From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #61 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, February 11 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 061 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Paz report (joni content also) ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Shades of Scarlet Conquering ["mike pritchard" ] RE: John Cale njc ["mike pritchard" ] RE: John Cale NJC (now NJCC) ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Joni's Hall of Fame Audio [Victor Johnson ] photo rehearsals and reviews ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: Subject: braids and bandana anyone [Davmar77@aol.com] Re: Paz report (joni content also) [Michael Paz ] Re: braids and bandana anyone, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Dancing Joni - G&M review ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: braids and bandana anyone, njc [Motitan@aol.com] re: Shades of Scarlet Conquering [Motitan@aol.com] couch vs sofa [Kate Johnson ] SJC Bandanas and braids, reclusivity [missblux@googlemail.com] For The Roses for the hippies? [Motitan@aol.com] Re: couch vs sofa [Motitan@aol.com] Re: couch vs sofa - njc ["Evelyne Dubois" ] Re: couch vs sofa - njc [Victor Johnson ] A Joniamigo makes good-the official article! NJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Joni's Hall of Fame Audio ["Randy Remote" ] Re: color, njc [Victor Johnson ] color, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: color, njc [Victor Johnson ] Re: photo rehearsals and reviews ["Randy Remote" ] target, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: target, njc [Em ] braids and bandana anyone, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: Joni's Hall of Fame Audio [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Joni's Hall of Fame Audio [Victor Johnson ] Equal Rights Amendment, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] views on the Simpsons portrayal of its own country and others (njc) [Vict] racial violence (njc) [Victor Johnson ] Guilford College President's response reg. Quaker core values and the violence on January 20 (njc) [Victor John] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:57:43 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Paz report (joni content also) >>I wanted to tell you that I spent the day with our dear Michael whose last name is prounced "Paws" instead of "Passz"<< not 'Path', as it would be in Spanish? mike in barcelona np - this flight tonight - joni ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:59:41 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Shades of Scarlet Conquering >>And don't get me started on "Edith and the Kingpin" . . . << Hey Joe, Any thoughts on "Edith and the Kingpin"? ;-) mike in bcn - river - joni ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:18:47 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: RE: John Cale njc Azeem posted, >>Anyway, what occurred to me yesterday (it's amazing the things that can hop unbidden into your mind when changing a nappy at 6.00am) is that John Cale's Welshness (his nationality was being discussed in the thread, for newcomers) is no small matter: a TV documentary I saw a few years ago made it clear how important his origins were; and the title of his autobiography is, magnificently, "What's Welsh for Zen?"<< Nice to have a Welsh thread again, thanks for reviving it Azeem. I'd like to see this documentary; any idea of the title? On another matter, and I'm trying not to dispute the remark, but I am curious about it; are you saying that Cale feels his nationality (Welsh in his case) more closely than other people do? Are we not all aware of our origins and conscious of their importance? Maybe it's a thing about people from small countries (in terms of population, I mean), and Ireland, Wales, and Catalonia would seem to fit that pattern. Maybe Cale's question in the autobiography is a trick one. There's no letter Z in Welsh, we usually use the S instead for English words which begin with the letter Z (sebra, seffyr, sero, sinc). I'll investigate and get back to you on this. meic in bcn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:23:45 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: RE: John Cale NJC (now NJCC) In mentioning Ireland and Wales as countries with low populations which may inspire, shall we say, 'special awareness and pride' about one's origins, I neglected to mention Scotland. Today's Guardian carries the obituary of the wonderful Scottish actor Ian Richardson, which makes clear his links to his homeland. I quote from the obit: >>Ian Richardson was born in Edinburgh, educated at the city's Tynecastle school and trained for the stage at Glasgow's College of Dramatic Art. His Scottishness remained important to him and I recall him proudly telling me, when he played Sherlock Holmes on screen, how Conan Doyle partly based the character on a famous Edinburgh physician.<< full story here http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,,2009860,00.html meic in bcn np Kronos Quartet: Philip Glass String Quartet #5 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:05:52 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Joni's Hall of Fame Audio Is that why I can't the kangaroo boxing match special? Damn Comcast... Victor On Feb 10, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > This is such a unique opportunity for those of us who are about as > far from Toronto as you can get. I would never have had the chance > to hear any of this if it weren't for Bob and Doug. I am so > grateful for this. Thank you both so much. > > I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the video. I doubt this > presentation will ever be shown on Australian TV. > > Mark in Sydney > > NP Music Matters - Faithless ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:15:51 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: photo rehearsals and reviews There' s a nice montage of Grant Black's ballet rehearsal photos here: http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/galleries/dancingjoni/index.html She still looks glam, even in jeans and snow boots ! A couple of Calgary Herald reviews at http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=daa3eddc-6176-4d0a-99d6-446b0c973769 http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=6731f28e-4b77-41f6-9ea0-c9449057719b Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=43.658648~-79.383962&style=r&lvl=15&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3702663&cid=7ABE80D1746919B4!1329 From January 26 to February 8, 2007 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:35:53 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Paz report (joni content also) Sherelle I have had clams everyday since I have been here. I am having so much fun on this tour but it is alot of work. Not much time for everything I would like to be doing. Thanks so much for the glowing report and for coming to my rescue to help me and keep me company. Best Paz On Feb 9, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Sherelle Smith wrote: Hi everyone, I wanted to tell you that I spent the day with our dear Michael whose last name is prounced "Paws" instead of "Passz" (Donna, he said you started that one!). He'd just gotten back from his brother's funeral that was held the day before. I told him that I was just there for support so whatever he needed me to do, I would help. Well the phone was ringing off the hook, there were reports, there was merchandise to be counted, there were scheduling changes...my goodness! He had no time to be sad. So I helped him count merchandise that would be sold at the next show and just kept him company. Sometimes, it is better to just "be there". Words aren't always necessary. There was a rehearsal at 3:30 at the symphony hall there in Baltimore. Paz introduced me to the band who are a crazy and wonderful bunch of guys and we all rode together to the rehearsal. I felt so honored! Claudia would be meeting us later for dinner but could not join us for the rehearsal as she had some work deadlines to make. Paz, in his usual, genorous spirit introduced me to The Preservation Hall band as a jazz singer but I didn't feel right about that so I added, "but today, I'm just a friend..." My whole reason for being there was just to support a dear friend to whom I owe a huge debt of gratitude. I was thrilled beyond words to be present for the rehearsal and for the show in Bethesda the following night. I felt like royalty sitting in the third row show night and some of the band members who saw me sitting there with Rob waved hello when entering the stage. That was special too. They are all funny, talented, crazy, oh yeah, and even more talented! The show was absolutely phenomenal and I have become a believer in keeping the legacy of New Orleans Jazz alive. They make the instruments speak a language of their own. During one song "Just A Closer Walk With Thee", the saxophonist Darryl Adams actually made the sax sound like it was weeping. I was flabbergasted! Sitting there, I got New Orleans Jazz and I got why it is so important to preserve its legacy. It's just as important as the Washington Monument, the Lincoln Memorial and any other landmark because it is American History. The house was packed and everyone enjoyed the second line dance at the end. I was too far in the middle of the row to join in my our Paz jumped in with his white hankerchief and did his thing around the auditorium! It was a magnificent experience and one that I will never forget. Most of all, I hope I made my friend's day after a little easier. Claudia and John will be attending the Saturday night performance along with a wonderful singer/songstress friend of hers named Karen who sounds reminiscent of Patti Griffin. Carl who plays banjo with Preservation Hall hung out with us until the wee hours of the morning jamming. What a gifted player he is! Paz played and sang and it was so nice to see the smile on his face as he strummed the guitar. Carl and the rest of us Joni-onlies got into a discussion and debate about Joni's open tunings but he knew he was outnumbered! In the end, Joni writes for herself. We are welcome to come along for the ride, but she's writing in her own way and for her own need to express her music. Her music is a challenge and it is innovative. In years to come, I think it will be studied regularly in music theory classes. She is truly a groundbreaking songwriter. So all in all, we had a great time just being together, going to dinner, watching Paz savor his oysters and clams in a concoction of ketchup, horseradish and hot sauce and just being with people who mean so much to you. Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/ mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:43:45 EST From: Davmar77@aol.com Subject: Re: Subject: braids and bandana anyone kind of sounds like a question you'd hear on a late night cable movie. just kidding, dave :-) > > ... ... what are you people wearing...??? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:18:33 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Paz report (joni content also) LMAO!! On Feb 10, 2007, at 6:57 AM, mike pritchard wrote: >> I wanted to tell you that I spent the day with our dear Michael >> whose last name is prounced "Paws" instead of "Passz"<< not 'Path', as it would be in Spanish? mike in barcelona np - this flight tonight - joni ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:51:51 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: braids and bandana anyone, njc Bene asked: > ... what are you people wearing...??? > A long sleeved navy blue tee shirt with the white letters FD then a white emblem then NY on the front, Levi's, cowboy boots, my wedding ring, and all the essentials underneathe. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:53:39 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Dancing Joni - G&M review http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070210.BALLET10/TPStory/?query=kaija+pepper Joni Mitchell's plea for paradise KAIJA PEPPER Special to The Globe and Mail Dancing Joni & Other Works Alberta Ballet at the Southern AlbertaJubilee Auditorium How could anyone fail to be moved by a ballet that ends with a little girl holding two fingers up in the peace sign so beloved in the sixties and seventies? The Fiddle and the Drum, a collaboration between legendary singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell and Jean Grand-Mantre, the artistic director of Alberta Ballet, is a plea for sanity in these warring and environmentally threatened times. So you'd have to be made of stone not to have felt a catch in the throat as the child (Clara Stripe) -- who represents the future of this planet -- is given her few moments alone on stage. Perhaps the 45-minute work is a little too sentimental to be truly heart-stopping, but it's full of athletically thrilling dance choreographed by Grand-Mantre, and it's set to non-stop Joni. That, on both counts, is a good start. First, the music. The 63-year-old, Alberta-born Mitchell has been writing songs for four decades, and her vivid poetry and startling rhythms will play in some people's heads forever. Involving Mitchell was a canny move by Grand-Mantre, who's always thinking about how to broaden the potential audience for his dance company. He's already gone the story-ballet route (which apparently people prefer over abstract works). Now it's the turn of setting dance to popular music. Grand-Mantre's move was also heart-felt, judging from his sensitivity to the nine-song soundtrack that includes some tunes from a 1980s album called Dog Eat Dog as well as two new pieces and a surprise encore set to Big Yellow Taxi. For the most part, he avoided choreographing literal movements to words, and his choreographic relationship to the music was occasionally stunning. Grand-Mantre created streams and eddies of constantly flowing movement, filling the stage with eye-catching dance. At times, performers crossed upstage in single file, neatly leaping or marching, sometimes carrying flags, while a downstage duet or trio worked in a more detailed way. The movement draws on a wide range of styles -- hip hop, jazz, modern and club -- but it's mostly balletic, and in fact there are too many gorgeous arabesques, high-flying leaps and pretty arms. After all, The Fiddle and the Drum is about destruction, and though this company is increasingly thrilling to watch in pure ballet vocabulary, it was not always appropriate here. I would have preferred more of the startling theatrics found in the opening, before the curtain is even raised. This is set to an early Mitchell song, which asks: "How did you come to trade the fiddle for the drum?" Here, a single dancer stands still before us, costumed in white trunks, his bare-chested body streaked with red and green paint, his lips eerily scarlet. The other dancers join him, similarly costumed and painted (except the women are in short leotards). Some wear First World War-style army helmets. They huddle together, and walk upstage. The war theme developed when Grand-Mantre first approached Mitchell and found her in the midst of a project involving her second career as a painter. Grand-Mantre's original conception of the collaboration was biographical, but now, impressed by her mixed-media images depicting war and revolution, more serious ideas emerged. Based on these images, Mitchell also designed the visuals for The Fiddle and the Drum. Shots of the Earth and the moon seen from space are projected on a circular screen placed upstage, and also on both sides of the proscenium. The latter are unfortunately placed so far to the left and right they are difficult to see without looking away from the dance. In her program note, Mitchell explained that with the "situation for all earthlings -- man and animals -- becoming so dire, I felt that it was frivolous to present a lighter fare," that it would be like "fiddling while Rome burned." Given these sentiments, opening the evening with George Balanchine's romantically mysterious Serenade from 1934 might not have been the most apt choice. Then again, there are many imperatives driving any art form, and many ways to inspire. Dancing Joni continues in Calgary today, and is in Edmonton at the Northern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium Feb. 16-17 (Ticketmaster: 403-299-8888 or 780-451-8000). Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Buy what you want when you want it on Sympatico / MSN Shopping http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/content/shp/?ctId=2,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=081805 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:10:44 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Shades of Scarlet Conquering Hi Ya'll, Cool that people are talking about this because for the past few weeks I've been listening to this song over and over again, taken by it. I love the whole song but these are some of my favorite lyrics: "She comes from a school of southern charm she likes to have things her way; anyman in the world holding out his arm would soon be made too pay." "Given in the night to dark dreams from the dark things she feels." "Dressed in stolen clothes she stands" The completenes of the song, the words the instrumentation and the way Joni sings it, captivates me. So much color and movement in the emotion. And, being here in the south and having played at and visited many times "The Old Mill" which is in the opening scenes of Gone With the Wind, I feel like I've been there. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:35:55 -0600 From: "mia _" Subject: re: RE: Happy Birthday - NJC Yes, NPR rocks! There's nothing like it. (although I once got into it with a very mean man who proclaimed it to be ''welfare radio'' - I thought, sheesh, don't your kids go to public school? - welfare school; watch sesame street? - welfare tv; don't you have a street in front of your house? - welfare roads, etc..). I have learned more from NPR than from any other news outlet - EVER! And the music on World Cafe - outta this world!! Speaking of Carly Simon, I saw her on one of the morning shows yesterday. She sang a rendition of "Oh, Susannah" and then they cut to a commercial right in the middle of the song. Then she came back and sang "Blackbird" - after two lines, they cut her off again and went straight to a commercial. Is it just me, or are tv commercials getting even more out of control? Mia <> _________________________________________________________________ From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards. http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:03:54 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: braids and bandana anyone, njc what are you people wearing...??? - ----------------------------- Really nice flared blue jeans (they are new so I still love them!), a black shirt with sleeves that widen at the end, a black tanktop underneath, and a bag over my head. - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:04:43 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: re: Shades of Scarlet Conquering Return-path: From: Motitan@aol.com Full-name: Motitan Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:04:08 EST Subject: Re: Shades of Scarlet Conquering To: LCStanley7@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5037 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain "Given in the night to dark dreams from the dark things she feels." - ------------------------------- I have not heard this song yet as I don't own the album (someday!). But I have to say, that line in particular is damn good. Wow. I like that. - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:13:43 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: couch vs sofa "And when the press asked me about the paintings, I said Id painted them to go with my couch. " - -Joni, in an interview (found by following links at http:// www.calgaryherald.com) Is "couch" Saskatchewanese or Canadianese? I know absolutely no one who uses the word "sofa," and hear it only on American TV shows. In my family, it's a couch. We also commonly use the word "chiffonnier" (sp) to talk about the tall bureau with drawers that is used in bedrooms. Kate du Nord http://xoetc.antville.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:47:34 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: SJC Bandanas and braids, reclusivity I am confused. Some of you are old enough to be long-time Mitchell fans. Am I to assume that in addition to what you say you wear you also have long grey braids and bandanas...? I had my braids cut off when I was 11. But am growing my hair now. By the time it turns grey I'll be entitled to call my self a longtime Mitchell fan too. So I guess I'll have to wear braids then. I find it hard to imagine Joni in that outfit though. I'm ranting, it's been a long Saturday! But one more thing. Did anyone notice that the two articles about Joni's induction in the hall of fame, and also in the one today about the ballet, they used the word 'reclusive' about her? It does seem to stick to her.... Bene (mostly in brown and black on this damp and dark day) Laura: A long sleeved navy blue tee shirt with the white letters FD then a white emblem then NY on the front, Levi's, cowboy boots, my wedding ring, and all the essentials underneathe. Paz (blue jean pants(es) black faux turtle neck and sox in cold ass Baltimore and all my pals are asleep) LL Bean yellow down vest, sky blue tie-dye Grateful Dead shirt, gray sweatpants (I know, how attractive) bare feet. Em - --- Victor Johnson wrote: > Pants, a shirt, an undershirt, socks, underwear, and a Boston Red Sox > > jacket if I go outside because its so cold and nasty out there. > > Victor > > NP: Grieg- Piano Concerto in Am > > > > > > On Feb 9, 2007, at 7:22 PM, missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > > > "Stakenas' long grey braids and '60s-style bandanna gave her away > as a > > longtime Mitchell fan." > > > > ... what are you people wearing...??? > > > > Bene ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:33:27 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: For The Roses for the hippies? I remember right before I got the FTR, I looked it up on Amazon to read the reviews. Well if you do frequent Amazon you will know that often depending on the items you look up, there will always be "lists" brought to your attention whether it has something to do with your item directly or just something in a similar strand. When I looked up FTR, I noticed there was a list of the x number of albums for hippies or to be owned by hippes. FTR was on the list, and Joni's only appearance on the list. So is FTR a hippie album more than any other album? Is it even a hippie album? What is a "hippie" album (besides a good album to smoke a little grass to!)? And why do you think this particular album vs. the others would be on here? What qualities make it supposedly so? There were other albums by artists like Neil Young, Crosby, Stills, & Nash, Bob Dylan, Simon & Garfunkel, the Grateful Dead, the Beatles, etc etc. What do you think? - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:33:20 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: couch vs sofa "And when the press asked me about the paintings, I said Id painted them to go with my couch. " - -Joni, in an interview (found by following links at http:// _www.calgaryherald.com_ (http://www.calgaryherald.com) ) - ---------------------------- LOL! That Joni! I think its rather ironic how the press likes to "paint" her as humorless. I believe someone else mentioned this before on this list. - -monika ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:41:09 -0500 From: "Evelyne Dubois" Subject: Re: couch vs sofa - njc Hi Kate and you all, I remember my old co-loc (roomate) Merl from Saskatoon used to employ the word "couch" all the time while my english speaking friends from Quebec employed both terms, "sofa" and "couch" indistinctively, as where my french speaking friends using both anglicisms to designate the french term "divan". Evelyne. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Johnson" To: Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: couch vs sofa > "And when the press asked me about the paintings, I said Id painted > them to go with my couch. " > -Joni, in an interview (found by following links at http:// > www.calgaryherald.com) > > Is "couch" Saskatchewanese or Canadianese? > I know absolutely no one who uses the word "sofa," and hear it only > on American TV shows. In my family, it's a couch. > We also commonly use the word "chiffonnier" (sp) to talk about the > tall bureau with drawers that is used in bedrooms. > > Kate du Nord > http://xoetc.antville.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:59:33 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: couch vs sofa - njc I've always used them interchangeably but at the moment I have neither...I use a futon for my couch. Victor NP: Handle on the Law....a hilarious radio show where you get marginal legal advice On Feb 10, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Evelyne Dubois wrote: > Hi Kate and you all, > > I remember my old co-loc (roomate) Merl from Saskatoon used to > employ the > word "couch" all the time while my english speaking friends from > Quebec > employed both terms, "sofa" and "couch" indistinctively, as where > my french > speaking friends using both anglicisms to designate the french term > "divan". > Evelyne. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kate Johnson" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:13 PM > Subject: couch vs sofa ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:04:01 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: A Joniamigo makes good-the official article! NJC Here's a tribute to our dear Paz in Offbeat magazine! http://offbeat.com/artman/publish/article_2025.shtml _________________________________________________________________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo  buy and sell with people you know http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:27:45 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: nJC Bandanas and braids, reclusivity In a message dated 2/10/07 11:47:42 AM, missblux@googlemail.com writes: > Am I to assume that in addition to what you say you wear you > also have long grey braids and bandanas...? > Hi Bene, I have some grey in my long hair but can't braid my hair myself. I do wear a bandana sometimes. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:44:39 -0500 From: seulbzzaj@aol.com Subject: Claire Martin Sings Joni Mitchell Hi Joni Fans, Here is a link to a concert of the great jazz singer, Claire Martin, singing a program of Joni Mitchell compositions (with one exception): http://rapidshare.com/files/15680486/2007-01-05_1831.rar.html I hope you enjoy it. - - Scott ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:06:55 +0000 From: "Stephen Toogood" Subject: Re: Shades of Scarlet Conquering Shades... is a song dear to me too. The only song that first captivated me on initial listens of THOSL. I agree, the movement of the song musically and emotionally fit well. "Dressed in stolen clothes, she stands cast iron and frail..." Love this line - which also implies the figure in the song is not the heroine from Gone With The Wind, but could be an actress playing her and identifying with her in a movie! This is what I've always thought. amelio747 >From: LCStanley7@aol.com >Reply-To: LCStanley7@aol.com >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Shades of Scarlet Conquering >Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:10:44 EST > >Hi Ya'll, > > Cool that people are talking about this because for the past few >weeks >I've been listening to this song over and over again, taken by it. > > I love the whole song but these are some of my favorite lyrics: > > "She comes from a school of southern charm she likes to have things her >way; >anyman in the world holding out his arm would soon be made too pay." > >"Given in the night to dark dreams from the dark things she feels." > >"Dressed in stolen clothes she stands" > > The completenes of the song, the words the instrumentation and the >way >Joni sings it, captivates me. So much color and movement in the emotion. >And, being here in the south and having played at and visited many times >"The >Old Mill" which is in the opening scenes of Gone With the Wind, I feel like >I've >been there. > >Love, >Laura _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving  check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:10:24 +0000 From: "Stephen Toogood" Subject: RE: For The Roses for the hippies? I suppose one could link it to all things hippy, in the sence that Joni did "get back to the garden" with FTR. amelio747 >From: Motitan@aol.com >Reply-To: Motitan@aol.com >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: For The Roses for the hippies? >Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:33:27 EST > >I remember right before I got the FTR, I looked it up on Amazon to read >the >reviews. Well if you do frequent Amazon you will know that often >depending >on the items you look up, there will always be "lists" brought to your >attention whether it has something to do with your item directly or just >something >in a similar strand. When I looked up FTR, I noticed there was a list of >the >x number of albums for hippies or to be owned by hippes. FTR was on the >list, and Joni's only appearance on the list. So is FTR a hippie album >more than >any other album? Is it even a hippie album? What is a "hippie" album >(besides a good album to smoke a little grass to!)? And why do you think >this >particular album vs. the others would be on here? What qualities make it >supposedly so? There were other albums by artists like Neil Young, >Crosby, Stills, >& Nash, Bob Dylan, Simon & Garfunkel, the Grateful Dead, the Beatles, etc >etc. What do you think? >-Monika _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving  check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:04:51 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: color, njc bring bACk oLivE gREEN _________________________________________________________________ Laugh, share and connect with Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:02:23 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Joni's Hall of Fame Audio I was just going to listen to James Taylor's Woodstock, and quit, but I couldn't stop until I'd heard the whole thing. Chaka Khan's Help Me was not quite as bad as expected- maybe her monitors weren't working-but Herbie Hancock's piano solo tore it up. JT put in a passionate performance! Thanks Bob & Doug who make me think of those other Canadian hosers, Bob & Doug McKenzie. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:23:51 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: color, njc yes iKNow jUsTwHaT yOUmEAn On Feb 10, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Marianne Rizzo wrote: > bring > bACk > oLivE > gREEN > > _________________________________________________________________ > Laugh, share and connect with Windows Live Messenger http:// > clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http:// > imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en- > us&source=hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:32:01 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: color, njc I am laughing a LOT over this! : -) : -) : -) - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Victor Johnson yes iKNow jUsTwHaT yOUmEAn _________________________________________________________________ From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards. http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:39:23 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: color, njc Laughter is a GOOD thing! Let The Happiness In by David Sylvian I'm waiting on the empty docks Watching the ships come in I'm waiting for the agony to stop Oh, let the happiness in I'm watching as the gulls all settle down Upon the empty vessels The faded whites of their wedding gowns The songs of hopeless selflessness The cold December Sun A cold that blisters The hands of a working man Wasted I'm waiting on the empty docks Watching the ships roll in I'm waiting for the agony to stop Oh, let the happiness in Oh, let the happiness in Oh, let the happiness in Listen to the waves against the rocks I don't know where they've been I'm waiting for the sky to open up And let the happiness in Oh, let the happiness in Oh, let the happiness in 'Cause it's coming Coming home Let the happiness in Oh, let the happiness in 'Cause it's coming Coming on, calling home Oh, let the happiness in 'Cause it's coming, coming home Oh, let the happiness in Victor NP: Emmylou Harris - Red Dirt Girl On Feb 10, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Marianne Rizzo wrote: > I am laughing a LOT over this! > > : -) > : -) > : -) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:17:22 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: photo rehearsals and reviews That can't be Joni--she isn't smoking! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael O'Malley" > There' s a nice montage of Grant Black's ballet rehearsal photos here: > > http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/galleries/dancingjoni/index.html > > She still looks glam, even in jeans and snow boots ! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:42:38 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: target, njc I liike the target ads on television. I think they are very creative. I like the repetition and the visuals. . I wonder who designs them. makes me want to shop there. : - ) _________________________________________________________________ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:55:03 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: target, njc I like the dog.... Em - --- Marianne Rizzo wrote: > I liike the target ads on television. > I think they are very creative. > > I like the repetition and the visuals. . > I wonder who designs them. > > makes me want to shop there. > > : - ) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows > Live > Spaces > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:05:42 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: braids and bandana anyone, njc >... what are you people wearing...??? right now? pajamas and a scarf it is cold in the kitchen (that is where the computer is) in general: black or natural From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: braids and bandana anyone "Stakenas' long grey braids and '60s-style bandanna gave her away as a longtime Mitchell fan." .... what are you people wearing...??? Bene _________________________________________________________________ Laugh, share and connect with Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:35:45 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Joni's Hall of Fame Audio Yeah, with five national networks, over one hundred cable channels and numerous community channels, you'd think there would be a kangaroo boxing match somewhere. It's our number one sporting event you know. Just like condescending, racial stereotyping are the favourite sport of ignorant Americans. Mark in Sydney (where ignorant stereotyping produced the shameful Cronulla race riots) NP Red Rain - Peter Gabriel On 11/02/2007, at 1:05 AM, Victor Johnson wrote: > > Is that why I can't the kangaroo boxing match special? Damn > Comcast... > > Victor > > > > On Feb 10, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > >> This is such a unique opportunity for those of us who are about as >> far from Toronto as you can get. I would never have had the chance to >> hear any of this if it weren't for Bob and Doug. I am so grateful for >> this. Thank you both so much. >> >> I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the video. I doubt this >> presentation will ever be shown on Australian TV. >> >> Mark in Sydney >> >> NP Music Matters - Faithless ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:03:02 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Joni's Hall of Fame Audio Mark get the chip of your shoulder. You wrote me offlist and accused me of being racist, asked me when the n**** burning was, and if I was wearing a hood. I tried to resolve this in the best way I could, I sent you an honest, genuine response, and now you're sending backhanded insults to me on the the jmdl. What the hell? Is this your idea of a joke? I posted a joke about an animal and you're all over me, accusing me of racial stereotyping and saying I'm ignorant? You don't even know me, or anything about me. This is way out of line. I am not going to be harassed by anyone on this list. If you are this uncomfortable in the jmdl community you should consider unsubbing and taking a break. I don't know what you're dealing with or what your situation is but this is very dangerous ground you're treading on. Victor On Feb 10, 2007, at 10:35 PM, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > Yeah, with five national networks, over one hundred cable channels > and numerous community channels, you'd think there would be a > kangaroo boxing match somewhere. It's our number one sporting event > you know. Just like condescending, racial stereotyping are the > favourite sport of ignorant Americans. > > Mark in Sydney (where ignorant stereotyping produced the shameful > Cronulla race riots) > > NP Red Rain - Peter Gabriel > > On 11/02/2007, at 1:05 AM, Victor Johnson wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:27:51 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Equal Rights Amendment, njc What do ya'll know about this? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:47:54 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: views on the Simpsons portrayal of its own country and others (njc) The following was posted on the roller-coaster.com.au forum, australia's premier theme park news and information source by "nev" from Sydney. Did the "Bart vs. Australia" Simpsons episode offend you? Not at all... You've gotta remember that the Simpsons is one of the most satirical shows to come out of the US, and I think that any American show that can look and laugh at its own culture should be given a heap of credit. The Australian episode is more a ridicule of the USA's view of our country, which challenges the attitudes and misconceptions that Americans have of Oz. The entire episode was not designed to be taken seriously - with the sticky kangaroo pouches, the booting, etc - it's all in the name of fun. Even if you take it to heart, just remember that we aussies give back much more than we get - Roy and HG and CNNNN are just two of our shows that rip and satirise American culture to shreds on a weekly basis. For me, the part in the episode where the kid gets on his bike and rides off into the distance to find his neighbour is one of the funniest Simpsons moments. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:22:00 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: racial violence (njc) I don't know if everybody read about this story or not but at the college I went to, Guilford College in Greensboro, North Carolina, several Palestinian students were attacked by members of the Guilford football team. When I heard about this a couple of weeks ago, I was very disturbed. I remember when I attended there in 1987-91, the football team consistently isolated themselves from everyone else, and several times harassed many of my friends, calling them lizards, granola, etc...One of my friends was seriously threatened because he had a mohawk. In any case, I was shocked that something like this could take place at Guilford, a college formed by the Quakers who are known for the tolerance and love for peace and conflict resolution. It has been reported that alcohol was involved and for some reason I'm not surprised. I used to live in the dorm where this took place and my friends and I shared a quad with one football player and his roommate, also a sports player. The one good thing that has come out of this incident is there have been several public forums and discussions at Guilford to prevent this from happening again. I have always loved different cultures and learning about different ways of life. I lived in Guadalajara for six months my senior year and it was a life changing experience. My family also hosted a girl from Japan over winter break and for many years after that, he parents would send my parents gifts from Japan that they still have. I wish that the world was not so divisive. Atlanta is very divided unfortunately though slowly progress is being made. Some people know I dated an African American girl for several months and even though we ended up breaking up(we are still good friends), it was a very valuable experience and honestly, I really enjoy intercultural/ interracial dating. The world is too small to be surrounded by yourself. There are too many beautiful places to explore. One of the songs I played at the Governor's Mansion was "Imagine" by John Lennon and while I was playing it, in my mind it was a subtle political message to all the powerful people that were there. Victor Sixth player charged in Guilford College assault case Updated 1/31/2007 11:28 AM ET GREENSBORO, N.C. (AP)  A sixth Guilford College football player was charged Monday with assaulting a Palestinian student, court officials said. Micah Rushing, 21, was released on a promise to appear, the Guilford County Magistrate's Office said. The charges stem from accusations by three Palestinian students who said they were beaten by several members of the school's football team, taunted with racial slurs and called "terrorists" just after midnight Jan. 20, according to court documents. Besides assault, the five other players have been charged with ethnic intimidation. Faris Khader, one of the three accusers, swore out the assault warrant against Rushing, the magistrate's office said. None of the charges against the players are the result of police investigation. Rushing is a wide receiver and running back who averaged nearly 142 all-purpose yards a game and was named to the Division III Old Dominion Athletic Conference all-conference team. Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:25:13 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Guilford College President's response reg. Quaker core values and the violence on January 20 (njc) President Chabotar's Op-ed, "College Student Behavior and the Bill of Rights" The following op-ed article was submitted by President Kent Chabotar to local and other newspapers, and published starting on Wednesday, Feb. 7, sometimes in edited form. Guilford College is founded on the Quaker values of peace, diversity, equality, justice and community. They hardly inure us from violence that occasionally disrupts our society. Events of early January 20 drove that point home harshly when students were caught up in a physical and verbal brawl in a residence hall. As we painstakingly use our campus judicial process to determine what happened, a spotlight is on us. People in the community, and indeed, the world, want to see how this college with such strong core values deals with a fight that may or may not have been a hate crime. While we search for truth in the Quaker tradition, let me tell you what I think. Quite naturally, news coverage and public discussion have stirred strong emotions among our students and the wider community. Some want action and they want it now. People are choosing sides and placing blame without knowing what actually happened. Impassioned debates are occurring in a factual vacuum. My staff and I have overheard students discussing the fight. In one exchange, one student said to the other, How do you know? You werent there. I was! None of us should jump to conclusions. Sadly, many have. I encourage everyone not to indict or convict individuals or groups based on the morning newspaper or the evening news. Reporters have to report and we accept that, but think about it, journalists cant know the truth when we ourselves who are investigating dont know it yet. All of us should take a breath, pause, and wait for the outcome of the probes. Ever since the fight, the term hate crime has been thrown about. We should remember that such a term refers to motives and not just actions. Let me give you a long sentence that goes to the heart of the matter: By law, individuals with different religious, racial, and other characteristics can fight and even use execrable words and the incident would not constitute a hate crime unless motivated by hostility to the victim as a member of that other group. Its more than semantics. A hate crime is subject to wholly different penalties and, as we discovered last week with the FBI investigation, can involve more than just the local criminal justice system. It can also motivate further retaliation, as might have happened last weekend when three off-campus males went into a residence hall looking for football players involved in the brawl but who had been moved off campus, at my direction, to avoid just such threats. Make no mistake, if the criminal justice system, with due process ensured by the Fourteenth Amendment, concludes it was a hate crime, we will call it a hate crime and proceed accordingly. But hate crime or no, Guilford simply will not tolerate any type of violence or verbal abuse by members of its community. As a professor of political science, I have been disappointed at how quickly many people have disregarded the protections ensured by the U.S. Constitution. The Fifth Amendment establishes a "due process of law." The Fourteenth Amendment guarantees that no state shall deny "any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Let me emphasize the terms equal, any person, and due process here, for any rush to judgment would deny the basic rights of all of those involved. I mentioned these protections to one off-campus critic who responded, Who cares? Its obvious theyre guilty. Let me alert our students that the Political Science Department is considering reinstituting a course in Constitutional Law. I like the idea. This troubling incident is also a teachable moment in terms of Quaker practice. The inclination towards preemptory judgment leads me to Query #17 from the Quaker Life and Practice Book of Christian Discipline, which reads: Do not allow the strength of your convictions to betray you into making statements or allegations that are unfair or untrue. Think it possible that you may be mistaken. It is so easy to be mistaken when strong emotions are felt. We can use this incident as a reminder of the measured processes that have long been established at Guilford to deal with such conflicts and questions as the ones that have arisen over the last few weeks. After the Battle of Guilford Courthouse during the American Revolution, the Quakers in the area treated the wounded of both sides. Today Guilford College is doing the same for those embroiled in the violence of last month. Some students involved sustained injuries, for which the president sorrows. I am a teacher first and an administrator second. Conversations are occurring all over campus about diversity, cultural awareness, violence, athletics, and a host of related topics. These astonishing reconciliation efforts deserved as much public attention as the original incident. Unfortunately, they did not get it. Regardless of the outcome of this case, I am determined that the very process the college follows be emblematic of what we stand for. We will maintain our core values. We will seek the truth. We will not rush to judgment. Guilford will come away from this incident stronger. 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