From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #52 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, February 4 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 052 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni anecdote, now NJC and Lucie Blue Tremblay [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Brits and the grape... NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Brits and the grape... NJC...& Nobel Peace Prize ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Another Joni anecdote [waytoblue@comcast.net] Re: Attendees [Bobsart48@aol.com] Sad news ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Urge for Going [Bobsart48@aol.com] Sad News...one more thing ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Brits and the grape... NJC ["Lori Fye" ] questions for Joni ["Marianne Rizzo" ] RE: [NortheastJonifest] Thank you, you big jonillovers, you!!! njc ["Jim ] Re: Newbie [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: STAS/MOA why oh why?!?! ["Lori Fye" ] global warming, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: Brits and the grape... NJC [Victor Johnson ] Lucy Blue, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] you turn me on, I'm a radio, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Jonu un NYTimes [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 20:38:48 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni anecdote, now NJC and Lucie Blue Tremblay obnoxious, but Chris took it to the max. He not only ejected the tape.....he threw it out the freakin' window!!! - -------------------------------- Oh that is unbelievable and not only did he cross the line, he crossed the border! Good for you for making him get it in front of his friends! Hope he learned his lesson! - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 20:52:01 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Brits and the grape... NJC In a message dated 2/3/07 11:49:11 AM, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: > Everyone wants things clean and not to waste things...(waste not want > not..my father use to say that in the sixties..for gosh sakes) But to > stretch...we are destroying the planet...I'm not there. > Hi Bree, Politics is in most everything humanity does by it's very definition, but when there are facts we can use, to think it is purely political to promote acceptance of these facts and weigh them in our subsequent actions seems self-defeating. To focus on jargon such as "destruction of the planet" is political in my opinion and sounds like something Rush Limbaugh might do. I agree that warming isn't the same as "destroying" the planet per se, but it could lead to changes that aren't favorable for humans and other animals and also plants. We are contributing to the warming of the planet, but the earth will take care of itself regardless of what we do to it. If the seas heat up and expand enough, Arkansas might be on the coast at some point, Florida, etc. underwater. The coast lines have a history of change; continents shift naturally. Humanity can be considered a force of nature like other natural phenomena that create obvious changes in the land and water. "We're only particles of change." Just fly over the USA and look at the geometric farms... we have changed the surface of the planet pretty dramatically as we are fruitful and multiply, and it is no surprise we are changing the atmosphere too. Change is part of evolution, and we are part of evolution. The difference between us and other forces on or of the planet is we can sometimes see down the road and make choices that might affect evolution in our favor. The real issue hasn't changed since your father's time... "what can we do to ensure a healthy future for our children and our children's children, etc.?" A big part of that has to do with taking good care of the garden and the green house. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:53:42 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Brits and the grape... NJC...& Nobel Peace Prize I wrote and thought I sent this earlier today....apologies if it shows up twice. And since so much has happened since I wrote it, let me add: Yay, Victor! Yay, Jill! And especially, Yay for all the Joni stuff happening just at this moment of the world. Amazing, isn't it? *********** Monsieur Muller measuredly wrote: Who's hysterical? Certainly not Al Gore. He's passionate, but not hysterical. When nearly 100% of the world of SCIENTISTS (not to be confused with political op-ed writers) are in agreement about the man-made changes in our world and its potential consequences, we should pay attention and do what we can to make sensible adjustments. Nothing hysterical about any of it. ***** Vous avez raison. (You have reason.) Let's not be saying: "Oh, sour grapes, because I lost my" planet in years to come because we didn't make changes. Wishing I were sitting in a park in Paris, France (where they dimmed the lights on Le Tour Eiffel to make a statement about global warning), I was reading the news, and it sure looks bad (*really* bad) today....but then this news item made me glad: Al Gore, Canadian Inuit activist nominated for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Doug Mellgren, Canadian Press Published: Friday, February 02, 2007 OSLO, Norway (CP) - Former U.S. Vice-President Al Gore and Canadian Inuit activist Sheila Watt-Cloutier have been nominated for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize for their wide-reaching efforts to draw the world's attention to the dangers of global warming, a Norwegian legislator said Thursday. http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=ed1c15fa-cda8-4285-8936-98ebe1964064&k=9799 Totally for this noble (nobel?) cause to save our wide wide world and lovely landscapes, and putting some time into Ecology and, oh yeah, giving peace a chance, Patti P. P.S. Happy birthday to Graham (65 yesterday) and Melanie (60 today)! May songs to these aging children still come. _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 21:06:19 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Another Joni anecdote Yes I am bored today. I was supposed to go out tonight but decided to stay in and hide from the bitter cold (it is 5 degrees right now!). Anyway, earlier my sister was sitting on the couch watching tv. I told her, "hey we're going to watch something real good from a DVD I have. The guitars sound fantastic and from what I hear it sounds like a great song. It's so short though it breaks my heart." My sister then replied, "Monika, I don't care." And then I basically said it's too good for you to miss and it'll be a birthday treat (it is her birthday today). So I popped in Woman of Heart and Mind and started pressing next to go through the chapters. When my sister saw what it was, she said, "You're making me watch Joni Mitchell? I don't like Joni Mitchell." I just told her to be patient and listen to how great it is. I then played her the clip from the Big Sur Festival and was ecstatic after watching it saying how good it is. My sister replied, "are you kidding me? That was too short to even judge whether it's good or bad." I of course disagreed. Oh and I forgot to say. Before showing that clip I was fast forwarding the clips with Joni and Graham in it and my sister said, "Graham Nash could have honestly done better than Joni Mitchell." I just said I thought they were a very nice couple (she's not a Joni fan...if you couldn't tell by now, haha). Point of all this is (well there's no point) I always like to share the things I enjoy. I do the same thing when I'm with friends. I'll bring over a concert DVD I like or bring attention to the music I'm playing in my car or make them a mixed cd telling them they have to listen to this. I have this annoying obsession with wanting to convert people to the things I like. I just want to spread the joy! Anyone else like this? - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 21:17:42 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: STAS/MOA why oh why?!?! About a couple weeks ago or so I had to return Song To A Seagull back to the library because someone else had ordered it and it was therefore on hold. Checking the system, it is due back on 02/20 and one other person is in line ahead of me! That means another 3 weeks more without it after the 20th unless the person returns it beforehand. I've been thinking I should just go out and buy it already but my cd rack is full! I'd need to buy another cd rack too! Oh I don't think I can wait so long though. In addition, I'll finally be getting Miles of Aisles shortly from the library. It is due on the 7th but that's still so far away to me. Days go by so very slow at times. The last two weeks have been a drag and I just wish they could be a blur. And I've been waiting for this one now for a little bit of time and I'm getting pretty anxious here. I believe it was Tom Petty who once said the waiting is the hardest part. - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:31:17 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Brits and the grape... NJC >Is all this hysteria needed? > >Such a strong word, Bree. As Bob asked, "Who's hysterical?" I don't think >anyone is hysterical over global warming ... at least not yet. Well it is a doomsday scenario that he and others present.. IF we don't change our ways...our gooses are cooked. What do we have.. about ten years tops...if we continue on the same course? Pretty apocalyptic outlook. >Al Gore pointed out in his film that there have been cycles of warmth (and >cold) over the centuries. However, the data that he presents (and with >which scientists concur) is that this warming "cycle" is VERY sustained, to >the point of abnormality. Did you say you've watched the film yet? I haven't seen his film ..but I have read and seen him on numerous TV shows. There are plenty of scientists who disagree with Al gore. That's a fact! Global warming.. and if it is a caused by man is the issue..many scientists say that it is not a proved hypothesis. If it were..all scientists would agree. >Oh wait, that's bad because Big Oil and its cronies won't be able to pocket >the profits from continued or increased demand RIGHT NOW. Pardon me, I was >thinking of the future instead of the present addiction to immediate wealth >and gratification. Sorry about that. Oil companies aren't my enemies. Aren't all business's about profit? >See, I think the word "hysterical" is better applied to those who are >fighting the facts about global tooth and nail, because they're getting >freaked out over the very thought that changes in most people's ways will >cut into their wealth. I disagree..it's not a matter of money. It's about something being presented as truth...and it's half-truths at best. I turn off lights when not in use ..for practical purposes only..to save on the electric bill. Bree >Lori, who has been running around turning off lights since around the age >of >10, >Santa Rosa, CA _________________________________________________________________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo  buy and sell with people you know http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:43:13 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: Joni anecdote, now NJC and Lucie Blue Tremblay >Oh that is unbelievable and not only did he cross the line, he crossed the >border! Good for you for making him get it in front of his friends! Hope >he >learned his lesson! >-Monika Yes, he did. Mama taught him the deeper meaning: R-E-S-P-E-C-T. Here's to all the Joni parents who have made it through these waves of the teen-aged years (not to mention those who are still in the thick of it like Cassy and Catherine, and you know....), and that includes Bill and Myrtle. *Especially* Bill and Myrtle. Ya done good! Can you imagine having a child who smokes at age 9? What a rough road to travel. Love, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 21:45:47 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Heckman on Joni Richard Flynn wrote: "Don Heckman in his New York Rimes Review of Blue, wrote: "I suspect this will be the most disliked of Miss Mitchell's recordings, despite the fact that it attempts more and makes greater demands on her talent than any of the others." Full review at: http://jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=801 " I would point out that this was hardly an unfavorable review, and in any event he more than redeemed himself a year later when reviewing Joni's Carnegie Hall concert - which I attended. _http://jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=814_ (http://jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=814) Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 19:08:36 -0800 From: "Jill Haas" Subject: Re: Another Joni anecdote Oh yea, baby! I just tuned one of my guitars to the tuning for "Coyote" and challenged my roommate to figure out how to play it. He is an accomplished musician (guitar, bass, piano, tenor sax), but his response was "this is totally foreign to me." I replied, "if you learn how to play even one Joni tune, I guaranee you'll become a fan." He says he'll have to think about it. BTW, are you going to try to make it to JoniFest? I would love to meet you! Jill - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: Another Joni anecdote I have this annoying obsession with wanting to convert people to the things I like. I just want to spread the joy! Anyone else like this? - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:06:48 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: Re: Another Joni anecdote When I first got into Nick Drake I was working at a music store and was constantly trying to convert people into Nick Drake fans. This was over 10 years ago, before Volkswagon ever thought of using his song "Pink Moon" in a commercial. I even threw a party for what would have been his 50th birthday and performed the song "Fruit Tree"...it totally felt like he was there in spirit. I still feel a deep comraderie with him. Victor NP: scrabble online/ESPN on television I have this > annoying obsession with wanting to convert people to the things I like. I > just want to spread the joy! Anyone else like this? > -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 22:07:58 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Attendees Bob Muller answered a question Subject: Re: Paz not going.doc Well Mike - FWIW I still plan on going. But I don't know if/what I'll be performing if anything. All my players have pulled out. Maybe we'll all just get up and do "Fiddle & The Drum". I was bummed about hearing some of that news. Even worse, I haven't touched a guitar in months. But I'm coming to the Fest if Ashara can tell me where to send the balance of my money Bobsart Crackin his fingers. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:21:43 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Sad news I did not put a njc tag on this because this concerns a dear Joniamigo. I just got a call from Paz tonight. We've been trying to make plans to get together next week in Baltimore with Claudia and John. Our dear friend Michael Paz has lost his brother Donald Joseph Allen to ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease). No one including Donald knew he had it until about three weeks before his death. Paz of course is pretty out of it. He said someone took him out last night and got him to take his mind off of things instead of him just going to his room to fall apart. He said that later he did go to his room and thankfully passed out. The group was onstage performing while he was on the phone with me. I asked him if he would like me to post on his behalf and he said he would. the funeral is Tuesday I believe and he will be flying back to Baltimore on Wednesday. I plan to make sure I am there to meet him in Baltimore and stand by my friend at this sorrowful time. He has suffered so much loss within these past two years yet he has been brave and courageous enough to keep living life to the fullest anyway. He truly is an inspiration to me and I feel so blessed to even know him. Please say a prayer or think some good thoughts to get him through this difficult time. He is our Joni friend of the heart. Thanks so much. Love, Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 22:20:03 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Urge for Going Monika wrote "Subject: Urge For Going I was just wondering if any of you have heard Crosby & Nash's cover of this song? It's such a beautiful rendition with their harmony vocals and all. In fact, this is how I first heard of the song. I had liked this song for a while now and then a while back noticed it was written by Joni. Of course, that was before I had started getting into her. I just thought, wow, they sure do cover a lot of Joni Mitchell songs................ What do you think of the song? I really love the guitar on the song as well. That opening is so hypnotic. " Ha ! I Hadn't touched my guitar in 3 months, and picked it up today - first song I played was Urge for Going, Joni style. Just something in the air maybe, with the onset of winter and all here in the northeast :-) Yeah, they do sort of seem to have a connection to Joni ;-) Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:34:04 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Sad News...one more thing I forgot to add that Paz said that the band played St. James Infirmary as a tribute to his brother last night and will do so tonight as well. That is so touching and I am grateful in my heart for these guys. They have hearts and souls.... Love, Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 19:37:36 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Brits and the grape... NJC Bree wrote: > Pretty apocalyptic outlook. Bree, many have said the same thing about GWBush ... it has seemed at times as if he really did want to rush us toward the Apocalypse. > There are plenty of scientists who disagree with Al gore. That's a > fact! Who? Seriously, I don't know any of their names. Do you? > Oil companies aren't my enemies. Aren't all business's about profit? Yes, but (for me, anyway) there's a difference between making a living and exploiting something (like fossil fuels) to eventual extinction, without having a concern for how taking it from the earth and burning it into the air might affect the planet. Without having an interest in or a plan for its replacement once it's gone. And there's a difference between prosperity and gluttony. Laura wrote: > The difference between us and other forces on or of the planet > is we can sometimes see down the road and make choices that > might affect evolution in our favor. Your post was eloquent and right on the mark, Laura. Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:36:52 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: questions for Joni did we do this before? I can't remember. . Imagaine you meet up with Joni and you can actually speak. . . what are the 100 questions you would ask her? (add to the list) 1. Who is Martha? From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #37 Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:09:16 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: re: Martha? Thinking back to the period, the only Martha who made headlines for an extended period and might have been obvious at the time was Martha Mitchell, the wife of Nixon's Attorney General John Mitchell. She made headlines because she refused to shut up about the Watergate scandal and her husband's role in it. It seems to be consistent with the song, no? Given Joni's admiration for those who don't go quietly, I'm thinking Martha is the other Ms. Mitchell. Martha died in a Washiington hospital about a year before DJRD was released, having lapsed into a coma. Maybe it's the lines about Washington from "Otis and Marlena" that point me in that direction? RIP Martha I don't know why - but I remember thinking when this album first came out that the Martha she mentions was John Mitchell's wife. Talk about talk to me .... this dame wouldn't shut up! _________________________________________________________________ Valentines Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095&tcode=wlmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 22:33:07 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: RE: [NortheastJonifest] Thank you, you big jonillovers, you!!! njc Jill, Welcome "home". It's great to hang around a dozen or more people who all know every lyric. One year, I drove from Cincinati to Detroit, through southern Ontario then crossed back into the US at Niagara Falls. When we arrived at JoniFest, someone asked, "How was the drive?" I said, "It's a long, long way from Canada." :) Jim L. Jill Haas said in part, >To all that have either contributed to my shameless plea for money to go to JoniFest and to those who have sent me exceptionally cool recordings, links to great stuff, etc., etc., and ad infinitum. Your generosity is unparalled. Finding JMDL has been one of the highlights of my very boring life.> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 22:44:14 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Newbie Thea initialized "Now, I've probably written more than you ever wanted to hear from me...I'll" try to keep it a little shorter in future! Peace, Thea" No way ! More ! We love the new member posts - and especially you yutes. (My daughter doesn't post, but she's been a convert for 6 years now - she's 26) Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 19:50:46 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: STAS/MOA why oh why?!?! > I've been thinking I should just go out and buy it already but my cd rack is full! Buy another rack, or stack the extra CDs on the floor. But buy everything Joni ever recorded. You won't regret it. : ) Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:50:12 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: global warming, njc trees in the forest are like the lungs of the earth (and so beautfiul) water all throughout the earth like the blood in our veins deforestation: the word itself makes me feel sad it is harmful to the body to cut our lungs and damage our blood the air too _________________________________________________________________ Check out all that glitters with the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards. http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline2 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 22:57:42 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Brits and the grape... NJC Scientists seldom all agree with each other. Why should they start now. Victor On Feb 3, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Lori Fye wrote: > >> There are plenty of scientists who disagree with Al gore. That's a >> fact! > > Who? Seriously, I don't know any of their names. Do you? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:53:21 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Lucy Blue, njc I saw her in concert a while back in Rochester from Patti: >I was driving my then 11-year old son Chris and some of his teammates home >from a (damned) hockey game, and I had a French/English cassette tape >playing that I really liked. Lucie Blue Tremblay. (Holy Merde! I had >forgotten about her! I loved her and will have to check out her new stuff. > I don't remember ever seeing her mentioned here, but surely our >Canadien/Canadienne friends know her, n'est-ce pas?) _________________________________________________________________ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. http://get.live.com/messenger/overview ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:03:46 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: you turn me on, I'm a radio, njc reminds me of when I was a kid. . there was this great little deparment store with lots of cool candy (sour is my favorite) and little toys and stuff. . and I said back then, "when I get big and I get some money I am going to come to the store (it was called "Merrils" on Thurston road) and buy WHATEVER I WANT." well, when I got big. . it CL O S E D. : -( From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Joni anecdote NJC now You turn me on, I'm a radio RR wrote: I was a radio addict from a young age. In the car, my mother would say 'when you are old enough to drive, you can listen to whatever station you want"....fastforward: I have my driving permit. My mother changes the station. "What are you doing?" "When you have your own car, you can listen to whatever station you want" LOL, Randy! We laugh at how your desire to listen to whatever you want has always been denied! I hope you have your own vehicle now. _________________________________________________________________ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:17:34 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Brits and the grape... NJC >To focus on jargon such as "destruction of the planet" is >political in my opinion and sounds like something Rush Limbaugh might do Now as far as Limbaugh goes..he just states the obvious.... granted his opinions..... we all have them. His "thing" is that behind or hidden is an agenda that the environmentalist movement has..'......and that is.... more government regulation...more government interference...and to put us on..or America in... a more..shall we say ...even playing ground with the rest of the world. And what are Al Gore's solutions to the "man-made" warming? Flying around less in private jets? (how many lectures has he flown to in a private jet? and just how many CO2 emissions does that jet emit?) Leasing mountain acreage to strip-mining companies. (strip for ZINC in Tennessee! Step right up!) He has since sold his mountain top. He preaches..and oh so typical..do what I say..not what I do. He's no better than some of the fundamentalist preachers we decry (I know a certain woman who really does practice what she preaches... loves trees and nature and there is a certain piece of land she wants...and one day she will have it. BUT never would she lease it..strip it for a profit....she is authentic and real. This I admire!) > Humanity can be considered a force of nature like other natural >phenomena that create obvious changes in the land and water. "We're only >particles >of change." Just fly over the USA and look at the geometric farms... we >have >changed the surface of the planet pretty dramatically as we are fruitful >and >multiply, and it is no surprise we are changing the atmosphere too. >Change >is part of evolution, and we are part of evolution. The difference >between >us >and other forces on or of the planet is we can sometimes see down the road >and make choices that might affect evolution in our favor. No disagreement here ..we are all part of the evolving world....and it will go on long after we are all gone.. Until it is time that it is not evolving...and none of us have a say in that anyway. love... Bree >Love, >Laura _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 21:59:10 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Brits and the grape... NJC > Scientists seldom all agree with each other. Why should they start now. Interestingly, Victor, this appears to be one of the rare times when more of them are in agreement than not. Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 02:56:33 EST From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: Jonu un NYTimes Just got this from my friend at the LATimes. Not sure if it's posted yet as I'm way behind on my digest reading. Enjoy! Peace Mingus_http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/04/arts/dance/04yaff.html?_r=1&ref=arts& oref=slogin_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/04/arts/dance/04yaff.html?_r=1&ref=arts&oref=slogin) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #52 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------