From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #68 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, February 14 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 068 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Shadows and Light ["Laurent Olszer" ] RE: Shadows and Light NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Saddest songs NJC [hell@ihug.co.nz] Re: Saddest songs [Michael Flaherty ] Re: Rickie Lee Jones on Letterman tonight - NJC ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Rickie Lee Jones on Letterman tonight - NJC [Jerry Notaro ] HAPPY SONGS NJC [kjhsf@aol.com] Re: Saddest songs NJC [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Saddest songs NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: HAPPY SONGS NJC [waytoblue@comcast.net] Re: Rickie Lee Jones on Letterman tonight (NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Rickie Lee Jones on Letterman tonight (NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Rickie Lee Jones on Letterman tonight (NJC) ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: HAPPY SONGS NJC [Deb Messling ] HAPPY SONGS NJC ["Jenny Goodspeed" ] Re: HAPPY SONGS NJC ["Jenny Goodspeed" ] Re: Joni moments this past week or so ["Jenny Goodspeed" ] Re: Shadows and Light [Michael Flaherty ] If I Could Only Remember My Name ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Another JoniFest dream [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: HAPPY SONGS NJC [Gary Z ] Re: HAPPY SONGS NJC [Victor Johnson ] Re: HAPPY SONGS NJC [kjhsf@aol.com] Re: Joni to work with.......? ["Evelyne Dubois" ] RE: 33 1/3 Court and Spark book ["Richard Flynn" ] RE: Joni to work with.......? ["Les Irvin" ] Saddest songs ["Kate Bennett" ] Happy songs njc [Victor Johnson ] Re: Joni to work with.......? ["Evelyne Dubois" ] The 10 saddest songs I've ever heard njc ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:23:45 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Shadows and Light Incidentally, this is one of the few soundboards from that tour, currently on dimeadozen Laurent JONI MITCHELL FOREST HILLS TENNIS STADIUM FOREST HILLS,NY AUGUST 25,1979 Joni Mitchell Electric Guitar, Piano Don Alias Drums, Percussion Michael Brecker Sax Lyle Mays Keyboards Pat Metheny Lead Guitar Jaco Pastorius Bass The Persuasions Vocals ** CD1 1-BIG YELLOW TAXI 2-JUST LIKE THIS TRAIN 3-IN FRANCE THEY KISS ON MAIN STREET 4-COYOTE 5-EDITH AND THE KINGPIN 6-FREE MAN IN PARIS 7-GOODBYE PORKPIE HAT 8-THE DRY CLEANER FROM DES MOINES 9-AMELIA > 10-PAT'S SOLO ( FADES OUT ) CD2 1-HEJIRA 2-DREAMLAND 3-BLACK CROW 4-FURRY SINGS THE BLUES 5-TALK 6-GOD MUST BE A BOOGIE MAN 7-RAISED ON ROBBERY 8-BAND INTROS 9-SHADOWS AND LIGHT ** 10-THE LAST TIME I SAW RICHARD 11-WHY DO FOOLS FALL IN LOVE ** 12-WOODSTOCK ( FADES OUT ) SB UNKNOWN LINEAGE > REEL > M-AUDIO TRANSIT > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:04:25 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: Shadows and Light NJC LOL, this gave me a pretty good smile. And yes, we're a franchise. "Don't forget Rent-A-Bob for your next Jonifest". Bob NP: Bruce, "State Trooper" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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So it's one more round for experience And I'm on the road again And it's going to take some time this time Graham Nash - Cold Rain Christine McVie (Fleetwood Mac) - Songbird Dave Dobbyn - Guilty (Thru Neglect) Christine McVie (Fleetwood Mac) - Wish You Were Here Each moment is a memory Time is so unkind Every hour, filled with an emptiness I cant hide Theres distance between us And youre on my mind As I lay here in the darkness I can find no peace inside I wish you were here holding me tight If I had you near it would make it alright I wish you were here cause I feel like a child tonight Indigo Girls - Hope Alone It's funny what you know And still go on pretending With no good evidence You'll ever see that happy ending You, looking for your distance And sensing my resistance You had to do your will I had to learn the hard way We were just an empty dream too big For hope alone to fill Janis Ian - Tea & Sympathy Johnny Cash - Hurt Missy Higgins - Nightminds Stryngs - Frank's Song Sharon O'Neill - Maybe Janis Joplin - Little Girl Blue God knows there are a lot more, but I have to stop. Now how about a "Happiest songs" thread to cheer us all up again! Hell - stuck in a boring office in Auckland NZ, instead of spending this gorgeous summer's day at home on the farm! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:09:48 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Saddest songs From: L. Bruce Vaughn >>>Glad to see someone mention Emmylou. One could compile a great sad songs list just from her back catalogue but a personal favorite is A River For Him from her much overlooked album Bluebird. This one she wrote herself and it will really make you feel. No Regrets is also on Bluebird, if anyone is keeping score. That's my favorite Emmylou album (not that I've heard anywhere near all of them). Michael Flaherty _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:35:45 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones on Letterman tonight - NJC I couldn't help but notice that she snatched part of 'Til Tuesday's "Voices Carry" for "Falling Down"- seemed really similar, anyway. I think Magazine was the last RLJ album I was enthusiastic about. The Best Day album seemed like wallpaper to me- although I only spun it (spinned it? span it?) once or twice. RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:39:53 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones on Letterman tonight - NJC - --- Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > Lyrically, it's awfully difficult to make out a lot > of what she saying - RLJ's slurred speech and lack of enunciation do make it difficult to hear what she's saying at the best of times. That's one thing I don't care for at all. > I'm filing this one alongside Ghostyhead and when I > want to hear RLJ it'll > be her other releases. I appreciate what she was > going for, it's not > something I want to hear very often. > So... I do like Ghostyhead. Does that mean I'll like this one? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:38:02 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Saddest songs -- C'mon get happy NJC Hell suggests: << Now how about a "Happiest songs" thread to cheer us all up again! >> "Happy" by the Rolling Stones "Night in the City" by Joni "You Do Something to Me" Marlene Dietrich "Something Good" by Herman's Hermits "Good Vibrations" by the Beach Boys "She Loves You" The Beatles "My Girl" by The Temps "Zip-id-dee-doo-dah" by ? "It's Raining Men" by the Weathergirls "Tutti-Frutti" by Little Richard - --Smurf . _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:51:13 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones on Letterman tonight - NJC And yet some felt The Evening of the Best Day was one of her best, and on many Top Ten lists. Again, such are people's reaction to her and her work. It is actually quite similar to many reactions to Joni and her work. Jerry > I couldn't help but notice that she snatched part of > 'Til Tuesday's "Voices Carry" for "Falling Down"- > seemed really similar, anyway. > I think Magazine was the last RLJ album I was > enthusiastic about. > The Best Day album seemed like wallpaper to me- > although I only spun it (spinned it? span it?) once > or twice. > RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:52:53 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones on Letterman tonight - NJC Your mileage may vary - offer void where prohibited by law. And I like Ghostyhead too - my point is that when I'm in the mood for some Rickie, it's not what I pull from the shelf. And I certainly won't play it as much as I did "Evening OF My Best Day" which got LOTS of eartime with me. Bob NP: Bruce, "My Father's House" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Let's see....how about Joni Mitchell - Underneath the Streetlight Yes I do I love you / I really Do Sons of Champlin - 1982A Can you feel it comin' / It's gonna set you back on your heels It's gonna sound like drummin' / And you'll believe in how good it feels ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:28:08 -0500 From: kjhsf@aol.com Subject: HAPPY SONGS NJC This one is harder! I could come up with another ten sad tunes very easily! As for happy-feel good stuff: The Big Sky, Kate Bush Reeling in the Years, Steely Dan Private Revolution, World Party Help Me, Joni California, Wendy Maharry When My Ship Comes In, Jill Sobule ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:41:49 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Saddest songs NJC Stephen says in his cranky drawl, 'One thing the Blues ain't..is funny' - ----------------- Ooh, that's from 4 Way Street. Great album and great song. Love the acoustic. The first half of 4 Way Street is half the reason I switched to playing acoustic and playing by myself. So inspiring really. I used to play electric guitar in bands but I got tired of that scene--drama and all. Black Queen and 49 Bye Byes/America's Children are my favorites by Stephen on that album. - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:01:35 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Saddest songs NJC This is an A+ excellent song, but I don't think of it as sad. I find it to be an uplifting song about the deep power of love & promises. But I suppose I can see why it would make the list of "sad" songs, and you weren't the only one to list it. But isn't crying & laughing the same release? Anyway... 1. Elvin Bishop - "Sure Feels Good Feelin' Good Again" "Never seen such a beautiful day Looks like everything's coming my way Feel like a bird just leavin' his cage Looks like my luck's gettin' ready to change" 2. Santana - "Everything's Coming Our Way" No particular lyrical part, just the jubilant celebratory feel of the entire song. Always good for a pick-me-up. 3. New Radicals - "You Get What You Give" (Joni loves it too!) And of course a bazillion more. Bob NP: Joni, "Amelia" (Hejira version) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Victor NP: Rush - Nobody's Hero (live) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:08:50 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones on Letterman tonight (NJC) I think I have to respond to my own post because I see that there were RLJ fans that did not like the performance at all. I think I liked her performance because she was raw and just being herself. I like originality and creativity and I love when artists break the mold. That's what I took from her performance. I don't have a lot of performances of hers to fall back on and I really go back to her single "Chuck E.'s In Love" and hearing her do that live. I saw a Marianne Faithful live performance a few years ago and I really love her edgy, scratchy vocals. I feel she is very creative and I put RLJ into the same category. I think I have grown to love the imperfect voice especially when there is so much creativity there. My two cents. Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into something more. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gratitude&FORM=WLMTAG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:12:40 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Saddest songs On the subject of sad songs, here's one of my top (bottom?) 10 - all the more poignant when you know Graham wrote it the day he and Joni split up... Simple Man - Graham Nash - -------------------------------- I love this song. It really kills me to listen to it. I always have to get ready "mentally" before I put it on. It's so simple and so sad and yet says more than you would think. - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:12:47 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: HAPPY SONGS NJC Yes I agree, this is much harder. The Beatles usually make me pretty happy so off the top of my head: - -I've Just Seen A Face: The Beatles (one of my favorite Beatles songs of all time!) - -What Is Life: George Harrison - -Walk On: Neil Young - -Twist & Shout: The Beatles version - -Shout: any version - -Maybe Baby: Buddy Holly - -Chelsea Morning: Joni - -C'mon Everybody: any version really - -Really, a lot of that early rock-n-roll, just makes me want to get up and dance! Ok that's all for now. That was very difficult! What does that say about us all if this is harder than the sad songs list? Hahaha. - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:12:57 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Another JoniFest dream Anyone into figuring out what dreams mean? See you all in six and a half weeks at the REAL JoniFest, - ------------------------ I love dreams and that sort of thing but I'm not too good at figuring them out. They fascinate me. I've even got a dreams book but its very vague and usually doesn't help much anyway. Perhaps your dream means you have an obsession with your Mother. Freud would say so anyhow, haha! See you at Jonifest! - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:14:00 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Joni to work with.......? Ok, well Joni hasn't "collaborated" with too many people (Mingus and so forth). She's worked with people sure, bounced ideas off them, but has only collaborated with a few people. Songwriters are independent creatures I think. Anyway, this being said, and since she's writing again, is there anyone you would like to see her work/collaborate with today? Not that she needs to but I'm just throwing it out there. Why? - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:18:26 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Shadows and Light NJC Ha! Ha! Ha! That was so funny Bob! ! I love it! Perfect! Love, Sherelle >From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > >the picture, no Jonifest without one I guess!> > >LOL, this gave me a pretty good smile. And yes, we're a franchise. >"Don't forget Rent-A-Bob for your next Jonifest". > >Bob > >NP: Bruce, "State Trooper" > _________________________________________________________________ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:25:39 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones on Letterman tonight (NJC) Hi Jerry, I'll look deeper into this CD. I have to say in embarrasment that I am deeply ashamed of any previous religiousity shown by me. As the years have progressed, I have come to the conclusion that there is so much I do not know or understand on the subject. Instead, it is better to just love and care about people and leave the judgements to those who feel the need. I certainly don't...(smile) Sherelle >From: "Gerald A. Notaro" > >Sherelle, > >And I just want to add that the lyrics are a reflection of Jesus' words >and Rickie has much to say on her beliefs on this cd. Thought you would >like to know because I know you are deeply religious. > >Jerry > >Sherelle Smith wrote: > > I think I have to respond to my own post because I see that there were >RLJ > > fans that did not like the performance at all. I think I liked her > > performance because she was raw and just being herself. I like >originality > > and creativity and I love when artists break the mold. That's what I >took > > from her performance. I don't have a lot of performances of hers to fall > > back on and I really go back to her single "Chuck E.'s In Love" and > > hearing > > her do that live. I saw a Marianne Faithful live performance a few years > > ago > > and I really love her edgy, scratchy vocals. I feel she is very creative > > and > > I put RLJ into the same category. I think I have grown to love the > > imperfect > > voice especially when there is so much creativity there. My two cents. > > > > Sherelle > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into > > something more. > > >http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gratitude&FORM=WLMTAG > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:28:39 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Joni incorporates rap Since Joni has said negative things about rap in the past, it's hard to imagine that she's using it in the new collection. I hope she brought in a rapper. That's how Mike Timmins added rap to "I Don't Want To Be A Soldier" and it worked. On the other hand, there's a song on contemporary country where the 'singer' tries to rap and he sounds exactly like a bad radio commercial. Joni knows how to expand her palette without ruining the painting. I hope she's not rusty but then, she's had a fantastic album after a hiatus before. Can you believe it's been 9 years since "Taming The Tiger" (1998)? Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:29:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones on Letterman tonight (NJC) Why should you be ashamed? We have many on the list who are religious. And I've never at all felt you to be judgmental of anyone here. Though I would not consider myself to be traditionally religious, though I was raised and educated as a strict Catholic, I admire the man Jesus and his teachings. Rickie Lee's thoughts as expressed on the accompanying DVD are very thoughtful and provocative. Jerry Sherelle Smith wrote: > Hi Jerry, > > I'll look deeper into this CD. I have to say in embarrasment that I am > deeply ashamed of any previous religiousity shown by me. As the years have > progressed, I have come to the conclusion that there is so much I do not > know or understand on the subject. Instead, it is better to just love and > care about people and leave the judgements to those who feel the need. I > certainly don't...(smile) > > Sherelle > > >>From: "Gerald A. Notaro" >> >>Sherelle, >> >>And I just want to add that the lyrics are a reflection of Jesus' words >>and Rickie has much to say on her beliefs on this cd. Thought you would >>like to know because I know you are deeply religious. >> >>Jerry >> >>Sherelle Smith wrote: >> > I think I have to respond to my own post because I see that there were >>RLJ >> > fans that did not like the performance at all. I think I liked her >> > performance because she was raw and just being herself. I like >>originality >> > and creativity and I love when artists break the mold. That's what I >>took >> > from her performance. I don't have a lot of performances of hers to >> fall >> > back on and I really go back to her single "Chuck E.'s In Love" and >> > hearing >> > her do that live. I saw a Marianne Faithful live performance a few >> years >> > ago >> > and I really love her edgy, scratchy vocals. I feel she is very >> creative >> > and >> > I put RLJ into the same category. I think I have grown to love the >> > imperfect >> > voice especially when there is so much creativity there. My two cents. >> > >> > Sherelle >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into >> > something more. >> > >>http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gratitude&FORM=WLMTAG >> > >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your > Live.com page. > http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:19:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones on Letterman tonight (NJC) Sherelle, And I just want to add that the lyrics are a reflection of Jesus' words and Rickie has much to say on her beliefs on this cd. Thought you would like to know because I know you are deeply religious. Jerry Sherelle Smith wrote: > I think I have to respond to my own post because I see that there were RLJ > fans that did not like the performance at all. I think I liked her > performance because she was raw and just being herself. I like originality > and creativity and I love when artists break the mold. That's what I took > from her performance. I don't have a lot of performances of hers to fall > back on and I really go back to her single "Chuck E.'s In Love" and > hearing > her do that live. I saw a Marianne Faithful live performance a few years > ago > and I really love her edgy, scratchy vocals. I feel she is very creative > and > I put RLJ into the same category. I think I have grown to love the > imperfect > voice especially when there is so much creativity there. My two cents. > > Sherelle > > _________________________________________________________________ > Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into > something more. > http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gratitude&FORM=WLMTAG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:38:42 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones on Letterman tonight (NJC) Oh! Okay! (smile) I think a bad taste has been left in the world's mouth because of many who have turned people off to religion of any kind and I feel bad about that because I truly have a spiritual conviction in my heart, that's all. I think we all fall short at times seen or unseen but we pick ourselves up again and keep going. I would love to hear her thoughts on this CD. Thanks again for letting me know about it! Now I am even more interested! Love, Sherelle >From: "Gerald A. Notaro" > >Why should you be ashamed? We have many on the list who are religious. And >I've never at all felt you to be judgmental of anyone here. Though I would >not consider myself to be traditionally religious, though I was raised and >educated as a strict Catholic, I admire the man Jesus and his teachings. >Rickie Lee's thoughts as expressed on the accompanying DVD are very >thoughtful and provocative. > >Jerry > >Sherelle Smith wrote: > > Hi Jerry, > > > > I'll look deeper into this CD. I have to say in embarrasment that I am > > deeply ashamed of any previous religiousity shown by me. As the years >have > > progressed, I have come to the conclusion that there is so much I do not > > know or understand on the subject. Instead, it is better to just love >and > > care about people and leave the judgements to those who feel the need. I > > certainly don't...(smile) > > > > Sherelle > > > > _________________________________________________________________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo  buy and sell with people you know http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:52:03 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Joni moments this past week or so Spring is CLOUDS. Autumn is MINGUS (slow fade to black). That thread about depressing songs doesn't tempt me at all. I guess I'm in a good place now... or maybe just superstitious. Jim L. Jenny Goodspeed asked, >Hejira and winter go hand and hand. Hm, if Hejira is winter, and HOSL is summer, what is spring and what is autumn?> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:57:36 -0500 From: kjhsf@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni to work with.......? Well Monika, it's a good question, but if I had my choice, I'd prefer Joni with just her guitar (and not that horrible sounding VG8) or, even better, the piano. I think she could do some interesting collaboration with Bjork, perhaps. It would also be interesting for her to do something with a modern classical composer, maybe Arvo Paart. I have not really taken to the symphonic stuff on Travelogue, but would have liked to have heard her works fleshed out with an orchestra without that plodding, bombastic orchestration. Ken - -----Original Message----- From: Motitan@aol.com To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 5:14 PM Subject: Joni to work with.......? Ok, well Joni hasn't "collaborated" with too many people (Mingus and so forth). She's worked with people sure, bounced ideas off them, but has only collaborated with a few people. Songwriters are independent creatures I think. Anyway, this being said, and since she's writing again, is there anyone you would like to see her work/collaborate with today? Not that she needs to but I'm just throwing it out there. Why? - -Monika ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:25:59 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: Saddest songs -- C'mon get happy NJC > Hell suggests: > > > << Now how about a "Happiest songs" thread to cheer us all > up again! >> he loves me - second chapter of acts the swimming song - eddie reader sweet sir galahad - joan baez she just wants to dance - keb mo pamela brown - leo kottke red staggerwing - emmylou harris & mark knopfler flying lesson - michelle shocked if not here - michelle shocked two places at a table - rory block old friends - rory block social aid & pleasure club - the subdudes stoot toot - syd kitchen & madala kunene yeah, yeah - tuck & patti what is catty? - u-roy ron np - flying lesson - michelle shocked ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:43:07 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: HAPPY SONGS NJC Happy: Time and Love, Laura Nyro One Misty Moisty Morning, Steeleye Span Hal An Tow, The Oyster Band And two more sad ones: February, Dar Williams Ain't Life a Brook, Ferron - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:46:08 -0500 From: "Jenny Goodspeed" Subject: HAPPY SONGS NJC funny i think coming up with happier songs is easier. maybe because music is my drug of choice and i'm always looking for songs to combat my struggling mood. too many to list, but here's a happy song i listened to on the way home from work. Going to the Country, Bruce Cockburn Look out the window, what do I see? cows hangin' out under spreading trees. ZOOM! they're gone behind the sign white letters pointing to the long white line and I'm going to the country o, la la la la la I'm going to the country sunshine smile on me I can smell the grass growing in the field wind in my hair tells me how it feels farm house, silver roof flashing by tractor-trailer truck says goodbye with a sigh and I'm going to the country o, la la la la la I'm going to the country sunshine smile on me birds singing, I'm singing in my bones doesn't much matter now where I'm going get it when I get there is what I'll do if I get enough I'll give some to you and I'm going to the country o, happy as can be I'm going to the country sunshine smile on me ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:47:31 -0500 From: "Jenny Goodspeed" Subject: Re: HAPPY SONGS NJC Funny, I was wishing I had added February to my sad song list. And Mortal City. Want to add JT's "Another Grey Morning' too. On 2/13/07, Deb Messling wrote: > > Happy: > > Time and Love, Laura Nyro > One Misty Moisty Morning, Steeleye Span > Hal An Tow, The Oyster Band > > And two more sad ones: > > February, Dar Williams > Ain't Life a Brook, Ferron > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deb Messling -^..^- > dlmessling@rcn.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:52:45 -0500 From: "Jenny Goodspeed" Subject: Re: Joni moments this past week or so well thank you for chiming in jim. i was prepared to have yet another post go out into the ethernet all by it's lonesome. hey my therapist says that's good for me though. helps me grow a thicker skin in the face of rejection (kidding, i don't have a therapist...anymore). good suggestions. i was thinking Clouds or LOTC for Spring. But I get stuck on autumn. I wouldn't have thought of Mingus, but now I'll have to go give that a listen. jenny On 2/13/07, Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama wrote: > > Spring is CLOUDS. Autumn is MINGUS (slow fade to black). > > That thread about depressing songs doesn't tempt me at all. I guess I'm > in > a good place now... or maybe just superstitious. > > Jim L. > > Jenny Goodspeed asked, > >Hejira and winter go hand and hand. Hm, if Hejira is winter, and HOSL is > summer, what is spring and what is autumn?> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:43:53 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni moments this past week or so Well, it's not like the JMDL is hurting for lack of posts - dang, it's as busy as it's been in a long time, and I'm loving it. Especially all the new voices. But since you're my pal and shamelessly begging for feedback, I'll chime in and say that I really liked what you said about every listen to Hejira revealing something new - I was totally wagging my head up and down like a bobblehead in the backseat while reading that comment. Bob NP: Claire Martin, "Black Crow" (awesome!) _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:53:38 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Shadows and Light >>Incidentally, this is one of the few soundboards from that tour, currently on dimeadozen Laurent I saw that. With Pat and Jaco's solos cut, I to decided to pass it by. Michael Flaherty _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:35:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: If I Could Only Remember My Name Coming out Thursday from Rhino. Hope there is loads of Joni content on the DVD: DAVID CROSBY If I Could Only Remember My Name (Deluxe Edition) $24.98 CD A deluxe two-disc CD/DVD reissue of the Rock Hall of Famer's classic 1971 solo debut. Includes the previously unreleased "Kids And Dogs" (featuring Jerry Garcia on guitar), 5.1 mixes, and rare video footage. Songwriter, rock icon, social justice activist, and master of harmony, David Crosby is a two-time Rock and Roll Hall of Famer, inducted as a member of both The Byrds and Crosby, Stills & Nash. His resume also includes a decades-long solo career, multiple albums with Graham Nash, and a wealth of jazz-flavored work with CPR, the trio Crosby formed with his son James Raymond in 1995. A native Californian, Crosby began his storied career in the coffee house scene of the early 1960s and went on to influence the sound of country rock, the face of the Woodstock generation, and the vocal techniques employed by the Grateful Dead on such classics as Workingman's Dead and American Beauty. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:57:44 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: 33 1/3 Court and Spark book Just finished this, and recommend it highly. Normally I don't like song-by-song review type books, but the author has lots of insights into the themes and meanings Joni had for these songs, some no doubt his own imagining. He also delves into the lyrical content of songs from Blue and FTR along the way. He considers "Down To You" the pinnacle of Joni's artistry, and has little praise for her later period. I'm a music-first person, so it was fun to read such well written views from a lyrics- first person. It gives me a new respect for what David Crosby says, that when the dust settles, she will be...well,,,dusty I guess, but head and shoulders above her contemporaries. RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:50:02 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Another JoniFest dream In a message dated 2/13/07 5:12:57 PM, Motitan writes: > Anyone into figuring out what dreams mean? > See you all in six and a half weeks at the REAL JoniFest, > ------------------------ > I love dreams and that sort of thing but I'm not too good at figuring them > out. They fascinate me. I've even got a dreams book but its very vague and > usually doesn't help much anyway. Perhaps your dream means you have an > obsession with your Mother. Freud would say so anyhow, haha! See you at > Jonifest! > -Monika > > Odd that you should say that, as I HAVE been thinking a great deal about my mom recently, and how much more I miss her lately, since she passed away in 1980. I've been researching my family roots and writing a book about my findings. But my dreams of JoniFests seem to revolve around the attendees sharing rooms in a big house, so I've probably got this theme stuck in my brain since many people DO share rooms at Full Moom Resort, in large old houses/buildings. I wish the dreams would progress to where everyone plays the music so I'd at least have some entertainment before I wake up. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:50:54 -0500 From: Gary Z Subject: Re: HAPPY SONGS NJC Deb Messling wrote: > Happy: > > Time and Love, Laura Nyro > One Misty Moisty Morning, Steeleye Span > Hal An Tow, The Oyster Band > > And two more sad ones: > > February, Dar Williams > Ain't Life a Brook, Ferron > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deb Messling -^..^- > dlmessling@rcn.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, Debra, "Time and Love" is a great, uplifting Nyro song, and Laura's version shines. And as someone else mentioned, "Been on a Train" is one Laura's saddest songs. And Smurph, when I met Joni briefly backstage in 1969, a fellow said to her "But all of your songs are so sad!" And she replied "Well, there's "Night in the City......" I think one of the saddest songs that come to mind for me is a song by Kathy Mattea called "Where've You Been?" I can't get through it without tearing up. Best regards, Gary Z. Detroit Best regards, Gary Z. Detroit ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:03:59 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: HAPPY SONGS NJC another very happy song I thought of today is "Steppin' Out" by Joe Jackson. I was playing it the other night. You just feel good when you hear it. Great chord progression and awesome bass line. It's very infectious. Victor On Feb 13, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Jenny Goodspeed wrote: > funny i think coming up with happier songs is easier. maybe > because music > is my drug of choice and i'm always looking for songs to combat my > struggling mood. > > > too many to list, but here's a happy song i listened to on the way > home from > work. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:21:26 -0500 From: kjhsf@aol.com Subject: Re: HAPPY SONGS NJC I thought of this song when I was compiling my list--I only heard it once on the radio and it made me cry--especially when you discover that the married couple wind up in a nursing home at the very end. I just didn't remember anything about who sang the song or what the name was! Good choice! Another sad one that gets me is "Long Ride Home" by Patty Griffin, which tell of the husband's ride in the limousine after the funeral of his wife: "someone dug a hole six long feet it the ground, I said goodbye to you, and I threw my roses down" It gets me everytime! one more celebratory song, too--Roam, the B-52's Ken - -----Original Message----- From: nyro_in_detroit@comcast.net To: dlmessling@rcn.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 8:50 PM Subject: Re: HAPPY SONGS NJC Deb Messling wrote: > Happy: > > Time and Love, Laura Nyro > One Misty Moisty Morning, Steeleye Span > Hal An Tow, The Oyster Band > > And two more sad ones: > > February, Dar Williams > Ain't Life a Brook, Ferron > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deb Messling -^..^- > dlmessling@rcn.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, Debra, "Time and Love" is a great, uplifting Nyro song, and Laura's version shines. And as someone else mentioned, "Been on a Train" is one Laura's saddest songs. And Smurph, when I met Joni briefly backstage in 1969, a fellow said to her "But all of your songs are so sad!" And she replied "Well, there's "Night in the City......" I think one of the saddest songs that come to mind for me is a song by Kathy Mattea called "Where've You Been?" I can't get through it without tearing up. Best regards, Gary Z. Detroit Best regards, Gary Z. Detroit ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:14:37 -0500 From: "Evelyne Dubois" Subject: Re: Joni to work with.......? Not that I would know much about it from the inside but I yeah it make sense to me, songwriters/poets are independent "creatures" :-) or maybe I just like to think so ... Still, collaborations, the melting of personal colours between brilliant souls can bring out wonders as was the case with Joni and JP. I wouldn't mind seing a Joni - Cassandra Wilson collaboration. Actually, wasn't there a rumour about this tandem a few years ago? If not (I haven't checked the jmdl library.. ), it probably just seemed a good idea to me. Evelyne. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:14 PM Subject: Joni to work with.......? > Ok, well Joni hasn't "collaborated" with too many people (Mingus and so > forth). She's worked with people sure, bounced ideas off them, but has only > collaborated with a few people. Songwriters are independent creatures I think. > Anyway, this being said, and since she's writing again, is there anyone you > would like to see her work/collaborate with today? Not that she needs to but > I'm just throwing it out there. Why? > -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:29:47 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: 33 1/3 Court and Spark book I don't get it, Randy. Am I the only person who thought this book was dreadful? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Randy Remote Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:58 PM Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: 33 1/3 Court and Spark book Just finished this, and recommend it highly. Normally I don't like song-by-song review type books, but the author has lots of insights into the themes and meanings Joni had for these songs, some no doubt his own imagining. He also delves into the lyrical content of songs from Blue and FTR along the way. He considers "Down To You" the pinnacle of Joni's artistry, and has little praise for her later period. I'm a music-first person, so it was fun to read such well written views from a lyrics- first person. It gives me a new respect for what David Crosby says, that when the dust settles, she will be...well,,,dusty I guess, but head and shoulders above her contemporaries. RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:32:08 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: RE: Joni to work with.......? From: Evelyne Dubois >I wouldn't mind seing a Joni - Cassandra Wilson collaboration. >Actually, wasn't there a rumour about this tandem a few years ago? Yes, they've already collaborated! On an interview, that is. http://jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=96 I would certainly agree that the two would make a great musical collaboration. Cassandra and Bjork (gasp!?) are two of the few musical artists these days that (to me) are pushing the boundaries - much like Joni did in the 70's. Les ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:48:28 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Saddest songs How could I forget- Long Ride Home by Patty Griffin (hi Les). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:06:57 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Happy songs njc How could I forget- "Home " by Karla Bonoff (hi Kate) On Feb 13, 2007, at 11:48 PM, Kate Bennett wrote: > How could I forget- Long Ride Home by Patty Griffin (hi Les). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:03:14 -0500 From: "Evelyne Dubois" Subject: Re: Joni to work with.......? Very interesting article, thank you for pointing it out Les (hmm...reminds me I should use the library tool more often). So Joni-Cassandra does make sense don't it! Unfortunately, we can only fantasise about what the end-product would sound like . The article mentions Joni and Brian Blade working on an album, a "drums-only" accompaniment that should have been released sometime in Feb of 97... heuuu, did I miss something ??!! or would this be Joni collaborating on some Blade production? (I'm not familiar with his works). "... Mitchell's latest work involves drums-only accompaniment. With her arsenal of created guitar timings, she and Brian Blade (That's right, Joshua Redman's drummer) have formed a music both spare and florid, improvisational even as it surrounds that inimitable voice, (Untitled at presstime, the album is scheduled for a February release date.)..." Note: For some reason I would imagine a Cassandra-Bjork tandem to be more obvious than a Joni-Bjork tandem, but then again, i'd love to be suprised otherwise ! Evelyne. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Irvin" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:32 PM Subject: RE: Joni to work with.......? > From: Evelyne Dubois > >I wouldn't mind seing a Joni - Cassandra Wilson collaboration. > >Actually, wasn't there a rumour about this tandem a few years ago? > > Yes, they've already collaborated! On an interview, that is. > http://jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=96 > > I would certainly agree that the two would make a great musical > collaboration. Cassandra and Bjork (gasp!?) are two of the few musical > artists these days that (to me) are pushing the boundaries - much like Joni > did in the 70's. > > Les ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:14:27 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: The 10 saddest songs I've ever heard njc Thanks randy, I must have missed this story the first time around. I knew them both for a very short time (after they'd parted), now I think I understand more about what happened... I never knew... From: "Robert Procyk" > 6.) Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You? - Stevie Nicks (not so much > the song but the story behind it regarding Joe Walsh and his deceased > daughter - read it here and tell me it doesn't sock you in the gut: > http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=4763 Walsh's "Song For Emma" must qualify as one of the saddest ever. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:20:23 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Happy songs njc Hi victor, happy songs yes! - -----Original Message----- From: Victor Johnson [mailto:waytoblue@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:07 PM To: Kate Bennett Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Happy songs njc How could I forget- "Home " by Karla Bonoff (hi Kate) On Feb 13, 2007, at 11:48 PM, Kate Bennett wrote: > How could I forget- Long Ride Home by Patty Griffin (hi Les). ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #68 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------