps with the naked eye) clearly and dramatically show that the developing industrial countries of China and India, to name a few, are leaving the biggest and baddest "carbon footprint." But it's chic to blame North America just like it's chic to blame smoking (or currently George Bush) for every ill known to man. Even Joni's doing it now! Oy! LOL Wishing I had an island I could skate away to, sometimes. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:26:05 -0800 From: Subject: Re: The Word article Bene, I kind of have an opposite take. I really am not bothered by any arrogance or whining or grumpiness that may come across in Joni's interviews. Well, maybe except for her going over the same particular complaints, over and over forever - it's true that is not a good place to be. What troubles me a bit is her sometimes facile or perhaps not well thought out pronouncements on the state of the world. I always thought she was so much more intelligent and focused than that but maybe I was projecting something on her that wasn't all there. Some of the portions of the article you provided made me shake my head and wonder. Such as: > Ever since I saw those pictures of North America at night I turn > lights off at night. All that energy is sucking from nature, the > man-made has taken over the natural world. Why single out North America? Most of us have seen those Google night time satellite photos. The entire world has and uses electricity to light up the night. We've read for years that Joni stays up all night and sleeps by day. Does she paint, eat and clean her house by candlelight or a propane lantern? Does she have solar generated power? Why not - she could afford it. Why not offer more of an example other than saying she turns off her lights at night. She also had a nice big SUV last I knew (maybe she has gone to a hybrid now, however). She should also at least note that her electricity in Calfornia is coming from many green friendly sources besides fossil fuel. We get a significant blend from bio, geothermal, hydro, nuclear and wind power in addition to oil. And "man," like it or not is PART of the natural world and always has been! > All over the globe war is accelerating, we need that energy diverted > into saving the planet, while the planet is trying to shake us off its > back. It is our host and we are this bacteria, this infection. We > insist on wounding it more and more. Sure, man has wounded the world but she acts like this is happening on some catastrophic scale. Natural disasters, meteors, asteroids, fire, solar flares, volcanos, earthquakes, hurricanes and the like have always "wounded" and affected the world to a far, far greater extent than "man." > War is ridiculous at this time and then to add insult to injury by > calling it a holy war is just obscene, ignorant and tragic. Yes, it is and always has been. In another part of the interview she talks about the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco where she spoke a couple years ago (I was there). She describes the club as "one of those groups of very wealthy people who buy presidents, the power behind the throne." While there may indeed be some groups that one might reasonably describe as such, I think she is way off on this one. The San Francisco jmdlers can correct me if I am wrong, but to me, it seemed like a sort of Toastmasters Club/upscale "Speakers Bureau" for all kinds of notables from every walk of life and every country. She misses the mark in making such a gratuitous comment about an organization that invited her to speak. I feel bad about being critical of Joni but I expect so much more from her than this kind of discourse. Maybe that is wrong of me and uncharitable. I struggle. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 22:50:12 -0700 From: Bruce Eggleston Subject: Re: Joni's Parker, and guitars of yours I love to talk about guitars. I have some nice photos of Joni playing one of her Parkers at the Gorge at George, Washington concert Sunday May 17, 1998 (playing second with Mr. Dylan opening and Mr. Morrison closing). Her outfit matched the guitar. The guitar, a medium brown, Joni, a fawn-colored pants-suit. She played real good for some hefty dough. I imagine it took most of the money to unscrew Van's porkpie hat offen his haid. If any of you would like a scan of the Joni at the Gorge photo, please let me know and I'll send it along (with love, from me to you). I also got photos of Van's porkpie hat bobbin' above the amplifier behind which he hid for most the show. No photos of Bobin, he banned 'em. Bobman did play a real fine 3- burst Fender Stratocaster very well. It was one of his guitar-slinger shows and Mr. Dylan played some righteous lead on that purty Strat. My collection of fine Fender instruments are all gifts from my lovely and creative bride. The first she bought me for our 25th wedding anniversary July 10, 2001. It is a inordinately cool Fender Stratocaster 50's Classic model in the inestimably subtle Surf Green finish with a "bread and milk" purloid pickguard. As you guitarist know, these temperamental instruments need companionship. My famously kind wife then bought me a 1972 Fender Thinline Telecaster and! a 1969 Fender Thinline Telecaster, each in the tantalizingly exquisite Surf Green finish. These are all reissues of those venerable models and fine craftsmanship shows through on all three of them. They are beautiful to the eye and the ear. You note a trend? Yes, you are deductively tuned, I do freely abuse adjectives! Oh, you may also say that I also admire Fender guitars in the fetching and ethereal hue of the foamy crest of a clean wave breaking on the West Coast just before sunset as the tide rises to meet the moon. Surf Green is a perfect color for a twangy guitar born near the west coast of These United States. Well done, Leo! Then I was even more deserving, so my gorgeous and brilliant wife got me a spectacular Fender 12-string Stratocaster, a very recent design crafted in Japan, land of the Shell Pink sunrise surf. This magnificent instrument is finished in the traditional 3-colored sunburst which graced the first Stratocasters in 1955. This instrument is so fine, in both tone and style, that my pickin' buddies called it Guitar Porn. It makes you wanna shout, and it makes your big toe shoot straight up in your boot, in the immortal words of Little Richard. The real prize is a an almost urban-fable-worthy yard sale find. I paid $70, talked him down from $80, for a 1946 Fender Princeton lap steel six-string guitar. The thing plays like a fiend and it is in good shape. It came in an appropriately funky case from the period, thermometer-shaped with fuzzy medium blue liner. It would easily sell for ten times the price. It has one of the most soulful and rockabilly tones I have ever heard. Pure slide guitar magic. I also have Mother-0f-Toilet-Seat brown Supro lap steel that my mother acquired during the Hawaiian Guitar craze of the late 40s. It, too plays pure slide magic. I also am blessed with a Fender Jazz bass, in the three-tone burst of the 12-string Strat, and a free Yamaha acoustic with a bowed neck suitable for slide. I play all these lovelies through a small Fender Blues Jr. all-tube amplifier that fits with these fine instruments like a growl to a grizzly bear, just perfect. That was fun, Bonneville Bruce Strummin' and a slidin' on the Sunnyslope, Idaho ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #105 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------