From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #10 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, January 12 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 010 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- The Three Great Stimulants ["vincenzo mancini" ] Re-Releases - delays ? [joejones@onetel.com] Best of 2006 njc ["Azeem Ali Khan" ] NJC Norwegain / UK band [missblux@googlemail.com] Joni 1970 on BBC 4 [Garret ] Re: njc, United Nations [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Joni 1970 on BBC 4 [Catherine McKay ] Re: Next Joni album to get [Michael Flaherty ] NJC Norwegain / UK band ["Oddmund Kaarevik" ] Re: Next Joni album to get [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Next Joni album to get [Em ] Re: Next Joni album to get [Em ] Re: Joni 1970 on BBC 4 ["Azeem Ali Khan" ] Re: Next Joni album to get ["mike pritchard" ] Best of 2006 njc [second attempt to post, apologies if a repeat] ["Azeem ] Regrets Coyote, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: NJC Norwegain / UK band [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: Joni & Croz/Nash/Stills/Young [Norma Jean Garza ] Bonnie Raitt on VH-1 Classics (NJC) ["Lindsay Moon" ] Re: Joni 1970 on BBC 4 [Doug ] NJC the United Nations ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Regrets Coyote, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Next Joni album to get ["mike pritchard" ] MOA and Barney Miller [Catherine McKay ] Re: Regrets Coyote, njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: MOA and Barney Miller [Norma Jean Garza ] Re: Next Joni album to get [Norma Jean Garza ] Re: MOA and Barney Miller [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: MOA and Barney Miller [Norma Jean Garza ] RE: JMDL Digest V2007 #9 ["Alison J Einerson" ] FW: Web Question ["Les Irvin" ] NJC The Deep Dark Secrets of Jonifest [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC really, just a Q about Joni Covers [Norma Jean Garza ] Re: Joni in 5.1 sound [Jerry Notaro ] Re: NJC really, just a Q about Beatles & Stones [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC really, just a Q about Joni Covers ["Randy Remote" Subject: The Three Great Stimulants I've never seen this GREAT gig before! Vincenzo http://video.google.it/videoplay?docid=-820251128253741981&q=joni - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger Download today it's FREE! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:30:01 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Next Joni album to get >>Which is not to say that I don't recommend MOA - I do, and I enjoy the record a lot, but the LA Express' sound is a bit dated. "Carey" & "Woodstock" especially are a bit 70's lite-jazz fluff.<< Gotta agree with the Bobster on this. Maybe it's just me, but the guitar sound on this always reminds me of the 'Barney Miller' theme tune. Anyone else feel this? I am a 'middle period' fan and personally find the DJRD to Mingus period to be her finest work. mike in bcn np 10,000 maniacs - Campfire Songs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:38:36 +0000 From: joejones@onetel.com Subject: Re-Releases - delays ? Hi, I now see that, according the Spincds.com, the re-releases have been delayed until August, 2007. BTW, yes - Miles of Aisles is (one of) the greatest live albums ever released. Joni's voice is sublime and she sings her heart out. Cheers and Happy New Year to all on the list from the Czech Republic. Joe Joe Jones (joejones@onetel.com) +420 608378729 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:14:21 +0000 From: "Azeem Ali Khan" Subject: Best of 2006 njc Hi folks, I'm a bit late with this, having just moved house and switched ISP (my old pipex account, which is still extant, is getting 80-100 spam emails per day). Moving house three days before Christmas with a 14 month old baby is great, I'd recommend it to anyone... Anyway, my favourites of last year: Ys - Joanna Newsom - head and shoulders above the rest, acquired taste though she undoubtedly is. I've acquired it! The Roads Don't Love You - Gemma Hayes - such a grower: it took 4 or 5 listens before it really sunk in, and I'm now listening to it a lot. The tunes and arrangements are so insidious that I'm only just realising how great the lyrics are. Coles Corner - Richard Hawley - I really can't recommend this man highly enough. When Arctic Monkeys won the Mercury Music Prize, the singer's first words were "someone call 999 [our equivalent of 911], Richard Hawley's been robbed". Just listen to the first song on this wonderful album and I DEFY you not to love it. The Jarvis Cocker Record - like Richard Hawley (and Arctic Monkeys), from Sheffield, and former leader of the sadly defunct Pulp, Jarvis's debut was deservedly well-received, though I doubt it's sold that many. One of the best songwriters around, with his mordant world view plain in titles like I Will Kill Again and [I won't type this in full as somebody may get fired] (C*nts Are Still) Running The World. Richard Hawley plays on this; meanwhile, Jarvis contributed to the next one... Charlotte Gainsbourg - 5.55 - A real turn-up for the books: thirtysomething daughter of French legend and ageless English Rose and wispy singer/actress, Charlotte, a fine actress, suddenly makes a record, and it's a stunner. Some of the most gorgeous, piano-led arrangements to be heard all year, terrific songs, and despite a barely-there voice, she manages to infuse it with some real personality. Amy Winehouse - Back to Black - showed her superb debut was no fluke with a quite brilliant collection of songs, which manage to pastiche 60s style pop-soul (and she's got the vocal chops and panache to carry this off effortlessly) while sounding utterly contemporary. Very few songwriters can write so forensically about sex and sexual jealousy. I think that's it... Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:20:47 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC Norwegain / UK band Here is a little recommendation and asking your opinion.... I heard this band yesterday at the Electroacoustic club in London. They give unsigned bands spots of half an hour. These ones played second-last, and they impressed me quite a lot. They are very young, but seem very confident. Joni is high up on their list of influences... If anyone listens, let me know what you think: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=65763773 One thing that I was missing was really good voices, but then the harmonies were good. I have to add that beside their music what intrigured me was their dress-style. They looked just like a bunch of twelve-year-olds going to a school-party in 1975. When their time to play came, the room filled with young men with full beards and felt-hats, young men with knitted hats, and jeans that had given up the journey somewhere on the lower or middle part of their buttocks. Bad posture and long hair... I copied Oddmund because they are partly Norwegian! Best Bene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:29:27 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Joni 1970 on BBC 4 I have not been reading the digest for the last few days ( i like to store them up and do a mammoth reading session - which possibly explains my sporadic posting habits, by the time i read a thread anything i could say has either been said better than ever i would say it or the thread has become old news on the list). Last night, as a distraction from reading for my driving theory test this weeked, i was flicking through the horrors of digital tv when i came to BBC 4 and there was Joni at a piano. Well, i cried "that's Joni Mitchell" within one second. Dermot laughed and said "how can you tell? she has only plaed two notes?". Poor Dermot, hasn't got a clue:-) He quickly identified the song as My Old Man and said "you see, you didn't think i knew that, did you?". I caught the remaining 20 minutes of this wonderful show (the pink dress, Joni on BBC in 1970 show). I have the show on video somewhere but have not watched it in years. GARRET NP- my own guilt reminding me how many billions are lost each year through employees using email in work, lol ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 08:13:57 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: njc, United Nations In a message dated 1/12/07 2:04:48 AM, andeemac2006@earthlink.net writes: > its only in america that there is any talk watsoever of > pulling out of the United nations only the US., > I mean do you think that the American president rules over every country > in the world. > I don't... but it seems like he has this goal. When I was a member of Concerned Women for America, they were against the UN, which was one of several reasons I decided the group wasn't for me. Their ideas seemed to be based in a fear of losing our American identity. But, in my understandting our American identity includes being a "melting pot" so I didn't understand it. As I got deeper into learning their anti-UN philosophy, it seemed based more in a fear of losing the American way of gaining wealth, capitalism, and a fear of losing their idea of Christianity. I had/have neither of these fears and so it didn't click with me and seemed kind of funny at the time because I was thinking these aren't "concerned women" but more like worry warts. For a country that claims to be a democracy and to have the best interest of other countries in mind, it seems very ironic that we don't want to include other countries in our process of internatonal ongoings but rather talk of pulling out of the UN. Where is the democracy in that? Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 08:33:11 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni 1970 on BBC 4 - --- Garret wrote: > Last night, as a distraction from reading for my > driving theory test > this weeked, i was flicking through the horrors of > digital tv when i > came to BBC 4 and there was Joni at a piano. Well, > i cried "that's > Joni Mitchell" within one second. Dermot laughed > and said "how can > you tell? she has only plaed two notes?". Poor > Dermot, hasn't got a > clue:-) He quickly identified the song as My Old Man > and said "you > see, you didn't think i knew that, did you?". Persistance pays off. He will be one of us! (but that means you'll have to share.) And I don't think I've ever seen the Pink Dress concert, although it is mentioned frequently on list. > GARRET > > NP- my own guilt reminding me how many billions are > lost each year > through employees using email in work, lol > I prefer to think of it as the alternative coffee break, the equivalent to taking a few minutes to stare out the window, to rest your eyes, to clear your mind and to help you concentrate even better at work. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 05:53:31 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Next Joni album to get From: mike pritchard >>Which is not to say that I don't recommend MOA - I do, and I enjoy the record a lot, but the LA Express' sound is a bit dated. "Carey" & "Woodstock" especially are a bit 70's lite-jazz fluff.<< >Gotta agree with the Bobster on this. Maybe it's just me, but the guitar sound on this always reminds me of the 'Barney Miller' theme tune. Anyone else feel this? I never thought "Barney Miller" :), but I don't care much for Tom Scott and band for the reasons you and Bob point out. That said, I'll put in my usual plug for RNH, which I think is the best version of that song, probably because they went for a darker mood. I think Joni's solo performances on MoA are great, even though I tend to prefer the orignals. Michael Flaherty _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:08:11 +0100 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: NJC Norwegain / UK band Oh ! This is funny ! Sometimes a norwegian can feel like I'm living in the centre where it's all happening ! I know the Kambourines. I've seen them in cocert once. I thought they were really good. And moreover - the bandleader - definately the one with the most 70-s style and glasses is from the same island as I come from, Stord. Thanks a lot Bene. I'm looking forward to see and listen to it ! best ! Oddmund On 1/12/07, missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > > Here is a little recommendation and asking your opinion.... > > I heard this band yesterday at the Electroacoustic club in London. > They give unsigned bands spots of half an hour. These ones played > second-last, and they impressed me quite a lot. They are very young, > but seem very confident. Joni is high up on their list of > influences... > > If anyone listens, let me know what you think: > > > http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=65763773 > > One thing that I was missing was really good voices, but then the > harmonies were good. > > I have to add that beside their music what intrigured me was their > dress-style. They looked just like a bunch of twelve-year-olds going > to a school-party in 1975. When their time to play came, the room > filled with young men with full beards and felt-hats, young men with > knitted hats, and jeans that had given up the journey somewhere on the > lower or middle part of their buttocks. Bad posture and long hair... > > I copied Oddmund because they are partly Norwegian! > > Best > > Bene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:26:15 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Next Joni album to get That said, > I'll put in my usual plug for RNH, which I think is the best version of that > song, probably because they went for a darker mood. Couldn't be any finer. As much as I love the original the live version adds to much to the lyrical interpretation. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 06:24:14 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Next Joni album to get Mike, this is scary to me, that a welshman living in Barcelona knows what the Barney Miller theme music is! yikes! :) sometimes those dated bands are so dated they sound "retro" and somehow cool. For instance the band on Laura Nyro at the Bottom Line - VERY 70's guitar and it is so cool. Great band. I remember having somewhat the same feeling with the elec. portions of MOA. Not such an issue for me though, as I only ever listen to the acoustic part. Ain't I mean? em - --- mike pritchard wrote: > > Gotta agree with the Bobster on this. Maybe it's just me, but the > guitar sound > on this always reminds me of the 'Barney Miller' theme tune. Anyone > else feel > this? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 06:32:17 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Next Joni album to get the MOA version was the first version I ever heard, wayyyyyy back and it remains the *real* version, for me as well. em - --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > That said, > > I'll put in my usual plug for RNH, which I think is the best > version of that > > song, probably because they went for a darker mood. > > Couldn't be any finer. As much as I love the original the live > version adds > to much to the lyrical interpretation. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:33:45 +0000 From: "Azeem Ali Khan" Subject: Re: Joni 1970 on BBC 4 > Catherine wrote: > << And I don't think I've ever seen the Pink Dress > concert, although it is mentioned frequently on list.>> > > I had a similar experience to Garret, tuning into it by chance. What > struck me most forcefully was how the songs from Blue were such a leap > forward for her, and how amazing it must have been to hear them for the > first time. Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:40:24 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Next Joni album to get in my quest to upgrade from warped LPs to shiny CDs, I have been successful in most of my joni updating except for the 2 live albums. I have the (reduced) 'Shadows and Light' but have would like to find the full version one day. I have been unable to find a CD of 'MOA' and as my LPs are in storage in Wales (packed in with my Barney Miller videos ;-)) I have to say that I haven't heard Love or Money, Jericho or anything else from that album in years. Talking of 'Love or Money', I really like Ian Shaw's version, and Thierry nailed 'Jericho' in FranceFest 2006. mike in bcn np Willie Smith - Skylark - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Em" To: "Jerry Notaro" ; "Michael Flaherty" ; "mike pritchard" ; "Joni List" Cc: "Bob Muller" Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: Re: Next Joni album to get > the MOA version was the first version I ever heard, wayyyyyy back and > it remains the *real* version, for me as well. > em > > --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > > > That said, > > > I'll put in my usual plug for RNH, which I think is the best > > version of that > > > song, probably because they went for a darker mood. > > > > Couldn't be any finer. As much as I love the original the live > > version adds > > to much to the lyrical interpretation. > > > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:45:48 +0000 From: "Azeem Ali Khan" Subject: Best of 2006 njc [second attempt to post, apologies if a repeat] Hi folks, I'm a bit late with this, having just moved house and switched ISP (my old pipex account, which is still extant, is getting 80-100 spam emails per day). Moving house three days before Christmas with a 14 month old baby is great, I'd recommend it to anyone... Anyway, my favourites of last year: Ys - Joanna Newsom - head and shoulders above the rest, acquired taste though she undoubtedly is. I've acquired it! The Roads Don't Love You - Gemma Hayes - such a grower: it took 4 or 5 listens before it really sunk in, and I'm now listening to it a lot. The tunes and arrangements are so insidious that I'm only just realising how great the lyrics are. Coles Corner - Richard Hawley - I really can't recommend this man highly enough. When Arctic Monkeys won the Mercury Music Prize, the singer's first words were "someone call 999 [our equivalent of 911], Richard Hawley's been robbed". Just listen to the first song on this wonderful album and I DEFY you not to love it. The Jarvis Cocker Record - like Richard Hawley (and Arctic Monkeys), from Sheffield, and former leader of the sadly defunct Pulp, Jarvis's debut was deservedly well-received, though I doubt it's sold that many. One of the best songwriters around, with his mordant world view plain in titles like I Will Kill Again and [I won't type this in full as somebody may get fired] (C*nts Are Still) Running The World. Richard Hawley plays on this; meanwhile, Jarvis contributed to the next one... Charlotte Gainsbourg - 5.55 - A real turn-up for the books: thirtysomething daughter of French legend and ageless English Rose and wispy singer/actress, Charlotte, a fine actress, suddenly makes a record, and it's a stunner. Some of the most gorgeous, piano-led arrangements to be heard all year, terrific songs, and despite a barely-there voice, she manages to infuse it with some real personality. Amy Winehouse - Back to Black - showed her superb debut was no fluke with a quite brilliant collection of songs, which manage to pastiche 60s style pop-soul (and she's got the vocal chops and panache to carry this off effortlessly) while sounding utterly contemporary. Very few songwriters can write so forensically about sex and sexual jealousy. I think that's it... Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:03:12 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Regrets Coyote, njc Coyote Killing Contest Prompts Howls By MATTHEW BROWN AP BAKER, Mont. (Jan. 11) - The barren buttes surrounding this small ranching town will offer scant places for coyotes to hide this weekend as hunters converge for a "calling" contest to see who can shoot the most coyotes. Part predator control, part economic development ploy, the annual event began five years ago in a bid to pique outside interest in Baker via a $6,000 purse funded by entrance fees, local businesses and the Baker Chamber of Commerce and Agriculture. While organizers see success in the event's growth, the increasing popularity of such contests is prompting a backlash from animal rights groups and even some hunters, who contend the events trivialize the sport by turning it into a cash-fueled spectacle. For the coyote, the hunts reflect the lowly place the animal still holds across the American West. Even as a debate rages between state and federal officials over whether its high profile cousin, the gray wolf, should be removed from the endangered species list, the coyote is stuck with the label "varmint", to be killed on sight. Most states have few if any restrictions on killing the animal, said Stephen Price, president of coyoteclub.org, which connects hunters with ranchers hoping to eliminate the animals from their land. In Baker, a town of about 1,700 tucked against the North Dakota border, supporters of this weekend's contest say it will deliver a much-needed jolt to the area's economy, drawing some 180 participants from as far away as Chicago and Seattle. They also say fewer coyotes means fewer livestock killings. "I don't know why God put them on this Earth," said Jerrid Geving, a hunter who organizes the Baker event. "If He put them on this world to give us sport for hunting, maybe. But I'll tell you what, they do a lot of damage to livestock." Despite widespread support for that sentiment, not everyone agrees contest hunts are the answer. Randy Tunby, a sheep rancher in nearby Plevna, Mont., has turned down requests from contest participants to hunt on his land. The results of such hunts, he said, are spotty at best. "I'm not saying it's not a good thing to do; we ourselves call coyotes. But if you have problems with coyotes getting into your livestock, it's going to be haphazard if people coming into the contest get those," Tunby said. Tunby prefers the services of the U.S. Department of Agriculture's predator control program. According to USDA records, its Wildlife Services division shoots, poisons, traps or otherwise destroys about 80,000 coyotes a year on private and public lands nationwide. John Shivik, a research biologist with the services' National Wildlife Research Center, said any effort to reduce livestock damage must specifically target those animals causing problems. Contest hunts might miss the worst offenders, he said. Coyotes caused an estimated $47 million in damage to the cattle industry in 2005, according to the USDA. Sheep losses topped $10 million in 2004. Groups including the Humane Society of the United States and Predator Defense say neither private hunts nor public agency killings offer a real solution because of the coyote's ability to rapidly reproduce. "You kill some coyotes and six months later it's as if you didn't kill any at all. What are they accomplishing other than just being barbaric?" asked Brooks Fahy, executive director of Predator Defense. In Montana, coyotes can be hunted 24 hours a day, 12 months a year, with no limits. That provides out-of-state hunters with ample "trigger time" not available in their home states, said Geving, who already has bagged six coyotes this winter around Baker. Price and others describe a booming interest in coyote hunting, with an estimated 500 "calling contests" nationwide and more added every year. They get their name because hunters howl and make distress calls to mimic prey, attracting coyotes. Many, Price said, are conducted on the sly - invitation-only events meant to avoid the ire of animal rights groups. Baker promotes its event with fliers and on the Internet. Even protesters are welcome, said Karol Zachmann, president of the Baker chamber of commerce. "Actually, that does good for us if they come and meet us and find out we're not all that bad," she said. To some hunters, turning the challenge of coyote hunting into a contest with large sums of money at stake defies long-standing traditions of the sport. Jim Posewitz, a leading voice in the field of hunters' ethics, says that to purists, the contests violate the basic tenet of "fair chase" - the notion that hunting is a private struggle between predator and prey. "I don't think hunting is a contest between human beings," said Posewitz, a biologist who spent 32 years with the Montana wildlife agency before founding the Orion Hunters Institute. "We like to think it's a more meaningful relationship that we have with wildlife than simply viewing them as a competition between people." Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:39:46 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: NJC Norwegain / UK band There is something refreshing about the fact that they are not trying to look like supermodels. But I have to say the guy was anti-sexy to such an extent that it almost hurt... In any case, they gave me a CD with four songs, I'll send them to you as I guess you are itnerested. Bene On 1/12/07, Oddmund Kaarevik wrote: > Oh ! > > This is funny ! > Sometimes a norwegian can feel like I'm living in the centre where it's all > happening ! > I know the Kambourines. I've seen them in cocert once. I thought they were > really good. > And moreover - the bandleader - definately the one with the most 70-s style > and glasses is from the same island as I come from, Stord. > > Thanks a lot Bene. > I'm looking forward to see and listen to it ! > > best ! > Oddmund > > > > > On 1/12/07, missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > > Here is a little recommendation and asking your opinion.... > > > > I heard this band yesterday at the Electroacoustic club in London. > > They give unsigned bands spots of half an hour. These ones played > > second-last, and they impressed me quite a lot. They are very young, > > but seem very confident. Joni is high up on their list of > > influences... > > > > If anyone listens, let me know what you think: > > > > > http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=65763773 > > > > One thing that I was missing was really good voices, but then the > > harmonies were good. > > > > I have to add that beside their music what intrigured me was their > > dress-style. They looked just like a bunch of twelve-year-olds going > > to a school-party in 1975. When their time to play came, the room > > filled with young men with full beards and felt-hats, young men with > > knitted hats, and jeans that had given up the journey somewhere on the > > lower or middle part of their buttocks. Bad posture and long hair... > > > > I copied Oddmund because they are partly Norwegian! > > > > Best > > > > Bene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 08:07:04 -0800 (PST) From: Norma Jean Garza Subject: Re: Joni & Croz/Nash/Stills/Young Hi Monika...I hear you! I suggest buying Joni's 'Taming The Tiger.' Listen to 'Happiness Is The Best Facelift' to understand what I mean concerning David Crosby. So, out of Ringo, Nash or Young, who do you think is cuter? When I was in 7th grade, my best friend and I bought 'Deja Vu' and we'd always ask each other, "Who's cuter, Crosby, Still, Nash, or Young?" We were children in loooove! NormaJean - --- Motitan@aol.com wrote: > I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree. David > Crosby has never done > anything for me (outside of music!) and I don't see > any physical appeal in him > (as he looks today, back in his CSNY days, or even > his short hair Byrds days). > I just don't see it. Now Graham Nash, I could > understand. Tall, thin, > British, very distinguished looking (plus he's got > to be one of the nicest guys > in music! Him and Ringo I'd think!). I could > maybe even understand a very, > very young Stephen Stills (early CSNY days > perhaps--hell we mentioned the > other two so I'll just mention him too). And well > Neil Young, I love, so I'm > biased on that end. > -Monika > ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 08:14:01 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Next Joni album to get From: mike pritchard ink08@hotmail.com >I have the (reduced) 'Shadows and Light' but have would like to find the full version one day. I have been unable to find a CD of 'MOA' and as my LPs are in storage in Wales The full length, 2cd version of S&L is now easily found, Mike. I'm surprised that you haven't been able to find MoA. Both should be on Amazon, if your usual sourses can't get them. Michael Flaherty _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 08:04:09 -0800 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: Bonnie Raitt on VH-1 Classics (NJC) They're airing a very good 1976 show of Bonnie performing on The Old Grey Whistle Test. Check your local listings for VH-1 Classics. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:35:01 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: Joni 1970 on BBC 4 I recently acquired a very good copy of this show on DVD. If anyone wants a copy and will re-offer it and pass it on, send me your address offlist. One problem for us North Americans is that the disc is PAL format and won't play in some DVD players. You might want to check first. It should play in the computer DVD drive. And as they say on TV: "If you act now you'll also receive" the 1983 Wembely show on the same disc. Doug - ---------------------- Programme One: 10 September 1970, BBC Television Studios, London. 01. Introduction 02. Chelsea Morning 03. Cactus Tree 04. My Old Man 05. For Free 06. California 07. Big Yellow Taxi 08. Both Sides, Now Running time: 30:05 Programme Two: 24 April 1983, Wembley Arena, London 01. Introduction 02. Free Man In Paris 03. Song For Sharon 04. God Must Be A Boogie Man 05. Big Yellow Taxi 06. A Case Of You 07. Carey 08. Amelia 09. You're So Square 10. Solid Love 11. Chinese Cafe 12. Woodstock Running time: 53:23 Garret wrote: > I have not been reading the digest for the last few days ( i like to > store them up and do a mammoth reading session - which possibly > explains my sporadic posting habits, by the time i read a thread > anything i could say has either been said better than ever i would say > it or the thread has become old news on the list). > > Last night, as a distraction from reading for my driving theory test > this weeked, i was flicking through the horrors of digital tv when i > came to BBC 4 and there was Joni at a piano. Well, i cried "that's > Joni Mitchell" within one second. Dermot laughed and said "how can > you tell? she has only plaed two notes?". Poor Dermot, hasn't got a > clue:-) He quickly identified the song as My Old Man and said "you > see, you didn't think i knew that, did you?". I caught the remaining > 20 minutes of this wonderful show (the pink dress, Joni on BBC in 1970 > show). I have the show on video somewhere but have not watched it in > years. > GARRET > > NP- my own guilt reminding me how many billions are lost each year > through employees using email in work, lol ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 08:58:41 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: NJC the United Nations However flawed, this body is an attempt at communication... just because our democracy is flawed it doesn't mean we stop trying... human nature, power struggles, corruption are part of any group that I have ever known... & while I'm at it let's put our tax money into building New Orleans rather than Iraq for god's sake. Even if we were there for noble purposes (I don't believe we are), it is like a parent going out to feed & cloth the poor while letting their own children at home starve to death... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:14:14 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Regrets Coyote, njc In a message dated 1/12/07 10:35:51 AM, csonsini1@yahoo.com writes: > Unfortunately, I'll never be able to listen to Coyote, again, without > thinking about my New Year's morning 2007 > Wow... so sad. Sorry to hear this Cecilia. Nature can be so cruel. I wish coyotes and the likes could be vegetarians instead. Love, Laura PS. St. Cecilia is the saint for musicians. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:16:30 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Next Joni album to get Hi Michael, I meant to say that the live albums are not available locally (in Barcelona) and although I could get them from Amazon I prefer to shop locally whenever possible. I'll keep looking. Thanks for the tip. mike np Dummy - Portishead ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Flaherty To: mike pritchard Cc: list Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 5:14 PM Subject: Re: Next Joni album to get From: mike pritchard ink08@hotmail.com >I have the (reduced) 'Shadows and Light' but have would like to find the full version one day. I have been unable to find a CD of 'MOA' and as my LPs are in storage in Wales The full length, 2cd version of S&L is now easily found, Mike. I'm surprised that you haven't been able to find MoA. Both should be on Amazon, if your usual sourses can't get them. Michael Flaherty - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:20:18 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: MOA and Barney Miller In case anyone doesn't know, or can't remember, what the Barney Miller them sounded like, I hope this link works: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/sounds/barneymiller-1.mp3 I never bought MOA until maybe 5-10 yrs ago. My sister had it way back whenever, and I remember hearing it at her place and thinking just how cool it was, but somehow I never got around to buying it for myself. Years later, I do enjoy parts of it but have to agree with those who aren't particularly fond of the Tom Scott arrangements. The most pop-like bridge that keeps coming into my head is the one in "Carey" as done on MOA, which I find pretty annoying, if only for the fact that it just won't get out of my head now. It sounds to me kind of like the music that might play as someone is coming out on stage after being introduced on a talk show of some kind, or an alternative to the Jeopardy "thinking" music, or the kind of stuff they play in supermarkets when they want you to move along and buy stuff. It was probably pretty avant-garde for its day, but I suppose now it's more derriere-garde. I guess what's most noteworthy to me is how much Joni can change a song so that, when you get live recordings (the official releases or bootleg versions), the same song can sound very different. Other artists do this but I think Joni has a particular gift for making something old, new again. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:26:22 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Regrets Coyote, njc - --- LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > Coyote Killing Contest Prompts Howls > > By MATTHEW BROWN > AP > > > BAKER, Mont. (Jan. 11) - The barren buttes > surrounding this small ranching > town will offer scant places for coyotes to hide > this weekend as hunters > converge for a "calling" contest to see who can > shoot the most coyotes. [...] > "I don't know why God put them on this Earth," said > Jerrid Geving, a hunter > who organizes the Baker event. "If He put them on > this world to give us sport > for hunting, maybe. But I'll tell you what, they do > a lot of damage to > livestock." > Never underestimate the capacity of humans to turn the wanton destruction of living creatures into a blood sport. This stuff makes me sick. I guess Jerrid Geving forgets that the coyotes were there before the livestock were. OK, moving right along into the present day, things are different now. Let's say the coyote has had his day, and I don't think so. But, if the coyotes are out of control and need to be culled, then at least do it in a humane and respectful way. Maybe there is a reason why "god" put them on this earth. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:46:10 -0800 (PST) From: Norma Jean Garza Subject: Re: MOA and Barney Miller The bass is what I love from those times of Miles of Ailes. Jaco Pastorius, I assume! Thanks for the link...I miss those musical times...refuge from the disco sounds. I get a stomach ache just thinking fever night, fever night, fever. Maybe I've had to many Starbucks cups of coffee... normajean - --- Catherine McKay wrote: > In case anyone doesn't know, or can't remember, what > the Barney Miller them sounded like, I hope this > link > works: > http://www.sitcomsonline.com/sounds/barneymiller-1.mp3 > ` ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:06:50 -0800 (PST) From: Norma Jean Garza Subject: Re: Next Joni album to get What's even scarier are young Americans in the Anbar province. And Bush wants to send in more and more and more. "I think we should turn the American Marines loose in that country north, east, south, west of Bahgdad and stop that problem!" I'm preachin' love, I am!" ~Dog Eat Dog~ - --- Em wrote: > Mike, this is scary to me, that a welshman living in > Barcelona knows > what the Barney Miller theme music is! > yikes! > :) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:13:38 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: MOA and Barney Miller Max Bennett was the answer we were looking for - but at least you get a home version of the Miles of Aisles game as a consolation prize. Bob NP: The Beatles, "Get Back" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Yes, baseball's been very good to me" *Ry Cooder--Chavez Ravine---this album is the only album, besides Joni, I listened to in 2006. That's all I needed. Now, I'm waiting, not in vain, for Joni once again.. I love Joni, so, so much. Hurry Joni, come back home! I've missed you! nj - --- Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > of > Ailes. Jaco Pastorius, I assume!> > > Max Bennett was the answer we were looking for - but > at least you get a > home version of the Miles of Aisles game as a > consolation prize. > > Bob > > NP: The Beatles, "Get Back" > > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the > person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this > message you > are hereby notified that any use, review, > retransmission, > dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any > action taken > in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you > received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete > the > material from any computer. 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Music, Fun, Raffles, Music, Giveaways, hugs, music, sightseeing, music, and lots of other stuff. Bob NP: Ani, "Used To You" - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:47:34 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: FW: Web Question As usual, please copy Doug (dougcochrane@rogers.com) on any responses - -----Original Message----- Please help. This is keeping me awake at night. Over the years, I've always assumed that the "Empire Hotel" mentioned in "Raised On Robbery" was the one in Timmins. Turns out that there are "Empire Hotels" in Vancouver, Regina, Thunder Bay, North Bay and New York. Noting the Leafs reference, I guess it would be safe to exclude non-Ontario hotels, but which hotel was she referring to? thanks ;-) BTW, you say you have no contact, but if you ever do- tell her it's " *down* go the flaps, down go the wheels" (Then again, maybe Nazareth got it wrong.... I'm an Air Canada captain, and this has always bugged me....) Name: Doug email: dougcochrane@rogers.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:10:10 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: NJC The Deep Dark Secrets of Jonifest Only with Michael Paz...the rest of us sit on a secret where honor is at stake. Bob NP: Led Zeppelin, "Black Mountain Side" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Later, Norma Jean - --- Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > What can I say? I have a pretty good head for > trivia, particularly for > music trivia. It was a nice twist of fate that this > covers project fell > into my lap as it has been a good fit. > > Bob > > NP: Joni, "Love" > > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the > person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this > message you > are hereby notified that any use, review, > retransmission, > dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any > action taken > in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you > received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete > the > material from any computer. 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Jerry > Some remixed 5.1 surround sound Joni tunes for download. > > Give a listen before this site gets shut down! > > http://www.penteosurround.com/soundsamples.htm > > > > Les ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:30:23 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: NJC really, just a Q about Beatles & Stones I would guess '67 - you could do some research and find out when they hit their respective chart peaks. Looks like it's readily available on CDUniverse for $14. "Brian Jones Presents The Pipes Of Pan At Jajouka". Bob NP: Bruce Springsteen, "Tougher Than The Rest" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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It's a tricky one. > > And another trivia question> Do you know if I can get > Brian Jones' Pipes of Pan, or something like that, > which he recorded, all drugged out, before he died? Brian Jones Presents: The Pipes of Pan at Jajouka is in stock on CD from Amazon. Jones may have been drugged out, but he doesn't play on it, it's a field recording he made in Morocco of the local musicians, and was the first release on Rolling Stones records. MMT and Satanic Majesties both came out in Nov. '67. RR ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #10 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------