From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #100 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, March 6 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 100 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: 80'es stuff & a Q for songwriters ["Martin Giles" ] Re: "Sorry I Asked" lyrics - NJC [Jerry Notaro ] RE:Joni's Canadian Songwriters HOF induction broadcast on CBC-TV [Cather] Re: "Sorry I Asked" lyrics - NJC [Victor Johnson ] Re: Joni's Canadian Songwriters HOF induction broadcast on CBC-TV [Doug] Joni mention in the workplace ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Joni mention in the workplace now weather and njc [Catherine McKay ] FW: Message from Website ["Les Irvin" ] FW: Message from Website 2 ["Les Irvin" ] FW: Message from Website 3 ["Les Irvin" ] RE: Toppermost of the poppermost, top 3 [Warrenkeith91354@aol.com] Re: bree about hillary, njc ["Randy Remote" ] [none] ["Patti Parlette" ] Alice's Restaurant & Joni ["Randy Remote" ] FW: Message from Website 4 ["Les Irvin" ] Re: Castaway - Desert Island Discs NJC [hell@ihug.co.nz] Re: Alice's Restaurant & Joni [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Joni's Canadian Songwriters HOF induction broadcast on CBC-TV now njc [Catherine McKay Subject: Re: 80'es stuff & a Q for songwriters Hi Bene. I write songs with my lyricist 'Strings'. I can't write lyrics to save my life, but I write music. We both have notebooks on the go at all times. Mine's an audio scratchpad on the computer. Hers is of the traditional paper variety. If I get a melody in my head I'll sing it into the computer, or if I come across a musical phrase I like while messing on the guitar. Strings jots down stuff; phrases, fractions of verse etc. as they occur to her. We get together when we can to try and match up words to musical ideas. If we find a promising match, we start developing and extending. I quite often have ideas for melodies that never get used. Mainly this is because Strings writes fairly free verse with little regular rhythm or rhyme. Melodies tend to be much more rigidly structured. Most of the melodies that end up on our songs come when we get together with our notepads. A scrap of an idea will come together and we work out a melody from there. Martin. > (1) How do you write a song? > (2) Does the melody or the song come first, or do they sometimes come > at the same time? > > - -Since I'll probably not get to meet her: how would the rest of you > (those who write songs) answer this one? I'd be very interested to > know! > > Have a nice Sunday! > > Bene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 04:28:56 -0500 From: robmsteen@aol.com Subject: Re: Toppermost and Castaway 1. Hejira 2. Hissing 3. Court & Spark If nothing else, my choice reflects Joni's breathtaking career arc in the mid-70s: to these ears, only Laura Nyro (Eli and the 13th Confession, New York Tendaberry and Christmas and the Beads of Sweat), Dylan (Bringing it all Back Home, Highway 61, Blonde on Blonde) and Van Morrison (St Dominic's Preview, Hardnose the Highway, Veedon Fleece) have ever even approached a trilogy of consecutive studio albums boasting as much invention, reinvention and naked honesty. As for my castaway choices... 1. Something/Anything - Todd Rundgren - the entire history of pop n rock in one sleeve and, like Martin Peters, 10 years ahead of its time. 2. Astral Weeks - Van Morrison - birth, rebirth and the smell of Irish fields and streams. 3. Hejira 4. Countdown to Ecstasy - Steely Dan - was pop/rock ever so damned CLEVER? 5. Hissing 6. Pirates - Rickie Lee Jones - Steely Dan meets Joni in a no-go boho zone. 7. Caravanserai - Santana - the most expressive guitarist and the only progressive album you can dance to 8. It's Too Late To Stop Now - Van Morrison - the greatest live album EVAH! 9. A Wizard, A True Star - Todd R - 20 years ahead of its time but still finger-poppin'. 10. Prefab Sprout - Steve McQueen - Newcastle's Steely Dan with added soul (with you all the way, Kevin!). Love Rob - -----Original Message----- From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Sent: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 03:00:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #71 onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, March 6 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 071 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Joni and "harmonic rules" [Dave Blackburn ] e-ribbon around the planet ["Music Is Special" ] RE: Toppermost of the poppermost, top 3 ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Castaway - Desert Island Discs [AMARY559@aol.com] RE: Toppermost of the poppermost, top 3 ["Stephen Toogood" ] RE:Joni's Canadian Songwriters HOF induction broadcast on CBC-TV ["Michae] Re: Topper/poppermost [Michael Flaherty ] Re: Joni's Canadian Songwriters HOF induction broadcast on CBC-TV [Doug ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 07:21:04 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Joni and "harmonic rules" I think it is plain ignorance to claim that Joni uses unnameable chords and breaks harmonic "rules". The harmonic rules of post-jazz music are not the harmonic rules of the 18th century. A lot of music of the last 50 years uses harmonic movement that would have been alien to Bach and his contemporaries, the era when the original rules were drawn up, and Joni is no exception, if that is any grand claim at all. Of course, she did indeed break the very constricting "rules" of " 60's folk-singer guitar playing" and paved the way for others to do the same. Mostly she employs unresolved suspensions and a few clusters that the alt tunings provide but that is hardly ground breaking, merely surprising for a self taught musician to seek out. As for chord naming, the majority of Joni's chords are very straightforward and nameable (whether they require an alternate guitar tuning or not). The ONLY exception I can think of is the middle portion of Paprika Plains where the chords are indeed pretty hard to name. Just my 2c on this thread. Dave - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:54:26 -0600 From: "Music Is Special" Subject: e-ribbon around the planet Given some of the views expressed on this list, I thought this might be of interest to you and your friends. This is legit -- a friend from Stanford is doing this project: We're all frustrated by the idea that as the health of the planet spirals downward, we have to sit and wait to see if business and government will do anything about it. And will they will do enough and fast enough? Well, what if we didn't have to wait? And further what if we believe this: individuals matter. Since the problem afflicts us all-and all of our children-the conclusion is obvious. Let's lead this one ourselves. So here's our idea: Use the power of the internet to reach out to individuals in every country and to rally them around the idea of embracing the changes needed to heal the planet. Together let's build a ribbon on the internet that's long enough to wrap around the entire earth-a gesture that's big enough, and crazy enough, that there's a chance it just might work. We each create a panel 6" (15 cm.) square made of a photo or drawing of what we love most about this planet, a statement of why we love it, and at least one thing we can to do to help the planet's health. You can do it in as little as three minutes and it's fun and easy. Our manifesto: Individuals, waiting for no one's else's leadership, standing up for what they believe, can change the world. Hence it's called PlanetFesto. Author Wendall Berry said "What we do not love, we will not save." Why participate? Well, we'll literally never make it without you. With each panel 6"/15cm, it will take 262, 965,120 of us. A totally insane number (but that's what we like about it.) How you join. http://www.planetfesto.org Please help us start in a big way on Valentine's Day and tell your friends about it too. It takes less than three minutes to make and post a panel. We have photos you can use if you haven't got one. Everyone participating on Day One will have a permanent #1 on the corner of their piece of the ribbon. To show you were among those who started it. Our promises: We will never ask you for money, share your name with other groups, try to sell you anything. This is a grassroots movement with no other agenda than to improve the quality of our life on Earth. But we do ask you for one more thing: your help in getting others involved. Everywhere. Soccer teams, bike clubs, places of worship, businesses, schools, blogs, MySpace postings. Anybody who wants to stand up and say they love this planet and want it to thrive. Who we are: We are just two people, and some friends, in the Western U.S. who think we have an idea. We're convinced about that enough that we've spent the last 10 months putting it together. But without your help, it'll turn out we really don't have an idea at all. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:17:31 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Toppermost of the poppermost, top 3 Well I noticed from the deserted island question (and from the jmdl album poll site) that Hejira seems to be a lot of peoples' favourite Joni album. Well, what are your top 3 favorite albums by Joni? What about those ones that make them your favourite? - - -Monika


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:37:21 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Toppermost of the poppermost, top 3 Hejira and Don Juan's Reckless Daughter because I find the music on both of these especially magical. Especially like Jaco's bass but more than that, I like the overall texture that is achieved and the variety of moods and textures, the way Joni's voice sounds, the variety of dynamics and timbres...my third favorite would be the first I suppose, STAS as it has a mystical quality of its own and was the first album I discovered. Victor NP: Ray Brown Trio Down By the Riverside , and my piano being tuned in the other room! On Mar 5, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Motitan@aol.com wrote: > Well I noticed from the deserted island question (and from the > jmdl album > poll site) that Hejira seems to be a lot of peoples' favourite > Joni album. > Well, what are your top 3 favorite albums by Joni? What about > those ones that > make them your favourite? > -Monika >


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AOL now > offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:19:17 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Toppermost of the poppermost, top 3 I can't narrow it down to 3, but I can narrow it down to 4. STAS, LOTC, FTR and C&S. Em - - --- Motitan@aol.com wrote: > Well I noticed from the deserted island question (and from the jmdl > album > poll site) that Hejira seems to be a lot of peoples' favourite Joni > album. > Well, what are your top 3 favorite albums by Joni? What about those > ones that > make them your favourite? > -Monika >


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AOL now offers > free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:25:55 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Toppermost of the poppermost, top 3 For the Roses Hejira Blue These are the albums I consistently replay. Though I've been listening to HOSL lately since it's been under discussion. My reasons are personal as well as musical. Blue came out when I was 16, and "River" in particular spoke to my troubled self then. I taught myself to play it on the piano shortly after hearing it, but I could barely get through it dry-eyed. My first love broke up with me the first time we listened to For the Roses (I was 17) and strangely enough the album consoled me after that for a long time. Hejira came out when I was 21--a senior in college--and its restlessness appealed to me as I was contemplating settling down. Less personal--I think each album was musically and lyrically adventurous but also transitional in her career. Nothing on LOTC prepared one for the intensity and raw energy of Blue, the slightly more elaborate instrumentation of FTR, along with its being less directly confessional than Blue, but still dark in its vision, preceded but is preferable to Court and Spark. I still don't much care for that album as a whole; though there are striking songs on it, there are songs I couldn't and still can't stand on it, namely "Help Me" and "Raised on Robbery" and "Twisted" bugged me too. Hejira seemed a real change from the C&S-HOSL-Miles of Aisles period, which really wasn't my favorite (with HOSL being the truly great lp among the three) and of course Hejira had great musicians--a wonderful antidote to the annoying pop-jazz stylings of Tom Scott & Co. But again personally Hejira was the kind of album I'd listen to in the dark on headphones letting the music wash over me. So I'd say my reasons are mainly soundtrack of my life kinds of reasons. - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Motitan@aol.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:18 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Toppermost of the poppermost, top 3 Well I noticed from the deserted island question (and from the jmdl album poll site) that Hejira seems to be a lot of peoples' favourite Joni album. Well, what are your top 3 favorite albums by Joni? What about those ones that make them your favourite? - - -Monika


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:40:30 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: RE: Toppermost of the poppermost, top 3 oh sh_t! I forgot BLUE!!!!!!! Can narrow it down to only 5. Em - - --- Richard Flynn wrote: > For the Roses > Hejira > Blue > > These are the albums I consistently replay. Though I've been > listening to > HOSL lately since it's been under discussion. > > My reasons are personal as well as musical. Blue came out when I was > 16, > and "River" in particular spoke to my troubled self then. I taught > myself > to play it on the piano shortly after hearing it, but I could barely > get > through it dry-eyed. My first love broke up with me the first time > we > listened to For the Roses (I was 17) and strangely enough the album > consoled > me after that for a long time. Hejira came out when I was 21--a > senior in > college--and its restlessness appealed to me as I was contemplating > settling > down. > > Less personal--I think each album was musically and lyrically > adventurous > but also transitional in her career. Nothing on LOTC prepared one for > the > intensity and raw energy of Blue, the slightly more elaborate > instrumentation of FTR, along with its being less directly > confessional than > Blue, but still dark in its vision, preceded but is preferable to > Court and > Spark. I still don't much care for that album as a whole; though > there are > striking songs on it, there are songs I couldn't and still can't > stand on > it, namely "Help Me" and "Raised on Robbery" and "Twisted" bugged me > too. > Hejira seemed a real change from the C&S-HOSL-Miles of Aisles period, > which > really wasn't my favorite (with HOSL being the truly great lp among > the > three) and of course Hejira had great musicians--a wonderful antidote > to the > annoying pop-jazz stylings of Tom Scott & Co. > > But again personally Hejira was the kind of album I'd listen to in > the dark > on headphones letting the music wash over me. So I'd say my reasons > are > mainly soundtrack of my life kinds of reasons. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Motitan@aol.com > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:18 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Toppermost of the poppermost, top 3 > > Well I noticed from the deserted island question (and from the jmdl > album > poll site) that Hejira seems to be a lot of peoples' favourite Joni > album. > > Well, what are your top 3 favorite albums by Joni? What about those > ones > that > make them your favourite? > -Monika >


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AOL now offers > free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:08:51 EST From: AMARY559@aol.com Subject: Re: Castaway - Desert Island Discs Late entry - the bottle got stuck in the Doldrums * HOSL - Joni (simply sublime) * Unforgettable Fire - U2 (for Bad, Pride, Wire, etc) * The Lion & The Cobra - Sinead O'Connror (for "Troy" a vivid, emotive protrayal of a woman "cast iron & frail") * Steve McQueen - Prefab Sprout (quirky but intelligent lyrics - a bit like the Beautiful South only a bit heavier. Paddy McAloon does have a way with words: "They were the best days, the harvest years With jam** to lace the bread Oh, Oh, Oh, Goodness knows why I threw it to the birds" (**"jelly" to you in the US - which does not scan as well as "jam") - I love the way he plays with "harvest" (grain), "bread", "jam" and then a brilliant image of throwing the bread to the birds. * Cold cuts - Show of Hands: a dynamic duo of Phil Beer a virtuouso violinist and guitarist and Steve Knightley, a wonderful vocalist, who along with good cover versions of other artists is a vivid and witty observer of people, especially his native Cornishmen. Note: Of all the things on my hate-list, number one is lists - hence I have not numbered them! Looking at the list I can see my Irish/Celtic roots are in evidence in every selection, even Joni - I think it is the storytelling. Of course, man does not live on Rock, Folk, Pop alone. Top of my playlist at the moment is someone who (and I never thought I would say this) matches Joni in lyrics, poetry, intelligence and musicianship,namely, Richard Wagner. I just cannot get enough of "Tristan und Isolde" - all 3.5 hours of it. Like Joni he makes full use of language, including the spaces, breathes, pauses, like the way he turns: "Nicht hornershall tont so hold die Quelle sanft riseinde Welle rauscht so wonnig daher" into something truly beautiful is astonishing, in the same way Joni breathes new meaning and pathos into common phrases, "the walking green" (Real Good For Free) and "georgeous" (Richard - Blue). Similarly I could not live with Maria Callas (say, Madama Butterfly) or Jussi Bjorling (e.g., Turandot - move over Pavarotti and make way for the king!). All the best Kevin - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:58:44 +0000 From: "Stephen Toogood" Subject: RE: Toppermost of the poppermost, top 3 STAS HOSL MOI STAS - musically so interesting and haunting. The storytelling is first class and the originality and individuality is bettered by no other album I've heard. Also the only album I will put on when going to sleep from time to time - not I might add because it bores me into a comma but because it's so peaceful and full of imagination. These songs really evoke. HOSL - what can I say another one off! Joni's voice and lyrics dance together with the music in an inseparable rhythm. No one else but Joni could have made this album, though of course I'm stating the obvious. MOI - still the best live album I've heard. Joni had really mastered performing live by this stage and it shows. There is a real sense that she enjoys playing these songs too. The jazzy touches really change the originals, but still keep the intimacy. Steve >From: Motitan@aol.com >Reply-To: Motitan@aol.com >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Toppermost of the poppermost, top 3 >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:17:31 EST > >Well I noticed from the deserted island question (and from the jmdl album >poll site) that Hejira seems to be a lot of peoples' favourite Joni album. >Well, what are your top 3 favorite albums by Joni? What about those ones >that >make them your favourite? >-Monika >


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Doug I'll be recording this tomorrow night. and you reminded me, I want to pick up that new Patty Griffin CD Doug Brian Gross wrote: > Just a reminder that the CBC-TV broadcast (highly edited to fit a 1 hour slot) > is scheduled for this coming Monday evening at 8PM. > > Do we have any Canadians set up to record it (on dvd maybe)? > > I'm set up to copy and burn dvd+R's here in south jersey usa. > All I need is a non-protected dvd or a vhs tape to copy. > > Have a good weekend everyone, and Happy Purim, > Brian > > np: Patty Griffin, Children running through > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Politicians and diapers both need to be changed often. > And usually for the same reasons. > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ ___________ > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:57:53 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Topper/poppermost Hejira Blue For the Roses I can never do 'best movie ever' or favorite song polls, but that was easy. XO, - - --Smurf . _________________________________________________________________________ ___________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 03:22:05 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: RE:Joni's Canadian Songwriters HOF induction broadcast on CBC-TV I caught the CSHOF show tonight on CBC. It was very edited indeed. Not a note about the French songs or the French singers inducted. You'd think it was an entirely anglo event, when in fact, it was very bilingual. They even cut out James Taylor's tribute to Joni in French. Not at all happy about that. They also replaced the Chaka segment where she performed Help Me. Those naughty folks rerecorded the entire song for TV, using a band, back up vocals and even Herbie Hancock at the piano. They replaced Chaka by Ms Divine Brown, who does a fine job. Looks like there was a general concensus (and conspiracy) about Chakas' less than stellar performance ! The sh*t's gonna hit the fan ! When all is done, the Joni moments are few and brief, but sweet. Hancock's short speech is very moving, and Joni was close to tears when he highlighted her work on Mingus. Brian, I have one copy of it on DVD, in case you don't get any other offers. Cheers, Michael in Quebec Brian wrote, Just a reminder that the CBC-TV broadcast (highly edited to fit a 1 hour slot) is scheduled for this coming Monday evening at 8PM. Do we have any Canadians set up to record it (on dvd maybe)? I'm set up to copy and burn dvd+R's here in south jersey usa. All I need is a non-protected dvd or a vhs tape to copy. Have a good weekend everyone, and Happy Purim, Brian np: Patty Griffin, Children running through _________________________________________________________________ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 20:01:07 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Topper/poppermost Hejira HOSL DJRD The jazz-influenced moods, the direct yet open lyrics, the musicians, her voice ... everything. Michael Flaherty - - --------------------------------- Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:48:18 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: Joni's Canadian Songwriters HOF induction broadcast on CBC-TV Hi Michael Your copy might be best. I was recording off air and the weather is bad tonight - incredibly windy and cold. Wind chill of -36C, damn Global Warming!!;) You're right, I forgot Help Me was sung by Chaka. They had to do something about it. It sounded real bad. Doug Michael O'Malley wrote: > I caught the CSHOF show tonight on CBC. It was very edited indeed. Not > a note about the French songs or the French singers inducted. You'd > think it was an entirely anglo event, when in fact, it was very > bilingual. They even cut out James Taylor's tribute to Joni in French. > Not at all happy about that. > > They also replaced the Chaka segment where she performed Help Me. > Those naughty folks rerecorded the entire song for TV, using a band, > back up vocals and even Herbie Hancock at the piano. They replaced > Chaka by Ms Divine Brown, who does a fine job. Looks like there was a > general concensus (and conspiracy) about Chakas' less than stellar > performance ! The sh*t's gonna hit the fan ! > > When all is done, the Joni moments are few and brief, but sweet. > Hancock's short speech is very moving, and Joni was close to tears > when he highlighted her work on Mingus. > Brian, I have one copy of it on DVD, in case you don't get any other > offers. > > Cheers, > > Michael in Quebec > > > > > Brian wrote, > > Just a reminder that the CBC-TV broadcast (highly edited to fit a 1 > hour slot) > is scheduled for this coming Monday evening at 8PM. > > Do we have any Canadians set up to record it (on dvd maybe)? > > I'm set up to copy and burn dvd+R's here in south jersey usa. > All I need is a non-protected dvd or a vhs tape to copy. > > Have a good weekend everyone, and Happy Purim, > Brian > > np: Patty Griffin, Children running through > > _________________________________________________________________ > Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows > Live Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca - ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #71 ******************************** - ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm) ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:29:26 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Castaway - Desert Island Discs >>**"jelly" to you in the US - which does not scan as well as "jam") - I love the way he plays with "harvest" (grain), "bread", "jam" and then a brilliant image of throwing the bread to the birds.<< OMG - after years of my students confusing 'ham' and 'jam', and 'jam' and 'marmalade' (mermelada is jam in Catalan), I now discover that UK jam is jelly in the US. So what is UK jelly called? Nice to hear a jonilista mentioning MacAloon, seriously undervalued, I think. mike in bcn, wondering what he'll get for breakfast at jonifest. Np - the secret life of the love song - Nick Cave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 08:18:09 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: "Sorry I Asked" lyrics - NJC Joseph, It is most likely the Beccy Cole song. She is a VERY popular Australian singer and Sorry I Asked is from her best selling Little Victories (2003) cd. She wrote the lyrics but I haven't been able to find them online. Jerry > Hi JMDLers, > > A friend told me that she heard a Filipino singer who she said was in the > original Miss Saigon cast in London (I am assuming it is Monique Wilson) sing > "Sorry I Asked". She thought it was a very powerful and extremely moving song > and wants the lyrics. She asked me if it is a song composed in the > Philippines. I googled the song and came up with entries of Liza Minnelli and > Fred Ebb. Anyone heard of this song before? More importantly, do you have the > lyrics? Much appreciated. > > Joseph > Chapel Hill > (still in the office and missing the tropical weather) > > > --------------------------------- > Dicouvrez une nouvelle fagon d'obtenir des riponses ` toutes vos questions ! > Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expiriences des internautes > sur Yahoo! Questions/Riponses. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 08:35:57 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE:Joni's Canadian Songwriters HOF induction broadcast on CBC-TV - --- Michael O'Malley wrote: > I caught the CSHOF show tonight on CBC. It was very > edited indeed. Not a > note about the French songs or the French singers > inducted. You'd think it > was an entirely anglo event, when in fact, it was > very bilingual. They even > cut out James Taylor's tribute to Joni in French. > Not at all happy about > that. I didn't get to see it or tape it. If i could get a copy, I'd happily reimburse you for costs or trade you something back. I can't make copies of DVDs, so wouldn't be able to pass it on. (Maybe when I get my next computer?) It pisses me off that they separated the English and French. Do you know if they're playing the French part on CBC French? I imagine they would and I suppose it could be found by checking the website. Talk about widening the gap between the two solitudes. Very sad, really, when music is probably the one thing that unites people. God forbid people should hear a little French now and then. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:41:28 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: "Sorry I Asked" lyrics - NJC Beccy Cole "Sorry I Asked" Coming home from work one day I stopped in at the store Lady next to me in line guess about 84 She looked so sweet and innocent I had to say "Hello and how are you?" She said " Well dear when you get to my age things start to drooping at this stage I mean my eyesights not what it used to be so my knitting had to stop you see, and its hard to move with a plastic hip, Dr James removed this thing from my lip... The fluid retention takes it's toll...I mean I really do have bladder control CHORUS I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry sorry I asked how you were doing I was only trying to be polite Sorry I asked I didn't realise that you would be complaining half the night I was just making conversation but that was just too much information Sorry I asked Running late to catch a plane I stopped to get some food There behind the counter was a girld I knew in school I really had no time to spare, still I said "hello and how are you?" She said "Well Charlene's 5 now and Scott's 13 He's a mongrel child if you know what I mean If his father would just take control But the lazy bastard's on the dole But I love his mullet and his flannelette shirt And he's good to me cause he lets me work He and Mum don't see eye to eye, so we're moving out to give his mum a try CHORUS: I'm sorry, I'm so sorry Sorry I asked how you were doing I was really only trying to be polite Sorry I asked I never realised that you would be complaining half the night I was just making conversation that's just too much information Sorry I asked On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Jerry Notaro wrote: > Joseph, > > It is most likely the Beccy Cole song. She is a VERY popular > Australian > singer and Sorry I Asked is from her best selling Little Victories > (2003) > cd. She wrote the lyrics but I haven't been able to find them online. > > Jerry > > >> Hi JMDLers, >> >> A friend told me that she heard a Filipino singer who she said >> was in the >> original Miss Saigon cast in London (I am assuming it is Monique >> Wilson) sing >> "Sorry I Asked". She thought it was a very powerful and extremely >> moving song >> and wants the lyrics. She asked me if it is a song composed in the >> Philippines. I googled the song and came up with entries of Liza >> Minnelli and >> Fred Ebb. Anyone heard of this song before? More importantly, do >> you have the >> lyrics? Much appreciated. >> >> Joseph >> Chapel Hill >> (still in the office and missing the tropical weather) >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Dicouvrez une nouvelle fagon d'obtenir des riponses ` toutes vos >> questions ! >> Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expiriences des >> internautes >> sur Yahoo! Questions/Riponses. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 10:10:43 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: Joni's Canadian Songwriters HOF induction broadcast on CBC-TV Years ago, one of the Ottawa radio stations wanted to adopt a bilingual format. The French stations objected, the CRTC prevented it. The people of Ottawa didn't object, I thought it was a great idea. Though I don't understand much French, I listen to French radio for the great music. Singers like Laurence Jalbert and Marjo could blow any Chick Rocker out of the water. Catherine McKay wrote: > > It pisses me off that they separated the English and > French. Do you know if they're playing the French part > on CBC French? I imagine they would and I suppose it > could be found by checking the website. Talk about > widening the gap between the two solitudes. Very sad, > really, when music is probably the one thing that > unites people. God forbid people should hear a little > French now and then. > > > > Catherine > Toronto > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:34:44 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Joni mention in the workplace Bonjour Joniami(e)s! No great shakes here, but I was emailing a colleague across campus on official business when he wrote back this, out the BLUE: Patti, Did you see that wonderful PBS doc on Joni? It was superb, I thought. I fell in love all over again. R So of course I had to write back all kinds of Joni stuff and it was hard to stop. (TIC! How Do You Stop?) Okay, c'est tout. Back to work if I can get "Help Me" by Joni and "Falling in Love Again" by Marlene Dietrich out of my head! Peace, Patti P., in sub-zero Storrs (with the wind chill) (TIC! "Come in from the cold, come in, come in, come in from the cold....") Uh oh! Full-blown JMOCD again, from one little emai. "When I get this crazy feeling I know I'm in trouble again...." _________________________________________________________________ Win a Zunemake MSN. your homepage for your chance to win! http://homepage.msn.com/zune?icid=hmetagline ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:50:12 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni mention in the workplace now weather and njc - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > Patti P., in sub-zero Storrs (with the wind chill) > (TIC! "Come in from the > cold, come in, come in, come in from the cold....") > We had -21C today. In MARCH!!! That is very cold for Toronto. The weatherpeople say we had the most consistently cold February on record (i.e., not necessarily the lowest temp recorded, but the most days of very cold weather). And in the last week or so, we've had several very weird snowstorms, with very fast, driving snow that covered the roads in no time. This was accompanied by strong winds and, get this, thunder and lightning! (only a couple of bolts, but still...) There was ice all over the CN tower and it started falling off in huge sheets, so they had to close down the roads around it for fear of falling ice killing someone. I saw a cop interviewed on TV who said some of the sheets of ice that came off were the size of a sheet of drywall - that's 4x8 feet! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:01:51 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RRE: bree about hillary, njc Patrick, Thanks for your speedy investigative research ;~) I'm not a huge fan of HC (or anyone who voted for the war) but she is sure someone the rightwingnuts love to froth over. Lucky us, the election posturing has already begun and so has the spin. The far right is particularly wacky about this stuff I guess because it has worked for them in the past. They have already started on Obama too. Bree, thanks for bringing it to our attention & asking for an opinion. >hillary was quoting from a hymn, that was written by a southerner and is usually sung in a drawl. the audio that drudge cropped took out all the context just like he always does http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/03/yet_another_win.php< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:22:11 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: FW: Message from Website Copy Donald on any replies. - -----Original Message----- Was it Joni who sang her 'Songs To Aging Children' in the soundtrack of Alice's Restaurant? I'm told it was Tegar Outlaw, wife of Geoff Outlaw, the guy who played Roger in the film. Thanks! Name: Donald Clarke email: doneth@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:31:02 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: FW: Message from Website 2 Anyone know? Copy Bruce on any responses. - -----Original Message----- I am writing to inquire whether the back cover photo, from the Miles of Aisles CD/Albumm was taken by Jonim at the Temple Ambler Music Festival auditorium. She performed there for two nights in August, 1974. The photo looks like that place. It is located outside of Phila. Pa. Name: Bruce Tuller email: brucetuller@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:34:29 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: FW: Message from Website 3 Copy Lucy on any responses... - -----Original Message----- Could you please tell me when Joni was in residence at the Hotel Chelsea in NY city? How long did she stay there for and which room did she stay in? Name: Lucy Beaumont email: lucy.beaumont@sunday-times.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:10:29 EST From: Warrenkeith91354@aol.com Subject: RE: Toppermost of the poppermost, top 3 If you ask me tomorrow this list might be totally different; here are my picks today... For The Roses Hejira Turbulent Indigo FTR for it's sheer beauty, Hejira for taking me on the journey, and TI for it's simplicity and completeness. -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Motitan@aol.com > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:18 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Toppermost of the poppermost, top 3 > > Well I noticed from the deserted island question (and from the jmdl > album > poll site) that Hejira seems to be a lot of peoples' favourite Joni > album. > > Well, what are your top 3 favorite albums by Joni? What about those > ones > that > make them your favourite? > -Monika >


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:17:09 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: bree about hillary, njc I am all for political discourse, but not personal attacks-not here-we are all friends. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:26:29 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: [none] Catherine wrote: "And in the last week or so, we've had several very weird snowstorms, with very fast, driving snow that covered the roads in no time." Ha! Meme chose ici. You could not see or a forest or a highway, never mind the black road double yellow line, and certainly not the fine white lines of the free free way as the road leads cursed and charmed with all those bolts of lace everywhere. But...... Listen! Strains of Joni Mitchell Coming through the snow and the pinewood trees.... So*that's* where the weather in this moody sky is coming from today. O Canada. "The wind is in from Canada...." No, it's Africa, of course. Sorry. Hey, that reminds me of something. A few months ago we were experiencing a very unusual warm spell. I think it was right after Christmas came on. One of our grad students had just returned from Morocco (his home, that he knew when he saw it again), and this he told me: "The weather is from Africa." I said: "WHAT did you say?" He repeated: "The weather is from Africa." Then I just had to laugh, and said: "Oh, I thought you said 'the WIND was in from Africa'....have you ever heard of Joni Mitchell?" Ha ha....he had not, but *now* he has! ; ) "This was accompanied by strong winds and, get this, thunder and lightning! (only a couple of bolts, but still...)" So you shook your fists, of course! And did a thunderhead of judgment gather in your gaze? Oh dears, I have it bad today. Just one email, that's all it took. Shooby doo bop, Patti P., with the wind howling outside my window, and it doesn't sound like applause, although the traffic is writing words and bars in her head romantic and snow blind here in suffragette JONI FLIP CITY! NP: Canada geese honking over Mirror Lake and flying, in a blue blue sky..... Don't worry 'bout me I'll get along Forget about me Just be happy my loves _________________________________________________________________ Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for FREE. http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:32:22 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Alice's Restaurant & Joni According to Arlo hisself: It's Tigger for sure... She and Geoff (who were married in those days) used to do gigs, and she used to do the song. Part of the problem is that there are some reputable sources (within United Artists) who have been getting it wrong for decades, crediting Joni for singing the song. I guess it doesn't hurt to advertise even if the info is wrong. from this forum: http://www.risingsonrecords.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=9d7616aefaa3b3dd6a9 e83724d0b2778&topic=386.msg2885 I have seen no evidence that Joni attended Woody Guthrie's funeral-he died in 1967, the song was released in 1969. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:46:43 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: FW: Message from Website 4 The age-old question... - -----Original Message----- Query for Joni: In your song California you describe a man that did the "Goat Dance" very well. A friend of mine and myself were listening to Blue and this song came on and we were intrigued to what the goat dance is. Name: Colby email: colbyd_2@comcast.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 07:38:16 +1300 From: hell@ihug.co.nz Subject: Re: Castaway - Desert Island Discs NJC Mike wrote: > OMG - after years of my students confusing 'ham' > and 'jam', and 'jam' and 'marmalade' (mermelada is > jam in Catalan), I now discover that UK jam is > jelly in the US. So what is UK jelly called? I think I know this one... UK Jam = US Jelly UK Jelly = US Jello And for the record, in NZ we agree with the UK where jelly is something you eat with ice-cream, not smear on toast! Hell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 14:19:14 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Alice's Restaurant & Joni I had a spirited off-list discussion about a month ago; apparently the subject came up on another discussion list and they contacted me through the Joni Undercover page. Some guy was insisting that all the information out there was false and that he was 100% certain that it was Joni, which I found hilarious because anyone who has HEARD the track can easily discern that it is not. Bob NP: Prince, "Sign O' The Times" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Though I don't > understand much French, I listen to French radio for > the great music. > Singers like Laurence Jalbert and Marjo > could blow any Chick Rocker out of the water. > Of course, here I am thinking it's the Anglos that wouldn't want to hear the French, when it could just as easily be the French either not wanting to hear the English, or being afraid, in the case of a bilingual format, of disappearing altogether. (First, it's bilingual, then the kids want to hear the English stuff only because it's cool, or whatever, and the next thing you know, the French part has been watered down to nothing.) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:11:32 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: bree about hillary, njc Patrick... It was all over all the news shows yesterday about her quoting from a hymn....but her southern drawl continued AFTER she was finished with that hymn. I mislead no one! I heard her with my own ears. ..Patrick. While iit it true many people on the right don't like her....just like many on the left loathe Bush...so ..yes...right-wing stuff..... but more my observations ....my feelings about her. I find her inauthentic. And the southern drawl is just another example....fun stuff.. like her being a Yankee fan when she needed to win New Yorker's hearts. But I have very serious concerns about her...concerns for this country... IF she were elected to the hightest office in this land. Bree >bree, you are once again passing along right-wing lies about a democrat. >hillary was quoting from a hymn, that was written by a southerner and is >usually sung in a drawl. the audio that drudge cropped took out all the >context just like he always does, and then all your right wing slime-mold >buddies ran with it. and you brought it to us again. read this, and >listen >to the whole clip. > >http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/03/yet_another_win.php > >and then you owe us an apology, for misleading the jonilist. > >patrick > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Bree >Mcdonough >Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 5:58 PM >To: lrfye58@gmail.com; joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: homes, njc > > > >..were you at all bothered by Hillary's sudden found southern accent >while in Selma yesterday? > _________________________________________________________________ The average US Credit Score is 675. 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