From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #75 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, February 18 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 075 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- gay and jmdl, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Paradise Paved ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Long Globe & Mail weekend article [Bob Muller ] Re: gay and jmdl, njc [Em ] Re: Rickie Lee Jones NJC [Davmar77@aol.com] Re: Long Globe & Mail weekend article [Victor Johnson ] Joni Mitchell in Person, new G&M article ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: Rickie Lee Jones NJC [kjhsf@aol.com] Re: njc, Crosby and Nash tour cancelled [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Joni Mitchell in Person, new G&M article ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: JoniFest ["anne@sandstrom.com" ] Jonifest ["Jill Haas" ] Re: e: Carlos Castaneda not much jc ["mia _" ] Re: Jonifest [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Jonifest [Motitan@aol.com] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Fw=3A=20=27=38=33=20Concert=20at=20Irvin e=20Meadows=20and=20=38=37=20concert=20at=20pacific=20amphitheater?= ["=] Leonard Peltier - NJC ["Cassy" ] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Joni=20memories=20not=20really=20jc?= ["=?ISO-8859] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20=33=33=20=31=2F=33=20Court=20and=20Spark =20book?= ["=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: gay and jmdl, njc Steve, it seems like every other person on this list is gay and we havent't figured out why. : -) >Subject: Jonifest > >Hello wonderful Joni fans: > >I'm also wondering what it will be like as a gay man at the Jonifest. It >might be a bit cold for one but I'm hoping that other gay people will be >out >and open there since I can't imagine Joni would be anything but welcoming >to >gay folks. I've noticed some gay members on this list. > >Steve in San Francisco _________________________________________________________________ Refi Now: Rates near 39yr lows! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-17727&moid=7581 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:45:26 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Paradise Paved I love hearing stuff like that. Thanks Kenny. Marianne >From: PassScribe@aol.com Hey, gang, I know some folks enjoy hearing about even minor mentions of Joni or references to her, so I'm forwarding the following bit of news. On the front cover of (Long Island's) Newsday, Part 2, is a photo of an old barn here on LI (by someone I know in the Huntington CC, no less) and the lead-in under it: "They may have paved paradise, but the Heckscher Museum Of Art looks past the parking lot to a time now lost", and- of course- it's all about preserving the island's past history, etc. That's it... no big deal... Kenny B _________________________________________________________________ With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few simple tips. http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 06:41:12 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Long Globe & Mail weekend article http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070217.JONI17/TPStory/TPEn tertainment/Music/ An extensive article - another song title ("Shine") and a mention about her current estrangement with Kilauren (maybe that's why she's writing again?) Happy weekend! Bob NP: The Uptown Trio, "Song For Sharon" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 06:41:55 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: gay and jmdl, njc it seems like the natural balance to me. How it would be when we get "back to the garden". I am thankful. :) Em - --- Marianne Rizzo wrote: > Steve, > > it seems like every other person on this list is gay and we havent't > figured > out why. > > > > : -) > > > > > > >Subject: Jonifest > > > >Hello wonderful Joni fans: > > > >I'm also wondering what it will be like as a gay man at the > Jonifest. It > >might be a bit cold for one but I'm hoping that other gay people > will be > >out > >and open there since I can't imagine Joni would be anything but > welcoming > >to > >gay folks. I've noticed some gay members on this list. > > > >Steve in San Francisco > > _________________________________________________________________ > Refi Now: Rates near 39yr lows! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - > Calculate > new payment > http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-17727&moid=7581 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:11:44 EST From: Davmar77@aol.com Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones NJC we saw rickie lee last night in nyc. ( those occasional free tickets as a wfuv member are a nice perk ).she opened solo on piano for 4 songs.3 out of the 4 were older material.then she brought out the band.very different band than i've seen her with in the past but i'm not sure how to describe it.standard instrumentation but a different overall sound.of course she did a lot of her new cd but threw in several older songs too.she seemed in good spirits and her voice was strong and clear.i imagine some of the shows will show up soon. dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:35:00 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Long Globe & Mail weekend article Thanks for the link! Interesting interview... Victor NP: Joe Gransden "Green Dolphin Street" On Feb 17, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070217.JONI17/ > TPStory/TPEn > tertainment/Music/ > > An extensive article - another song title ("Shine") and a > mention about her current estrangement with Kilauren (maybe that's > why she's > writing again?) > > Happy weekend! > > Bob > > NP: The Uptown Trio, "Song For Sharon" > ______________________________________________________________________ > _______ > _______ > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 11:24:31 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Juno Awards (njc) I saw the 2007 Juno Awards are scheduled for April 1st, the same weekend as Jonifest. I also noticed they are being hosted by Nelly Furtado who also happens to be nominated for several awards. It seems odd to me that someone who is a nominee would also be the host. I was scanning through the nominees and I'm not familiar with many of them (besides Diana Krall and some others.) Rush is nominated for music DVD of the year, for R30, which I own and is a fabulous recording. Maybe Joni will be among the nominees next year. Victor NP: Joe Gransden "My Funny Valentine" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:45:44 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Joni Mitchell in Person, new G&M article Joni Mitchell in Person, by ALEXANDRA GILL, From Saturday's Globe and Mail This is a rather unflattering article/interview from the Calgary ballet opening. Gill seems obsessed by the fact that Joni is a smoker and devotes several column inches to the subject. Anyway, there are a few good lines, such as ``She pauses, staring into space, and then returns with a bang. To enjoy my music, you need depth and emotionality. Those two traits are bred out of the white, straight males who control the press. `` Viewers comments to the article on the website are also interesting ! More here, including a glam photo oj Joni taken on opening night in a dressing room. She's looking rahthah regal... http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070216.wxjoni0217/BNStory/Entertainment/home Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:06:37 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Crosby and Nash tour cancelled Oh dear, Dears! I just saw this in today's Hartford Courant: **** Crosby And Nash Not Coming February 17, 2007 An Evening with David Crosby and Graham Nash, scheduled for March 27 at the Bushnell Center for the Performing Arts, has been canceled. Management for Crosby and Nash announced Friday that they are postponing the duo's tour, which was set to begin March 19 in Shawnee, Okla., and end April 14 in Niagara Falls, N.Y. Crosby's "medical issues" are the reason for the cancellation, according to manager Donald Miller. "We deeply regret that the band will not be able to embark on this tour as scheduled," Miller said. **** Moi, aussi! I can put aside my own disappointment (and yours, too, Monika!) and send up prayers that whatever medical issues Croz faces are not too serious. Gee, I just sang Happy Birthday to him (with the more voices the better, and the more out of tune voices the better) on August 15th (the day after his 65th). As I recall, they are supposed to be touring Australia and NZ this month. Have any of you lovely listers over there heard anything? A votre sante, David! Love, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms http://www.NexTag.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:29:46 -0500 From: kjhsf@aol.com Subject: Patty Griffin/chord of inquiry NJC Patty Fans-(kate?) Has anyone else picked up the latest from Patty, "Children Running Through"? It's quite nice, and there is one song in particular, 'someone else's tomorrow' that is framed on the most beautiful and odd piano riff that sounds to me like what Joni means by "chords of inquiry." I'm not a schooled musician, so I can't tell if it's a suspended (suss) chord sequence like Joni talks about in that globe and mail article (thanks for the link, bob), but it takes a few listens before your ear adjusts to the strange resolve of notes. It's really really beautiful. Ken NP/someone else's tomorrow, patty griffin ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:34:19 -0500 From: "Evelyne Dubois" Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell in Person, new G&M article Salut ` tous, I've read the article and didn't appreciate one bit the way Joni was portrayed. God, leave her alone with the smoking and concentrate on where she's coming from (personally AND generation wise, not to say historically), what she's pointing to!! Leave the damn shallow journalistic critic lines and give us the substance we're all desperatly in need of ...... I'm not saying Joni should be portrayed like an above faults godess or anything but come on! Gill wrote: "On surface.... Mitchell's life since then (following Blue and C&S) looks like that of a troubled diva... she would often berate her audiences if they weren't paying close enough attention" . or again "...when Mitchell felt the need to grow as an artist, she turned her back on her fans (sic- so unrelevant) and almost abandoned melody altogether ...". Add to this the importance Gill waited on the logistics preceding the interview: "For this story, I was told she would do two interviews on Thursday or Friday, but the exact date couldn't be confirmed.It would depend on how she felt that day. There was no telling how long she might talk. And, of course, the interview wouldn't take place until after 2 p.m.; that's when the night owl typically wakes up." I don't know, something about this building on "objective facts" while deliberatly avoiding context and lacking insight always bothers me A LOT! And what about the poor discernment Gill shows writing about some of (trusting) Joni's spontaneous thoughts (momentarily forgetting she's being interviewed) regarding her relationship with Kilauren: "She and her daughter are currently estranged. She has lots to say about the problems they've encountered. The stories spill out, easily and ugly (sic- unecessary statement)...Until she suddenly remembers this is an interview....Can you please keep the kid out of it? she asks, trustingly. It will only fan the flame. Let's just say it's a work in progress. Sorry for splashing my miscontent this way on such a beautiful sunny Saturday, I felt a little pissed-off after reading this article. We're only particals of change orbiting around the sun, I know I know, and I'm aware other critics have been much harsher at times, but boy does this type of spirit reminds me of the power of breathtaking ignorance. I feel it misses honesty. Cheers my friends. Evelyne. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael O'Malley" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 11:45 AM Subject: Joni Mitchell in Person, new G&M article > Joni Mitchell in Person, by ALEXANDRA GILL, From Saturday's Globe and Mail > This is a rather unflattering article/interview from the Calgary ballet > opening. Gill seems obsessed by the fact that Joni is a smoker and devotes > several column inches to the subject. Anyway, there are a few good lines, > such as ``She pauses, staring into space, and then returns with a bang. To > enjoy my music, you need depth and emotionality. Those two traits are bred > out of the white, straight males who control the press. `` Viewers > comments to the article on the website are also interesting ! > > More here, including a glam photo oj Joni taken on opening night in a > dressing room. She's looking rahthah regal... > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070216.wxjoni0217/BNSto ry/Entertainment/home > > Michael in Quebec > > _________________________________________________________________ > Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live > Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:38:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones NJC kjhsf@aol.com wrote: > I'm curious to know what other fans of RLJ think. > Ken Again, remarks about Rickie Lee are similar to remarks written about Joni. So many write about their older work and are puzzled about the newer works. I take Rickie the same as I take Joni, great musicians and performers who have had their ups and downs over long and glorious careers, always interesting, always challenging, never following the path to success that the vast majority have. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:46:31 -0500 From: kjhsf@aol.com Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones NJC Yes, I absolutely agree, and I DO applaud Rickie for following her muse. But, if you look at clips of Joni from the mid eighties (And there are some interesting clips of her performing a very jazzy Hejira with Herbie Hancock and Bobby Mcferrin on youtube right now), there seems to be a continuity of presence to Joni. With Rickie, I'm not sure what is going on. I have heard that she was a junkie for some time, and maybe a lot of her musicality was fueled by that at that time. Those clips of her from back then (mid-eighties) seem like an entirely different person. I know a lot of people would disagree, but I think her work on The Magazine was some of her most brilliant, but that is when she seemed to nose-dive into obscurity. Much like Joni at the time of Hissing of Summer Lawns. (BTW-The remaster of Hissing by Dave is MAGNIFICENT--it got me to dancing round my apartment!) KEN - -----Original Message----- From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu To: kjhsf@aol.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 7:38 AM Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones NJC kjhsf@aol.com wrote: > I'm curious to know what other fans of RLJ think. > Ken Again, remarks about Rickie Lee are similar to remarks written about Joni. So many write about their older work and are puzzled about the newer works. I take Rickie the same as I take Joni, great musicians and performers who have had their ups and downs over long and glorious careers, always interesting, always challenging, never following the path to success that the vast majority have. Jerry ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:50:14 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: njc, Crosby and Nash tour cancelled Oh, that is sad news but I do hope Crosby gets better. I know how much he loves playing music so this probably hurts him more than anyone else really. But I gotta say, Crosby's a survivor. He always seems to have medical problems but he always recovers! He's a trooper you know? So I don't feel too worried but I do wish him the best. - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:54:05 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell in Person, new G&M article I would have hoped the interviewer would have walked a way thinking...."Wow...what beautiful fresh air she brings round the table....despite all that smoke." "AND....even though she does smoke...it somehow balances her." "Who cares?!" "Live and let live!" "And just to get the interview with one of the greatest singer songwriter's of all time...how lucky am I?" "I must remember to get down on my knees tonight....thank you...thank you..." But desperately trying to be grown-up and oh so sophisticated..chocked-full of the world's idiocy ...we know about all things haute...but just below the surface ...uptight.stupid..scared. And Joni..... my hat off to you for sitting there and taking that crap ....you are a better woman than I. Bree >>Salut ` tous, > >I've read the article and didn't appreciate one bit the way Joni was >portrayed. God, leave her alone with the smoking and concentrate on where >she's coming from (personally AND generation wise, not to say >historically), >what she's pointing to!! Leave the damn shallow journalistic critic lines >and give us the substance we're all desperatly in need of ...... > >I'm not saying Joni should be portrayed like an above faults godess or >anything but come on! > >Gill wrote: >"On surface.... Mitchell's life since then (following Blue and C&S) looks >like that of a troubled diva... she would often berate her audiences if >they >weren't paying close enough attention" . > >or again >"...when Mitchell felt the need to grow as an artist, she turned her back >on >her fans (sic- so unrelevant) and almost abandoned melody altogether ...". > >Add to this the importance Gill waited on the logistics preceding the >interview: >"For this story, I was told she would do two interviews on Thursday or >Friday, but the exact date couldn't be confirmed.It would depend on how she >felt that day. There was no telling how long she might talk. And, of >course, >the interview wouldn't take place until after 2 p.m.; that's when the night >owl typically wakes up." > >I don't know, something about this building on "objective facts" while >deliberatly avoiding context and lacking insight always bothers me A LOT! > >And what about the poor discernment Gill shows writing about some of >(trusting) Joni's spontaneous thoughts (momentarily forgetting she's being >interviewed) regarding her relationship with Kilauren: "She and her >daughter >are currently estranged. She has lots to say about the problems they've >encountered. The stories spill out, easily and ugly (sic- unecessary >statement)...Until she suddenly remembers this is an interview....Can you >please keep the kid out of it? she asks, trustingly. It will only fan the >flame. Let's just say it's a work in progress. > >Sorry for splashing my miscontent this way on such a beautiful sunny >Saturday, I felt a little pissed-off after reading this article. We're only >particals of change orbiting around the sun, I know I know, and I'm aware >other critics have been much harsher at times, but boy does this type of >spirit reminds me of the power of breathtaking ignorance. I feel it misses >honesty. > >Cheers my friends. Evelyne. > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Michael O'Malley" >To: >Cc: >Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 11:45 AM >Subject: Joni Mitchell in Person, new G&M article > > > > Joni Mitchell in Person, by ALEXANDRA GILL, From Saturday's Globe and >Mail > > This is a rather unflattering article/interview from the Calgary ballet > > opening. Gill seems obsessed by the fact that Joni is a smoker and >devotes > > several column inches to the subject. Anyway, there are a few good >lines, > > such as ``She pauses, staring into space, and then returns with a bang. >To > > enjoy my music, you need depth and emotionality. Those two traits are >bred > > out of the white, straight males who control the press. `` Viewers > > comments to the article on the website are also interesting ! > > > > More here, including a glam photo oj Joni taken on opening night in a > > dressing room. She's looking rahthah regal... > > > > >http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070216.wxjoni0217/BNSto >ry/Entertainment/home > > > > Michael in Quebec > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows >Live > > Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca _________________________________________________________________ Find what you need at prices youll love. Compare products and save at MSN. Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:05:31 -0800 From: "Jill Haas" Subject: Fw: '83 Concert at Irvine Meadows Hi Laurent, As I recall, the concert was an "only Joni" one--she was the headliner. The women behind me were, I'm sure, "fans," but they wanted Joni to keep her wings tucked in. Personally, I've always loved to see her fly. If those fans had their way, we wouldn't have the great body of material she's produced. Her work has a life of its own, IMHO. There were times that it took a bit of patience before I could "get it" when new (and different) material came out, but it always worked its way into my world, and my life is much richer for it. Pardonez mois for the gushing admiration--sometimes I just can't help myself. Jill Laurent wrote: A copy of the Forest Hill TREE is on its way to Michael Paz. I was at Irvine too. Was it the one where Joni opened for Willie Nelson? Lots of Willie fans talking indeed. Joni as usual didn't try pleasing the crowd. That is part of why we love her, isn't it? Laurent Jill wrote: Finally, I did get to see Joni in '83 at Irvine Meadows Amphitheater (CA) and sat second row center. I think I cried through the entire concert, and then at the end threatened to punch out the two women sitting behind me who where criticizing her for playing new material. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:13:31 +0000 (UTC) From: "anne@sandstrom.com" Subject: Re: JoniFest Hi Steve, I don't want to oversell this, but when I read "I'm hoping the Jonifest might spark the creative feelings I used to have and am looking forward to relaxing and enjoying the excitement and music," I had to smile. Why? Because that's a little like hoping that you won't be too hungry after Thanksgiving dinner. :-) My only advice is to sleep before and plan to sleep after, but don't expect to sleep much DURING JoniFest. You just won't want to. OK, I'll stop now and let the magic unfold for you during 'Fest. lots of love, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:59:36 -0800 From: "Jill Haas" Subject: Jonifest JMDLers and especially ChuckE: I love y'all, man. Thanks to your generous contributions, I now have a full scholarship that will cover my stay at Jonifest. I'm getting there the old-fashioned way--driving from Seattle so I can bring some goodies--instruments and such. And yet, your kindness continues. ChuckE sent me a check for my first tank of gas at "Barangrill." Bless you, ChuckE. I have been bragging about your generosity to everyone I know. Your gift qualifies as one of the best random acts of kindness I've ever received. In return for all of this love, I'll do my best to fulfill my promise to Paz to take over as "the Human Jukebox" and do whatever I can to make this event fun for all of us. Anybody want to work on a song? I hear that I sing a mean harmony, I play guitar rather sadly, but I do know just about every tuning Joni ever came up with (or can figure it out). I may even bring a dulcimer. Love, Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:01:14 -0600 From: "mia _" Subject: Re: e: Carlos Castaneda not much jc Norma Jean wrote: <> Oh, I totally agree. I love Native American culture, I've loved it since I was a young child. And I totallly get the whole "link with nature" lifestyle - such a beautiful, pure, natural way to live one's life. And I don't even have a problem with the ritualistic hallucinogenic drugs - I have the utmost respect for native cultures. Sometimes I wonder if I have a bit of Native American blood in me. Joni has some, and my grandmother's face looks almost identical to Joni's. Sure, this is much wishful (and probably delusional) thinking on my part; however, my grandmother's background has always been kept a secret from the family, not sure why - it is such a mystery. Regarding Castaneda, I think I just don't like the way his book is written - maybe the writing style - I dunno - it just seems like so many details that would be so pertinent and interesting have been left out. There are gaps or something in the writing, and I get the feeling some of his experiences are made up, but I can't really explain why I feel that. My problem. <> I take it you've been there? You are so fortunate! I've always wanted to explore the Andes. I'd love to hear more about your personal experiences there. My cousin, who married a Peruvian, recently had a baby. The family now refers to the baby as an "Inca Stinka" (tee hee). Mia _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft. Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:58:41 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Jonifest mean harmony, I play guitar rather sadly, but I do know just about every tuning Joni ever came up with (or can figure it out). I may even bring a dulcimer - ---------------------------- If you bring a dulcimer, will you teach me a bit on how to play it???????? I've been looking around for one.... - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:14:47 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Jonifest And....welcome aboard! I think EVERYONE should go to Jonifest. What could be better? I look forward to meeting you and hearing you play/sing! - -monika ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:54:12 -0800 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Fw=3A=20=27=38=33=20Concert=20at=20Irvin e=20Meadows=20and=20=38=37=20concert=20at=20pacific=20amphitheater?= hi all First of all i want to apologize for all the typos when i post. i never learned to type and i usually write late at night and can't see or don't care about what i post. so for those of you who have complain sloppy writing. sorry laurent wrote: - -"Was it the one where Joni opened for Willie Nelson? - -Lots of Willie fans talking indeed. Joni as usual didn't try pleasing the - -crowd. That is part of why we love her, isn't it?" ever the intrepid explorer, i'd say. that's a big part of my admiration for the lady. I was at that concert too - it was COWBOYS FOR INDIANS, joni always riding that range, like the games of her childhood. it was a benefit for justice for Leonard Peltier, an American Indian Movement activist, who many believe was framed by the FBI. Kris Kristofferson, willie, joni and many others played. It was at the Pacific Amphitheater, costa mesa in 1987. Joni's talked about it having been a stuck in traffic kinda day. I thought she and willie sang cool water that night. the audience was mostly not there to see her. but i remember wayne playing with her and my floating out after the show. and I was lucky enough to go to all three shows in the la area on her 83 tour. That was a long tour, beginning with the segment in japan and ending i think late in July. I thought joni played the same songs each night but in a different order. the night at irvine meadows was different. Joni seemed to be straining, fighting her way through the songs to. Right after " For Free" joni left the stage leaning on klein, only about 2/3 of the way though the show. there was no "heard it through the grapevine encore that night! remember the crowd booing--does this sound familiar jill? or anyone? somebody said the universal or irvine show was pretty choeorgraphed. imho that was due to klein. the band was actually wearing uniforms, black leather pants and white shirts. Then, she introduced klein as her husband. a big gasp from the crowd! how could this be so? i had heard she'd gotten married but DID NOT BELIEVE IT . crown and anchor joni? i never thought marriage was ever something she'd consider doing again. Do these recollections ring any bells? all so long ago before i realized i should write all things about joni down immediately. - ---------- Original Message ------------- Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:05:31 -0800 From: "Jill Haas" To: Subject: Fw: '83 Concert at Irvine Meadows >Hi Laurent, >As I recall, the concert was an "only Joni" one--she was the headliner. The >women behind me were, I'm sure, "fans," but they >wanted Joni to keep her wings tucked in. Personally, I've always loved to >see her fly. If those fans had their way, we wouldn't have the great body of >material she's produced. Her work has a life of its own, IMHO. > >There were times that it took a bit of patience before I could "get it" >when new (and different) material came out, but it always worked its way >into my world, and my life is much richer for it. > >Pardonez mois for the gushing admiration--sometimes I just can't help >myself. > >Jill > >Jill also wrote: > >Finally, I did get to see Joni in '83 at Irvine Meadows Amphitheater (CA) >and sat second row center. I think I cried through the entire concert, and >then at the end threatened to punch out the two women sitting behind me who >where criticizing her for playing new material. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:09:40 -0500 From: "Cassy" Subject: Leonard Peltier - NJC From: "LESLI A WATTS" <<< it was a benefit for justice for Leonard Peltier, an American Indian Movement activist, who many believe was framed by the FBI. >>> Robbie Robertson wrote a piece where Leonard Peltier narrates his story to music. It's on a 1998 CD called "Contact from the Underworld of Redboy" and the piece is "Sacrifice". To hear Peltier tell his own story is very moving and if anyone is interested in that kind of history I recommend listening to this tune. Warmly, Cassy NP: Borne - The Guide (this week's i-Tunes free download) reminds me a little of Snow Patrol ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:43:33 -0800 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Joni=20memories=20not=20really=20jc?= what a great remininse. it's funny so many can totally visualize and remember the first time they heard joni. for me it was when i was i my bedroom supposedly doing marine biology homework, instead dancing around, listening to knx, a popular fm station in la, and i heard someone singing my beloved "clouds" and i thought badly mauling it. i waited to hear who had dared ruin that song- they announced joni mitchell. ( i'd always loved that songits words and the tune and had sung along from the bottom of my heart with judy collins. so so pret-ty! a little later i found out joni had written it and intrigued i began to explore the world with joni a guide. we all come and go unknown. god after my first soul shattering breakup how that resonated in my soul. - ---------- Original Message ------------- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:38:35 -0800 From: "Jenny Goodspeed" To: jmdl Subject: Joni moments this past week or so >Joni moment # 1: There was a short discussion here about the new Court and >Spark book and the author said he first heard Joni on AM Radio - the song >'Help Me'. Well that's how I first heard Joni - Help Me on AM radio - and >it was one of those pivotal little moments in life that send you on a >slightly different path than you would have been on without it. So that >made me smile. > >That day turned out to be a long one and I felt under the weather and was >exhausted, but I had to go to the pharmacy after work and I was dreading it >b/c I was so beat. So I dragged my butt into the CVS and stood there for a >moment trying to muster up some energy when "Help Me" came on over the loud >speaker and everything got much better after that. > >Joni moment #2: That weekend I whisked my better half up to Vermont for an >impromptu birthday celebration. We had a lovely time and I didn't want it >to end, so I was determined to take the back roads home. All of them. No >highways allowed. I put Hejira on and it was the perfect catalyst for an >hour or so of bliss. Winding roads I'd never been on before, a fresh cover >of snow, woods and farms, and new england main streets and the sun on it's >way to setting. > >For once I didn't sing along, I just listened. And the great thing about >Hejira is, even if you've listened to it for more than half your life, you >*still* hear a lyric you never heard before, or you understand a song in a >new way. Anyway, it was magical, and it's tough for me to capture in words >(need Mags or Lucy or someone like that) but i had to share that with people >that might actually understand the experience. > >Hejira and winter go hand and hand. Hm, if Hejira is winter, and HOSL is >summer, what is spring and what is autumn? > >Jenny ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 20:15:59 -0800 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20=33=33=20=31=2F=33=20Court=20and=20Spark =20book?= obviously the writer loved joni's work and this little book will turn some people on to her talent and . that is cool and magical. BUT hey i wasn't enamoured either. with me it's a gut reaction thing. emotion. Joni's peak period? please. his thoughts just kept on coming - where was the space? breathy. Just like this train, not shaking into town but speeding away with you along. that's a hard style to master. some can and others need to edit. funny comment from the typo queen eh? seemed like a thesis or a master's i thought. nice tight focus analysis line by line. y'all read it and see where it leads you. i just wish joni would get around to writing her own book. - ---------- Original Message ------------- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:34:59 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" To: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Re: 33 1/3 Court and Spark book >From: "Richard Flynn" > >>I don't get it, Randy. Am I the only person who thought this book was >> dreadful? >> > >SO FAR - but most people haven't read it yet. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #75 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------