From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #85 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, February 25 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 085 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: HOSL & Hejira ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #53 [srobe444@aol.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #55 [srobe444@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:51:36 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Re: HOSL & Hejira Hi Monika, first, congratulations on your choices! You certainly have an exciting time ahead of you getting into these albums. As for reviews, I usually find it more useful to first listen to new cds without reading reviews. Reviews after all depend highly on the person writing them, whether or not he or she feels sympathetic towards the artist, their political views, the paper they write for. I remember after having listened to Blue when it was first released I read a review stating that Blue was just another product of an extremely self-centered artist with no compassion for "the people". These were the radical times of the early 70's, today the reviewer would probably sing a different tune... (Just to avoid misunderstandings - my political leanings are to the left, so I was quite upset with the review at the time since I really loved Blue - still do). Marion - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:28 AM Subject: HOSL & Hejira > Well I went to the music store as as I said, and out of the 5 albums I > bought, I picked up Hejira and The Hissing Of Summer Lawns. I even > bought a new > cd rack and a live 1972 John Lennon concert video! It was a good day for > music shopping! Lots of deals man! > I gave HOSL a listen and started on Hejira but haven't finished it yet > (I feel bad for stopping an album before getting through it the first > time). > I'm in the process of getting ready to go out and meet some friends at > the > bar. I'll grab both the albums for the car and pop Hejira back in on > track 7. > However, even if you're not drunk, at some point when its late at night, > everything sounds and looks different either way. It's like a late night > haze > gets you...even when you don't drink! > Anyway, I shall get back to you on what I think of the albums. I'm > just > so excited to listen to them and begin absorbing them! I'll have to go > back > and reread the reviews of these albums on the JMDL website. I had read > them > before in passing but it's different once you know what they are talking > about! I'll have to recheck Amazon again as well. Anyone else have any > places > to read some reviews on these albums? Thanks in advance if you do. > -Monika, making herself late >


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Steve Roberts -----Original Message----- From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Sent: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 3:00 AM Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #53 onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, February 18 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 053 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Paradise Paved ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Long Globe & Mail weekend article [Bob Muller ] Re: Long Globe & Mail weekend article [Victor Johnson ] Re: JoniFest ["anne@sandstrom.com" ] Jonifest ["Jill Haas" ] Re: e: Carlos Castaneda not much jc ["mia _" ] Re: Jonifest [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Jonifest [Motitan@aol.com] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Fw=3A=20=27=38=33=20Concert=20at=20Irvin e=20Meadows=20and=20=38=37=20concert=20at=20pacific=20amphitheater?= ["=] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Joni=20memories=20not=20really=20jc?= ["=?ISO-8859] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20=33=33=20=31=2F=33=20Court=20and=20Spark =20book?= ["=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: Paradise Paved I love hearing stuff like that. Thanks Kenny. Marianne >From: PassScribe@aol.com Hey, gang, I know some folks enjoy hearing about even minor mentions of Joni or references to her, so I'm forwarding the following bit of news. On the front cover of (Long Island's) Newsday, Part 2, is a photo of an old barn here on LI (by someone I know in the Huntington CC, no less) and the lead-in under it: "They may have paved paradise, but the Heckscher Museum Of Art looks past the parking lot to a time now lost", and- of course- it's all about preserving the island's past history, etc. That's it... no big deal... Kenny B _________________________________________________________________ With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few simple tips. http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 06:41:12 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Long Globe & Mail weekend article http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070217.JONI17/TPStory/TPEn tertainment/Music/ An extensive article - another song title ("Shine") and a mention about her current estrangement with Kilauren (maybe that's why she's writing again?) Happy weekend! Bob NP: The Uptown Trio, "Song For Sharon" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:35:00 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Long Globe & Mail weekend article Thanks for the link! Interesting interview... Victor NP: Joe Gransden "Green Dolphin Street" On Feb 17, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070217.JONI17/ > TPStory/TPEn > tertainment/Music/ > > An extensive article - another song title ("Shine") and a > mention about her current estrangement with Kilauren (maybe that's > why she's > writing again?) > > Happy weekend! > > Bob > > NP: The Uptown Trio, "Song For Sharon" > ______________________________________________________________________ > _______ > _______ > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > http://new.mail.yahoo.com - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:45:44 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Joni Mitchell in Person, new G&M article Joni Mitchell in Person, by ALEXANDRA GILL, From Saturday's Globe and Mail This is a rather unflattering article/interview from the Calgary ballet opening. Gill seems obsessed by the fact that Joni is a smoker and devotes several column inches to the subject. Anyway, there are a few good lines, such as ``She pauses, staring into space, and then returns with a bang. To enjoy my music, you need depth and emotionality. Those two traits are bred out of the white, straight males who control the press. `` Viewers comments to the article on the website are also interesting ! More here, including a glam photo oj Joni taken on opening night in a dressing room. She's looking rahthah regal... http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070216.wxjoni0217/BNStory/Entertainment/home Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:34:19 -0500 From: "Evelyne Dubois" Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell in Person, new G&M article Salut ` tous, I've read the article and didn't appreciate one bit the way Joni was portrayed. God, leave her alone with the smoking and concentrate on where she's coming from (personally AND generation wise, not to say historically), what she's pointing to!! Leave the damn shallow journalistic critic lines and give us the substance we're all desperatly in need of ...... I'm not saying Joni should be portrayed like an above faults godess or anything but come on! Gill wrote: "On surface.... Mitchell's life since then (following Blue and C&S) looks like that of a troubled diva... she would often berate her audiences if they weren't paying close enough attention" . or again "...when Mitchell felt the need to grow as an artist, she turned her back on her fans (sic- so unrelevant) and almost abandoned melody altogether ...". Add to this the importance Gill waited on the logistics preceding the interview: "For this story, I was told she would do two interviews on Thursday or Friday, but the exact date couldn't be confirmed.It would depend on how she felt that day. There was no telling how long she might talk. And, of course, the interview wouldn't take place until after 2 p.m.; that's when the night owl typically wakes up." I don't know, something about this building on "objective facts" while deliberatly avoiding context and lacking insight always bothers me A LOT! And what about the poor discernment Gill shows writing about some of (trusting) Joni's spontaneous thoughts (momentarily forgetting she's being interviewed) regarding her relationship with Kilauren: "She and her daughter are currently estranged. She has lots to say about the problems they've encountered. The stories spill out, easily and ugly (sic- unecessary statement)...Until she suddenly remembers this is an interview....Can you please keep the kid out of it? she asks, trustingly. It will only fan the flame. Let's just say it's a work in progress. Sorry for splashing my miscontent this way on such a beautiful sunny Saturday, I felt a little pissed-off after reading this article. We're only particals of change orbiting around the sun, I know I know, and I'm aware other critics have been much harsher at times, but boy does this type of spirit reminds me of the power of breathtaking ignorance. I feel it misses honesty. Cheers my friends. Evelyne. - - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael O'Malley" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 11:45 AM Subject: Joni Mitchell in Person, new G&M article > Joni Mitchell in Person, by ALEXANDRA GILL, From Saturday's Globe and Mail > This is a rather unflattering article/interview from the Calgary ballet > opening. Gill seems obsessed by the fact that Joni is a smoker and devotes > several column inches to the subject. Anyway, there are a few good lines, > such as ``She pauses, staring into space, and then returns with a bang. To > enjoy my music, you need depth and emotionality. Those two traits are bred > out of the white, straight males who control the press. `` Viewers > comments to the article on the website are also interesting ! > > More here, including a glam photo oj Joni taken on opening night in a > dressing room. She's looking rahthah regal... > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070216.wxjoni0217/BNSto ry/Entertainment/home > > Michael in Quebec > > _________________________________________________________________ > Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live > Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:54:05 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell in Person, new G&M article I would have hoped the interviewer would have walked a way thinking...."Wow...what beautiful fresh air she brings round the table....despite all that smoke." "AND....even though she does smoke...it somehow balances her." "Who cares?!" "Live and let live!" "And just to get the interview with one of the greatest singer songwriter's of all time...how lucky am I?" "I must remember to get down on my knees tonight....thank you...thank you..." But desperately trying to be grown-up and oh so sophisticated..chocked-full of the world's idiocy ...we know about all things haute...but just below the surface ...uptight.stupid..scared. And Joni..... my hat off to you for sitting there and taking that crap ....you are a better woman than I. Bree >>Salut ` tous, > >I've read the article and didn't appreciate one bit the way Joni was >portrayed. God, leave her alone with the smoking and concentrate on where >she's coming from (personally AND generation wise, not to say >historically), >what she's pointing to!! Leave the damn shallow journalistic critic lines >and give us the substance we're all desperatly in need of ...... > >I'm not saying Joni should be portrayed like an above faults godess or >anything but come on! > >Gill wrote: >"On surface.... Mitchell's life since then (following Blue and C&S) looks >like that of a troubled diva... she would often berate her audiences if >they >weren't paying close enough attention" . > >or again >"...when Mitchell felt the need to grow as an artist, she turned her back >on >her fans (sic- so unrelevant) and almost abandoned melody altogether ...". > >Add to this the importance Gill waited on the logistics preceding the >interview: >"For this story, I was told she would do two interviews on Thursday or >Friday, but the exact date couldn't be confirmed.It would depend on how she >felt that day. There was no telling how long she might talk. And, of >course, >the interview wouldn't take place until after 2 p.m.; that's when the night >owl typically wakes up." > >I don't know, something about this building on "objective facts" while >deliberatly avoiding context and lacking insight always bothers me A LOT! > >And what about the poor discernment Gill shows writing about some of >(trusting) Joni's spontaneous thoughts (momentarily forgetting she's being >interviewed) regarding her relationship with Kilauren: "She and her >daughter >are currently estranged. She has lots to say about the problems they've >encountered. The stories spill out, easily and ugly (sic- unecessary >statement)...Until she suddenly remembers this is an interview....Can you >please keep the kid out of it? she asks, trustingly. It will only fan the >flame. Let's just say it's a work in progress. > >Sorry for splashing my miscontent this way on such a beautiful sunny >Saturday, I felt a little pissed-off after reading this article. We're only >particals of change orbiting around the sun, I know I know, and I'm aware >other critics have been much harsher at times, but boy does this type of >spirit reminds me of the power of breathtaking ignorance. I feel it misses >honesty. > >Cheers my friends. Evelyne. > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Michael O'Malley" >To: >Cc: >Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 11:45 AM >Subject: Joni Mitchell in Person, new G&M article > > > > Joni Mitchell in Person, by ALEXANDRA GILL, From Saturday's Globe and >Mail > > This is a rather unflattering article/interview from the Calgary ballet > > opening. Gill seems obsessed by the fact that Joni is a smoker and >devotes > > several column inches to the subject. Anyway, there are a few good >lines, > > such as ``She pauses, staring into space, and then returns with a bang. >To > > enjoy my music, you need depth and emotionality. Those two traits are >bred > > out of the white, straight males who control the press. `` Viewers > > comments to the article on the website are also interesting ! > > > > More here, including a glam photo oj Joni taken on opening night in a > > dressing room. She's looking rahthah regal... > > > > >http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070216.wxjoni0217/BNSto >ry/Entertainment/home > > > > Michael in Quebec > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows >Live > > Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca _________________________________________________________________ Find what you need at prices youll love. Compare products and save at MSN. Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701 - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:05:31 -0800 From: "Jill Haas" Subject: Fw: '83 Concert at Irvine Meadows Hi Laurent, As I recall, the concert was an "only Joni" one--she was the headliner. The women behind me were, I'm sure, "fans," but they wanted Joni to keep her wings tucked in. Personally, I've always loved to see her fly. If those fans had their way, we wouldn't have the great body of material she's produced. Her work has a life of its own, IMHO. There were times that it took a bit of patience before I could "get it" when new (and different) material came out, but it always worked its way into my world, and my life is much richer for it. Pardonez mois for the gushing admiration--sometimes I just can't help myself. Jill Laurent wrote: A copy of the Forest Hill TREE is on its way to Michael Paz. I was at Irvine too. Was it the one where Joni opened for Willie Nelson? Lots of Willie fans talking indeed. Joni as usual didn't try pleasing the crowd. That is part of why we love her, isn't it? Laurent Jill wrote: Finally, I did get to see Joni in '83 at Irvine Meadows Amphitheater (CA) and sat second row center. I think I cried through the entire concert, and then at the end threatened to punch out the two women sitting behind me who where criticizing her for playing new material. - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:13:31 +0000 (UTC) From: "anne@sandstrom.com" Subject: Re: JoniFest Hi Steve, I don't want to oversell this, but when I read "I'm hoping the Jonifest might spark the creative feelings I used to have and am looking forward to relaxing and enjoying the excitement and music," I had to smile. Why? Because that's a little like hoping that you won't be too hungry after Thanksgiving dinner. :-) My only advice is to sleep before and plan to sleep after, but don't expect to sleep much DURING JoniFest. You just won't want to. OK, I'll stop now and let the magic unfold for you during 'Fest. lots of love, Anne - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:59:36 -0800 From: "Jill Haas" Subject: Jonifest JMDLers and especially ChuckE: I love y'all, man. Thanks to your generous contributions, I now have a full scholarship that will cover my stay at Jonifest. I'm getting there the old-fashioned way--driving from Seattle so I can bring some goodies--instruments and such. And yet, your kindness continues. ChuckE sent me a check for my first tank of gas at "Barangrill." Bless you, ChuckE. I have been bragging about your generosity to everyone I know. Your gift qualifies as one of the best random acts of kindness I've ever received. In return for all of this love, I'll do my best to fulfill my promise to Paz to take over as "the Human Jukebox" and do whatever I can to make this event fun for all of us. Anybody want to work on a song? I hear that I sing a mean harmony, I play guitar rather sadly, but I do know just about every tuning Joni ever came up with (or can figure it out). I may even bring a dulcimer. Love, Jill - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:01:14 -0600 From: "mia _" Subject: Re: e: Carlos Castaneda not much jc Norma Jean wrote: <> Oh, I totally agree. I love Native American culture, I've loved it since I was a young child. And I totallly get the whole "link with nature" lifestyle - such a beautiful, pure, natural way to live one's life. And I don't even have a problem with the ritualistic hallucinogenic drugs - I have the utmost respect for native cultures. Sometimes I wonder if I have a bit of Native American blood in me. Joni has some, and my grandmother's face looks almost identical to Joni's. Sure, this is much wishful (and probably delusional) thinking on my part; however, my grandmother's background has always been kept a secret from the family, not sure why - it is such a mystery. Regarding Castaneda, I think I just don't like the way his book is written - maybe the writing style - I dunno - it just seems like so many details that would be so pertinent and interesting have been left out. There are gaps or something in the writing, and I get the feeling some of his experiences are made up, but I can't really explain why I feel that. My problem. <> I take it you've been there? You are so fortunate! I've always wanted to explore the Andes. I'd love to hear more about your personal experiences there. My cousin, who married a Peruvian, recently had a baby. The family now refers to the baby as an "Inca Stinka" (tee hee). Mia _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft. Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:58:41 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Jonifest mean harmony, I play guitar rather sadly, but I do know just about every tuning Joni ever came up with (or can figure it out). I may even bring a dulcimer - - ---------------------------- If you bring a dulcimer, will you teach me a bit on how to play it???????? I've been looking around for one.... - - -Monika - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:14:47 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Jonifest And....welcome aboard! I think EVERYONE should go to Jonifest. What could be better? I look forward to meeting you and hearing you play/sing! - - -monika - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:54:12 -0800 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Fw=3A=20=27=38=33=20Concert=20at=20Irvin e=20Meadows=20and=20=38=37=20concert=20at=20pacific=20amphitheater?= hi all First of all i want to apologize for all the typos when i post. i never learned to type and i usually write late at night and can't see or don't care about what i post. so for those of you who have complain sloppy writing. sorry laurent wrote: - - -"Was it the one where Joni opened for Willie Nelson? - - -Lots of Willie fans talking indeed. Joni as usual didn't try pleasing the - - -crowd. That is part of why we love her, isn't it?" ever the intrepid explorer, i'd say. that's a big part of my admiration for the lady. I was at that concert too - it was COWBOYS FOR INDIANS, joni always riding that range, like the games of her childhood. it was a benefit for justice for Leonard Peltier, an American Indian Movement activist, who many believe was framed by the FBI. Kris Kristofferson, willie, joni and many others played. It was at the Pacific Amphitheater, costa mesa in 1987. Joni's talked about it having been a stuck in traffic kinda day. I thought she and willie sang cool water that night. the audience was mostly not there to see her. but i remember wayne playing with her and my floating out after the show. and I was lucky enough to go to all three shows in the la area on her 83 tour. That was a long tour, beginning with the segment in japan and ending i think late in July. I thought joni played the same songs each night but in a different order. the night at irvine meadows was different. Joni seemed to be straining, fighting her way through the songs to. Right after " For Free" joni left the stage leaning on klein, only about 2/3 of the way though the show. there was no "heard it through the grapevine encore that night! remember the crowd booing--does this sound familiar jill? or anyone? somebody said the universal or irvine show was pretty choeorgraphed. imho that was due to klein. the band was actually wearing uniforms, black leather pants and white shirts. Then, she introduced klein as her husband. a big gasp from the crowd! how could this be so? i had heard she'd gotten married but DID NOT BELIEVE IT . crown and anchor joni? i never thought marriage was ever something she'd consider doing again. Do these recollections ring any bells? all so long ago before i realized i should write all things about joni down immediately. - - ---------- Original Message ------------- Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:05:31 -0800 From: "Jill Haas" To: Subject: Fw: '83 Concert at Irvine Meadows >Hi Laurent, >As I recall, the concert was an "only Joni" one--she was the headliner. The >women behind me were, I'm sure, "fans," but they >wanted Joni to keep her wings tucked in. Personally, I've always loved to >see her fly. If those fans had their way, we wouldn't have the great body of >material she's produced. Her work has a life of its own, IMHO. > >There were times that it took a bit of patience before I could "get it" >when new (and different) material came out, but it always worked its way >into my world, and my life is much richer for it. > >Pardonez mois for the gushing admiration--sometimes I just can't help >myself. > >Jill > >Jill also wrote: > >Finally, I did get to see Joni in '83 at Irvine Meadows Amphitheater (CA) >and sat second row center. I think I cried through the entire concert, and >then at the end threatened to punch out the two women sitting behind me who >where criticizing her for playing new material. - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:43:33 -0800 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Joni=20memories=20not=20really=20jc?= what a great remininse. it's funny so many can totally visualize and remember the first time they heard joni. for me it was when i was i my bedroom supposedly doing marine biology homework, instead dancing around, listening to knx, a popular fm station in la, and i heard someone singing my beloved "clouds" and i thought badly mauling it. i waited to hear who had dared ruin that song- they announced joni mitchell. ( i'd always loved that songits words and the tune and had sung along from the bottom of my heart with judy collins. so so pret-ty! a little later i found out joni had written it and intrigued i began to explore the world with joni a guide. we all come and go unknown. god after my first soul shattering breakup how that resonated in my soul. - - ---------- Original Message ------------- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:38:35 -0800 From: "Jenny Goodspeed" To: jmdl Subject: Joni moments this past week or so >Joni moment # 1: There was a short discussion here about the new Court and >Spark book and the author said he first heard Joni on AM Radio - the song >'Help Me'. Well that's how I first heard Joni - Help Me on AM radio - and >it was one of those pivotal little moments in life that send you on a >slightly different path than you would have been on without it. So that >made me smile. > >That day turned out to be a long one and I felt under the weather and was >exhausted, but I had to go to the pharmacy after work and I was dreading it >b/c I was so beat. So I dragged my butt into the CVS and stood there for a >moment trying to muster up some energy when "Help Me" came on over the loud >speaker and everything got much better after that. > >Joni moment #2: That weekend I whisked my better half up to Vermont for an >impromptu birthday celebration. We had a lovely time and I didn't want it >to end, so I was determined to take the back roads home. All of them. No >highways allowed. I put Hejira on and it was the perfect catalyst for an >hour or so of bliss. Winding roads I'd never been on before, a fresh cover >of snow, woods and farms, and new england main streets and the sun on it's >way to setting. > >For once I didn't sing along, I just listened. And the great thing about >Hejira is, even if you've listened to it for more than half your life, you >*still* hear a lyric you never heard before, or you understand a song in a >new way. Anyway, it was magical, and it's tough for me to capture in words >(need Mags or Lucy or someone like that) but i had to share that with people >that might actually understand the experience. > >Hejira and winter go hand and hand. Hm, if Hejira is winter, and HOSL is >summer, what is spring and what is autumn? > >Jenny - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 20:15:59 -0800 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20=33=33=20=31=2F=33=20Court=20and=20Spark =20book?= obviously the writer loved joni's work and this little book will turn some people on to her talent and . that is cool and magical. BUT hey i wasn't enamoured either. with me it's a gut reaction thing. emotion. Joni's peak period? please. his thoughts just kept on coming - where was the space? breathy. Just like this train, not shaking into town but speeding away with you along. that's a hard style to master. some can and others need to edit. funny comment from the typo queen eh? seemed like a thesis or a master's i thought. nice tight focus analysis line by line. y'all read it and see where it leads you. i just wish joni would get around to writing her own book. - - ---------- Original Message ------------- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:34:59 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" To: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Re: 33 1/3 Court and Spark book >From: "Richard Flynn" > >>I don't get it, Randy. Am I the only person who thought this book was >> dreadful? >> > >SO FAR - but most people haven't read it yet. - ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #53 ******************************** - ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm) ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:23:52 -0500 From: srobe444@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #55 I agree absolutely with everyone who has commented on the risks she has taken and the musical growth. That is why I found the last couple disappointing, because there wasn't the same sign of change or risk taking. But I disagree that she is unique in this regard: Beatles, anyone? Rubber Soul cost them fans, Then came Revolver, then Sgt. Pepper's etc. In a different vein, look at the Bee Gees, who started out as folk, then moved into art rock and then became millionaires finding disco, which says something about somebody. BTW, the Bee Gees' Odessa is one of my favorite albums from that time. If you haven't heard it, you are missing something. Steve Roberts -----Original Message----- From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Sent: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 3:00 AM Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #55 onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, February 20 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 055 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- The Nara sessions! ["vincenzo mancini" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #54 [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: I had forgot.....Joni's piano playing... ["Jill Haas" ] Jonifest-- Hejira and Dulcimer ["Jill Haas" ] sjc, aim the hoses on the "Bush bonfires" ["Patti Parlette" Subject: The Nara sessions! You can see them at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70LXLE3CkJk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w0CJbMOVVc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25MF9j4N5G0 Vincenzo - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger Download today it's FREE! - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:01:54 EST From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #54 In a message dated 02/19/2007 3:00:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: I would have to say that the album DJRD contains her most interesting work in terms of guitar composition, and is way up there on my favorites list overall. Unlike Kakki, I love Hejira - she was thinking, thinking, and I love to think, think and hear Joni thinking, thinking. Then, one record later, she changes pace, and is living, living, reckless multiplicity. Unconscious. The incredible progression of the seven record span from LOTC to DJRD is truly mind blowing to me - not a mediocre song in the entire span, and the end is nothing like the beginning. Mingus represented a diversion of sorts and a deflection of sorts, as the work was not all hers, and her subsequent work went in a very different direction althogether. I repeat my earlier query as to what her next record would have been like if Mingus had not beckoned. She was on her way out of orbit altogether, and then she sort of found her way back to earth - - - - maybe something about getting married, I dunno. At that time, she had lost me anyway - glad I eventually caught up. I totally agree with this. I've always like DJRD, but didn't get a CD copy till a year ago. Then I started listing to it while I ran because it's perhaps her best album for this sport. The title cut is on my steroid play list because it really makes me move. Makes my head move - I love the lyrics. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:12:28 -0800 From: "Jill Haas" Subject: Re: I had forgot.....Joni's piano playing... monika said: So what are your favorite piano parts/piano songs by Joni? Why those? Sorry I'm in a bit of a hurry, but I thought I'd put in my three cents: Down to You-- Court and Spark Judgement of the Moon and Stars (Ludwig's Tune) --For the Roses Paprika Plains--Don Juan's Reckless Daughter Even if I had the time, I don't know if I could elaborate on why I find the piano on these songs so beautiful. They just are. IMHO. Jill - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:22:55 -0800 From: "Jill Haas" Subject: Re: CBC documentary 1/28 and Songwriters Hall of fame 1/29 Hi Jmdlers-- I have finally made my copy of the CBC documentary (1/28) and Songwriters Hall of fame (1/29), (three discs, thank you Doug), and am re-offering it to the list. First come, first served! Write me off-list with your address and I'll send it off to you. Jill Hi Jill I'll have everything on CD. The 2 hour Hall of Fame radio special is on tonight. Doug Jill Haas wrote: I spent the whole 2 hours of the CBC show trying to get my gol darn !%#$!!#*#%#^^*!! computer to let me listen to the streaming audio. I updated software. I begged and pleaded with the gods of computer goombah and voodoo. No luck. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:50:06 -0800 From: "Jill Haas" Subject: Re: Fw: '83 Concert at Irvin e Meadows and 87 concert at pacific amphitheater Lesli, Yes, that rings a hell of a bell. I think that's why I was so angry at the people sitting behind me. I am of the school of "play what you want, Joni," and felt that the crowd was rude and unappreciative. It was my first time seeing her--I was in heaven and I couldn't believe that I was so out of sync with the rest of the audience and that people were behaving like creeps (that's the censored version of what I really want to say...). Jill From Lesli: I thought joni played the same songs each night but in a different order. the night at irvine meadows was different. Joni seemed to be straining, fighting her way through the songs to. Right after " For Free" joni left the stage leaning on klein, only about 2/3 of the way though the show. there was no "heard it through the grapevine encore that night! remember the crowd booing--does this sound familiar jill? or anyone? From Jill: >Hi Laurent, >Finally, I did get to see Joni in '83 at Irvine Meadows Amphitheater (CA) >and sat second row center. I think I cried through the entire concert, and >then at the end threatened to punch out the two women sitting behind me who >where criticizing her for playing new material. They were, I'm sure, "fans," but they >wanted Joni to keep her wings tucked in. Personally, I've always loved to >see her fly. If those fans had their way, we wouldn't have the great body of >material she's produced. Her work has a life of its own, IMHO. > >There were times that it took a bit of patience before I could "get it" >when new (and different) material came out, but it always worked its way >into my world, and my life is much richer for it. > >Pardonez mois for the gushing admiration--sometimes I just can't help >myself. > >Jill - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:29:59 -0700 From: "Dr. Katherine Whited" Subject: LOTC - DJRD Transitions & Evolutions Other than Joni, I am not aware of any musician in history with the talent and courage it takes to make such sweeping changes in their music. I was a folk singer/songwriter during her first transition period and I seriously missed her STAS  LOTC sound. But when I just relaxed and listened with no judgments (no projecting my own expectations) I not only enjoyed her music but also grew musically. A friend and I were sharing a bottle of wine in my shabby apartment on the beach listening to the new HOSL (8-track of course) and discussing how much Joni & Paul Simon had changed when it suddenly dawned on me that all of us had changed musically and personally since the days of STAS. I let go of my resistance that night, kinda like a light switch going on and as a result Joni's music has introduced me to wonderful new loves: harp guitar, world music, jazz, fingerstyle guitar...etc. Then there's the world of AMAZING artists that opened up like Jaco, Michael Hedges, etc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgKB8zG5qP0 MHO in a nutshell about that transition between LOTC and DJRD is that while its true that people have a tendency to resist change, I'm glad that we've chosen to "thaw out' and appreciate her ever-evolving music.(You know it never has been easy whether you do or you do not resign, whether you travel the breadth of extremities or stick to some straighter line....you're either gonna thaw out or freeze.) I am so eager to hear her new music! Has anyone heard any of it, yet? Whoever wrote : "I love Hejira - she was thinking, thinking, and I love to think, think and hear Joni thinking, thinking. Then, one record later, she changes pace, and is living, living, reckless multiplicity. " I love that! Its so true! When I first heard her on DJRD with the driving world beat, Jaco's bass, well all of it just knocked my socks off then took me prisoner and I couldn't play anything else for a long time. I totally get where it'd be a great steroid running partner. However, Hejira remains my favorite album to date. Okay, perhaps my own affinity for the road is a big influence, but I really love that relaxed smoothness of Hejira. Listening to Hejira is like slipping on a favorite pair of old silk pajamas, perfect fit and feels so good. Katherine - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:42:29 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: CBC documentary 1/28 and Songwriters Hall of fame 1/29 I was also a beneficiary of Doug's kindness and I'd be happy to send out two or three copies of this set, if anyone cares to mail me off-list. I also have the Forest Hills show from DIME (thanks, Dave!) - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jill Haas Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:23 PM To: dmeek@marketbridge.ca; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: CBC documentary 1/28 and Songwriters Hall of fame 1/29 Hi Jmdlers-- I have finally made my copy of the CBC documentary (1/28) and Songwriters Hall of fame (1/29), (three discs, thank you Doug), and am re-offering it to the list. First come, first served! Write me off-list with your address and I'll send it off to you. Jill Hi Jill I'll have everything on CD. The 2 hour Hall of Fame radio special is on tonight. Doug Jill Haas wrote: I spent the whole 2 hours of the CBC show trying to get my gol darn !%#$!!#*#%#^^*!! computer to let me listen to the streaming audio. I updated software. I begged and pleaded with the gods of computer goombah and voodoo. No luck. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:02:50 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: LOTC - DJRD Transitions & Evolutions All this talk about Hejira makes me oh so curious. I've seen a lot of people here considering it their favorite album. This weekend I'm going to the the Xchange (a music store) to buy a cd or two and I think I may just grab Hejira and give it a go without really knowing it beforehand. I've only bought a few albums without trying them out or hearing some songs in one manner or another beforehand. However, my biggest and greatest surprises were For The Roses and Neil Young's Tonight's The Night. I didn't hear a song from both but just bought them on an impulse and could have not been more pleased. Perhaps this could be like that? What's life if you're not spontaneous...even with the little things? I guess we'll see! I'll let you know after this weekend, haha! - - -Monika - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:47:09 -0800 From: Subject: Globe & Mail Joni article Ha - I could write endlessly about this article but in the end the thought that comes most to my mind is that Joni kept the writer up all night talking and the writer, probably being under a deadline, just slopped it together. Kind of like some college students who party all night and then throw the term paper together an hour before class the next day! ;-) One quibble - this is the second article from the Canadian press that says she lives in Beverly Hills. She doesn't but hey, maybe she is telling them that to throw them off the trail? Also I found it kind of funny and ironic that Joni criticizes the "white, straight male" interviewers who are so shallow emotionally and who don't get her, yet here we have what appears to be a female interviewer bringing new meaning to the term "shallow." Laughing it all away... and I hope Joni is, too. Kakki - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:26:04 -0800 From: "Jill Haas" Subject: Jonifest-- Hejira and Dulcimer Hey Moni, I doubt you'll regret the purchase (Hejira). First, it will grow on you, and then it will grow in you. There are years of pleasure in that small package. BTW, I will be happy to show you everything I know on dulcimer, which is not much as I've let myself get pretty rusty. Luckily, it's a fairly simple instrument. If you care to, listen to "California" and "A Case of You" and we'll figure out the chords together. I've been playing and singing to the point where I'm hoarse and my guitar fingers are killing me. There's a lot of catching up to do after years of neglecting practice, but I'm having more fun than a puppy. Jill Monika writes: All this talk about Hejira makes me oh so curious. I've seen a lot of people here considering it their favorite album. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 04:45:15 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: sjc, aim the hoses on the "Bush bonfires" From our own Jonimitchell.com, here is part of the Trailblazer Interview by Camille Paglia, August 2005: CP: You have a fire image on the front of Dreamland. JM: Oh, that's just George W. Bush burning down the world. All my paintings lately have been Bush bonfires. It's the same as the forest fire in Bambi, with the hideous white hunger. - - ----------------------- Let's aim the hoses on them! If you agree that a surge in troops just pours gasoline on these bonfires -- if you are against the escalation -- please take a few seconds to go to Harry's House: http://www.giveemhellharry.com/page/petition/Escalation/fdikdp If you're feeling contempt, well then you tell it! And here's another place you can tell it: http://pol.moveon.org/lettertocongress/?id=9899-1448109-b78bwy&t=2 "Speak out, you got to speak out against the madness, You got to speak your mind if you dare." -- David Crosby Thank you so much for taking the time. And my apologies to the non-Americans here for the bandwith, and for what our country has done to the world. Love & Peace, Patti P. "We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people." - - -- Martin Luther King, Jr. "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." - - --- Margaret Mead You say we have turned Like the enemies you've earned But we can remember All the good things you are And so we ask you please Can we help you find the peace and the star Oh my friend We have all come To fear the beating of your drum - - -- Joni Mitchell _________________________________________________________________ Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for FREE. http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline - ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #55 ******************************** - ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm) ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. 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