From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #95 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, March 3 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 095 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet ["ron" ] Re: Blue? - njc ["mike pritchard" ] Re: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet ["mike pritchard" ] The Words None Dare Say: Nuclear War, njc ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: PC and Tom Rush ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 09:13:04 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet hi 2nd chapter of acts - encores spiritual, emotional, harmonies, & some good solid rock with phil keaggy guesting. also one of the best vocals i ever heard on "he loves me" emmylou harris - quarter moon in ten cent town cause perhaps the box set is cheating just a bit? jerry douglas, russ barenburg & edgar meyer - skip, hop & wobble gotta have some instrumentals joan baez - complete a&m recordings :-) ok - so this is definitely cheating. im sticking with it tho... mama's blues - rory block on a desert island you know youre gonna need some blues. ron np lucinda williams - are you alright (from "west" - if the rest of the album is as good as this i might just insist on 6 albums....) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:33:58 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Blue? - njc >>ay conyo....<< One day in a not-too-distant future em (and paz and emiliano and all the other Castellano speakers) will be able to use a non-English character set to express herself on the list without the posts looking like they're written by aliens. Gargon, maqana, avum, aixr, Manbos. Let's see what comes out here. Les, we need to discuss this at fest, I think. Cheers mike en barcelona np Coltrane - Good Bait ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:48:56 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet Victor, talking of desert island disks, mentioned... >>1. John Coltrane Live at the Village Vanguard and went on... >>I definitely need some John Coltrane as I find his music more spiritual than any other,<< Hi Victor, I notice that your NP the other day was Coltrane's 'Spiritual' which I was listening to at the time I read your post. I recently bought his 'Fearless Leader' 6-CD set and it's wonderful. I was able to hear again 'Violets for your Furs', which you will probably remember for Johnny Hartman's vocal version. 'Fearless Leader' is mostly small group format and that's my favourite type of Coltrane, but if you want to check out bigger formats, there's always the 'Africa Brass Sessions'. best from barcelona mike in bcn np Coltrane Lush Life ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 08:02:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet mike pritchard wrote: I was able to hear again 'Violets for > your Furs', which you will probably remember for Johnny Hartman's vocal > version. And for which I remember for being sung by Billie on one of my Desert Island recordings, Lady In Satin. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 09:15:55 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: You are on a deserted island... njc Monika asked: > What 5 do you bring to listen to for the > > rest of what > > you think will be your life? Why those albums? > 1. Kate Bennett's Over the Moon: It is very uplifting and colorful... I never get tired of it. 2. Earth Wind & Fire's Greatest Hits: I love to dance to it. 3. U2's The Unforgettable Fire: Meditative. 4. Yes 90125: It moves me. 5. Joni's Geffen Set... it's "one" album right? Love, Laura ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 06:22:16 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet It is...go get it. It's not quite up to "Car Wheels On A Gravel Road" status but that's an awfully high bar. It is more consistently stronger than "World Without Tears", I think. Many of the songs deal with her Mom's death so they've got some genuine emotion about them. And her band is the same group of players she'd had for awhile so they really are in synch with each other. I bought my copy at a local indie store and they gave me a free Lucinda demo CD, so when I added the two tracks to West, it became a 79-minute album! That's a lot of Lucinda. Bob NP: Tom Baxter, "A Case Of You" - --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 09:36:13 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet 1. David Gilmour On an Island 2. King Crimsons Islands 3. Yes Tales From Topographic Oceans 4. Beck Sea Change 5. Renaissance Live at Carnegie Hall (incl. Ocean Gypsy) Victor Art Blakey - "If I Had You" - live at Birdland ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 06:49:46 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet Yes yes yes Em - thanks for reminding me that I am one sick mofo. Sometimes I forget. :o) In all honesty, I could take one of several LZ albums - I expect that Zoso would be the one that most people would pick, or Physical Graffitti, or the debut and I could take either one of those as well. I just love the guitar textures on HOTH and the variety of music. The Rain Song may just be the loveliest melody they ever came up with. D'yer Maker gives us a taste of Zeppefied reggae with a hellacious drum riff, and The Crunge features a nice James Brown funkifed groove. The Ocean has what might be my favorite guitar riff hook as well as that cool acapella midsection. I could almost say the same thing about Dancing Days. And the...on top of all this, you still have No Quarter, which is probably my fave LZ song ever - it just sends me to another realm and I don't have to ingest any drugs to get there. And on another note - many of these songs take me back to places, people and parties that make me feel good, so if I was on that island I would want something to trigger all those good memories for me. Bob NP: AC/DC, "Breaking The Rules" - --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 09:58:34 -0500 From: srobe444@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #39 Interesting that Hawai'ian artists cover BYT From what I understand Hawai'ian guitars are always tuned to the song unconventional tnings are conventional maybe Joni just fels natural - -----Original Message----- From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 03:00:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #39 onlyJMDL Digest Monday, February 5 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 039 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- New York Times interviews Joni, 100% JC ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] Heckman's review of BLUE [Dflahm@aol.com] Rudyard Kipling, If [LCStanley7@aol.com] grrrr! [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: questions for Joni [LCStanley7@AOL.COM] Re: grrrr! ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Sad news ["Randy Remote" ] With Great Pleasure - Lynne Truss [Gertus@aol.com] I have a new blog!!! Go look at it!!! [BlueForTheRoses@aol.com] OOPS...lol addy for the blog...... [BlueForTheRoses@aol.com] BYT time warp?? [] Re: Sad news [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: questions for Joni ["gene" ] RE: questions for Joni ["Les Irvin" ] Re: Rudyard Kipling, If [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Rudyard Kipling, If [Deb Messling ] RE: questions for Joni [mags h ] Re: grrrr! [Motitan@aol.com] RE: Rudyard Kipling, If ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Returning Joni discs to the library [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #38 [PassScribe@aol.com] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 10:16:49 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: New York Times interviews Joni, 100% JC I'm re-posting the link because it's a big interview. It seems like Joni Mitchell is in a good place right now. I hope everyone has a pleasant Sunday. Jim L. cc: JoniFest list Les said, >Wow. one of those interviews that comes around only rarely: http://jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=1547 - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 11:10:29 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Another Joni anecdote BTW, are you going to try to make it to JoniFest? I would love to meet you! - - --------------------------- Hmm. I haven't signed up for anything yet. I have been looking at prices and such though, I can't deny that. It would be my heart's desire to go but....we'll see. - - -Monika - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:47:40 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: New York Times article Les, this is a fantastic and revealing article! Thanks so much for posting it! I especially like the part (and I paraphrase) where she doesn't like to be worshipped but she also doesn't like to be spat out either. Wow! Sherelle From: "Les Irvin" Wow. one of those interviews that comes around only rarely: http://jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=1547 Les NP: Pat Metheny "Two Folk Songs" with Michael Brecker.. _________________________________________________________________ Valentines Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095&tcode=wlmtagline - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:31:28 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Heckman's review of BLUE Don (not Dan) Heckman is a good friend of mine and was one of the most astute writers about jazz during the 1960s. But this sentence, at the end of his review of BLUE, per the JMDL Library, (however justified it might have seemed in 1971) turned out to be so completely off the mark that it's laughable: "The audience for art songs is far smaller than that for folk ballads, and Joni Mitchell is on the verge of having to make a decision between the two." Don's mistake was not to foresee that Joni would create her own kind of music, which could not be categorized under any name known at the time. DAVID LAHM ____________________________________ - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:32:40 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Rudyard Kipling, If This poem inspires Joni and so I'm posting it here... it moves me too. Love, Laura IF If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you But make allowance for their doubting too, If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or being lied about, don't deal in lies, Or being hated, don't give way to hating, And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise: If you can dream--and not make dreams your master, If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim; If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two impostors just the same; If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken, And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools: If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings And never breath a word about your loss; If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew To serve your turn long after they are gone, And so hold on when there is nothing in you Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!" If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch, If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you; If all men count with you, but none too much, If you can fill the unforgiving minute With sixty seconds' worth of distance run, Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son! --Rudyard Kipling - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:40:10 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: grrrr! "Her chords break harmonic rules, have no technical names and defy Western musical theory." David Yaffe, Syracuse Univ.Professor, writing about JM in today's NYT. Such ignorance-or is it an attempt to get our attention with something "outrageous?"-is just infuriating. To me, JM did something far more admirable than break rules: she showed how fresh and original, how sensual, music can sound although it uses only traditional materials. If Yaffe were correct...how could there be a songbook with "Amelia" in it? The best that can be said for Yaffe is that he might have been disoriented by the unusual sounds that result from conventional chords being played on guitar in non-standard tunings. smoke issuing from ears, DAVID LAHM - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:56:59 EST From: LCStanley7@AOL.COM Subject: Re: questions for Joni > magaine you meet up with Joni and > you can actually speak. . . > > what are the 100 questions you would ask her? (add to the list) > > 1. Who is Martha? > Hi Mariannie, "Magaine"... asking too many questons might give Joni one. The question I'd ask is: "Can I have the clothes you no longer want to wear?" I know I'm a beggar, but I love her style and love hand me downs. Love, Laura - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:06:46 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: grrrr! Ha-yeah my eyebrows raised there, too---sure they have technical names-sometimes more than one! When it comes to chords, are there really any rules? I think not. RR From: "Her chords break harmonic rules, have no technical names and defy Western > musical theory." > > David Yaffe, Syracuse Univ.Professor, writing about JM in today's > NYT. > > Such ignorance-or is it an attempt to get our attention with something > "outrageous?"-is just infuriating. To me, JM did something far more > admirable than > break rules: she showed how fresh and original, how sensual, music can > sound > although it uses only traditional materials. > > If Yaffe were correct...how could there be a songbook with "Amelia" in it? > > The best that can be said for Yaffe is that he might have been > disoriented > by the > unusual sounds that result from conventional chords being played on guitar > in non-standard tunings. > > smoke issuing from ears, DAVID LAHM - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:00:33 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Sad news Oh man-there are no words to say-but we are with you dear friend Michael- so sorry to hear about your loss- We are stardust - BYT played on the radio as I read Sherelle's post. - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:40:23 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: With Great Pleasure - Lynne Truss Lynne Truss is a popular British writer, probably most famous for her book, "Eats, Shoots and Leaves". Last week the literary passions which shaped her writings were featured in the BBC radio 4 series "With Great Pleasure". Guess what? She includes A Case of You which is both played and recited in the program. You can hear the program here:- _BBC - Radio 4 - With Great Pleasure_ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/withgreatpleasure/) Jacky - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:45:14 EST From: BlueForTheRoses@aol.com Subject: I have a new blog!!! Go look at it!!! Hey everyone I now have a new blog all of my own....Feel free to go read it and post your thoughts! I'm going to regularly be adding to it and posting comments and thoughts on various things, so check back from time to time and see what you think about it.....Rick - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:50:40 EST From: BlueForTheRoses@aol.com Subject: OOPS...lol addy for the blog...... The addy for the blog is.....http://blondeinthebleachers.blogspot.com Hope you all enjoy! Rick - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:15:28 -0800 From: Subject: BYT time warp?? Mingus sent a great article yesterday and then there was a list of Joni's song's inducted into the HOF. But where oh where did the information below come from?? BYT was on the Ladies of the Canyon album which came out in 1970 not 1975!! Sure, she wrote it about Hawaii but it was on an obviously earlier trip. The '73 event was a concert there with Jackson Browe (although I recall it being summer of '72 because friends were there). Anyway, whether '72 or '73 she did perform it there and it was huge because of the theme and the Hawaii slack key feel. It has been recorded by several local Hawaiian artists over the years. Kakki SONG INDUCTEE: BIG YELLOW TAXI MODERN ERA. 1956 to 1981 YEAR: 1975 LYRICIST & COMPOSER: JONI MITCHELL (b. Fort Macleod, Alberta, 7 November 1943) Big Yellow Taxi is Joni Mitchells most recognized song despite having only reached number 24 on the Billboard charts upon its release in 1975 from her album Ladies of the Canyon. Admired for Mitchells unique melody and soothing vocal work, the song currently ranks as number nine on CBC Radios Top 50: The Canadian Version. Big Yellow Taxi was written in 1973 after Mitchell was in Hawaii peering out of her hotel window hoping to glimpse the breathtaking scenery, only to see an enormous parking lot. The song is about taking nature for granted. - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 17:41:54 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Sad news I spoke with Michael earlier today...he said Rosie, I was just thinking about you...are you coming to the show? It was just then that I remembered he's in Vineland, NJ today! What time does it start? 3:00 he tells me....it's just turned 2PM. No, I exclaimed, I don't think I'll be making that one! lol I was just thinking about you as well, I'm burning your Dave Matthews vine disks I just received this week. I've lost 2 sibblings as well as both parents, so I think I know just how Michael must be feeling right about now, but I didn't want to get him started.... Rosie in NJ w/o a TV...aaarrgggggghhhhhhhh - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:45:19 -0800 From: "gene" Subject: Re: questions for Joni nice thread, i'll delurk for this one. i would ask what she does with her artwork she doesn't like. gene - - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: Re: questions for Joni >> magaine you meet up with Joni and >> you can actually speak. . . >> >> what are the 100 questions you would ask her? (add to the list) >> >> 1. Who is Martha? >> > > > Hi Mariannie, > > "Magaine"... asking too many questons might give Joni one. > > The question I'd ask is: "Can I have the clothes you no longer want to > wear?" I know I'm a beggar, but I love her style and love hand me downs. > > Love, > Laura > > !DSPAM:144,45c63b3b261391116226921! - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:27:07 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: RE: questions for Joni Joni: Once and for all, is it "You're notches liberation doll" or "Your notches liberation doll"? - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:19:57 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Rudyard Kipling, If Ooh, that's a very good poem. I think I'll keep it here and read it when I feel the need. - - -Monika - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 19:29:55 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Rudyard Kipling, If The one thing that makes me extremely nervous about Joni's new project is her reverence for this Kipling poem. I admire the sentiments expressed, but I'd scarcely call it a poem at all, merely admirable sentiments expressed in verse. For example, this line: >If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster >And treat those two impostors just the same; reminds me of Joni's lines in DJRD: "puffed up and strutting when I think I win / down and shaken when I think I lose." Joni's lines are a mini-portrait of someone (temporarily, anyway) failing at Kipling's little moral test. But isn't it more striking? And more immediate? Joni is a better poet than Kipling ever dreamed of being. - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 16:25:24 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: RE: questions for Joni les list meister!!!! lol ...rascal! mischief maker...okay, i'm saying it's you're notches..as in notches on the bed post. so there. and new ones want to make comments on that? as for a question to Joni...I'd ask her what she'd like for dinner? And yes, I'd let her smoke in my place :-)) ~mags Les Irvin wrote: Joni: Once and for all, is it "You're notches liberation doll" or "Your notches liberation doll"? ***** ~all the windows of my heart, i open to this day~ ***** - - --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 19:34:46 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: grrrr! "Her chords break harmonic rules, have no technical names and defy Western musical theory." - - ------------------------------- Well maybe, maybe not. But that is one of the reasons why her music is so original and inspiring. She doesn't fall into the whole traditional way of writing songs. It doesn't always have to be verse-chorus-verse-chorus, etc. She has been a huge inspiration for me lately when it comes to songwriting. Just today I wrote a new song. For what I thought was going to be the last verse, I had written two different verses. I was going to choose which I thought was better but said fuck it, and tacked an extra verse at the end where technically it shouldn't belong. I even thought of Joni for a moment after I did that and thought, "thanks." But its funny how everyone differs. Some people like apples, some like oranges. I like it all. - - -Monika - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 20:14:49 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Rudyard Kipling, If I agree, Deb. Kipling's "If" does not represent the best of his work. Kipling, the children's author (Jungle Books, Just So Stories, Kim) is a great artist. "If" is awful--condescending, didactic and coercive. I don't even admire the sentiments expressed. At least Joni is altering the "Man" part of the last line. - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Deb Messling Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 7:30 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Rudyard Kipling, If The one thing that makes me extremely nervous about Joni's new project is her reverence for this Kipling poem. I admire the sentiments expressed, but I'd scarcely call it a poem at all, merely admirable sentiments expressed in verse. For example, this line: >If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster >And treat those two impostors just the same; reminds me of Joni's lines in DJRD: "puffed up and strutting when I think I win / down and shaken when I think I lose." Joni's lines are a mini-portrait of someone (temporarily, anyway) failing at Kipling's little moral test. But isn't it more striking? And more immediate? Joni is a better poet than Kipling ever dreamed of being. - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:33:51 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Returning Joni discs to the library In a message dated 2/4/07 3:02:27 AM, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: > Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 21:17:42 EST > From: Motitan@aol.com > Subject: STAS/MOA why oh why?!?! > > About a couple weeks ago or so I had to return Song To A Seagull back to the > library because someone else had ordered it and it was therefore on hold. > Checking the system, it is due back on 02/20 and one other person is in > line > ahead of me! That means another 3 weeks more without it after the 20th > unless > the person returns it beforehand. I've been thinking I should just go out > and buy it already but my cd rack is full! > - -Monika > Why not just make a tape (or a CD copy) of the library disc and be done with it? Not having room in your CD rack for another is certainly no reason to not acquire more music... what else in life is more important than music? Okay... you don't need a rack to hold love! Kenny B > - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:38:30 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #38 > I have this > annoying obsession with wanting to convert people to the things I like. I > just want to spread the joy! Anyone else like this? > - -Monika > I don't seek to convert anyone who doesn't show an inclination to be converted. But, if someone shows the slightest interest in something I'm obsessed with, I will do everything in my power to answer their questions and satisfy their hunger. Kenny B - ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #39 ******************************** - ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm) ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:57:00 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet If I had to pick a Zep album it would be HOSL as well largely for the same reasons...a great album all the way around. Zoso is okay but actually not my favorite. Physical Graffiti would also be up there for me. Victor NP: nothing On Mar 3, 2007, at 9:49 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > albums, YOU pick HOTH??????> > > Yes yes yes Em - thanks for reminding me that I am one sick mofo. > Sometimes I forget. :o) > > In all honesty, I could take one of several LZ albums - I expect > that Zoso would be the one that most people would pick, or Physical > Graffitti, or the debut and I could take either one of those as > well. I just love the guitar textures on HOTH and the variety of > music. The Rain Song may just be the loveliest melody they ever > came up with. D'yer Maker gives us a taste of Zeppefied reggae with > a hellacious drum riff, and The Crunge features a nice James Brown > funkifed groove. The Ocean has what might be my favorite guitar > riff hook as well as that cool acapella midsection. I could almost > say the same thing about Dancing Days. And the...on top of all > this, you still have No Quarter, which is probably my fave LZ song > ever - it just sends me to another realm and I don't have to ingest > any drugs to get there. > > And on another note - many of these songs take me back to places, > people and parties that make me feel good, so if I was on that > island I would want something to trigger all those good memories > for me. > > Bob > > NP: AC/DC, "Breaking The Rules" > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:27:23 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet I would pick HOTH, too > In all honesty, I could take one of several LZ albums - I expect that > Zoso would be the one that most people would pick, or Physical Graffitti, > or the debut and I could take either one of those as well. I just love the > guitar textures on HOTH and the variety of music. The Rain Song may just > be the loveliest melody they ever came up with. D'yer Maker gives us a > taste of Zeppefied reggae with a hellacious drum riff, and The Crunge > features a nice James Brown funkifed groove. The Ocean has what might be > my favorite guitar riff hook as well as that cool acapella midsection. I > could almost say the same thing about Dancing Days. And the...on top of > all this, you still have No Quarter, which is probably my fave LZ song > ever - it just sends me to another realm and I don't have to ingest any > drugs to get there. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:50:12 -0700 From: "L. Bruce Vaughn" Subject: Re: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet All the Zep talk, hadn't had a disc out in years. If I took a Zep album with me it'd be the first one or the last one. Had to pull In Through The Out Door and listen to In The Evening... Sounds like the Zep albums could use a new hit on the mastering table. That's what's so great about this list, you get some brain hits on things you've not listened to in a while. So cool... Bruce in AZ > If I had to pick a Zep album it would be HOSL as well largely for the > same reasons...a great album all the way around. Zoso is okay but > actually not my favorite. Physical Graffiti would also be up there > for me. > > Victor > > NP: nothing > > > > > > > On Mar 3, 2007, at 9:49 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > >> > albums, YOU pick HOTH??????> >> >> Yes yes yes Em - thanks for reminding me that I am one sick mofo. >> Sometimes I forget. :o) >> >> In all honesty, I could take one of several LZ albums - I expect >> that Zoso would be the one that most people would pick, or Physical >> Graffitti, or the debut and I could take either one of those as >> well. I just love the guitar textures on HOTH and the variety of >> music. The Rain Song may just be the loveliest melody they ever came >> up with. D'yer Maker gives us a taste of Zeppefied reggae with a >> hellacious drum riff, and The Crunge features a nice James Brown >> funkifed groove. The Ocean has what might be my favorite guitar riff >> hook as well as that cool acapella midsection. I could almost say >> the same thing about Dancing Days. And the...on top of all this, you >> still have No Quarter, which is probably my fave LZ song ever - it >> just sends me to another realm and I don't have to ingest any drugs >> to get there. >> >> And on another note - many of these songs take me back to places, >> people and parties that make me feel good, so if I was on that >> island I would want something to trigger all those good memories for >> me. >> >> Bob >> >> NP: AC/DC, "Breaking The Rules" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time >> with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:12:31 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet But I thought HOSL was a Joni Mitchell album? Bob - --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:11:15 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: PC and Tom Rush Kakki wrote: " It is funny because I am mostly "politically incorrect" on the Joni list but I have > always been able to understand and agree with her take on the ills of the > world. To me her work transcends the mere "political" and just draws upon > universal, timeworn truths. Now, her new album - hmmm - I hope she keeps > it universal and does not become partisan but from some of the comments > related here, she may go that way. I hope not. A good message should > reach all, not a select group." Spot on, Kakki. Oh, Joni may have occasionally fallen from grace and allowed personal irritation to infiltrate the painting, but so much less often and less self-indulgently than most mortals. And that in turn goes a long way to explaining how those of us who are not in lock-step with the majority JMDL view on all such issues can nevertheless appreciate and admire Joni's "political" - or should I say "topical" - art. On a different tack, I got to see Tom Rush last night at Joe's Pub. It was a fun evening, and a nice performance. He told the expected story about the Circle Game tape, and also discussed the inspiration - without mentioning Neil Young's name or Sugar Mountain. He did say that "she floored me" when he first heard Joni play - she had asked to do a guest set at the coffee house in Detroit so that Rush could hear her. He also said that he was about a year behind in delivering an album under his contract, and was pretty desperate - so, after a while, he approached Joni every night and asked "did you write any new songs today ?" He mentioned the Carnegie Hall show (and the fact that he played in a completely different and far away venue the very next night). There was nothing political about his show - and the NY audience appeared fine with that. A fair number of people in their late 20's and early 30's, along with the rest of us geezers. He performed Urge For Going - the crowd loved it, and one of the youngin's exclaimed "good song", breaking the brief, hushed silence after the song's end prior to the applause. Surprise, surprise. Apparently he has moved to California and has a 7-year old son - he made some crack about making his own grandchildren. ;-) My friend was a bit surprised that Tom (who was in the foyer to greet patrons as they entered Joe's Pub) did not perform Joshua Gone Barbados (he may have played Wasn't That A Mighty Storm, but I had listening quite a bit that day to his stuff before the concert, and am not sure), in light of the recent passing of Eric Von Schmidt, who apparently was a major influence on Rush. Tom made no reference to his death that I heard (we were at the very frontmost table, which was also fun). Bobsart


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:19:09 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet On Mar 3, 2007, at 3:12 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > > But I thought HOSL was a Joni Mitchell album? > > Bob It was a joint effort by Led Zep and Joni...Houses of Saintly Lawns ! Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:25:40 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet >Hopefully all those foxy LOST ladies could keep me occupied when I want to >do something other >than listen to music. >Bob heh heh I like the way he really takes into account the whole question. . . : -) From: Bob Muller 1. Hejira - because listening to it is like watching a favorite film or reading a favorite novel again & again. I never tire of it and it always brings new things to the table. 2. Loggins & Messina - Mother Lode: I love the variety of music and the musicianship on this album. Some great songs to sing along to, or just mellow back with. 3. Led Zeppelin - Houses Of The Holy: Because I've got to rock, and this one rocks but also has some incredible melodies and again a variety of musical styles. And I don't need a lifetime supply of strings, the ones on my air guitar never break. 4. War Live: Because it's soul & funk with attitude - great to sing and move to. It always sounds good to me. By the same token, I could substitute Songs In The Key Of Life for this one. 5. The Red House Painters - Ocean Beach: It's a great moody record, and I imagine would be great to listen to on an island. Hopefully all those foxy LOST ladies could keep me occupied when I want to do something other than listen to music. Bob _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft. Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 01:42:03 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: njc, Sting plays lute on PBS tonight, and thoughts on melancholy Chere Sherelle et la reste du Joni monde, I'm sorry you missed this, ma Belle! It was a lovely one-hour respite from the breakdown of this century. You can check here to see if it will be repeated in your area, and also to see some lovely photography and read more about it (life is for learning): http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/shows/sting/index.html If you click on the left on "Deutsche Grammophon" you can hear some, and after doing that, on the right, see some videos and stuff. He performed at his English manor house, in the gradens of his Italian villa, and at St. Luke Church in London. Lovely environs, all. When asked if John Dowling had been "depressive", he joked that he seemed more bi-polar (because he sang about joy and sadness....hmmm...laughing and crying/both sides now duality?). I also appreciated his talking about the labyrinth, and everyone trying to get to the center (the garden?), and that life is a journey. Well, those are just my meditative and contemplative impressions. I hope you can catch it yourself, when you're in the mood for getting your soul stirred and digging down deep and finding "comfort in melancholy." Love & peace, Patti P. > >Hi Patti mon amie! > >I'm just catching up on digests and caught your post! Waaah! I wish I could >have seen this! How was it? > >Love, Sherelle > >From: "Patti Parlette" > >Bon soir, music lovers! > >Maybe this will interest some of you? Check your local listings. > >Classical Music, Here Is Thy Sting >Rock Star Trades Bass For Lute In Playing 16th-Century Songs On PBS Special >February 24, 2007 >By ROGER CATLIN, Courant TV Critic _________________________________________________________________ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:01:11 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet I've been listening to "West" repeatedly. It is beautiful and haunting and Hal Wilner's production is magnificent. I'm a big fan. I've seen Lucinda about 8 times and I am going to see her on March 16th in Jacksonville, FL and on March 30th at the Ryman when I'm in Nashville on business. I've been a fan since her Rough Trade album (her third album) "Lucinda Williams" (1988). That album will always be my favorite. "West" is a very gut-wrenching emotional experience for me. I think it's her "Blue." - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 9:22 AM To: ron; Motitan@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: You are on a deserted island...NJC yet It is...go get it. It's not quite up to "Car Wheels On A Gravel Road" status but that's an awfully high bar. It is more consistently stronger than "World Without Tears", I think. Many of the songs deal with her Mom's death so they've got some genuine emotion about them. And her band is the same group of players she'd had for awhile so they really are in synch with each other. I bought my copy at a local indie store and they gave me a free Lucinda demo CD, so when I added the two tracks to West, it became a 79-minute album! That's a lot of Lucinda. Bob NP: Tom Baxter, "A Case Of You" - --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:16:31 -0500 From: "Patty Wieloh" Subject: NJC >> In order to enable latecomers to the list or new traders have a > >> chance of listening to Bob Muller's incredible compilation of covers > >> of Joni's songs here is the latest round of the Perpetual Joni Covers > >> Train. Volumes 71 - 83 (taking you right up to this month's release). > >> > >> These are uncompressed WAV files for those who care about such things -- > >> they are not the MP3 versions. > >> > >> For those not familiar with trading trains, here is how they work: > >> When the disks come to you, you make copies of as much of the > >> contents as you want, and then you post back to > >> this list offering to pass the disks along to the next person. You do > not > >> keep the originals -- you keep the copies you made for yourself. On > most > >> trains, the convention is that you make the copies and send the masters > >> along within two days. For these trains, you must agree to turn them > >> around > >> within two weeks. Sometimes the offer goes unclaimed. Bob and I expect > >> that > >> to happen from time to time. So, by participating, you agree to just > hang > >> on to the disks and then make another offer a month or so later (or to > >> respond if somebody posts a grovel looking for them). In theory, if > >> everybody takes good care of the disks, wrapping them well, not letting > >> them > >> get scratched, etc. and passes them along, these covers will run on the > >> tracks for years. Nobody is going to monitor the progress of these > trains > >> so if you participate and then lose the disks or fail to reoffer them, > you > >> will have kept others from enjoying them. When you post an offer, please > >> include these "rules". One final note, I know a few folks like to > >> compress > >> these > >> into MP3s. If you want to, go ahead but please do not send MP3s to the > >> next > >> person - MP3s permanently delete some of the "data" and sound > >> quality degrades so please pass the masters along. > >> > >> So, anybody who would like to receive volumes 71-83, please send me: > >> 1. Your mailing address and > >> 2. Your promise to reoffer, etc. > >> > >> Enjoy and happy holidays, Eric > >> > >> > >> P.S. If you are sitting on any of the earlier rounds, please offer them > >> up > >> again as its been a while and new folks might be interested. Thanks > All the best,Rich Wieloh ps: This note is not from Eric but from me as it was copied from the original post,Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 02:57:49 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: The Words None Dare Say: Nuclear War, njc Thank you for daring to bring this up, Laura. I have been wanting to say something but have held back, not wanting to interrupt all the Joni joy and musical discussion that's been going on. Just two little snippets from all you pasted: >As Einstein said, "You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war." > and >The general issue is escalation as a policy, both in Iraq and in Iran. They >are linked issues, not separate issues. We have learned from Iraq what lack >of public scrutiny does. > Darn right! NPIMH: There's something happening here What it is ain't exactly clear There's a man with a gun over there Telling me I got to beware I think it's time we stop, (aging) children, what's that sound Everybody look what's going down Bush is rattling sabres near Iran. This is pretty damned scary stuff. But here is a chord you can strike if you feel. Voila an email from my "freakin' general" friend (lol...maybe some of you remember when I got to meet him at the Lamont rally last fall?) Wesley Clark: **** Dear Patti, Thank you so much for joining the effort at StopIranWar.com. I really appreciate your support. If you haven't already done it, I hope you'll take a moment right now to invite your friends and family to take action at http://www.stopiranwar.com/ Thanks so much for your support! We can't do it without you. Sincerely, Wes Clark **** I found him to be a good guy and an excellent, passionate and, I thought, sincere speaker. I exchanged a few words with him and felt some definite electricity when we shook hands and I looked into his eyes. He has a soul. And it's pretty remarkable when a "freakin' GENERAL" writes, as he does on this website, that "war is not the answer." On a lighter note, I remember him saying in his rally speech: "You can't 'stay the course' when we've been driven into a ditch!" when, just as natural as the weather, I got the TIC "that son of b@#$h!" from Raised on Robbery! Sorry for the politics. I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. Wishing you all the peace and the star (and something about a Matala moonshadow happening tonight? I have to go look, but I think clouds got in the way), Patti P. P.S. Yesterday "down in the cellar of the Boho zone" of my ranch house on a hill I had the worst flood I've had here in 20 years. Merde! It was up to my ankles, and when I opened the door to let the dog eat dogs out, more water poured in, like a river. Laughing and crying, I sang out loud: "Oh, I wish I didn't have a river" in my basement! _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 22:08:52 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: You Are On a Desert Island > RE: You are on a deserted island... > > I've always gotten a kick out of contemplating this one, ever since Tower Records' Magazine used to have readers' "Desert Island Discs" in each issue. The two that have ALWAYS been at the top of my list have been Court & Spark and Todd Rundgren's A Wizard, A True Star... after that, it has traditionally been something by Joe Walsh (like, The Smoker You Drink The Player You Get), Bruce's Born To Run, and Flo & Eddie's Moving Targets. Kenny B ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:22:03 -0700 From: "Dr. Katherine Whited" Subject: Joni, Jackson Do you think that Joni wrote Not to Blame (on TI) about Jackson Browne? Do you know if they associate anymore? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:56:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: PC and Tom Rush Tom is going to play here in St. Petersburg in a few weeks at a friend of mine's art gallery. Only 50 seats. Should be great. Jerry Bobsart48@aol.com wrote: > Kakki wrote: > > " It is funny because I am mostly "politically incorrect" on the Joni > list > but I have >> always been able to understand and agree with her take on the ills of >> the >> world. To me her work transcends the mere "political" and just draws >> upon >> universal, timeworn truths. Now, her new album - hmmm - I hope she >> keeps >> it universal and does not become partisan but from some of the comments >> related here, she may go that way. I hope not. A good message should >> reach all, not a select group." > Spot on, Kakki. Oh, Joni may have occasionally fallen from grace and > allowed > personal irritation to infiltrate the painting, but so much less often > and > less self-indulgently than most mortals. And that in turn goes a long way > to > explaining how those of us who are not in lock-step with the majority > JMDL > view on all such issues can nevertheless appreciate and admire Joni's > "political" - or should I say "topical" - art. > > On a different tack, I got to see Tom Rush last night at Joe's Pub. It was > a > fun evening, and a nice performance. He told the expected story about the > Circle Game tape, and also discussed the inspiration - without mentioning > Neil > Young's name or Sugar Mountain. He did say that "she floored me" when > he first heard Joni play - she had asked to do a guest set at the coffee > house in Detroit so that Rush could hear her. He also said that he was > about a > year behind in delivering an album under his contract, and was pretty > desperate - so, after a while, he approached Joni every night and asked > "did you > write any new songs today ?" > > He mentioned the Carnegie Hall show (and the fact that he played in a > completely different and far away venue the very next night). > > There was nothing political about his show - and the NY audience appeared > fine with that. A fair number of people in their late 20's and early 30's, > along with the rest of us geezers. He performed Urge For Going - the crowd > loved > it, and one of the youngin's exclaimed "good song", breaking the brief, > hushed silence after the song's end prior to the applause. Surprise, > surprise. > Apparently he has moved to California and has a 7-year old son - he made > some > crack about making his own grandchildren. ;-) > > My friend was a bit surprised that Tom (who was in the foyer to greet > patrons as they entered Joe's Pub) did not perform Joshua Gone Barbados > (he may > have played Wasn't That A Mighty Storm, but I had listening quite a bit > that day > to his stuff before the concert, and am not sure), in light of the recent > passing of Eric Von Schmidt, who apparently was a major influence on > Rush. Tom > made no reference to his death that I heard (we were at the very > frontmost > table, which was also fun). > > Bobsart >


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