From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #78 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, February 20 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 078 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- a dream about Joni [LCStanley7@aol.com] BSN change in style? [missblux@googlemail.com] Joni at Club 47, Jan '68 [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20LOTC=20=2D=20DJRD=20Transitions=20=26=20 Evolutions?= ["=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" ] Re: BSN change in style? [Michael Flaherty ] Re: gay and jmdl, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: gay and jmdl, njc [Jerry Notaro ] Re: For The Roses for the hippies? ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: BSN change in style? ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: For The Roses for the hippies? [Jerry Notaro ] Re: LOTC - DJRD Transitions & Evolutions ["Randy Remote" ] Re: LOTC - DJRD Transitions & Evolutions [waytoblue@comcast.net] Re: Presevation Hall Jazz Band (njc) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Jonifest-- Hejira and Dulcimer ["Jill Haas" ] Re: Cyndi Lauper's performance of "Carey" [Paul In MD Subject: Re: Transitions & Evolutions (njc) For one thing, I wouldn't count BSN as a sweeping change in style. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:48:31 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Joni at Club 47, Jan '68 http://hear-rock-city.blogspot.com/2007/02/joni-mitchell-at-club-47-1968.html A very nice performance for those who have not heard it. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Pasties & A G-String" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Not being a musician or anything but Miles davis comes to mind. - ---------- Original Message ------------- Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:29:59 -0800 From: "Dr. Katherine Whited" To: "JMDL LIST" Subject: LOTC - DJRD Transitions & Evolutions >Other than Joni, I am not aware of any musician in history with the talent >and courage it takes to make such sweeping changes in their music. I was a >folk singer/songwriter during her first transition period and I seriously >missed her STAS  LOTC sound. But when I just relaxed and listened with no >judgments (no projecting my own expectations) I not only enjoyed her music >but also grew musically. > >A friend and I were sharing a bottle of wine in my shabby apartment on the >beach listening to the new HOSL (8-track of course) and discussing how much >Joni & Paul Simon had changed when it suddenly dawned on me that all of us >had changed musically and personally since the days of STAS. I let go of my >resistance that night, kinda like a light switch going on and as a result >Joni's music has introduced me to wonderful new loves: harp guitar, world >music, jazz, fingerstyle guitar...etc. Then there's the world of AMAZING >artists that opened up like Jaco, Michael Hedges, etc >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgKB8zG5qP0 > >MHO in a nutshell about that transition between LOTC and DJRD is that while >its true that people have a tendency to resist change, I'm glad that we've >chosen to "thaw out' and appreciate her ever-evolving music.(You know it >never has been easy whether you do or you do not resign, whether you travel >the breadth of extremities or stick to some straighter line....you're either >gonna thaw out or freeze.) > >I am so eager to hear her new music! Has anyone heard any of it, yet? > >Whoever wrote : "I love Hejira - she was thinking, thinking, and I >love to >think, think and hear Joni thinking, thinking. Then, one record later, she >changes pace, and is living, living, reckless multiplicity. " > I love that! Its so true! When I first heard her on DJRD with the driving >world beat, Jaco's bass, well all of it just knocked my socks off then took >me prisoner and I couldn't play anything else for a long time. I totally get >where it'd be a great steroid running partner. However, Hejira remains my >favorite album to date. Okay, perhaps my own affinity for the road is a big >influence, but I really love that relaxed smoothness of Hejira. Listening to >Hejira is like slipping on a favorite pair of old silk pajamas, perfect fit >and feels so good. >Katherine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:43:39 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: Re: BSN change in style? I love BSN as well and I would count it as one of my favorite albums by Joni. After catching her performance at Chastain (along with Muller and several other jmdl folk) my appreciation of it grew, having had a chance to see these songs live. It gave them a warmth that seems to be lacking in the recording which would be my only criticism of BSN. I would like to see it remastered though considering how long the others are taking I'll probably have to wait till 2020. Victor -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: missblux@googlemail.com > But, BSN fan as I am, I keep wondering what it is about this album > that makes me rate it as second after Hejira, whereas so many people > will rate it as number 20 (or however many albums she made). I copy > Laurent in on this because we discussed the album when we met in > London, and Mack, a fellow BSN enthusiast. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:48:58 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: Re: Transitions & Evolutions (njc) Miles Davis certainly fits this description. Just compare "Workin", "Smokin", to his Gil Evans collaborations (Sketches of Spain, Porgy and Bess, etc..) to "Bitches Brew" and his later recordings of performances in Japan...a pioneer definately in combining traditional jazz and rock and roll, creating his own unique brand of fusion. I've been reading his autobiography which I highly recommend. Victor -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "LESLI A WATTS" > Kathrine wrote: "Other than Joni, I am not aware of any musician in history > with the talent and courage it takes to make such sweeping changes in their > music." > > Not being a musician or anything but Miles davis comes to mind. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 07:03:22 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: a dream about Joni -- NJC Laura writes: << I woke up before the concernt unfortunately. >> Laura, I have had that dream. You didn't miss anything. Her cat got sick and she cancelled. - --Smurf . _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 07:24:07 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: BSN change in style? Just some thoughts on the morning's posts: I'll admit that BSN etc. worked better live, although it's hard to tell how much of that was being in Joni's presence (I was so close I could see the lines in her face). I still prefer the small groups, even from a distance. Change in style: For Joni, yes, for music, no. In other words, it was something different for her, but not innovative in the way much of her catalog is. Finally, yes, for whatever it's worth, Miles Davis changed his style more often, more dramatically, with more innovation and had more influence to music in general than Joni (who has compared Miles to Picasso). (Don't get mad: the BSN comments are just my opinion; the Miles a simple fact.) :-) Michael Flaherty _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:02:14 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: gay and jmdl, njc Lori wrote: > It would be interesting, though, to figure out exactly how many > GLBT people there are on this list. > Hi Lori, It might be easier to count how many aren't. Love, Laurabi NP: my cat with a stray E string on my floor from when I changed my strings the other day ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:21:21 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: gay and jmdl, njc It's not difficult to find a group or activity that lesbians seem to like, or gay men, but I said it often before that outside of Gay Pride Celebrations, the JMDL is one of the few groups I have been involved in that attracts so many gay men and women. It is also mysteriously true of my profession, librarian. I guess the only conclusion is that the one thing gay men and women have in common is intellect, compassion, creativity, and a love of knowledge :) Jerry > Lori wrote: > > >> It would be interesting, though, to figure out exactly how many >> GLBT people there are on this list. >> > > Hi Lori, > > It might be easier to count how many aren't. > > Love, > Laurabi > > NP: my cat with a stray E string on my floor from when I changed my strings > the other day ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:48:22 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Re: For The Roses for the hippies? Hi, I would agree to your choice of Woodstock, Sisotowbell Lane and Morning Morgantown, and come to think of it, Ladies of the Canyon (the song) could also be on your list, but for the rest I think these are songs that are not specific to the hippie movement, with the possible exception of Blue - where Joni on the other hand declares that she does not think (drug)hell is the hippest way to go. The same sort of criticism then as in Roses Blue. Of course, this could be an endless topic, depending on how we define the hippy era. Marion - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:48 AM Subject: Re: For The Roses for the hippies? > In a message dated 2/13/2007, Marion wrote: > > "Hi, I am new on this list so maybe I shouldn't jump in yet but I just > have > to say that I totally agree, Joni never made any hippie album (and yes, I > am > old enough to remember the sixties). Then again, it could be discussed > what > defines "hippie music"? The Byrds came pretty close, I think...And some > of > Joni's songs could certainly qualify, for example Woodstock and Roses > Blue. > But never an entire album, and she had definitely grown out of the hippie > scene by Blue. > Love to you all, > Marion" > > > I think that Joni would agree. From "The Boho Zone" > > "I was a hopeful in rooms like this > When I was working cheap > It's an old romance the Boho dance > It hasn't gone to sleep > > But even on the scuffle > The cleaner's press was in my jeans > And any eye for detail > Caught a little lace along the seams..................... > > Nothing is capsulized in me > On either side of town > The streets were never really mine > Not mine, not mine, these glamour gowns" > > > Along the lines of "never an album, but maybe a song" (never is a big > word) > - > > I would agree with your choice of Woodstock, although it not only captures > the spirit of the movement and the event, but has a timelessness about it > that > reflects the best of that movement. And, by use of the first person, Joni > throws her hat into the spirit - "We've got to get ourselves back to the > garden". > > I do not really agree with Roses Blue, which is to me more a troubled if > not > scathing commentary on the foibles of the scene and its shortcomings - not > to say potential failings (directionally, think Charles Manson). > > Morning Morgantown comes closer to the genre, IMO. Or Sisotowbell Lane. Or > even Chelsea Morning. Or Morning Morgantown. And you know there may be > more > :-) Maybe we could collect a dozen and make an album of them after > all........ > :-) > > OK here goes my shot at songs that IMO capture a bit of the hippie > sentiment > - all from Joni's first 4 albums. I like all the songs, but I'm glad she > spread them out ;-) > > Michael From Mountains > Marcie > Nathan La Franeer > Sisotowbell Lane > Chelsea Morning > The Fiddle and the Drum > Morning Morgantown > Big Yellow Taxi > Woodstock > All I Want > My Old Man > California > > Bobsart > > PS - on the subject of sad songs, two sad ones from PP&M that always got > to > me were their cover of Bob Dylan's Dream, and The Great Mandella. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:01:34 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: For The Roses for the hippies? does the song make you smell strawberry incense in your mind? then its probably a hippe song. Or patchouli. Thats's my hippie song filter. Even sandalwood! :) Em - --- Marion Leffler wrote: > > Of course, this could be an endless topic, depending on how we define > the > hippy era. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:04:05 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Re: BSN change in style? God how I envy you lucky so and so's :-) who get so see Joni perform! I love Both Sides Now, especially the song. I can't decide though which of the two versions I like better but the latest one surely has the quality of life experience that gives it much more character and credibility than the first one, while in the first version it's Joni's beautiful voice that makes the song. I remember thinking when I first heard the 60's version "How can she now know all that yet, she's too young". Well, now that she knows she sings it with so much more feeling and conviction. As for her voice having "detoriated" - well, it has aged like the rest of her body. I read a really nasty article (by whom I've forgotten now but it's in the jmdl-library) where the journalist was saying something like "Gee, Joni, if you had to make this album, couldn't you have done it before your voice broke?" Now, why should the voice of a mature woman sound like that of a young girl? Wouldn't that be kind of creepy? Just wondering... From up North in Europe Marion - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; "Joni LIST" ; "Laurent Olszer" ; Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Re: BSN change in style? >I love BSN as well and I would count it as one of my favorite albums by >Joni. After catching her performance at Chastain (along with Muller and >several other jmdl folk) my appreciation of it grew, having had a chance to >see these songs live. It gave them a warmth that seems to be lacking in >the recording which would be my only criticism of BSN. I would like to see >it remastered though considering how long the others are taking I'll >probably have to wait till 2020. > > Victor > > > > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: missblux@googlemail.com > >> But, BSN fan as I am, I keep wondering what it is about this album >> that makes me rate it as second after Hejira, whereas so many people >> will rate it as number 20 (or however many albums she made). I copy >> Laurent in on this because we discussed the album when we met in >> London, and Mack, a fellow BSN enthusiast. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:25:10 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: For The Roses for the hippies? And I would add that we who were attracted and listening to this music were no more authentic hippie than the white suburban kids who listen to hip hop and rap. Jerry > Hi, > I would agree to your choice of Woodstock, Sisotowbell Lane and Morning > Morgantown, and come to think of it, Ladies of the Canyon (the song) could > also be on your list, but for the rest I think these are songs that are not > specific to the hippie movement, with the possible exception of Blue - where > Joni on the other hand declares that she does not think (drug)hell is the > hippest way to go. The same sort of criticism then as in Roses Blue. > Of course, this could be an endless topic, depending on how we define the > hippy era. > Marion > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:48 AM > Subject: Re: For The Roses for the hippies? > > >> In a message dated 2/13/2007, Marion wrote: >> >> "Hi, I am new on this list so maybe I shouldn't jump in yet but I just >> have >> to say that I totally agree, Joni never made any hippie album (and yes, I >> am >> old enough to remember the sixties). Then again, it could be discussed >> what >> defines "hippie music"? The Byrds came pretty close, I think...And some >> of >> Joni's songs could certainly qualify, for example Woodstock and Roses >> Blue. >> But never an entire album, and she had definitely grown out of the hippie >> scene by Blue. >> Love to you all, >> Marion" >> >> >> I think that Joni would agree. From "The Boho Zone" >> >> "I was a hopeful in rooms like this >> When I was working cheap >> It's an old romance the Boho dance >> It hasn't gone to sleep >> >> But even on the scuffle >> The cleaner's press was in my jeans >> And any eye for detail >> Caught a little lace along the seams..................... >> >> Nothing is capsulized in me >> On either side of town >> The streets were never really mine >> Not mine, not mine, these glamour gowns" >> >> >> Along the lines of "never an album, but maybe a song" (never is a big >> word) >> - >> >> I would agree with your choice of Woodstock, although it not only captures >> the spirit of the movement and the event, but has a timelessness about it >> that >> reflects the best of that movement. And, by use of the first person, Joni >> throws her hat into the spirit - "We've got to get ourselves back to the >> garden". >> >> I do not really agree with Roses Blue, which is to me more a troubled if >> not >> scathing commentary on the foibles of the scene and its shortcomings - not >> to say potential failings (directionally, think Charles Manson). >> >> Morning Morgantown comes closer to the genre, IMO. Or Sisotowbell Lane. Or >> even Chelsea Morning. Or Morning Morgantown. And you know there may be >> more >> :-) Maybe we could collect a dozen and make an album of them after >> all........ >> :-) >> >> OK here goes my shot at songs that IMO capture a bit of the hippie >> sentiment >> - all from Joni's first 4 albums. I like all the songs, but I'm glad she >> spread them out ;-) >> >> Michael From Mountains >> Marcie >> Nathan La Franeer >> Sisotowbell Lane >> Chelsea Morning >> The Fiddle and the Drum >> Morning Morgantown >> Big Yellow Taxi >> Woodstock >> All I Want >> My Old Man >> California >> >> Bobsart >> >> PS - on the subject of sad songs, two sad ones from PP&M that always got >> to >> me were their cover of Bob Dylan's Dream, and The Great Mandella. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:33:33 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: LOTC - DJRD Transitions & Evolutions > Kathrine wrote: "Other than Joni, I am not aware of any musician in > history with the talent and courage it takes to make such sweeping changes > in their music." > > Not being a musician or anything but Miles davis comes to mind. > The Beatles- it's a long, long way from "She Loves You" to "A Day In The Life". Every year for five years, they made an innovative step forward. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:34:17 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Leslie's post about Paz and Preservation Hall (njc) Hi Leslie! So glad you had a great time with Paz and the band! He was here a couple of weeks ago and I had a great time with all of them as well! You are so right! It is impossible to keep up with the Pazman! He constantly inspires me! Wasn't the show great! I was mesmerized the whole time! I had to share the band with the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra and would love to see them just do their own thing for the entire show! That would be so cool! So glad you had a great time! I encourage everyone to see the Preservation Hall Band if they can! They are consummate musicians and you will feel like you are in the Big Easy with the first note! Sherelle Leslie wrote: uh oh sorry about that blank pallette post. tired after trying to keep up with the paz. impossible. pete and i met paz last night and saw the preservation jazz band. It was a great show, good music, the audience following the band on stage, dancing and lots of umbrellas. necklaces were thrown. . he was everywhere at once and when we finally caught up with him he was in the lobby working his butt off. the band had just driven in from tucson. kakki, her mom, dorothy, steve and michele dulson were there to create lots of revelry. we found a restaurant which served the requisite martinis. we all had a good time getting to know each other. pete and i left around 9 and the others climbed aboard the bus and played? until god knows when. _________________________________________________________________ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:49:27 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Re: For The Roses for the hippies? Right! I wasn't even attracted to the hippie movement but I loved the music. Marion - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Notaro" To: "Marion Leffler" ; ; "Joni List" Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 6:25 PM Subject: Re: For The Roses for the hippies? > And I would add that we who were attracted and listening to this music > were > no more authentic hippie than the white suburban kids who listen to hip > hop > and rap. > > Jerry > > >> Hi, >> I would agree to your choice of Woodstock, Sisotowbell Lane and Morning >> Morgantown, and come to think of it, Ladies of the Canyon (the song) >> could >> also be on your list, but for the rest I think these are songs that are >> not >> specific to the hippie movement, with the possible exception of Blue - >> where >> Joni on the other hand declares that she does not think (drug)hell is the >> hippest way to go. The same sort of criticism then as in Roses Blue. >> Of course, this could be an endless topic, depending on how we define the >> hippy era. >> Marion >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:48 AM >> Subject: Re: For The Roses for the hippies? >> >> >>> In a message dated 2/13/2007, Marion wrote: >>> >>> "Hi, I am new on this list so maybe I shouldn't jump in yet but I just >>> have >>> to say that I totally agree, Joni never made any hippie album (and yes, >>> I >>> am >>> old enough to remember the sixties). Then again, it could be discussed >>> what >>> defines "hippie music"? The Byrds came pretty close, I think...And some >>> of >>> Joni's songs could certainly qualify, for example Woodstock and Roses >>> Blue. >>> But never an entire album, and she had definitely grown out of the >>> hippie >>> scene by Blue. >>> Love to you all, >>> Marion" >>> >>> >>> I think that Joni would agree. From "The Boho Zone" >>> >>> "I was a hopeful in rooms like this >>> When I was working cheap >>> It's an old romance the Boho dance >>> It hasn't gone to sleep >>> >>> But even on the scuffle >>> The cleaner's press was in my jeans >>> And any eye for detail >>> Caught a little lace along the seams..................... >>> >>> Nothing is capsulized in me >>> On either side of town >>> The streets were never really mine >>> Not mine, not mine, these glamour gowns" >>> >>> >>> Along the lines of "never an album, but maybe a song" (never is a big >>> word) >>> - >>> >>> I would agree with your choice of Woodstock, although it not only >>> captures >>> the spirit of the movement and the event, but has a timelessness about >>> it >>> that >>> reflects the best of that movement. And, by use of the first person, >>> Joni >>> throws her hat into the spirit - "We've got to get ourselves back to >>> the >>> garden". >>> >>> I do not really agree with Roses Blue, which is to me more a troubled if >>> not >>> scathing commentary on the foibles of the scene and its shortcomings - >>> not >>> to say potential failings (directionally, think Charles Manson). >>> >>> Morning Morgantown comes closer to the genre, IMO. Or Sisotowbell Lane. >>> Or >>> even Chelsea Morning. Or Morning Morgantown. And you know there may be >>> more >>> :-) Maybe we could collect a dozen and make an album of them after >>> all........ >>> :-) >>> >>> OK here goes my shot at songs that IMO capture a bit of the hippie >>> sentiment >>> - all from Joni's first 4 albums. I like all the songs, but I'm glad >>> she >>> spread them out ;-) >>> >>> Michael From Mountains >>> Marcie >>> Nathan La Franeer >>> Sisotowbell Lane >>> Chelsea Morning >>> The Fiddle and the Drum >>> Morning Morgantown >>> Big Yellow Taxi >>> Woodstock >>> All I Want >>> My Old Man >>> California >>> >>> Bobsart >>> >>> PS - on the subject of sad songs, two sad ones from PP&M that always >>> got >>> to >>> me were their cover of Bob Dylan's Dream, and The Great Mandella. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:02:31 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: Re: Leslie's post about Paz and Preservation Hall (njc) My turn in May!!!!! Whoohoooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Victor, who just emailed a bid to sing both the Canadian and Mexican national anthems for a conference of roughly 500 state troopers. Keep your fingers crossed. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Sherelle Smith" > Hi Leslie! > > So glad you had a great time with Paz and the band! He was here a couple of > weeks ago and I had a great time with all of them as well! You are so right! > It is impossible to keep up with the Pazman! He constantly inspires me! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:07:31 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: The Nara sessions! Thank you so much Vincenzo for sharing these clips! They are absolutely wonderful! I am also a Michael McDonald fan and post on his board. I have been trying to turn as many on to Joni as possible and am doing a good job. Everyone thre now knows to associate me with Joni. Anyway, I shared these links straightaway with them! Michael's wife Amy is a very big fan of Joni's as well. Thank you again! From: "vincenzo mancini" You can see them at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70LXLE3CkJk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w0CJbMOVVc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25MF9j4N5G0 Vincenzo _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft. Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:11:08 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: Re: LOTC - DJRD Transitions & Evolutions -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Randy Remote" > > Kathrine wrote: "Other than Joni, I am not aware of any musician in > > history with the talent and courage it takes to make such sweeping changes > > in their music." > > > > Not being a musician or anything but Miles davis comes to mind. > > > The Beatles- it's a long, long way from "She Loves You" to > "A Day In The Life". Every year for five years, they made > an innovative step forward. Upon further thought, I would also add Stevie Wonder...its a long way from teenage wonder Stevie to Innervisions and Songs in the Key of Life. During that 70's period he made an innovative step with every album. Jethro Tull comes to mind as well. Their first album "This Was", simple blues and flirtation with jazz (Serenade to a Cuckoo) to albums like "Benefit", then the complex orchestration of "Thick as Brick" and "Passion Play" to the modern electronic sound of "Broadsword and the Beast" and "Under Wraps." John Coltrane, who's probably had even more of an impact on jazz than even Miles, and I don't know why I just thought of this but Frank Zappa probably has everyone beat. Joni is a bright star, yes, but there are many that make up the constellation of groundbreaking, innovative music that took great courage and devotion. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:13:26 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Presevation Hall Jazz Band (njc) Hi Kakki! I just responded to Lesli's post urging everyone to go if they could! I had a wonderful time as well and was so, so touched by the musicianship as well as the heart of the band! They are terrific and that's an understatement! I am so, so very happy that you mother had such a great time! What a joy to hear! I can totally relate to her joyful abandon! Preservation Hall has a way of bringing that out of you! I've never been to "Nawlins" but I felt like I was there when I was sitting in that seat! so wonderful! Glad you had a great time with the Pazman as well! Love, Sherelle From: Kakki A few of the SoCal JMDL'ers had the wonderful chance to meet up yesterday to see the Preservation Hall Jazz Band in Cerritos. Below is a link to the tour schedule. This is a MUST SEE/ATTEND/JUMP and JIVE event! It was absolutely outstanding! Plus, the after-party events with Mr. Paz are always stellar and fun! I took my own mama and she went nuts with joy. This was my parents' own favorite music, having honeymooned in Nawlins and spending other trips there over the years. I grew up listening to so much of it. For my mom it was like us seeing Joni after a 50 year absence ;-) She was a complete groupie with some of the band members - haha! Beyond this being a totally classic experience, you will also see some of the most accomplished musicians you have ever heard. Just amazing. Thanks SO much to Paz for the invitations! We had a fantastic time. Kakki http://www.preservationhall.com/2.0/tour_schedule.php _________________________________________________________________ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:28:10 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Leslie's post about Paz and Preservation Hall (njc) Fingers are crossed for you my friend!!! I wish you the best and hope you get it! Let's stand together and believe! Sherelle >From: Victor: > >My turn in May!!!!! > > >Whoohoooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Victor, who just emailed a bid to sing both the Canadian and Mexican >national anthems for a conference of roughly 500 state troopers. Keep your >fingers crossed. > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >From: "Sherelle Smith" > > Hi Leslie! > > > > So glad you had a great time with Paz and the band! He was here a couple >of > > weeks ago and I had a great time with all of them as well! You are so >right! > > It is impossible to keep up with the Pazman! He constantly inspires me! > > _________________________________________________________________ Want a degree but can't afford to quit? Top school degrees online - in as fast as 1 year http://forms.nextag.com/goto.jsp?url=/serv/main/buyer/education.jsp?doSearch=n&tm=y&search=education_text_links_88_h288c&s=4079&p=5116 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:06:27 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Cyndi Lauper's performance of "Carey" While listening to other clips graciously submitted by Vincenzo, I ran across this clip of the TNT tribute performance of Cyndi Lauper's "Carey". You can see Joni getting into it and singing along! It was absolutely fabulous! Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5b7yrooLs&mode=related&search= _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft. Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:15:51 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Cyndi Lauper's performance of "Carey" A definite highlight of the entire tribute show. Jerry > While listening to other clips graciously submitted by Vincenzo, I ran > across this clip of the TNT tribute performance of Cyndi Lauper's "Carey". > You can see Joni getting into it and singing along! It was absolutely > fabulous! Enjoy! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5b7yrooLs&mode=related&search= > > _________________________________________________________________ > Dont miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft. > Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:18:40 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Cyndi Lauper's performance of "Carey" I was hoping you would say that Jerry! Without wanting to slight any of the other performances, I truly felt (and still do feel) the same way! Sherelle >From: Jerry Notaro > >A definite highlight of the entire tribute show. > >Jerry > > > > While listening to other clips graciously submitted by Vincenzo, I ran > > across this clip of the TNT tribute performance of Cyndi Lauper's >"Carey". > > You can see Joni getting into it and singing along! It was absolutely > > fabulous! Enjoy! > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5b7yrooLs&mode=related&search= > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Dont miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from >Microsoft. > > Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ > > _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms http://www.NexTag.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:45:04 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: LOTC - DJRD Transitions & Evolutions Hmm, I would be tempted to put Pink Floyd down. Piper At The Gates of Dawn (or even A Saucerful of Secrets if you want to count Syd Barrett out) is quite different than the Wall or The Final Cut. However, they were interrupted by losing their first primary writer/guitarist....then their second primary songwriter. But even with the foursome that made Dark Side, it'd be hard to say that Dark Side is anything like Animals and so forth. Sure, they have a certain style (what it exactly is is beyond me) but every album was always a different animal in itself. - -Monika


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Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:53:23 +0100 (CET) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE : Cyndi Lauper's performance of "Carey" Thanks for sharing this link, Sherrelle. Being one of the last folks in JMDL-dom to catch up on things people already talked about concerning Joni, I was unprepared at the almost improvisational feel of Cyndi Lauper's performance. I thought she looked a bit nervous at the swaying mid-tempo beat of the first part of the song. But when she flattened notes at the second chorus, it was chill-inducing. And who was that hornman who looked like Stan Getz who had a brief duet with Cyndi? I don't know about you all but everytime I see a hornman and a singer occupying the same space, I think of Billie and Lester Young, or Etta Jones and Houston Person. Hair-raising. I don't know if I am more thrilled seeing Lauper do her slithery snake-like undulations or seeing Joni swaying to the quiet syncopation of the beat of the song. Very beautiful. Thanks for giving me a space to relax after an exhausting read of Walter Benjamin. Joseph in sunny and 68-degree-weather Chapel Hill Sherelle Smith a icrit : While listening to other clips graciously submitted by Vincenzo, I ran across this clip of the TNT tribute performance of Cyndi Lauper's "Carey". You can see Joni getting into it and singing along! It was absolutely fabulous! Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5b7yrooLs&mode=related&search= _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft. Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ - --------------------------------- Dicouvrez une nouvelle fagon d'obtenir des riponses ` toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expiriences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Riponses. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:12:48 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Joni's taste in music So I've read Joni give compliments to some jazz artists and so forth. With her taking a dip into jazz, it'd be understandably so. I understand she likes or liked or was influenced by Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, and Judy Collins. And I'd imagine she enjoyed not just the company of but the music of musicians she was friends with or involved with. That being said, I've also read a lot on her saying she doesn't listen to music anymore...or atleast not much. What artists/bands have you seen Joni saying she likes? What artists in the past have you seen her compliment and what artists more recently have you seen her say something nice about? I remember reading an interview (sometime in the late 70's that interview was) with her where she said she enjoyed Fleetwood Mac when they came on. Other than that, what else does she like or has she said she liked? - -Monika


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Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:21:41 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, hgtv, living with ed & a little Harry's House Marianne of Green Gables wrote from her Treegreen Museum: it is sweet . . . and I like the show. It is on HOme and Garden TV. His wife puts up with him. it's a good one, try to watch it. has anyone seen it? LiVING with Ed ***** Home and Garden TV? Marianne dear, Are you lost in House and Gardens While I'm caught up in stopping the Chief of Staff/Commander in Chief/The Decider? (In yet another shameless plug to stop the war escalation, please go to Harry's House -- Harry Reid of the U.S. Senate -- to quickly add your name. Don't keep your gut reactions hid. http://www.giveemhellharry.com/page/petition/Escalation/fdikdp ) Speaking of Harry's House and house and gardens: Is it just me being snowblind, or are the lyrics to "Centerpiece" not included on our lyrics and discography page with "Harry's House"? http://jonimitchell.com/musician/album.cfm?id=9 You know, the part about "a little cottage on the outskirts, where we can REALLY find relief"....I love that part! "Cuz nothing's any good without you....BAYBEEEEEEEEEEEE you're my centerpiece" with the hot piano.....oooh la la!!! But I digress. Quelle coincidence that you mention HGTV. Last night I was channel surfing ("looking for something, what can it be?") and stopped at that channel while I took a phone call. There was a show on there, I think it was about tag sales and recycling. There were kids games and a PeeWee Herman chair, and then, lo and behold, CLOUDS! Yes, it was on a table of albums for sale. No big deal -- not even as "important" as when we saw the Blue album on "Almost Famous", I know -- but I made a sound or something and Judy said: "What's going on?" I replied: "Oh, nothing really, I just saw a Joni album on TV." Since this was a phone call, I don't know if Judy rolled her eyes or not. Probably not. We've been friends for a long time, so she just takes me as I am, and let's these Joni things slide. I'll try to check out your show, Ms. Treegreen, and will remember to bring my cloth bags with me to the store next time so I don't have to kill a tree or choke a fish. Just innocuous chickenscratching because I'm kinda bored and the war is making me crazy..... Love, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:31:05 +0000 From: "Azeem Ali Khan" Subject: Transitions njc If we're talking about people who've made great changes to their style, David Bowie is a great example. 1964 - I Pity the Fool (hanging on the coattails of the British R&B boom 1966 - The Laughing Gnome - Music hall whimsy 1969 - Space Oddity - Futuristic folk-rock 1970 - Width of a Circle - ballsout Heavy Metal 1971 - Changes - Metaphysically inclined easy listening 1972 - Ziggy Stardust - invents glam rock 1975 - Young Americans - "plastic soul" 1976 - Stay - seriously funky 1977 - Warszawa - funereal electronica 1979 - Yassassin - fooling around with Turkish-flavoured reggae Etc etc And at the age of 60 he continues to be a real enthusiast and is in something of a late golden age, his last two albums having been solidly excellent. And he even made a hilarious cameo on Extras! The man is a god. Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:46:46 -0800 From: "Jill Haas" Subject: Jonifest-- Hejira and Dulcimer Moni, (do you mind that I've nicknamed you that?) I name. I name. Cars: Bubbles and Lint. Current favorite guitar: Yummie Bear. I don't even own a dulcimer right now. I'm going to beg to borrow one from a great Seattle company called "Dusty Strings." They make the best lap and hammer dulcimers ever, right here in the Freemont district, known in Seattle as "The Center of the Universe." So, wish me luck--if they let me borrow one, we'll name it together. I'm sure I'll have to promise to hand out their business cards or something, but hey, if you were a dulcimer manufacturer, wouldn't you want one of your dulcimers to appear at Jonifest? I mean, c'mon. It's a marketing no-brainer. Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: Motitan@aol.com To: jillah@msn.com Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Jonifest-- Hejira and Dulcimer I've been playing and singing to the point where I'm hoarse and my guitar fingers are killing me. There's a lot of catching up to do after years of neglecting practice, but I'm having more fun than a puppy ------------------------------ Hey, fun is what makes it all worth it. I always tell people (well a couple people I know who do play an instrument) that if you don't WANT to play it and you have to force yourself to practice/play, then what are you doing? It should be natural. You should have an inclination. I think so anyway. Anyway, I look forward to meeting you at Jonifest! I can't wait to hear you sing/play even though you are hoarse and so forth. It'll be a fantastic time. Plus, dulcimers seem so cool. One day I am going to own not only my guitars, a keyboard, and a harmonica, but a banjo, mandolin, dulcimer, and sitar. I'll play anything with strings on it that you can pick or strum that isn't a bass! Instruments are all so fascinating (though nothing takes my love like a guitar). Oh, I think you ought to name your dulcimer! I name my guitars. I've got my two acoustics named Mr. Soul and Gandalf and my electric named Daltrey, hahaha. It just stregthens the bond, you know? Haha. -Monika - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- Check out free AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:06:48 -0800 (PST) From: Paul In MD Subject: Re: Cyndi Lauper's performance of "Carey" Thanks for the clip, Sherelle. This was definitely the highlight of the TNT Tribute for me. Before this, I only knew Cyndi as the person who sang "Girls Just Want To Have Fun" and painted her hair. Nice gimmick but not particularly interesting to me. Since then, I've discovered she's an incredibly talented performer. When I viewed it on tv, I thought the first verse was a bit shaky. I'm sure she was a bit nervous performing in front of Joan but after viewing it again I can see that she was also holding back. The way she does a slow burn and lets the song build all the way through is just brilliant. What a gal! Thanks again. Paul In MD Sherelle Smith wrote: While listening to other clips graciously submitted by Vincenzo, I ran across this clip of the TNT tribute performance of Cyndi Lauper's "Carey". You can see Joni getting into it and singing along! It was absolutely fabulous! Enjoy! - --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! 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