From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #104 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, March 9 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 104 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- re: joni's voice (from Word magazine) ["Ross, Les" ] Joni in Oz [Mark-Leon Thorne ] NJC TV [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: Joni's Voice ["Azeem Ali Khan" ] Re: Joni in Oz [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni question [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Joni in Oz [Victor Johnson ] Re: NJC TV [Victor Johnson ] Re: Joni question [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC TV [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: TV Shows (njc) [Michael Paz ] Re: Joni's guitars & equipment [Michael Paz ] Re: On the Road (njc) [Victor Johnson ] Re: On the Road (njc) [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Joni's Voice ["anon anon" ] Re: TV Shows NJC & Elvis Costello [Susan Guzzi ] Melanie (NJC) [Gary Z ] The Great Music Experience [JLoehr4988@aol.com] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20RE=3A=20Joni=20question=0D?= ["=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESL] Re: Joni's guitars & equipment ["mike pritchard" ] Re: TV Shows NJC & Elvis Costello ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Joni's guitars & equipment ["Randy Remote" ] TV Shows NJC & Elvis Costello ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: TV shows NJC ["Azeem Ali Khan" ] Re: TV Shows NJC & Elvis Costello [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: TV shows NJC [Les Irvin ] Re: TV Shows NJC [hell@ihug.co.nz] RE: TV shows NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: TV shows NJC [hell@ihug.co.nz] The Definitive 200 Albums list..... [Motitan@aol.com] re: And guitars of yours NJC ["mia _" ] Allmans w/Duane (njc) [Victor Johnson ] Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) [Michael Paz ] Re: And guitars of yours NJC [Michael Paz ] njc, Human Peace Symbol in Boston this Saturday ["Patti Parlette" Subject: re: joni's voice (from Word magazine) From: Subject: Joni's Voice I'm on digest so maybe the question has been answered but I would also love to know what was determined in the article. Azeem, please let us know if you haven't already. I have always had my take on why and it did not have to do with her smoking. It's somewhat trivial but I am interested in what was said. me: sorry if this has been responded to already. i'm on digest too but here goes. question: on your last recordings your voice had lost a lot of its range joni: l had lost some of my voice. it was severe. i'd go to hit a note and there was nothing there. i used to have three octaves and people blamed it on my smoking. i went to a throat specialist who assured me it wasn't and said it had to do with my digestion partially. i also had nodes from singing rock and roll. i went to do this lecture on how to instal a love of nature on earth day in san francisco to the commonwealth club - which is one of those groups of very wealthy people who buy presidents, the power behind the throne. i was a bit nervous as what i was going to say was going to be more than slightly unorthodox, critical of the western mind in general and pyshology in particular. they sent me a masseuse, who turned out also to be a chiropractor, as a gift. after she worked on me she said "are you having trouble singing? No wonder, you're lanynx is compressed." she gave me a styrofoam block to realign my spine that had been damaged from polio and as it had gotten worse my neck was pokey. i'd had it straightened out by a chinese healer who had regenerated my back so the nerves came back to life. neil young, who caught polio etc etc. he went the western way and..metal pole...thousands of dollars blah blah...bad idea as this chinese guy regenerates the nerves in my back for 200 dollars. he gave me some exercises to maintain my joints, i have been doing them for a couple of years which put my shoulders back. one shoulder was out from playing acoustic guitar - it took me about two years to stop it rubbing the socket. as everything went back some of my high end came back. i am singing well on this album. certainly better than on the last two. people always like to blame it on my smoking. i have smoked since was nine so it obviously didn't affect the early work that much. my voice isn't completely back as my sinuses are screwed up. maybe that is from smoking./... or the LA air. i have progressed as a singer, my stroke is better, my phrasing is better. i have learned a lot. i am closer to the singers i really love. i never imagined i'd be able to sing like edith piaf. leslondon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:45:14 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Joni in Oz Hi all. Does anyone know if there are any recordings (video or audio) of Joni's only tour of Australia? ...and no Voctor, I'm not looking for any video of "boxing kangaroos". Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:28:28 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC TV At last someone mentioned Six Feet Under! As far as I am concerned it's the best show there ever was. But then I lived in Austria and didn't watch TV when they showed Twin Peaks, and I lived in Lithuania and didn't watch TV when they showed Lars von Trier's Kingdom back home. Don't know if anyone knows the last one. It cleared the streets in DK. But surely, some of you'd have 6fu on your list??? Bene ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:25:21 +0000 From: "Azeem Ali Khan" Subject: Re: Joni's Voice Hi Kakki, Good old Les has answered this one now - I'm assuming you typed it all out, nice one Les! Not only is it a fascinating account of the problems she's had with the voice, but it's also one of the few sections of the interview where she isn't mithering or blowing her own trumpet. The reason I don't want to quote is because it would by definition be quoting out of context; also, it wasn't any single example that bugged me, more the accumulation of whining. As one of the lucky people to have met Joni in person, I'll always remember how gracious she was, to offset the impression this new interview gives of an embittered old grouch. I do think she's getting lost in this world of hers, and seems to have lost sight of one possible reason that her later work hasn't been that successful. She blames the critics for not supporting it and the record companies for not promoting it, and journalists for misquoting and pigeonholing her; she might point the finger at herself for inflicting sludge like Dancing Clown, Reoccurring Dream, the Windfall and Number One (and I fear there are others...) on us - these are not just crummy songs by her previously stratospheric standards, they're crummy by any standards. The danger of this new record is that she's proclaiming it as (and fair enough, this is my spin on it) "Joni Mitchell descends from her lofty perch to sort out the problems of the world" - that's a lot to live up to! Les, did you have anything like the reaction to this interview that I did? Or anyone else who's read it? Azeem in London NP: Pulp - Wickerman (a little slice of lyrical genius) On 3/8/07, kbhla@fastmail.fm wrote: > > I'm on digest so maybe the question has been answered but I would also > love > to know what was determined in the article. Azeem, please let us know if > you > haven't already. I have always had my take on why and it did not have to > do > with her smoking. It's somewhat trivial but I am interested in what was > said. > > And Azeem, I know you have been here long enough to know I was always one > of > Joni's big defenders with regard to articles that may have portrayed her > wrongly. Indeed, I used to be flamed as being a "sycophant" and worse > when it > came to defending her. However, I have come to think that she is becoming > eccentric, to say the least. Maybe those who saw it a while back were > right. > That doesn't diminish my love and admiration for her, but she has been > worrying me a bit lately. Just an observation and ultimately doesn't > change > my respect for her. I just worry a bit. > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 03:38:03 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni in Oz Yes - her '83 show in Sydney is in circulation...good show, good quality. A 2-CD set, like almost all of those 2-hour '83 shows. (I'll throw it in the stack). Bob NP: New Arcade Fire - --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:05:52 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni question Bob wrote: > Before singing her next song, > Joni chastised the crowd by saying "Save the bombs for later. I'm not that > bad, you dig? Quit pitching shit up here!" > Hi Bob, I hadn't heard this quote. Thanks for it. I love her phrasing as usual... it sounds like it could be a line in a song. Some people in that crowd obviously missed the point of the concert to benefit Amnesty International. Love, Laura ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:22:29 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Joni in Oz If you didn't like that reference, if it "offended" you so much, why are you bringing it up? Talk about never letting up....geesh Victor On Mar 8, 2007, at 3:45 AM, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > Hi all. Does anyone know if there are any recordings (video or > audio) of Joni's only tour of Australia? > > ...and no Voctor, I'm not looking for any video of "boxing kangaroos". > > Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:27:35 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: NJC TV I have it on my list of good restaurants in Atlanta. It's across from a graveyard if you can believe that. They make a good Bloody Mary and the food is awesome as well. Victor On Mar 8, 2007, at 4:28 AM, missblux@googlemail.com wrot > > But surely, some of you'd have 6fu on your list??? > > Bene ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:33:48 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni question < I love her phrasing as usual... it sounds like it could be a line in a song.> Yeah, it reminds me of "You've seen too many movies Joni....she said 'snap out of it!" Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "Chemistry Class" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:07:02 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: NJC TV Well somehow the view should inspire people to seize the day and enjoy life huh. I really love that show. The characters are so intricate, Brenda and the mother in particular. Bn On 3/8/07, Victor Johnson wrote: > > I have it on my list of good restaurants in Atlanta. It's across > from a graveyard if you can believe that. They make a good Bloody > Mary and the food is awesome as well. > > Victor > > > > > On Mar 8, 2007, at 4:28 AM, missblux@googlemail.com wrot > > > > > But surely, some of you'd have 6fu on your list??? > > > > Bene ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:05:30 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: TV Shows (njc) Yes I am a 24 junkie and I love sharing my drug. I alos like watching Idol with the kids. I have enjoyed watching House but am growing weary of him. Being on the road I don't get to watch much of anything other than the weather channel and news. Paz On Mar 8, 2007, at 12:52 AM, wrote: I have not watched TV regularly for about 30 years. Mainly because I have not had the time to get into it. And I only have basic cable and not all the good stuff. But when I do have the odd speck of time, it is: Antiques Road Show (keep looking to score) Trading Spaces (I am a frustrated Interior Designer) VH-1 (the stories (exposes) about all the colorful musicians) (Rarely) Lost - I like that it is shot in Hawaii and is good weird Dancing With The Stars (yeah, a reality show, but it is good even if you don't want to admit it) Iron Chef and most of the other cooking shows (love it!) Bits of Travel Channel and Animal Planet (I am a nerd at heart) All Cable News shows both left wing and right wing (reality freak and an opportunity to vent after a long day ;-) On the horizon: 24 - Paz got me into it on his last visit. I could get hooked. Kiefer hangs in my neighborhood, too, so maybe I should join the fan club. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:07:54 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni's guitars & equipment That was Anita and Steph who are the lucky ones. I played it and loved it. Joan had really heavy gauge stings on it which I like as well and probably helped her with the tunings. My Parker Concert Fly (with only a piezo pickup weighs only 2.2 lbs. My Deluxe fly has magnetic pick ups on it as well and weighs about 3.5 lbs. I also thought it was Fred Walecki that turned Joan on to the VG-8. Best Paz On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:53 PM, Randy Remote wrote: (the following has not been checked for accuracy- correct as neccesary) I don't think all that info has been assembled in one place- it's scarcely discussed-but from memory a few things: Richard says Martin D-28's, and I have no reason to think otherwise. Before she went electric, she would have several of them onstage in different tunings. Before that, she would retune! I think I have seen her playing a Gibson acoustic (maybe?) in an old picture, and her first instrument was a Martin ukelele. And there are photos of her with a Strat-but her main electric in the Shadows & Light era was the hollowbody Ibanez George Benson model, again she had 3 or 4 (?). A couple of them had come up for sale a few years back, and someone on the list got one and brought it to Jonifest-forgive me for forgetting names, I wasn't there-but people got to play & admire it. Joni claims to have been given one of the first phase shifters, and says that Jaco immediately took it from her! Or maybe it was a Roland stereo amp with phase built in, in any case, I suppose she got another, and used it to thicken up her sound. After the Ibanez came the Parker Fly and the G-8 (right?) Roland system that allows virtual tuning- that is, hit a footswitch, change the tuning without ever touching the strings. This synth/modeling system is what you hear on Taming the Tiger, was introduced to her by Graham Nash, and again members of this list own this system and it's predecessor and have Jonifested with it. Joni went to the Parker Fly electric because it's a super lightweight model, under 5 lbs, and she was having back pain from the heavier guitars. A "Joni Gear" database would be nice. Besides guitars, there is the JoEllen dulcimer, Fender Rhodes piano on Woodstock, Farfisa, Fairlight keyboards, AYKTMBM... RR From: > I was wondering if there was a list of all the guitars Joni has > used and all > the amps she has used? Or perhaps a website that would lead me > the right > way...or an interview with her discussing her setup. I've seen > her with > Martins as far as acoustic goes but what models has she used? And > then when she > has plugged in, what electric guitars does she use? I always need > to know what > equipment guitar players have! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:18:54 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: On the Road (njc) I checked out the resort you guys are playing at in Florida. Looks pretty nice, 74 degrees. I hope you have some time to relax, drink a couple martinis, jump in the pool... Victor NP: Boortz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:36:44 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: On the Road (njc) 80 degrees here in St. Petersburg. Gorgeous. But we who live here also work so no martini's and pool until the weekend :) Jerry > I checked out the resort you guys are playing at in Florida. Looks > pretty nice, 74 degrees. I hope you have some time to relax, drink a > couple martinis, jump in the pool... > > Victor > > NP: Boortz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:41:39 -0500 From: "anon anon" Subject: Re: Joni's Voice , but it's also one of the few sections of the interview >where she isn't mithering or blowing her own trumpet. The reason I don't >want to quote is because it would by definition be quoting out of context; >also, it wasn't any single example that bugged me, more the accumulation of >whining. That is one of the things about Joni's interviews that irritate me a bit sometimes... It would be fine if she talked about how awful the record companies are, how unappreciated her gigantic talent is, how much current pop music is garbage etc... But does she have to talk about these subjects SO OFTEN??? We get the point, Joni, now PLEASE move on!!! _________________________________________________________________ Find what you need at prices youll love. Compare products and save at MSN. Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:11:00 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: TV Shows NJC & Elvis Costello IF it was "Family" - Sada Thompson played the mother (a great stage actress for the most part). The dad was played by Matthew Broderick's real life father - James Broderick ... and the brother was played by an actor - Gary Frank - I believe. Now I just wanted to show that I still do have a memory - even if I am an old lady! Peace, Susan Gary Z wrote: Hi Patti and all, You mentioned the show was about a family....was it "Family?" :-) But I think that was in the late '70s. The only person I really remember that was in it was Kristy McNichol, and I only remember her because she was a customer of the answering service I worked for when I lived in Los Angeles many dim years ago. I also met Carole Ita White, who was Big Rosie Greenbaum on Laverne and Shirley, from working at that answering service!! RE: TV Current: Desperate Housewives - Yeah, I like it it's fun. Ugly Betty - Yes, the best show on TV right now. It's very well done IMO. Grey's Anatomy - I like it, but lately it's been getting on my nerves! ;-) VH1 Classic - Love the older performances. Older: Six Feet Under - I have 'em all, but I'll still stop and watch the re-runs on Bravo (though way cleaned up from the originals). Sex and the City - Another one I like to escape with - I think it has a lot to do with the fact that it takes place in New York City. Oz - Just got caught up in this show. Northern Exposure - When this was on, I wanted so badly to move to Alaska, even though it was filmed in Washington State. I LOVED this show, and was so furious when a mistake was made in the history of a character, that I called their offices to complain, not that it did any good, LOL. . Laverne & Shirley - I LOVED this show - I can't explain it. Maybe it was humor and a message too. I even named my two late cats after them. Mama's Family - Vicki Lawrence is a gem on this show - the first season was just released on DVD. Are You Being Served - Great show, I love British humor; Bless Me Father was a good one too. And point of interest, The Flying Nun had a character who was a latino nun and a comrade of Sister Bertrille (Sally Field) who had trouble getting her slang right. Her name was Sister Sixto and she was played by none other Shelley Morrison who has had a successful run as Rosario on Will and Grace. So there are some of mine. Am enjoying hearing about what people are watching! Best regards, Gary Z. Detroit P.S. Richard, I'm glad you came out of the PP&M closet! I have everything up to the most recent releases too. They're really something when you crank them up on the machine, right? I love the fact that they kept the separation the same on the CDs as it was on the vinyl versions. It really sounds like all three of them (plus the bass player) are standing around you if you separate the speakers adequately! And Jerry, I love Album 1700. Love "Rolling Home" and "The Song Is Love" to name just two. Best regards, Gary Z. Detroit Patti Parlette wrote: > A question (LOL, Monika, you are contagious!): > > There was a show in the 80s, I think, that I really liked. It wasn't > on for long. I think it was about a family (oh yeah, that's > original!) but the main thing I remember about it and liked about it > was that they played Elvis Costello's (I can see Muller's ears perking > up!) "Accidents Can Happen." I don't know if it was the theme song, > or they just played it a lot, but that's when I got turned on to Elvis > Costello. > > Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Maybe I dreamt it, I don't > know. > > xo, > > pp > > _________________________________________________________________ > The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by > Experian. > http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE - --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 11:39:44 -0500 From: Gary Z Subject: Melanie (NJC) I know there are a few Melanie fans on the list. Looks like they've finally gotten around to re-releasing some of her older releases on import CDs, in particular a 2 on 1 CD of "The Good Book" and "Gather Me" as well as "Candles in the Rain" and "Leftover Wine." If interested, you can check out this link: http://www.cduniverse.com/sresult.asp?style=music&HT_SEARCH=XARTIST&cart=497837248&HT_SEARCH_INFO=Melanie&HT_Search_Name=Melanie&altsearch=yes Best regards, Gary Z. Detroit ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:11:46 EST From: JLoehr4988@aol.com Subject: The Great Music Experience Hi Everyone....haven't posted in a while, not since the last 'Who is Coyote' thread..!! Anyway, I haven't seen it mentioned, maybe it has, but have you all seen the beautiful live recordings of Joni at The Great Music Experience in Japan 1994 posted on youtube in the past two weeks? REALLY NICE! I think it may be post-Klein era, at least it sounds that way to me. Accompanied by Wayne Shorter, her voice, everything about her seems in top form! A real treat!! Best regards....judy


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:58:03 -0800 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20RE=3A=20Joni=20question=0D?= i totally agree. something about her determination, focus and brillance in an uncomfortable situation. topanga lesli - -------- Original Message ------------- Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:00:36 -0800 From: Les Irvin To: Subject: RE: Joni question >Bob wrote re Conspiracy of Hope: > >>No I don't - that is a pretty forgettable performance > >>because it was so awful. I'm sure Joni has tried to > >>block it out of her mind as well. > > > >Joni's performance of "Number One" at this event is one of my all-time >favorite performances of hers. > > > >So there. > > > >Les ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:30:08 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Joni's guitars & equipment ..>>(the following has not been checked for accuracy, correct as necessary) After the Ibanez came the Parker Fly and the G-8 (right?)<< Correction; I think you mean the VG-8, which is designed to destroy music; the G8 is designed to destroy the world. mike in jest np I remember april ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:32:21 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: TV Shows NJC & Elvis Costello I think Costello wrote some songs, maybe just the theme tune, that were used in 'Skully', a tv series based in Costello's home town - Liverpool. mike in bcn np - Coltrane - Naima ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:44:17 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Joni's guitars & equipment From: "Michael Paz" > That was Anita and Steph who are the lucky ones. I played it and > loved it. Joan had really heavy gauge stings on it which I like as > well and probably helped her with the tunings. And didn't hurt the tone, none, either! Now I feel like a wimp with my super slinkys. > I also > thought it was Fred Walecki that turned Joan on to the VG-8. Well, I might be repeating my own rumour, here, but I think I got it from the Roland User's Group magazine, which had a cover story on Joni back in '97. Nash had a prototype at his house and realized it would be perfect for her. She started using the VG-8 with a Strat before getting the Parker (from Walecki?). Correction to my earlier post-I think it was the Stereo Chorus that she recieved (and Jaco borrowed), not a phaser as those had been around for some time. Extracurricular activity: Listen to the song "Tiger Bones" from TTT- the VG-8 in action, with the 3 bass strings in the left channel, and the 3 treble strings on the right, and some excellent pickin'. RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:40:32 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: TV Shows NJC & Elvis Costello Dear Gary Z. wrote in part: You mentioned the show was about a family....was it "Family?" :-) But I think that was in the late '70s. The only person I really remember that was in it was Kristy McNichol, and I only remember her because she was a customer of the answering service I worked for when I lived in Los Angeles many dim years ago. I also met Carole Ita White, who was Big Rosie Greenbaum on Laverne and Shirley, from working at that answering service!! **** Thanks Gary, but nope, it wasn't "Family" I was thinking of. But I do remember watching that one! I recall Sada Thompson being like the "Mother Knows Best" all the time, and Kristy McNichol (Buddy!) and Meredith Baxter Birney (I always thought she was so pretty). That was a good show...here's a picture of them: http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/F/htmlF/family/family.htm And I'm glad you mentioned Laverne and Shirley. I know you loved that one. "One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight! Schlemiel! Schlemazl! Hasenpfeffer Incorporated!" Makes me smile. You, too? And how could we not mention the ground-breaking, award-winning "All in the Family" with Archie, Edith (lol....EEEE-DIT...remember the German butcher?), Gloria and good ole Meathead. "Those were the days..." That show may have been one of the first to expose the ugliness of bigotry. One eye-opening TV experience for me was a four-part (I think) miniseries about the Holocaust in the late 70s. Meryl Streep and James Woods were in it, and it was the first time I really saw and felt the horror of it all, and how recent it really was. It had a profound influence on me. I have not been the same since. I was bettered by learning all that, and it inspired me to make sure that it would never happen again (or at least I would die trying to prevent such atrocities again humankind). Oops. Sorry. Heavy company! Other shows that have popped into my head: - -- Bob Newhart (the one set at the inn in VT, with Larry, Darryl and Darryl) - -- Murphy Brown (and the characters of goofy Miles, pompous Jim, ditzy Corky, etc.) - -- St. Elsewhere (and the episode where Mark died in Hawaii with the curtains blowing...so sad!) - -- Donna Reed, Father Knows Best, My Three Sons, Leave it to Beaver (birth of rock and roll days, when we were so young) And you know...... But they seem so much confetti Looking at them on my TV set Love and peace, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Rates near 39yr lows! $430K Loan for $1,399/mo - Paying Too Much? Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-18226&moid=7581 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:46:08 +0000 From: "Azeem Ali Khan" Subject: Re: TV shows NJC I think this is actually a new vox pop for the jonilist, so here goes: Always catch: ER Party Animals (excellent new BBC drama about political fixers, researchers and PR people - better than it sounds!) Never Mind The Buzzcocks (BBC comedy pop quiz; hated it for years, but the new host Simon Amstell is brilliant) Quite a bit of sport if Baby duties allow: Football/soccer and tennis (which Fiona loves too), rugby union and cricket. And the Olympics Like to watch sometimes: Storymakers (kiddies programme on CBeebies) House - have you seen Hugh Laurie in A Bit of Fry and Laurie? Fantastic, and so different. Wildlife programmes Build a New Life in the Country - another makeover show, but Fiona edited the spin-off book! Can't stand Pop Idol/Fame Academy/etc, most reality TV programmes Soap operas, all of them Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:00:47 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: TV Shows NJC & Elvis Costello An incredible show - I rented season one from the library last year and was just amazed; I watched it religiously back when it was on, but had forgotten how truly groundbreaking it was. Matter of fact, not only was it ahead of its time but I don't think any commercial network now would touch it because it would be considered too politically incorrect. They dealt frankly with a lot of topics that are still too hot to touch. Bob NP: Bruce Springsteen, "Lion's Den" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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So I had to investigate. I rented season one (it's currently in season 4) and in less than a month I watched all 4 seasons - a total of 50 hour-long episodes. It is a brilliantly written and acted show - smart, funny, sophisticated, relevant, thought-provoking, etc... Highly recommended! But then again, I don't have much to judge it against... Les NP - JJ Cale "Okie" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:24:50 +1300 From: hell@ihug.co.nz Subject: Re: TV Shows NJC Patti wrote: > Thanks Gary, but nope, it wasn't "Family" I was > thinking of. But I do remember watching that > one! I recall Sada Thompson being like > the "Mother Knows Best" all the time, and Kristy > McNichol (Buddy!) and Meredith Baxter Birney > (I always thought she was so pretty). That was a > good show...here's a picture of them: I don't remember ever seeing Family, but I do remember Apple's Way, which was Kristy McNichol's first big role (and I had such a big crush on her). And who remembers her movie "Little Darlings" with Tatum O'Neal and Matt Dillon? Another blast from the past! Hell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:29:22 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: TV shows NJC I won't believe you until you tell me four times. Bob NP: Ryan Adams, "Chin Up, Cheer Up" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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And of course there are some albums that should be higher or that should be on here that aren't. But it is just a list....which is subjective and that's all. Enjoy. _http://www.definitive200.com/_ (http://www.definitive200.com/) - -Monika


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:11:46 -0600 From: "mia _" Subject: re: And guitars of yours NJC <> Here's what I have: A late '70's Hohner jumbo-bodied folk guitar that my parents bought for me in high school after tiring of me and brother fighting over a borrowed guitar from a relative. (This was after my brother kicked a hole in it while I was playing it.) The Hohner is my favorite picking guitar, and I keep it tuned in open G. A Martin 000-15 mahogany top auditorium that I usually keep tuned in open D. It's my favorite strumming guitar. A cheap Fender dreadnought that I bought almost 20 years ago. It may have been cheap, but it's light years better than any cheap Fender they sell nowadays. I love it. Keep it tuned in standard. A 12-string Yamaha which was sent from Heaven after my nephew died in a tragic car accident. His family always knew I wanted a 12-string. But I have to admit, after having it, it seems a little clunky. A baby Peavey amp. An electric Fender Strat with a Big Muff pedal that I keep over at the B-friend's house so I can plug into his stuff and play real loud! It's new to me and I'm just getting used to it - still searching for fun heavy things to play, like Veruca Salt, Alice in Chains, Weezer, etc.. I love my old acoustics though. When I pop in at the music store, I'm usually very disappointed with the pricey guitars which don't seem to measure up to the quality of my old cheap guitars. Mia _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. 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The Allman Brothers both opened and closed the festival which also featured groups like Jimi Hendrix and Jethro Tull. I can only imagine how incredible it must have been. I'm just over half way through the first disc and it's awesome. Jazz is great too but sometimes you just have to rock out! This was released back in 2003 but I just discovered it tonight. Victor NP: Allman Brothers "Whipping Post" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:01:16 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Allmans w/Duane (njc) I hear ya! But Trad Jazz is some other kinda shit and I am getting a helluva education out here on the road. Great set tonight in Hobe Sound Fla. Onward to Ft Wayne Indiana. Best Paz On Mar 8, 2007, at 9:36 PM, Victor Johnson wrote: I've been listening to a lot of jazz this week, especially some earlier jazz like Count Basie and Duke Ellington so when I found I had a $20 reward certificate from Best Buy I thought I would go and pick up some rock 'n roll. What I found was totally smoking! It's the Allman Brothers Live at the Atlanta International Pop Festival July 3-5, 1970. Duane Allman was still playing w/ them and they had just released their first album. The story was Duane had been doing a lot of session work and was in Miami playing the week before the concert. He was driving back and was caught up in all the traffic headed to the festival south of Atlanta. So he hopped on back of a motorcycle and got to the stage with moments to spare. The Allman Brothers both opened and closed the festival which also featured groups like Jimi Hendrix and Jethro Tull. I can only imagine how incredible it must have been. I'm just over half way through the first disc and it's awesome. Jazz is great too but sometimes you just have to rock out! This was released back in 2003 but I just discovered it tonight. Victor NP: Allman Brothers "Whipping Post" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:03:30 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: And guitars of yours NJC I CANNOT play this game as it is embarrassing all the stuff I have accummlated over the years. 2 parkers, a gibson j-45, guild D-25, VG-8.......... Paz (somebody stop me) On Mar 8, 2007, at 6:11 PM, mia _ wrote: <> Here's what I have: A late '70's Hohner jumbo-bodied folk guitar that my parents bought for me in high school after tiring of me and brother fighting over a borrowed guitar from a relative. (This was after my brother kicked a hole in it while I was playing it.) The Hohner is my favorite picking guitar, and I keep it tuned in open G. A Martin 000-15 mahogany top auditorium that I usually keep tuned in open D. It's my favorite strumming guitar. A cheap Fender dreadnought that I bought almost 20 years ago. It may have been cheap, but it's light years better than any cheap Fender they sell nowadays. I love it. Keep it tuned in standard. A 12-string Yamaha which was sent from Heaven after my nephew died in a tragic car accident. His family always knew I wanted a 12-string. But I have to admit, after having it, it seems a little clunky. A baby Peavey amp. An electric Fender Strat with a Big Muff pedal that I keep over at the B-friend's house so I can plug into his stuff and play real loud! It's new to me and I'm just getting used to it - still searching for fun heavy things to play, like Veruca Salt, Alice in Chains, Weezer, etc.. I love my old acoustics though. When I pop in at the music store, I'm usually very disappointed with the pricey guitars which don't seem to measure up to the quality of my old cheap guitars. Mia _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp? product=100000035&url=% 2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056 &p=5117 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:15:35 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Human Peace Symbol in Boston this Saturday Dear Boston-area JMDLers: What are you doing this Saturday? Voila this wonderful opportunity: Human Peace Symbol Saturday, March 10th 2007 Noon 100' Human Peace Symbol. 500 people are needed to form a 100' diameter peace symbol in Copley Square. If you are available on March 10th, please register above. (Note from PP: no, register below, where I have pasted the link.) This event is free of charge and open to everyone opposed to the war. A permit has been filed with the City of Boston for this event and permission will be sought to photograph the event from neighboring buildings (hopefully the Hancock). March 10th Schedule: 12:00-1:00 PM - Registration and formation of peace symbol. 1:00-2:00 PM - Maintain peace symbol for 1 hour. Hopefully, we can get some news copters to fly over. Suggestions for the event: Bring or wear lots of colorful items (except green because we'll be on grass). Depending on the weather you may want to bring blankets or something to lay on. If you have any suggestions or questions please contact: info@stopthewars.org Register here: http://www.democracyinaction.org/organizations/ufpj/event/index.jsp?event_KEY=22531 I'm sending up my prayers, wondering who is there to hear? Maybe Boston Jim Bob Murphy, and Ashara and Chuck and Jenny and Maggie and Anne and Jody and Scott and you know there may be more.... Love and peace, Patti P. "Only a great popular upheaval," historian Howard Zinn said recently, "can push both Republicans and Democrats into compliance with the national will." War is over, if you want it. _________________________________________________________________ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #104 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------