From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #14 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, January 14 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 014 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Alice Coltrane...RIP ["Lance A. Michel" ] Re: Nice For Free cover [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Michael Brecker succumbs to cancer (joni related news) [Mark-Leon Tho] NJC Michael Brecker [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: Jonis life on youtube... [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: Michael Brecker succumbs to cancer (joni related news) [Catherine McK] Re: Joni in the Wall ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] NJC Beatles stamps [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: Tom Scott/Musicians in general ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Tom Scott/Musicians in general [mags h ] musicians [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Alice Coltrane...RIP [Victor Johnson ] Re: NJC An Inconvenient Truth - for FREE- [Em ] Re: Tom Scott/Musicians in general [Chris Marshall ] Joni's fans [Motitan@aol.com] Re: FW: Web Question - now "up go the flaps" ["mia _" ] Cute Joni mention on NPR this morning [Deb Messling ] Re: Joni's fans [Victor Johnson ] Re: Joni's fans [Michael Flaherty ] Re: Best of 2006 njc [attempt to post, apologies if a repeat] [Norma Jea] Re: Joni's fans [mags h ] Re: NJC Michael Brecker [Norma Jean Garza ] Re: Nice For Free cover (now NJC) [Chris Marshall ] Re: Nice For Free cover (now NJC) [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Alice Coltrane...RIP [Norma Jean Garza ] Re: NJC Michael Brecker [missblux@googlemail.com] RE: Tom Scott (njc) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: NJC Michael Brecker/Carey [Norma Jean Garza ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 03:27:58 -0500 From: "Lance A. Michel" Subject: RE: Alice Coltrane...RIP Mrs. Alice Satchidananda Coltrane has left her mortal body and become the music...May she and John Rest Peaceably and Lovingly together in Eternity... Thank You for gracing us with your presence, your Spirit, and your Music... This world is so much the better for it... A Love Supreme ~~Namaste~~ Peas...Sir Lance ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:02:39 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Nice For Free cover Excellent! This guy has some talent. This version has now replaced The Byrds version in my tribute to Ladies of The Canyon playlist. Mark in Sydney NP Putting The Damage On - Matthew Luke Sandoval ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:22:19 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Michael Brecker succumbs to cancer (joni related news) That's so sad. Does anyone know why Joni called him Jackie Brecker in the Shadows and Light concert? Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:06:40 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC Michael Brecker Hi, I saw Michael Brecker a few years ago at The Cornexchange in Cambridge. It was the kind of concert that lifts you out of your normal state of mind for a few days, so powerful and energetic. My friend and I left the concert flying, it was really outstanding. And he was a very attractive man, handsome and spiritual and humble at the same time it seemed. We paid a ridiculous #5 for the entry. He died young but to create that kind of music you must feel you are making the most of your life. I never knew he had recorded with Joni, that is one ot check out.... Bene Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:53:49 -0800 (PST) From: Norma Jean Garza Subject: Re: Michael Brecker succumbs to cancer (joni related news) He was so young. I saw him in Greenwich Village as I was passing by. Also, saw him and one of his brothers playing a bar in Madrid around 1985. Bye, Michael Brecker! normajean - - --- Brian Gross wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:13:27 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Jonis life on youtube... Hi, and thanks - I'll need to get that dvd, that little segment is really interesting! Bene On 1/14/07, mags h wrote: > hi there bene, > > this little segment is from the woman of heart and mind dvd. highly > recommended for anyone who has even an inkling of interest in all things > joan. a heart wrenching, tender expose within which she sings her joy and > sorrow. oh, how i admire her so for being as open as she is in this film, > and beyond. > > mags~ > > > > > missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > Hi, > > this seems to be taken from a documentary about Joni, I have never > seen any of the docs about her so don't know which one it might be. > It's brief but really interesting if, like me, you are new to all the > trivia: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OziAhoZPQB4 > > And if you want input to the discussion of her beauty we had > recently.. She was so pretty! > > Bene > > > > ________________________________ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:13:35 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Michael Brecker succumbs to cancer (joni related news) - --- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > That's so sad. > > Does anyone know why Joni called him Jackie Brecker > in the Shadows and > Light concert? > > Mark in Sydney > I hear, "Brecky Brecker", but maybe I'm not hearing it right. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:26:37 +0000 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: Joni in the Wall It was intense and magnificent.... all that spell weaving with her hands... beautiful... much Joni Jamie Zooby On 09/01/07, Motitan@aol.com wrote: > I was just wondering what everyone thought of Joni's performance in Roger > Waters' 1990 concert presentation of the Wall (I love Pink Floyd and Roger > Waters in particular--just a random sidenote)? I've had this dvd for some time > now but haven't watched it since around the time I first got it. I rewatched > it a week or so ago after I remembered Joni was in it. So, opinions, > thoughts, comments? > -Monika > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:31:28 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC Beatles stamps Hi Paz, and anyone else who is interested in Beatles stamps. You can buy them online here, they ship to 'other parts of the World' too. http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/shop;jsessionid=E5BNV231ETOGUFB2IGDENZQUHRAYUQ2K?catId=9300091&pageId=shp_prdlist&category=cat41450006&gear=shop I'd be happy to buy them and send them to you, but I'd think it'd be easier for you if you got them this way. I like these stamps, they also show how popular music is revered in this country. It seems to me that the UK is different from the rest of Europe in this respect. I had the same feeling with classical music when I lived in Austria, it somehow makes a difference that this is where the whole thing started. Let me know if you have any trouble getting hold of the stamps! Bene ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:47:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Tom Scott/Musicians in general I love any recording with Bob Joni and James Taylor either singing or playing together. It is as if two giants become one gentle soul. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:34:11 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: RE: Nine word Joni lyric challenge Oh these nights are strong and soft Private Passions She says "I'm leavin' here" but she don't go People like to talk Tongues are waggin' over fences Like the long descent of rain I am drawn I bore her, but I could not raise her Paving over brave little parks Ripping off Indian land Come in Come in from the cold Come in Big yellow feather fan Barker's barking Step right up ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:09:35 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC An Inconvenient Truth - for FREE- Due to generous donors, you can get a free DVD of "An Inconvenient Truth" if you haven't seen it. http://sharethetruth.us/free Bob NP: They Might Be Giants, "Finished With Lies" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:17:46 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: Re: Tom Scott/Musicians in general i agree with that. supporting evidence is found in the shadows and light dvd. another window into all things joan. fantastic. i'm a fan of tom scott too, and if his sound is dated when looking back at the miles of ailes video, well, it was the 70's n'est-ce pas? ;--) anyway,. he was part of the draw when i first heard court and spark. i was familiar with his distinctive sound from his work with the l.a.express. mags~ Merk54@aol.com wrote: For me, hands down, it was Jaco Pastorius. In my opinion, musically, they were made for each other. Listen to the songs from Hejira, or Don Juan's Reckless Daughter and try to imagine them without Jaco. He totally understood her desire to use the bass as part of the melody, and not just a rhythm instrument. Jack ***** ~all the windows of my heart, i open to this day~ ***** - --------------------------------- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:17:56 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: musicians I know it's a vague word, but Jaco had the most INFLUENCE on JM. It goes beyond just "playing with jazz musicians." DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:35:00 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Alice Coltrane...RIP Wow....I've always loved her playing. Hadn't really thought much about her recently but this certainly springs her back into my immediate consciousness. Victor NP: John Coltrane (w/Alice Coltrane, Jimmy Garrison, and Rasheid Ali) Stellar Regions On Jan 14, 2007, at 3:27 AM, Lance A. Michel wrote: > Mrs. Alice Satchidananda Coltrane has left her mortal body and > become the > music...May she and John Rest Peaceably and Lovingly together in > Eternity... > > Thank You for gracing us with your presence, your Spirit, and your > Music... > This world is so much the better for it... > > A Love Supreme > > ~~Namaste~~ > > Peas...Sir Lance ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:07:35 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC An Inconvenient Truth - for FREE- I saw the flick the other night. One of my thoughts was that it needs to be shown for free. Em - --- Bob Muller wrote: > Due to generous donors, you can get a free DVD of "An Inconvenient > Truth" if > you haven't seen it. > > http://sharethetruth.us/free > > Bob > > NP: They Might Be > Giants, "Finished With Lies" > _____________________________________________________________________________ > _______ > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast > with the Yahoo! > Search weather shortcut. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 16:04:44 +0000 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: Tom Scott/Musicians in general On 14 Jan 2007, at 04:33, Merk54@aol.com wrote (ref: Jaco): > He totally understood her desire to use the bass as part > of the melody, and not just a rhythm instrument. That's just bang on, totally sums up my approach to the bass these days due, no doubt, to Jaco's influence on me. It's interesting to note how many people over on the Jaco forums are into playing what Jaco played: I mean trying to nail parts and solos and such. While I can't nail a single thing Jaco ever did (and gave up trying it long ago), I have had a crack at his approach to bass as a lead instrument as demonstrated ably in Joni songs like Hejira and Refuge of the Roads. No surprise that it's harder work. As a bass player, you're traditionally nearly always playing through a song based on the chord structure. Approaching things as a lead or solo instrument means you have to work with the track more, figure out where there's space, figure out what needs to be said in that space, how to say it and how not to take over... I'd never have made the transition from bass as rythmn to bass as rythmn-and-melody and from there to my first foray into bass as melody without the golden duo that are Hejira and DJRD. Blew so preconceptions away between them. - --Chris Marshall chrisAThatstand.org (AIM: Chr15Marshall) "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/stryngs Band website, with downloads, at http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:34:31 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Joni's fans Well from the things I have read (reviews, articles, so forth), it seems as if Joni has fans who simply don't just like her. It seems to go deeper than that. It seems that her fans have an ADMIRATION or adulation for her moreso than what I've seen with other artists. Now I can't say for sure so that is why I bring this up. From your experiences, (if you've seen her in concert and the like) would you deem this to be true? I hope I'm making sense here. It seems to me, you either love her (go above and beyond) or well, hate her (if you're not a fan or don't know her). Does Joni have "casual" fans? It could be that the reviews and things I read just happen to be left by "Joniphiles" since well, a casual fan probably wouldn't take time to review or post, hmm? - -Monika (the one who always comments on all things strange and not important!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:39:35 -0600 From: "mia _" Subject: Re: FW: Web Question - now "up go the flaps" Doug, I do trust you :) Thanks for the info. I didn't know those things were called speed brakes. They sort of look like flappy things to the layperson's eyes. I wonder if Joni was thinking the same thing as me. I say you fly down to her home, pick her up in the plane, and give her a lesson! ;-) Mia < To: ; Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: re: FW: Web Question - now "up go the flaps" Hi Doug, I don't know much about the Empire Hotel, but I can say for sure that the last plane trip I went on, I purposely watched the flaps. And I swear, there were flaps that did go "up" at the moment of descent!! I can't explain it though. Mia - - -----Original Message----- Please help. This is keeping me awake at night. Over the years, I've always assumed that the "Empire Hotel" mentioned in "Raised On Robbery" was the one in Timmins. Turns out that there are "Empire Hotels" in Vancouver, Regina, Thunder Bay, North Bay and New York. Noting the Leafs reference, I guess it would be safe to exclude non-Ontario hotels, but which hotel was she referring to? thanks ;-) BTW, you say you have no contact, but if you ever do- tell her it's " *down* go the flaps, down go the wheels" (Then again, maybe Nazareth got it wrong.... I'm an Air Canada captain, and this has always bugged me....) _________________________________________________________________ The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes is here. Get all the scoop. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline2 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:49:53 -0500 From: "Tanya Wills" Subject: nine word challenge I lurk on this list all the time. My favorite is I'll try to keep myself open up to you. Let us know which one you choose Tanya in nyc Tanya Wills 347-512-9550 tanyawills1@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:49:39 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Cute Joni mention on NPR this morning In a piece celebrating the anniversary of Weekend Edition Sunday, Liane Hansen remembers when Joni Mitchell visited the studio, about the time of the release of Turbulent Indigo, I think. She recalls that Joni had to stand outside the building to smoke, and that all the smokers, reformed smokers and even non-smokers went outside to join her. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6854142 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:04:21 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Joni's fans I wouldn't say that though I agree that Joni's fans certainly admire her deeply. Honestly, for me she is one of several artists I have a deep admiration for. There are many amazing artists and there are many who are not so amazing. Victor On Jan 14, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Motitan@aol.com wrote: > Well from the things I have read (reviews, articles, so forth), it > seems as > if Joni has fans who simply don't just like her. It seems to go > deeper than > that. It seems that her fans have an ADMIRATION or adulation for > her moreso > than what I've seen with other artists. Now I can't say for sure > so that is > why I bring this up. From your experiences, (if you've seen her > in concert > and the like) would you deem this to be true? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:02:48 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Joni's fans From: "Motitan@aol.com" >Well from the things I have read (reviews, articles, so forth), it seems as if Joni has fans who simply don't just like her. It seems to go deeper than that. It seems that her fans have an ADMIRATION or adulation for her moreso than what I've seen with other artists. Now I can't say for sure so that is why I bring this up. From your experiences, (if you've seen her in concert and the like) would you deem this to be true? While I'm sure that there are many casual Joni fans out there--have a few albums, play them once in awhile--I think it's true that her strongest fans love her beyond what some bigger stars will ever get from their audience. Van Morrison once said (paraphrasing) that an artist needs a group of loyal fans to be sustain him (or her), and that in the long run that loyalty will outlast fashion etc. Michael Flaherty _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:54:19 -0800 (PST) From: Norma Jean Garza Subject: Re: Best of 2006 njc [attempt to post, apologies if a repeat] So sorry, Victor! I guess I put you and Vienna as one and the same, in my mind! nj - --- Victor Johnson wrote: > > > It's actually Vienna Teng. > > > Victor > > WP: Saints marching in to the NFC Championship > Game!!! > > > On Jan 13, 2007, at 5:33 PM, Norma Jean Garza wrote: > > > Salaam Alekum Azeem, > > > > Thanks for posting up all this awesome > information. > > Your recommendations are next in line for me, > along > > with Victoria Teng. Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:09:08 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: Re: Joni's fans hi monika, while i'm careful not to place joni mitchell on some pedestal, she is 'the' artist, my desert island artist who speaks my language, whose words come closest to my heart, my reality. she's human, and it is that very element that helps her stand out from the rest. i'm not comparing anyone else in this post, for i know there's a host of other musicians who reach inside and touch me, too. this is joni's time to shine within my words, here, now. perhaps it's the kinship i feel with her as a canadian, now living on the prairie. a landscape which allows me to draw closer to what it might have been like to see and feel some of what we know about her. colours, lines, images come alive for me, right outside my window. endless streams of ice cream castles, clouds, life, from both sides, now. her white flags whoosh from winter chimneys. i see that in my every day that i breathe in an atmosphere of -35 degrees. i'm a part of joni's landscape, i've become one of hearty prairie folk. there 'is' something different about the prairie that produces the most amazing music. joni exemplifies that, to me. it has been said that joni sings the sound track to a life. i feel a deep connection to her words, to the bits of her life that she generously shares. stories within stories. it's the pictures she paints, the layers, the colours, become the melody, the images, feelings. she moves me to the core. it is love, actually ;-) mags~ Motitan@aol.com wrote: Well from the things I have read (reviews, articles, so forth), it seems as if Joni has fans who simply don't just like her. It seems to go deeper than that. It seems that her fans have an ADMIRATION or adulation for her moreso than what I've seen with other artists. Now I can't say for sure so that is why I bring this up. From your experiences, (if you've seen her in concert and the like) would you deem this to be true? I hope I'm making sense here. It seems to me, you either love her (go above and beyond) or well, hate her (if you're not a fan or don't know her). Does Joni have "casual" fans? It could be that the reviews and things I read just happen to be left by "Joniphiles" since well, a casual fan probably wouldn't take time to review or post, hmm? - -Monika (the one who always comments on all things strange and not important!) ***** ~all the windows of my heart, i open to this day~ ***** - --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:23:46 -0800 (PST) From: Norma Jean Garza Subject: Re: NJC Michael Brecker Hi Bene! That's good you wrote about Michael Brecker. I was thinking last night as I played Hevia....Hevia's music is that which you can be totally immersed into, or it can be music that's conducive to pensive recollections, and so I was thinking about the times I saw Michael Brecker and a brother, maybe Walter Becker. I'm not sure who is who and I'm not all too keen on names. It's not fair to saw Michel Brecker at a bar in Madrid. It was in the Village, that I saw him in a smokey bar-coffee house or whatever they're called. In Madrid, he was with his brother. It was in a cultural arts center which could be described as an old tavern-auditorium-coffee-house dinner-playhouse, with no dinner sort of atmosphere. Spain has all these quaint type places which I love. The music was so fine, but I remember feeling a little bored, not because of the Breckers, but because the audience seemed to be more interested in technique it seemed to me. The audience was attentive and grateful, but didn't feel as if they were really listening. I wanted so bad to be on my own, but etiquette and my pal wouldn't take too well to it and thus, my musical spirit dampens. When I want to listen to music, I need to be alone. It's not like I could go off to one corner of solitude to listen to music with that atmosphere and a mean ol' daddy by my side. So, I had to listen to the Breckers music with ear and mind muffs. And the Village bar had energies running amuck! I can't remember if I saw the Brecker Brothers with Joni during the concert with Tom Scott and the LA Express, here in San Antonio. Were the Brecker Brother touring with Joni and Tom Scott and the LA EXpress? When Joni comes on, I forget who's playing what. It's just all one sound with a beautiful voice that courts and sparks the upstairs choir. normajean With the millions of the lost and lonely ones I called out to be released. jm - --- missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > Hi, > > I saw Michael Brecker a few years ago at The > Cornexchange in > Cambridge. It was the kind of concert that lifts you > out of your > normal state of mind for a few days, so powerful and > energetic. My > friend and I left the concert flying, it was really > outstanding. And > he was a very attractive man, handsome and spiritual > and humble at the > same time it seemed. > > We paid a ridiculous #5 for the entry. > > He died young but to create that kind of music you > must feel you are > making the most of your life. > > I never knew he had recorded with Joni, that is one > ot check out.... > > Bene > > > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:53:49 -0800 (PST) > From: Norma Jean Garza > Subject: Re: Michael Brecker succumbs to cancer > (joni related news) > > He was so young. > > I saw him in Greenwich Village as I was passing by. > Also, saw him and one of his brothers playing a bar > in > Madrid around 1985. > > Bye, Michael Brecker! > > normajean > > > - --- Brian Gross wrote: > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:28:34 +0000 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: Nice For Free cover (now NJC) On 14 Jan 2007, at 09:02, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > NP Putting The Damage On - Matthew Luke Sandoval Would that be a Tori Amos cover? Cheers, - --Chris Marshall chrisAThatstand.org (AIM: Chr15Marshall) "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" Band website, with downloads, at http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 05:34:13 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Nice For Free cover (now NJC) Yes it is. He does several Tori Amos songs. Beautifully. Mark in Sydney NP Harry's House - Danilo On 15/01/2007, at 5:28 AM, Chris Marshall wrote: > On 14 Jan 2007, at 09:02, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: >> NP Putting The Damage On - Matthew Luke Sandoval > > Would that be a Tori Amos cover? > > Cheers, > > --Chris Marshall > > chrisAThatstand.org (AIM: Chr15Marshall) > > "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" > Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" > Band website, with downloads, at http://www.stryngs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:28:11 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni's fans Certainly so - there are lots of people that enjoy music (Joni or otherwise) as background, or entertainment and such. And on the other end of the spectrum there are those of us who ask and demand a bit more from artists and for us, there's a strong connection with Joni. In some cases, we went through emotional & relationship struggles that coincided with what we were going through at the time. Joni's songs are the kind that you can go to again and again for strength, understanding and support. When I saw Joni in Atlanta in '98, there was a couple in front of us, I heard them talking about Joni and they said they liked her and especially Court & Spark, but they hadn't heard anything she had done since then. Pretty casual, I'd say. When I told my sister that I had signed on to a Joni Mitchell Discussion List, she immediately said "Oh...I would think that Joni Mitchell things feel things VERY deeply", and that pretty much sums it up. Bob NP: The Tributes, "Both Sides Now" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! 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When Trane got a gig he'd bring four or five drummers, ten or fifteen horns, and pay them out of his pocket so he could keep up with what was happening and provide a showcase for musicians who couldn't be heard in these clubs or concert halls any other way (and they would pass their good music by.) If he heard somebody's baby was sick, he'd give them money to visit. Nobody knew about it unless they were there when it happened. He symbolized change for alot of people. He had come through the whole dope/bebop Charlie Parker number and became very spiritual, always drinking juices and studying all kinds of religion and trying to lead an enlightened life based on love, compassion and kindness And through it all, he held on to being a North Carolina country-loving-laughing person, who could wipe out a sweet potato pie by himself and loved collard greens and all that heavy-duty Southern food. He was studying Buddha sometime near the last gig and found that there was a chant where you could pound your chest and it would change the sound of your voice. He wanted to get that quiver on his horn, and when he couldn't get it, he'd put the horn down, beat on his chest and scream into the microphone. People really thought he had lost his mind by this time. He wasn't even playing anything recognizable to them `with the horn.` Near the end, he was in a rush to get a lot of music out. We'd be in the studio recording at least once a week: duos, trios, stuff with two pianos and drums, with two basses and drums, all different types of recordings. We'd come in the studio, everybody talking, and Trane would start playing the tenor. We wouldn't know the tune, and when we'd stop him, he'd realize he hadn't written any parts for us. He was in such a hurry to finish that he didn't rehearse us. He'd just get the music together at home, pick up the phone to let us know what was happening and meet us at the studio. At that last gig, with incense burning and the place packed, he did something I had never seen him do before--he sat down on the bandstand. I still didn't know he was sick, because when he put his horn in his mouth, there was no faltering; the fire was up full blast. He'd say, "You don't know this, but listen and you'll hear it." Then he was gone and we were right there with him. That afternoon and evening he was sitting there sweating and playing his ass off, working just as hard as everybody else. Algie DeWitt was playing a big bata drum, which was strapped around his neck, and came off the bandstand pissing blood--that's how `hard` he had to play to keep up with Trane! Algie damn nearly killed himself. Trane was happy and optimistic. The band was the way he liked it. He had weaned it down from all those people he he used to invite to play a quintet. The music was where he wanted it to be. It didn't have to be read about or talked about. It was music that would speak to people on a private level, where a person could listen and find what he was looking for in whatever it was he was playing. He wanted to touch people like that, to play music with no given tempo, key center or anything, just `music.`. The audience was wild about it, too.. He was beginning to communicate his conception, and the people were ready to hear what he had to say on his bandstand. He was very satisfied about that last performance. Not long after that, some cat came by and told me that Trane had died. He died from a liver ailment, maybe the result of some of the stuff he had been doing before he cleaned up.It was July the 17th. 1967. Later, I was looking at some pictures from the last tour of Europe and Japan--and I noticed that we'd be looking at something in a music store, or Trane would be talking to some lady, and he'd have his hand on his liver.. The man was in pain when we were on tour and it was a mean tour, too. We played seventeen, eighteen concerts in fifteen days in twelve different cities, every night flying somewhere...no time for anything but the music. Well, Alice had to have the heart of Mary when her man got sick and weak and together they made it and now once again re-united. ~Requiescat in pace, Alice~ Norma Jean - --- Victor Johnson wrote: > Wow....I've always loved her playing. Hadn't really > thought much > about her recently but this certainly springs her > back into my > immediate consciousness. > > Victor > > NP: John Coltrane (w/Alice Coltrane, Jimmy Garrison, > and Rasheid Ali) > Stellar Regions > > > > > On Jan 14, 2007, at 3:27 AM, Lance A. Michel wrote: > > > Mrs. Alice Satchidananda Coltrane has left her > mortal body and > > become the > > music...May she and John Rest Peaceably and > Lovingly together in > > Eternity... > > > > Thank You for gracing us with your presence, your > Spirit, and your > > Music... > > This world is so much the better for it... > > > > A Love Supreme > > > > ~~Namaste~~ > > > > Peas...Sir Lance > ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:04:12 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: NJC Michael Brecker On 1/14/07, Norma Jean Garza wrote: > Hi Bene! Hi Normajean.... That's good you wrote about Michael Brecker. > > I was thinking last night as I played Hevia....Hevia's > music is that which you can be totally immersed into, > or it can be music that's conducive to pensive > recollections, Just listened to some of his music on his myspace. I'll listen some more later on, I think I like it. It sounds related to the traditional music of Brittany which I'm a bit more familiar with. I'm not sure why these two regions have so much in common, culturally (and climatewise, I have camped in both regions and got very wet)? On a somewhat related note - because it's kind of European Traditional and contemporary - http://www.stimmhorn.ch is fairly curious. They jodle and play some weird horn but mix in some kind of feeling that is almost oriental. > and so I was thinking about the times I > saw Michael Brecker and a brother, maybe Walter > Becker. I'm not sure who is who and I'm not all too > keen on names. They very practically go / went under the name The Becker Brothers... : ) > > It's not fair to saw Michel Brecker at a bar in > Madrid. It was in the Village, that I saw him in a > smokey bar-coffee house or whatever they're called. > Greewich Village, or what? > In Madrid, he was with his brother. It was in a > cultural arts center which could be described as an > old tavern-auditorium-coffee-house dinner-playhouse, > with no dinner sort of atmosphere. Spain has all these > quaint type places which I love. > > The music was so fine, but I remember feeling a little > bored, not because of the Breckers, but because the > audience seemed to be more interested in technique it > seemed to me. The audience was attentive and grateful, > but didn't feel as if they were really listening. I know the feeling. It's a bit sad.... And the musicians can tell the difference. I > wanted so bad to be on my own, but etiquette and my > pal wouldn't take too well to it and thus, my musical > spirit dampens. > > When I want to listen to music, I need to be alone. > It's not like I could go off to one corner of solitude > to listen to music with that atmosphere and a mean ol' > daddy by my side. So, I had to listen to the Breckers > music with ear and mind muffs. And the Village bar > had energies running amuck! Well it's only really annoying if the person you are with is bored. Or if you are slightly bored but at least know how to put in a listening effort in spite of it, and the other person doesn't. I saw Brecker with my Japanese friend. When we left the Cornexchange, she was jumping up and down and saying 'Oh Im so happy!', very cute. > > I can't remember if I saw the Brecker Brothers with > Joni during the concert with Tom Scott and the LA > Express, here in San Antonio. Were the Brecker Brother > touring with Joni and Tom Scott and the LA EXpress? I'm sure someone else will answer this one, I still dont know anything about this > When Joni comes on, I forget who's playing what. It's > just all one sound with a beautiful voice that courts > and sparks the upstairs choir. > To be honest, it never used to interest me who played what. The first time I took notice of any musician who was not a lead singer or a soloist in an instrumental band was actually when I heard Wayne Shorter on BSN. (Well and the time I was in love with a drummer!). I dont know why I have this lack of curiosity, I guess I just can't really tell what it is about the music that makes it work so it doesn't matter to me. I'm the same with actors. Bene > normajean > > With the millions of the lost and lonely ones > I called out to be released. jm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:13:21 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Tom Scott (njc) Hi Kakki and a wonderful New Year to you as well! What wonderful wishes! I am a big fan of Tom Scott's music as well. His solo effort "Night Creatures" is one of my favorites! You are so right about the history of many musicians in the 70's including Barry Manillow. I knew him for his Dr. Pepper commercial before I knew him for being a solo artist. If I'm not mistaken, Luther Vandross did a few jingles in his time as well. To me, Tom Scott and the L.A. Express gave Court and Spark a special touch and I picked up on it immediately. I would love to see him live one day. He's on my wish list! Sherelle Kakki wrote: Happy New Year to everyone. May your year be filled with hope, love and light and good parties. I think the reason why Tom Scott's music from the 70s sounds like 70s TV show tunes is that a lot of the local L.A. musicians back then made their real living composing theme songs for TV and movies, including Tom. The locals are still doing the same today. I agree that it does sound a bit dated and wonder if those guys never brought their talents to TV if their music would sound more original and less mediocre in retrospect. Mike Post was the most famous of the TV song composers but Tom was also big in it, too. I've excerpted a list of his credits below. Tom very rarely plays the little clubs here every now and then but every time he gets rave reviews. He is very talented. From http://www.tomscottmusic.com/ Tom Scott is a renowned composer, arranger, producer, musical director and saxophonist. He has twenty-six solo recordings to his credit and for these efforts has earned three Grammy Awards and thirteen Grammy nominations. His other career achievements include composing film scores, among them Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, Uptown Saturday Night, Stir Crazy, Hanky Panky, The Sure Thing, Just One Of The Guys, Soul Man, and Shakes the Clown. His television composing and conducting credits include themes for Family Ties, Starsky & Hutch, Square Pegs, the Academy Awards, the Emmy Awards, the Celebration At Ford's Theater, the People's Choice Awards, Comic Relief, the Carol Burnett Show, the Pat Sajak Show, and background scores for Baretta, Cannon, Barnaby Jones, Streets Of San Francisco, National Geographic Explorer, and numerous T.V. Specials and Network Movies. He has served as Musical Director for Joni Mitchell, George Harrison, Olivia Newton-John, and the GRP All-Star Big Band--and has toured five continents as leader of his own group. He produced two CD's for tenor vocalist Daniel Rodriguez (a.k.a. 'The Singing Policeman') and has conducted over 30 symphony orchestras for Daniel. Kakki (who, speaking of weird email domains, now is with an Australian provider ;-) and who doesn't mind Azeem's multiple posts because he has brilliant musical taste!) _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:49:23 -0800 (PST) From: Norma Jean Garza Subject: Re: NJC Michael Brecker/Carey - --- missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > On 1/14/07, Norma Jean Garza > wrote: > > Hi Bene! > > Hi Normajean.... > > I was thinking last night as I played > Hevia....Hevia's > > music is that which you can be totally immersed > into, > > or it can be music that's conducive to pensive > > recollections, > > Just listened to some of his music on his myspace. > I'll listen some > more later on, I think I > like it. It sounds related to the traditional music > of Brittany which > I'm a bit more familiar with. I'm not sure why these > two regions have > so much in common, culturally (and climatewise, I > have camped in both > regions and got very wet)? > > On a somewhat related note - because it's kind of > European Traditional > and contemporary - http://www.stimmhorn.ch is > fairly curious. They > jodle and play some weird horn but mix in some kind > of feeling that is > almost oriental. Bene, thanks for the links. About Hevia, it's good to have the liner notes because when you see where he's coming from, especially childhood, you understand every note of the song. He comes from all over the world, it seems, especially Spain. There's a song he plays that feels as you're crossing the Strait of Gibraltor...and to me, I can relate because that's when "Carey" became a reality for me in Algeciras and all I could think is, "Is this really happening, my mean ol' daddy?" And it was. The wind was in from Africa as he played soccer with kids on the shore and my feet were full of beach tar and my fingernails were dirty and I did miss my soft, clean cotton sheets and I wanted my Sandlewood and Patchoulli oils. I stayed in a little bungalow with the light cotton curtains fluttering with the breeze as I lay awake in bed, looking out up to the starry night as I played 'Carey' over and over on my walkman and it was really like when every fairy tale comes true. > > It's not fair to say I saw Michel Brecker at a bar in > > Madrid. It was in the Village, that I saw him in a > > smokey bar-coffee house or whatever they're > called. > > > > Greewich Village, or what? Yes. My mean ol' daddy lived there and everywhere else in NYC like Brooklyn, the Bronx and even Harlem...and I'm not kidding. NormaJean Now if you make your pilgrimage I hope you find your grail Be loyal to the ones you leave even if you fail Be chivalrous to strangers you meet along the road As you take that holy ride yourself to know You take that holy ride yourself to know ~Warren Zevon~ I miss him :[ ::: me, with tears ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:49:24 -0800 (PST) From: Norma Jean Garza Subject: Re: NJC Michael Brecker/Carey - --- missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > On 1/14/07, Norma Jean Garza > wrote: > > Hi Bene! > > Hi Normajean.... > > I was thinking last night as I played > Hevia....Hevia's > > music is that which you can be totally immersed > into, > > or it can be music that's conducive to pensive > > recollections, > > Just listened to some of his music on his myspace. > I'll listen some > more later on, I think I > like it. It sounds related to the traditional music > of Brittany which > I'm a bit more familiar with. I'm not sure why these > two regions have > so much in common, culturally (and climatewise, I > have camped in both > regions and got very wet)? > > On a somewhat related note - because it's kind of > European Traditional > and contemporary - http://www.stimmhorn.ch is > fairly curious. They > jodle and play some weird horn but mix in some kind > of feeling that is > almost oriental. Bene, thanks for the links. About Hevia, it's good to have the liner notes because when you see where he's coming from, especially childhood, you understand every note of the song. He comes from all over the world, it seems, especially Spain. There's a song he plays that feels as you're crossing the Strait of Gibraltor...and to me, I can relate because that's when "Carey" became a reality for me in Algeciras and all I could think is, "Is this really happening, my mean ol' daddy?" And it was. The wind was in from Africa as he played soccer with kids on the shore and my feet were full of beach tar and my fingernails were dirty and I did miss my soft, clean cotton sheets and I wanted my Sandlewood and Patchoulli oils. I stayed in a little bungalow with the light cotton curtains fluttering with the breeze as I lay awake in bed, looking out up to the starry night as I played 'Carey' over and over on my walkman and it was really like when every fairy tale comes true. > > It's not fair to say I saw Michel Brecker at a bar in > > Madrid. It was in the Village, that I saw him in a > > smokey bar-coffee house or whatever they're > called. > > > > Greewich Village, or what? Yes. My mean ol' daddy lived there and everywhere else in NYC like Brooklyn, the Bronx and even Harlem...and I'm not kidding. NormaJean Now if you make your pilgrimage I hope you find your grail Be loyal to the ones you leave even if you fail Be chivalrous to strangers you meet along the road As you take that holy ride yourself to know You take that holy ride yourself to know ~Warren Zevon~ I miss him :[ ::: me, with tears ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:28:32 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Michael Brecker succumbs to cancer (joni related news) You are so right Normajean, so right... I will never forget hearing him play his sax solo on Joni's live version of Black Crow for the first time. It was absolutely mindboggling! Along with Jaco Pastorius' electrifying end to the song, I was so hooked! (This is on Shadows and Light) Though I am sad about his passing, I am so grateful to have heard is talent in some way. I wish I could have seen him as you did passing you by. You will always have that memory. Sherelle Norma Jean wrote: He was so young. I saw him in Greenwich Village as I was passing by. Also, saw him and one of his brothers playing a bar in Madrid around 1985. Bye, Michael Brecker! normajean _________________________________________________________________ From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes has it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:31:43 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: NJC Concerts!a partial listing + First and last Kate, that is so cool!!!! It's like "kismet" isn't it? Sherelle From: "Kate Bennett" My coproducer/engineer/player of many instruments on my cd, jack lee, was in that band! I'd never heard of them before I met him so its cool others have! _________________________________________________________________ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmemailtaglinenov06&FORM=WLMTAG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:40:24 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Court & Spark 33&1/3 book Amazon just notified me that they have shipped the 33&1/3 Court & Spark book we were discussing a week or so ago. I read the Highway 61 Revisited book and these are nifty little cultural studies essays( of 150 pages or so). I expect it should be a good book (fingers crossed). In any event it will get here in time for my 52nd birthday this Wednesday-my little gift to myself ;-) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0826417736/ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #14 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------