From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #17 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 16 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 017 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni in Wikipedia ["Randy Remote" ] ...is this old news? Joni Re-issues ["Ross, Les" ] NJC was Joni anf God and became Nick Cave [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: Your favorite lyrics? [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Anyone here live in Western PA or Eastern Ohio? [CDTraderJohn@aol.com] Re: Your favorite lyrics? [Em ] Re: nine word challenge - Thanks! [Merk54@aol.com] Re: ...is this old news? Joni Re-issues [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #11 [MattJones ] RE: ...is this old news? Joni Re-issues ["Ross, Les" ] Re: Your favorite lyrics? [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Nine word Joni lyric challenge [Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com] Re: NJC was Joni anf God and became Nick Cave [missblux@googlemail.com] YouSendIt File Delivery Notification [Benedicte Nielsen via YouSendIt ] Re: NJC was Joni anf God and became Nick Cave/now Baez [missblux@googlema] "Twisted" twisted [Dave Blackburn ] Re: NJC was Joni anf God and became Nick Cave/now Baez [Em ] To One Of Our Own (NJC) ["Patti Parlette" ] Joni in Sunday Times [Garret ] Re: "Twisted" twisted [Catherine McKay ] re: 9 word lyrics, MLK (njc) ["anne@sandstrom.com" ] Re: NJC was Joni anf God and became Nick Cave [Catherine McKay ] njc, Crosby and Nash 2007 Tour ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: "Twisted" twisted [Smurf ] Re: Your favorite lyrics? ["Azeem Ali Khan" ] Re: Joni quoted in legal writings njc ["Azeem Ali Khan" ] RE: Your favorite lyrics? [Danilo Monno ] Re: Your favorite lyrics? [merk54@aol.com] Re: Joni in Wikipedia [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:39:32 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Joni in Wikipedia It was the 1996 Lifetime Acheivement Award from the now-defunct National Academy of Songwriters (NAS). Smokey Robinson (who did not attend) and Leiber & Stoller also received it that night. Joni's award was presented by Graham Nash, and she performed 4 songs that night with Rubin Blades and Darryl Johnson. http://jmdl.com/events/event.cfm?id=22 I was there! Joni walked right past me with 2 gentlemen. Tom Petty presented to Leiber & Stoller, later I stood next to Sally Kellerman at a champagne reception for Joni (who never showed). I also snuck in to hear Joni's soundcheck, but they threw me out, so I sat in the stairwell and listened. RR - ----- Original Message ----- From: >I noticed that Joni's page in Wikipedia does not include her induction into > the National Academy of Popular Music/Songwriters Hall of Fame in 1997. > Can > it please be added? ;- > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:57:25 -0000 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: ...is this old news? Joni Re-issues I got an email this morning from Amazon advising the imminent release (Jan 23rd) from Rhino of 'Remastered and Expanded' Joni recordings Court and Spark, Hissing of Summer Lawns and Hejira. Has anyone else heard this? I've just had a quick look at the Rhino website and can see nothing of Jonicity due for release. Lesmond of Lundim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:56:24 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC was Joni anf God and became Nick Cave Hi, a long time ago we had a discussion about Joni and God and I mentioned Nick Cave's Into My Arms as a song that is both a love song and a spiritual song. Ron, you said some very intersting things, and Laura did so too. And Nuri, but where has he gone? I quoted Nick Cave for saying that "ultimately the Love Songs exist to fill, with language, the silence between ourselves and God, to decrease the distance between the temporal and the divine." etc. The quotation is from two lectures he gave at the university of Vienna. He later recorded them on a CD which I just got hold of. I'ts called The Secret Life of the Love Song. He talks about love songs, songwriting, God, singing, pain, the Bible, love and hate, the sadism of love. It is very lucid, and wonderful to listen to because you can tell that being a song-writer, he is very careful with his language. Everyother sentence is like a proverb. He takes himself very seriously which I think is cute, some may be put off by it. I'd like to send the files to you if any of you are interested, to know what you think. Best Bene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:24:13 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Your favorite lyrics? I always thought these were brilliant.... Woke up, it was a _Chelsea_ (http://jonimitchell.com/research/g_entry.cfm?id=60) morning And the first thing that I heard Was a song outside my window And the traffic wrote the words It came ringing up like Christmas bells And rapping up like pipes and drums Oh, won't you stay We'll put on the day And we'll wear it 'till the night comes Woke up, it was a Chelsea morning And the first thing that I saw Was the sun through yellow curtains And a _rainbow on the wall_ (http://jonimitchell.com/research/g_entry.cfm?id=59) Blue, red, green and gold to welcome you Crimson crystal beads to beckon Oh, won't you stay We'll put on the day There's a sun show every second Now the curtain opens on a portrait of today And the streets are paved with passersby And pigeons fly And papers lie Waiting to blow away Woke up, it was a Chelsea morning And the first thing that I knew There was milk and toast and honey And a bowl of oranges, too And the sun poured in like butterscotch And stuck to all my senses Oh, won't you stay We'll put on the day And we'll talk in present tenses When the curtain closes And the rainbow runs away I will bring you incense Owls by night By candlelight By jewel-light If only you will stay Pretty baby, won't you Wake up, it's a Chelsea morning but some others come to mind... Well I looked at the granite markers Those tribute to finality to eternity And then I looked at myself here Chicken scratching for my immortality In the church they light the candles And the wax rolls down like tears There's the hope and the hopelessness I've witnessed thirty years We're only particles of change I know I know Orbiting around the sun But how can I have that point of view When I'm always bound and tied to someone White flags of winter chimneys Waving truce against the moon In the mirrors of a modern bank From the window of a hotel room and this one has always stuck to me... I heard it in the wind last night It sounded like applause Chilly now End of summer No more shiny hot nights It was just the arbutus rustling And the bumping of the logs And the moon swept down black water Like an empty spotlight ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:01:29 EST From: CDTraderJohn@aol.com Subject: Anyone here live in Western PA or Eastern Ohio? If anyone here on this list lives in or very close to any of the following cities . . . Hermitage, PA or Niles, OH or Boardman, OH . . . . would you please contact me off-list? I have a small favor to ask. Thank You John _CDTraderJohn@aol.com_ (mailto:CDTraderJohn@aol.com) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:06:35 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Your favorite lyrics? I'm real partial to: "Brash fields, crude crows In a scary sky ... In a golden frame Roped off Tourists guided by ... Tourists talking about the madhouse Talking about the ear The madman hangs in fancy homes They wouldn't let him near! He'd piss in their fireplace! He'd drag them through Turbulent Indigo" ....plus just about everything from LOC and FTR.. Em - --- Motitan@aol.com wrote: > I'm curious to hear what some of your favorite lyrics are from > Joni's songs. > Now I realize this might be kind of hard because from what I've > heard she > has some pretty damn good lyrics. She's not known for her writing > for no > reason! I don't have to tell you that, haha! So let's hear some of > your > favorite lyrics from her songs! This will be interesting. > -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:12:59 EST From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: nine word challenge - Thanks! First of all I want to say thanks to everyone who submitted lyrics. There were definitely some great ones in there. So far, I think the one that comes closest to the feeling I was looking is the following: I'll try to keep myself open up to you. I'll have to read them all again before I make a final decision. Thanks again! If you come up with any more, please let me know. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:30:32 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: ...is this old news? Joni Re-issues There has been quite a bit of anticipation and speculation about these, Sir Lesmond. I'll believe that release date when I see it. In other words, I don't think that 23Jan date is valid. Bob NP: 10cc, "Blackmail" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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I wont place a 'pre-order' then LOL! these anotations of remastered and 'expanded' sound so tempting and promising of somehow 'more'....sigh, oh well. i don't know, i just find it a stretch to hold out the hope that a 'resource' of unreleased recordings is lying somewhere out of sight waiting to see the light of day. the few scraps which have come into the public domain through official sources haven't exactly set my world on fire though i quite like "it's all over now baby blue" from that geffin boxed-set con/extortion/thingy. (Aaaaah eBay, the great leveller!) if there are going to be some additional things lumped onto these re-issues, i'm kinda hoping that it's not scratch versions of songs presented in another form on the official release if the "good friends" take is anything to go by. that left me signally underwhelmed. the outakes from the HOSL sessions, however, were well worth the effort. Well, we'll see...or not. and with that, bacque to lurquedomain huggamugga leslondinium np: No Quarter - Led Zeppelin......now, why does this make me think of Patrick? - -----Original Message----- From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com [mailto:Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Sent: 16 January 2007 14:31 To: Ross, Les Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: ...is this old news? Joni Re-issues There has been quite a bit of anticipation and speculation about these, Sir Lesmond. I'll believe that release date when I see it. In other words, I don't think that 23Jan date is valid. Bob NP: 10cc, "Blackmail" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:39:04 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Your favorite lyrics? Joni's lyrics are incredible and there are smatterings of brilliance throughout all of her records....BUT Hejira is from start to finish above and beyond what came before and after. It is difficult picking out particular sections as each song goes from one amazing phrase to another, but here are a couple of standouts: From "Amelia": People will tell you where they've gone They'll tell you where to go But till you get there yourself you never really know From "Furry Sings The Blues": Pawn shops glitter like gold tooth caps In the grey decay They chew the last few dollars off Old Beale Street's carcass Carrion and mercy Blue and silver sparkling drums Cheap guitars eye shades and guns Aimed at the hot blood of being no one From "A Strange Boy" While the boarders were snoring Under crisp white sheets of curfew We were newly lovers then We were fire in the stiff blue-haired house rules From "Hejira" Well I looked at the granite markers Those tribute to finality to eternity And then I looked at myself here Chicken scratching for my immortality From "Song For Sharon" A woman I knew just drowned herself The well was deep and muddy She was just shaking off futility Or punishing somebody My friends were calling up all day yesterday All emotions and abstractions It seems we all live so close to that line and so far from satisfaction From "Blue Motel Room" You and me, we're like America and Russia We're always keeping score We're always balancing the power And that can get to be a cold cold war We're going to have to hold ourselves a peace talk In some neutral cafe From "Refuge Of The Roads" In a highway service station Over the month of June Was a photograph of the earth Taken coming back from the moon And you couldn't see a city On that marbled bowling ball Or a forest or a highway Or me here least of all NOW can you see why so many people recommended Hejira as your next Joni acquisition? 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If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:53:13 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: NJC was Joni anf God and became Nick Cave Hi Laura and all, I've sent the first Nick Cave lecture by Yousendit. I'll wait until I get the digest to see if it really works. If it does, I'll send a second one tomorrow. I find that Astrid Seriese very moving. This morning, I heard part II of that Radio4 program where someone mentioned Joni last week. This time, it was folk singers. No Joni mention, but someone talked about how he'd rather listen to Dylan than to Pavarotti, because Pavarotti was more about sounding good. Then he mentioned Joan Baez, and said what a beautiful voice she had, but that he felt that the songs were somehow subservient to the voice. I tend to agree, although I haven't listened to her a lot, for the same reason. The programme is short and quote nice: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/thesingernotthesong/pip/bqnpd/ Bene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:31:08 -0800 (PST) From: Benedicte Nielsen via YouSendIt Subject: YouSendIt File Delivery Notification Hello from YouSendIt, You have a file or files called 01 - The Secret Life Of The Love (1 file(s)) from BN208@CAM.AC.UK waiting for download. You can click on the following link to retrieve your File. The link will expire in 7 days and will be available for 100 number of downloads. Link: http://www.yousendit.com/download/cj98cQpooxN5TA%3D%3D Message from BN208@CAM.AC.UK:

Ok here is the first Nick Cave lecture. Hope it works...Bene Do not reply to this automatically-generated email. If you have any questions, please email us at freesupport@yousendit.com . - ----- File too big for email? Try YouSendIt at http://www.yousendit.com YouSendIt 100 View Street, Suite 201 Mountain View, CA 94041 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:00:51 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Smurf's Looking for a Leader - --Smurf, with a lantern, searching for an honest man or woman who might be interested in leading the world back to sanity ************** Your wish is my command, cher Monsieur. And she holds out her flashlight And she shines it on: THE EMAIL I JUST GOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wooo hooooo! MAYBE IT'S OBAMA! Dear Friend, As you may know, over the last few months I have been thinking hard about my plans for 2008. Running for the presidency is a profound decision - a decision no one should make on the basis of media hype or personal ambition alone - and so before I committed myself and my family to this race, I wanted to be sure that this was right for us and, more importantly, right for the country. I certainly didn't expect to find myself in this position a year ago. But as I've spoken to many of you in my travels across the states these past months; as I've read your emails and read your letters; I've been struck by how hungry we all are for a different kind of politics. So I've spent some time thinking about how I could best advance the cause of change and progress that we so desperately need. The decisions that have been made in Washington these past six years, and the problems that have been ignored, have put our country in a precarious place. Our economy is changing rapidly, and that means profound changes for working people. Many of you have shared with me your stories about skyrocketing health care bills, the pensions you've lost and your struggles to pay for college for your kids. Our continued dependence on oil has put our security and our very planet at risk. And we're still mired in a tragic and costly war that should have never been waged. But challenging as they are, it's not the magnitude of our problems that concerns me the most. It's the smallness of our politics. America's faced big problems before. But today, our leaders in Washington seem incapable of working together in a practical, common sense way. Politics has become so bitter and partisan, so gummed up by money and influence, that we can't tackle the big problems that demand solutions. And that's what we have to change first. We have to change our politics, and come together around our common interests and concerns as Americans. This won't happen by itself. A change in our politics can only come from you; from people across our country who believe there's a better way and are willing to work for it. Years ago, as a community organizer in Chicago, I learned that meaningful change always begins at the grassroots, and that engaged citizens working together can accomplish extraordinary things. So even in the midst of the enormous challenges we face today, I have great faith and hope about the future - because I believe in you. And that's why I wanted to tell you first that I'll be filing papers today to create a presidential exploratory committee. For the next several weeks, I am going to talk with people from around the country, listening and learning more about the challenges we face as a nation, the opportunities that lie before us, and the role that a presidential campaign might play in bringing our country together. And on February 10th, at the end of these decisions and in my home state of Illinois, I'll share my plans with my friends, neighbors and fellow Americans. In the meantime, I want to thank all of you for your time, your suggestions, your encouragement and your prayers. And I look forward to continuing our conversation in the weeks and months to come. Sincerely, U.S. Senator Barack Obama ************* Applause, applause -- a round resounding for him way up here in CT! With excitement and audacious hope, Patti P. NPIMH: We're lookin' for a leader With the great spirit on his side Someone walks among us And I hope he hears the call And maybe it's a woman Or a black man after all _________________________________________________________________ Your Hotmail address already works to sign into Windows Live Messenger! Get it now http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:59:36 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC was Joni anf God and became Nick Cave/now Baez I feel there is a handful of songs where Joan B. gets past that and enters the song so completely that they kind of become one force. (her minimally produced covers of Dave Carter's "The Mountain" and "Til We Have Faces" come to mind. Christ what steamrollers. In some cases though, I agree with Nick's assertion. But she continues to absolutely stun audiences in her concerts...and there's surely more than a pretty voice responsible for that. Em - --- missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > Then he mentioned Joan Baez, and said what a beautiful voice she had, > but that he felt that the songs were somehow subservient to the > voice. > I tend to agree, although I haven't listened to her a lot, for the > same reason. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:22:36 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Joni quoted in legal writings I found this info in the in-flight magazine Spirit on the Southwest flight to L.A> Bob Dylan has been quoted 186 times in legal writings. "Dylan is by far the most quoted artist in judicial opinions," writes Alex Long, professor of law at Oaklahoma City University and auther of a scholarly paper on celebrity citations. California appellate judges can't resist using Dylan's "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows" in rulings over expert testimony. It's practically "boilerplate language," Long notes. Citatation runners up: the Beatles (74), followed by Springsteen (69), Paul Simon (59), Woody Guhtrie (43), the Rolling Stones (39), the Grateful Dead (32), Simon & Garfunkel (30), Joni Mitchell (28), and REM (27). Best Paz (who does NOT need a corner to a reason to pin someone!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:31:26 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: NJC was Joni anf God and became Nick Cave/now Baez Actually, am sure you are right about that Em! What I said doesn't do her justice, I'm sure, even if there is a core of truth in it. I used to own an LP by her where she sang various folk songs and one she had written about Lady Diana. That one in particular sounded of dumb to me. Oh and I can't imagine what Pavarotti-listeners would think about this statement!! Btw the statement was not by Nick Cave but by some singer on the radio whose name I didn't get. Abrazos... Bene On 1/16/07, Em wrote: > I feel there is a handful of songs where Joan B. gets past that and > enters the song so completely that they kind of become one force. > (her minimally produced covers of Dave Carter's "The Mountain" and "Til > We Have Faces" come to mind. > Christ what steamrollers. > In some cases though, I agree with Nick's assertion. > But she continues to absolutely stun audiences in her concerts...and > there's surely more than a pretty voice responsible for that. > Em > > --- missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > > > Then he mentioned Joan Baez, and said what a beautiful voice she had, > > but that he felt that the songs were somehow subservient to the > > voice. > > I tend to agree, although I haven't listened to her a lot, for the > > same reason. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:27:16 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: "Twisted" twisted Greetings all, We were rehearsing "Twisted" and discovered that Joni either a) got the lyrics wrong or b) deliberately changed the lyrics from the Annie Ross version that she covers almost verbatim. "They all laughed at A. Graham Bell, They all laughed at Edison and also at Einstein" are the "correct" lyrics. Joni sings (and it is printed in the C&S liner notes as): "They all laughed at angry young men, They all laughed at Edison and also at Einstein". I downloaded the Annie Ross vocal version and it is admittedly hard to discern what she's singing there, so my guess is Joni transcribed the words of the recording as best she could for her first recorded foray into jazzy stuff. It's wouldn't be the first mis-heard lyric in history after all... Robin maintains that Joni is too smart for that and must have changed them deliberately (ie. above the fallibility of the rest of us), but since the line is supposed to be a list of geniuses, I'm not buying it.. Has this been written about on the list before? Happy New Year all, Dave B. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:48:36 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC was Joni anf God and became Nick Cave/now Baez well some are surely better than others. thats for SURE. thx, btw for the speech download. Might have to check that out later. :) Em - --- missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > Actually, am sure you are right about that Em! What I said doesn't > do > her justice, I'm sure, even if there is a core of truth in it. I used > to own an LP by her where she sang various folk songs and one she had > written about Lady Diana. That one in particular sounded of dumb to > me. > > Oh and I can't imagine what Pavarotti-listeners would think about > this > statement!! > > Btw the statement was not by Nick Cave but by some singer on the > radio > whose name I didn't get. > > Abrazos... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:03:27 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Your favorite lyrics? Blue songs are like tattoos You know I've been to sea before Crown and anchor me Or let me sail away Hey Blue, here is a song for you Ink on a pin Underneath the skin An empty space to fill in A ghost of aviation She was swallowed by the sky Or by the sea like me she had a dream to fly Like Icarus ascending On beautiful foolish arms Amelia it was just a false alarm Maybe I've never really loved I guess that is the truth I've spent my whole life in clouds at icy altitude And looking down on everything I crashed into his arms Amelia it was just a false alarm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:26:56 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: To One Of Our Own (NJC) Okay, my turn to join the upstairs (birthday) choir! Bonne Anniversaire, Richard. May you have no dark cafe days in the year ahead, and lots of Joni joy: a pretty girl in your bathroom, fresh salmon frying (if you like that), ice cream castles (if you're not lactose intolerant) and a bowl of oranges too, lots of laughing and toasting, and you know.... Raising a cup of kindness to you (half *filled* with sparkling water), Patti P. (who got to meet that Texas Tush in a Houston Barangrill -- Hi DB!) Happy Birthday Richard! Hope you have a wonderful time whatever you plan to do. Donna aka The Texas Tush >>>Norma Jean Garza 1/15/2007 2:36 PM >>> Happy Birth-Day! Remember this, Richard That each new day is a kiss Sent from Up Above With an angels' Love And here's to you, Richard May all your dreams and fairy tales come true nj - - --- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: >I would just like to wish Richard Flynn a happy and >wondrous 52nd >birthday. You have contributed so much to this list >and you're a nice >bloke too. I hope the C&S book is all that you hope >it is. > >Your 52nd year will be your finest. > >Mark in Sydney > _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:35:54 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Joni in Sunday Times As I probably talk more about Patti Smith on this list than Joni i thought i would do my bit to spur some more Joni conversation (Monika has been doing some great work in that respect the last week or so. keep it up). The article below was in the Sunday Times at the weekend (i didn't type it, pulled it from jmdl.com) I love the comments. Songs for aging children has an interesting comment. No? Get yis all out there and buy Ys for janey's sake. At least two masterpieces? Well, that's correct i suppose. I can think of at least five. GARRET Down time: Joni Mitchell Dan Cairns [London Sunday Times] January 14, 2007 How many can you say this about: eight great albums in eight years, at least two masterpieces? One of those, 1974s Court and Spark, is among a trio rereleased this month in expanded form. This selection, from 1968 to 1976, captures Joni at her peak, jazz- and folk-tinted melodies soaring in the major, breaking hearts in the minor, lyrics both soothing and skewering. A good half-dozen alternative Top 10s suggest themselves, and clamour for supremacy. 1 The Last Time I Saw Richard. A vocal line that flits like paper in the wind; a lyric with a lethal sting. 2 Free Man in Paris. David Geffen gets dipped in her caustic acidity. 3 My Old Man. A celebration of domestic bliss? The tune drags this classic down darker paths. 4 Chelsea Morning. An early appearance for those fluting, just-out-of-tune harmonies. 5 Marcie. Rare for Mitchell, no ambiguity: a tune as melancholy as the words. 6 In France They Kiss on Main Street. One of her most beguilingly serpentine melodies. 7 Songs to Aging Children Come. Ever wondered what inspires Joanna Newsom? 8 The Same Situation. Pondering love and fidelity on Court and Spark. 9 Blonde in the Bleachers. An intriguing hybrid  lyrics bemoaning rocknroll men, tune off on jazz tangents. 10 Amelia. Amelia Earhart inspires a devastatingly resigned soul-baring. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:39:38 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "Twisted" twisted - --- Dave Blackburn wrote: > Greetings all, > We were rehearsing "Twisted" and discovered that > Joni either a) got > the lyrics wrong or b) deliberately changed the > lyrics from the Annie > Ross version that she covers almost verbatim. > > "They all laughed at A. Graham Bell, > They all laughed at Edison and also at Einstein" > > are the "correct" lyrics. Joni sings (and it is > printed in the C&S > liner notes as): > > "They all laughed at angry young men, > They all laughed at Edison and also at Einstein". > I've also seen the lyrics printed (somewhere but don't remember where) as: They all laughed at Edison, Thomas Alva, and Einstein. Weird, eh? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:21:28 +0000 (UTC) From: "anne@sandstrom.com" Subject: re: 9 word lyrics, MLK (njc) Here are some 9-word lyrics that seem especially appropriate these days: The old pick the wars We die in 'em The best lack conviction Given some time to think That was just a dream some of us had Some get the gravy And some get the gristle And I'm a day late on posting about MLK day, but yesterday was particularly moving for me. I pondered Dr. King's message and hoped that people would take the time to revisit his wisdom and consider how his words are as poignant today as they were in his lifetime. And, Smurf, dearest, I think you'll find some encouragement in Barack Obama's "The Audacity of Hope." (I think that's the second time I've recommended this book, but it's worth a read, for sure.) lots of love, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:00:51 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC was Joni anf God and became Nick Cave - --- missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > Hi Laura and all, > > I've sent the first Nick Cave lecture by Yousendit. > I'll wait until I > get the digest to see if it really works. If it > does, I'll send a > second one tomorrow. > It works! It works! I've downloaded it and started listening and realize I'm going to have to really pay attention to what he's saying because it's not something you can listen to as background noise. From what I hear, I am very impressed by his articulate language. I had never actually heard much of Nick Cave until recently when you and Ron were talking about him. I thought, in fact, that I had heard him and didn't like what I heard, but, as it turns out, I had him mixed up with someone else (and I have no idea now who that someone else might be). So, once again, I can thank members of the jmdl for opening my ears and mind to something new and wonderful. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:20:42 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Joni quoted in legal writings njc - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Paz" > Bob Dylan has been quoted 186 times in legal writings. > "Dylan is by far the most quoted artist in judicial opinions," writes > Alex Long, professor of law at Oaklahoma City University and auther of a > scholarly paper on celebrity citations. California appellate judges can't > resist using Dylan's "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the > wind blows" in rulings over expert testimony. It's practically > "boilerplate language," Long notes. Citatation runners up: the Beatles > (74), followed by Springsteen (69), Paul Simon (59), Woody Guhtrie (43), > the Rolling Stones (39), the Grateful Dead (32), Simon & Garfunkel (30), > Joni Mitchell (28), >and REM (27). Ha- I can just see the judge looking down, saying "Before I sentence you, let me say.....Life...it's bigger.....bigger than you, and you are not me..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:17:51 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: NJC was Joni anf God and became Nick Cave Im glad! Im glad! Recently someone on the list confused him with Nick Drake.... Best Bene On 1/16/07, Catherine McKay wrote: > > --- missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > > > Hi Laura and all, > > > > I've sent the first Nick Cave lecture by Yousendit. > > I'll wait until I > > get the digest to see if it really works. If it > > does, I'll send a > > second one tomorrow. > > > > It works! It works! I've downloaded it and started > listening and realize I'm going to have to really pay > attention to what he's saying because it's not > something you can listen to as background noise. From > what I hear, I am very impressed by his articulate > language. > > I had never actually heard much of Nick Cave until > recently when you and Ron were talking about him. I > thought, in fact, that I had heard him and didn't like > what I heard, but, as it turns out, I had him mixed up > with someone else (and I have no idea now who that > someone else might be). > > So, once again, I can thank members of the jmdl for > opening my ears and mind to something new and > wonderful. > > > Catherine > Toronto > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:28:56 +0000 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: "Twisted" twisted She also changes the lyrics to something else elsewhere in the song but for the life of me I can't remember them!!!! LOL I'm in Brighton on the first leg of my UK tour of 'The Letter' with Jenny Seagrove and Anthony Andrews... ww.kenwright.com to check it out... if anyone is around then please come to see it... lol Jamie On 16/01/07, Catherine McKay wrote: > --- Dave Blackburn wrote: > > > Greetings all, > > We were rehearsing "Twisted" and discovered that > > Joni either a) got > > the lyrics wrong or b) deliberately changed the > > lyrics from the Annie > > Ross version that she covers almost verbatim. > > > > "They all laughed at A. Graham Bell, > > They all laughed at Edison and also at Einstein" > > > > are the "correct" lyrics. Joni sings (and it is > > printed in the C&S > > liner notes as): > > > > "They all laughed at angry young men, > > They all laughed at Edison and also at Einstein". > > > > I've also seen the lyrics printed (somewhere but don't > remember where) as: > They all laughed at Edison, Thomas Alva, and Einstein. > > Weird, eh? > > > Catherine > Toronto > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:34:24 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Crosby and Nash 2007 Tour For your information: Crosby & Nash are pleased to announce pre-sale ticketing for their upcoming 2007 Tour! You can buy tickets to select Crosby & Nash shows before they go on sale to the public through this webpage: www.crosbyandnash.tickets.musictoday.com Crosby & Nash Direct Ticketing allows you to buy pre-sale tickets online for upcoming shows directly from the artist, as an effort to reduce the high surcharges from other online ticket vendors, and to offer a more convenient ticketing option. Pre-sale tickets will be offered for each date of the 2007 Crosby & Nash Tour, with pre-sales taking place for select dates for a limited amount of time each of the next 4-5 weeks. Please stay tuned for upcoming pre-sale ticket announcements as additional dates are made available for pre-sales. *********** _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:35:36 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: "Twisted" twisted Dave Blackburn wrote: << "They all laughed at A. Graham Bell, They all laughed at Edison and also at Einstein" are the "correct" lyrics. Joni sings (and it is printed in the C&S liner notes as): "They all laughed at angry young men, They all laughed at Edison and also at Einstein".>> I, for one, am not surprised that if Joni did indeed mishear the original line, she vastly improved it. After all, what's with "A. Graham Bell," anyway? I have never heard the man called anything but "Alexander Graham Bell." And having the lyrics include "angry young men" rather than just a list of dead inventor-geniuses makes the entire song truer, in my opinion anyway, to the singer's overall point of view. Gotta admire someone whose mondegreens are better that other people's lyrics! - --Smurf . _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:38:01 +0000 From: "Azeem Ali Khan" Subject: Re: Your favorite lyrics? Any song from Hejira: pick a couplet almost at random and you'll get something great. I change from month to month, but currently what springs to mind as supernaturally good is this from the title song: White flags of winter chimneys Wave truce against the moon In the windows of a modern bank From the window of a hotel room. Azeem in London On 1/16/07, Kate Bennett wrote: > > Blue songs are like tattoos > You know I've been to sea before > Crown and anchor me > Or let me sail away > Hey Blue, here is a song for you > Ink on a pin > Underneath the skin > An empty space to fill in > > > A ghost of aviation > She was swallowed by the sky > Or by the sea like me she had a dream to fly > Like Icarus ascending > On beautiful foolish arms > Amelia it was just a false alarm > > Maybe I've never really loved > I guess that is the truth > I've spent my whole life in clouds at icy altitude > And looking down on everything > I crashed into his arms > Amelia it was just a false alarm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:39:57 +0000 From: "Azeem Ali Khan" Subject: Re: Joni quoted in legal writings njc There's always Pigmeat Markham: Here come the judge Here come the judge Everybody know that *I* am the judge! On 1/16/07, Randy Remote wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Paz" > > Bob Dylan has been quoted 186 times in legal writings. > > "Dylan is by far the most quoted artist in judicial opinions," writes > > Alex Long, professor of law at Oaklahoma City University and auther of > a > > scholarly paper on celebrity citations. California appellate judges > can't > > resist using Dylan's "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the > > wind blows" in rulings over expert testimony. It's practically > > "boilerplate language," Long notes. Citatation runners up: the Beatles > > (74), followed by Springsteen (69), Paul Simon (59), Woody Guhtrie > (43), > > the Rolling Stones (39), the Grateful Dead (32), Simon & Garfunkel > (30), > > Joni Mitchell (28), > > >and REM (27). > > Ha- I can just see the judge looking down, saying "Before I sentence you, > let me say.....Life...it's bigger.....bigger than you, and you are not > me..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:26:02 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Your favorite lyrics? It's the unraveling And it undoes all the joy that could be - ---------------------- Funny you mention this lyric because for some reason this is one of the dozen or so lyrics I always sing aloud at random. - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:37:21 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: NJC was Joni anf God and became Nick Cave hi missblux wrote >> I've sent the first Nick Cave lecture by Yousendit. I'll wait until I get >> the digest to see if it really works. If it does, I'll send a second one >> tomorrow. catherine replied > It works! It works! I've downloaded it and started listening and realize > I'm going to have to really pay attention to what he's saying because it's > not something you can listen to as background noise. From what I hear, I > am very impressed by his articulate language. thanks bene - ive downloaded it as well & started listening. i dont think im going to make it all the way through all in one sitting - as catherine says it seems well worth listening closely to. i enjoyed the first song & the lyrics as well. he definitely seems to have a whole lot to say around love, using a lot of the christian imagery " Into my human heart and filled me With love, up to the brim, and killed me, And rebuilt me back anew", & nice healthy dose of cynicism " Well, who could ask much more than that?", & says he wrote the song "as an exercise in flattery designed to win the girl, and it worked, and it didnt" and lets face it "all romantics meet the same fate someday Cynical and drunk and boring someone in some dark cafe" could be quite fascinating all in all......... ron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:45:59 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: NJC was Joni anf God and became Nick Cave hi Catherine wrote > So, once again, I can thank members of the jmdl for opening my ears and > mind to something new and wonderful. two things i love about this list - opening my ears to something ive totally overlooked - being out shopping, & seeing a cd by an artist who sounds familiar for some reason, taking a listen & falling in love. then later realising oh yeah, somebody mentioned her on the list. (........funny, my first instinct was to say "her", then i thought about & was going to say "them" to include the masculine. but that wouldnt have been honest .... so i went with my first instincts) ron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:37:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: The Merm - NJC Hey Smurph, Raise a glass for the birthday of Agnes Zimmermann. Born 1908! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:12:30 +0100 From: Danilo Monno Subject: RE: Your favorite lyrics? And I'd add the whole "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter" (the song) lyrics. Pure poetry. _________________________________________________________________ Prova Live.com: il tuo mondo on line, con notizie, sport, meteo e molto altro ancora. http://www.live.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:06:39 -0500 From: merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: Your favorite lyrics? I love this lyric as well. It is so cinematic I practically hallucinate every time I hear it. Jack - -----Original Message----- From: azeemlondon@googlemail.com To: kate@katebennett.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:38 PM Subject: Re: Your favorite lyrics? Any song from Hejira: pick a couplet almost at random and you'll get something great. I change from month to month, but currently what springs to mind as supernaturally good is this from the title song: White flags of winter chimneys Wave truce against the moon In the windows of a modern bank From the window of a hotel room. Azeem in London On 1/16/07, Kate Bennett wrote: > > Blue songs are like tattoos > You know I've been to sea before > Crown and anchor me > Or let me sail away > Hey Blue, here is a song for you > Ink on a pin > Underneath the skin > An empty space to fill in > > > A ghost of aviation > She was swallowed by the sky > Or by the sea like me she had a dream to fly > Like Icarus ascending > On beautiful foolish arms > Amelia it was just a false alarm > > Maybe I've never really loved > I guess that is the truth > I've spent my whole life in clouds at icy altitude > And looking down on everything > I crashed into his arms > Amelia it was just a false alarm ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:04:25 -0800 From: Subject: Re: Joni in Wikipedia Randy, you lucky lucky getting to be there! Hey, can we add not one but TWO items to Wikipedia?! The NAS (now called Songwriters Guild of America) award to Joni took place in 1996 in L.A. and the 1997 induction into the National Academy of Popular Music/Songwriters Hall of Fame award ceremony took place in New York in 1997. http://www.songwritershalloffame.org/ceremony_main_page.asp?ceremonyId=9 Or are they all connected to the same award? Were you involved with the NAS? A friend was on the board at one time and used to invite me to stuff, but no, I was just too busy working to ever go. Could kick myself now! About Joni not showing up to the after-party - harrumph! Sounds familiar these days, ahem. (oh sour grapes because the Joan backed out of this Thursday's party) Just kidding..... sort of ;-) Kakki > It was the 1996 Lifetime Acheivement Award from the now-defunct > National Academy of Songwriters (NAS). Smokey Robinson (who > did not attend) and Leiber & Stoller also received it that night. > Joni's award was presented by Graham Nash, and she performed > 4 songs that night with Rubin Blades and Darryl Johnson. > http://jmdl.com/events/event.cfm?id=22 > I was there! Joni walked right past me with 2 gentlemen. Tom > Petty presented to Leiber & Stoller, later I stood next to Sally > Kellerman at a champagne reception for Joni (who never showed). > I also snuck in to hear Joni's soundcheck, but they threw me > out, so I sat in the stairwell and listened. > RR ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #17 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------