From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #3 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, January 7 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 003 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- NJC World affairs [Andeemac2006 ] Re: RE : general comments about attending concerts, now joni concert [B] Joni's Smackdown in Indy [Bob Muller ] Re: NJC World affairs ["gene" ] Courting Answers [Wtking59@cs.com] Re: Joni's Smackdown in Indy/Fans/Concerts [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Joni's Smackdown in Indy ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] RE : Joni's Smackdown in Indy [Joseph Palis ] Re: Joni's Smackdown in Indy/Fans/Concerts now NJC ["Cassy" ] Re: Courting Answers [Wtking59@cs.com] RE: Courting Answers ["Les Irvin" ] Unchained Melody njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] RE: Courting Answers ["Les Irvin" ] Re: NJC World affairs ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Courting Answers ["Randy Remote" ] Re: NJC World affairs [Victor Johnson ] Re: Courting Answers [notaro@stpt.usf.edu] Re: Joni's Smackdown in Indy/Fans/Concerts [Bob Muller ] Re: Courting Answers [Bob Muller ] RE: Courting Answers ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: NJC World affairs ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Courting Answers [Wtking59@cs.com] RE: NJC World affairs [Norma Jean Garza ] Re: NJC World affairs [Norma Jean Garza ] Re: Joni's Smackdown in Indy/Fans/Concerts [Norma Jean Garza ] Re: NJC World affairs [Norma Jean Garza ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 01:03:39 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Andeemac2006 Subject: NJC World affairs The terrible thing about Saddam's death is once again, you cant get away from it G W Bush has dropped the USA right in Moral trouble with our allies, and Muslim, people. American Helicopters flew Saddams body from the hanging place.Let there be no doubt about it G W Bush could have stopped this Capital Punishment, as is the new UN president trying to stop two other ,saddam supporters from being hanged, The GOP wanted Saddam dead !! and Politicians in Europe are condeming the EventSaddam could have been flown to the Hague and tried for his crimes and locked up somewhere in Europe and he would have been forgotten about, but Oh no !!! the Christian members of the GOP wanted a hanging !!! and they didnt have the forsight to see that he is now a Martyr, great G W Bush you have added another failure to your dismall Foriegn policy series of mistakes, does anyone no what Condasending Rice does from day to day. Even the Brits in Gordon Brown the next Prime Minister say the whole event was shockingily bad, but once again G W Bush and Fox News sail on saying " we are right and the rest of the world is wrong" amazing really It will interesting to see how the current administration handle this issue with the Plea from the new UN president over the two other potential hangings, and lets not forget the Pope said of Saddams hanging was a case of Murder for Murder and not a christian act in any wayBut even the Pope has it wrong dosnt he according to G W Bush. Really can anyone read any consistancy into the Presidents train of thought from one year to the next. Cant wait for his new Master plan for Iraq next Wednesday ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 06:26:12 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: RE : general comments about attending concerts, now joni concert Hi Joseph - just so's you know, the show you were referring to was her '98 appearance in Indianapolis. I've got the audio - I'll see if I can put it up for you & anyone else who wants to hear it. Bob NP: Elton John, "Meal Ticket" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 07:57:03 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni's Smackdown in Indy OK, here's the audio from the '98 show in Indianapolis, IN - listen to the tracks in this order (as they were performed that night): 1. Facelift - at the end of it, she lets the Dylan fans who were giving her grief get an earful. Ooh, such language! 2. Sex Kills - maybe it's just me, but the outburst at the end of Facelift fuels her righteous anger during Sex Kills, listen especially to the first verse-chorus, it seems to me like she is really charged up. 3. Magdalene Laundries - before the song, Joni gets some love from her fans and she brings the incident to closure. Certainly an unchoreographed moment. Enjoy: http://download.yousendit.com/5082B7DD724D2DB3 Bob NP: Fleetwood Mac, "Goodbye Baby" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 08:31:44 -0800 From: "gene" Subject: Re: NJC World affairs no real proof of this-----but i'm sure there are many world leaders sleeping easier because sadamm is dead. he took many secrets with him that probably could have made for interesting reading for years to come. when did we lose control of our country? gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andeemac2006" To: Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 1:03 AM Subject: NJC World affairs > The terrible thing about Saddam's death is once again, you cant get away > from it G W Bush has dropped the USA right in Moral trouble with our > allies, and Muslim, people. American Helicopters flew Saddams body from > the hanging place.Let there be no doubt about it G W Bush could have > stopped this Capital Punishment, as is the new UN president trying to > stop two other ,saddam supporters from being hanged, The GOP wanted > Saddam dead !! and Politicians in Europe are condeming the EventSaddam > could have been flown to the Hague and tried for his crimes and locked up > somewhere in Europe and he would have been forgotten about, but Oh no !!! > the Christian members of the GOP wanted a hanging !!! and they didnt have > the forsight to see that he is now a Martyr, great G W Bush you have > added another failure to your dismall Foriegn policy series of mistakes, > does anyone no what Condasending Rice does from day to day. Even the > Brits in Gordon Brown the next Prime Minister say the whole event was > shockingily bad, but once again G W Bush and Fox News sail on saying " we > are right and the rest of the world is wrong" amazing really It will > interesting to see how the current administration handle this issue with > the Plea from the new UN president over the two other potential hangings, > and lets not forget the Pope said of Saddams hanging was a case of > Murder for Murder and not a christian act in any wayBut even the Pope > has it wrong dosnt he according to G W Bush. Really can anyone read any > consistancy into the Presidents train of thought from one year to the > next. Cant wait for his new Master plan for Iraq next Wednesday > > !DSPAM:144,45a0b80f239661954936561! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:40:22 EST From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Courting Answers Speaking of Joni books... Has anyone ordered and/or received the new "33 1/3" book on the making of 'Court and Spark' by Sean Nelson? Getting curious, because--according to Amazon.com--it was supposed to (finally!) be released on Dec. 20th. And while I'm at it, does anyone happen to have the original track list (from several years ago) for the forthcoming 'Tribute to JM' disc? Thought I had it in my files, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I'd very much like to know what they've changed...and what is now missing entirely. THANKS-A-BUNCH in advance! XXXOOO, Billy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:45:39 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Smackdown in Indy/Fans/Concerts "1. Facelift - at the end of it, she lets the Dylan fans who were giving her grief get an earful. Ooh, such language!" - -------------------------------------------- You know, it really bothers me when I attend concerts and people are rude. It bothers me even more when they throw something at the stage (I saw CSNY this summer on their Freedom of Speech tour and two people threw bottles and another threw water on the speakers! On the floor speakers!). You ought to have some respect for the musicians up there no matter what. That goes the same for even unknown opening acts. They're working hard for you. You paid to be there so shut up, listen, and pay attention. I can understand Joni's frustrations. It's not very conducive at all in terms of performing when you have people like that. And to be at a show with Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan, well Jesus kill me why don't you? Speaking of shows, does Joni ever regularly tour anymore? When was the last show she played, either as part of a tour or a one night thing? I'm very curious. Thanks! - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:29:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Joni's Smackdown in Indy Bob Muller wrote: > OK, here's the audio from the '98 show in Indianapolis, IN - listen to the > tracks in this order (as they were performed that night): > > 1. Facelift - at > the end of it, she lets the Dylan fans who were giving her grief get an > earful. Ooh, such language! Wow. I'll say. That's our Joni!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:57:55 +0100 (CET) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE : Joni's Smackdown in Indy Wow Bob! Muchas gracias for this clip! I heard what she said at the end of "Facelift" and it gave me some kind of self-righteous rage (with chills to boot) against those hecklers. She really didn't mince words -- "assholes . . . drunken sad f***s". What I want to ask is whose was it at he beginning of "Sex Kills" -- didn't sound like Joni to me. Was that woman's voice one of those hecklers. Would have loved to witness that. And those supportive cheers from her fans before "Magdalene Laundries" gave me chills once more. I could imagine Joni cracking a smile at those all-out support from fans. Thanks a lot, Bob for sharing this. Joseph in CH np: Joni - "Magdalene Laundries" Bob Muller a icrit : OK, here's the audio from the '98 show in Indianapolis, IN - listen to the tracks in this order (as they were performed that night): 1. Facelift - at the end of it, she lets the Dylan fans who were giving her grief get an earful. Ooh, such language! 2. Sex Kills - maybe it's just me, but the outburst at the end of Facelift fuels her righteous anger during Sex Kills, listen especially to the first verse-chorus, it seems to me like she is really charged up. 3. Magdalene Laundries - before the song, Joni gets some love from her fans and she brings the incident to closure. Certainly an unchoreographed moment. Enjoy: http://download.yousendit.com/5082B7DD724D2DB3 Bob NP: Fleetwood Mac, "Goodbye Baby" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com En finir avec le spam? Yahoo! Mail vous offre la meilleure protection possible contre les messages non sollicitis http://mail.yahoo.fr Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:14:01 -0500 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Joni's Smackdown in Indy/Fans/Concerts now NJC From: <<< You know, it really bothers me when I attend concerts and people are rude. >>> I once went to see Dan Hicks Hot Licks as the opening act for a Bob Seger concert in Detroit (strange combination). The audience were so rude to Dan Hicks that when Bob came out he lambasted everyone for their rudeness and would only play the "contractually obligated show" nothing more, no encores he just left the stage. I gained some respect for Bob after that show. <<< It bothers me even more when they throw something at the stage >>> Frank Zappa had beer bottles thrown at him in Detroit several times. It prompted the "litttle pink feet" performance art piece where he came onto the stage late, spotlighting only his pink feet and as the lights went up, he was standing on stage wearing a penis costume, waddled up to the mike and said "Detroit you've just been fucked" and promptly left. Many people had their money refunded for that one. Speaking of strange combinations of acts on the same billing what are some of the oddballs anyone else has seen paired. Another one I saw was the first year Aerosmith toured North America as the opening act for Mott the Hoople. Anyone else? Warmly, Cassy NP: Mercy Mercy Me - Marvin Gaye ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:53:55 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Courting Answers don't know about the book release, but here's the track list... 1. Sufjan Stevens - 'Free Man In Paris' 2. Bjork - 'The Boho Dance' 3. Caetano Veloso - 'Dreamland' 4. Brad Mehldau - 'Don't Interrupt The Sorrow' 5. Cassandra Wilson - 'For The Roses' 6. Prince - 'A Case Of You' 7. Sarah McLachlan - 'Blue' 8. Annie Lennox - 'Ladies Of The Canyon' 9. Emmylou Harris - 'Magdalene Laundries' 10. Elvis Costello - 'Edith And The Kingpin' 11. k.d. Lang - 'Help Me' 12. James Taylor - 'River' rosie in nj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 13:11:22 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: NJC World affairs I beg to differ..but it was just more than the GOP who wanted to see Saddam dead. I think most rational people..once he was apprehended... wanted justice... for him to get his just desserts. I personally.... wanted him to be confined to a life of total solitude..with the kind of silence that one could really hear a pin drop....alone with his demons.. in an eight X six pen.. so he could reflect...and hopefully be haunted for his tyrannical murderous reign. And.... an interesting comment from a retired military commander .....Jack Jacobs..medal of Honor winner....paraphrasing..."actually... what should have done..under normal military procedure ..when telling the enemy to come out..(remember Saddam was hiding in bunker/hole) and they don't...a hand grenade is thrown in there." So I think he was overall given a fair time of it...much more than he gave his own people. "to be understood......listen" Bree > American Helicopters flew Saddams body from >the hanging place.Let there be no doubt about it G W Bush could have >stopped this Capital Punishment, as is the new UN president trying to >stop two other ,saddam supporters from being hanged, The GOP wanted >Saddam dead !! and Politicians in Europe are condeming the EventSaddam >could have been flown to the Hague and tried for his crimes and locked up >somewhere in Europe and he would have been forgotten about, but Oh no !!! >the Christian members of the GOP wanted a hanging !!! and they didnt have >the forsight to see that he is now a Martyr, great G W Bush you have >added another failure to your dismall Foriegn policy series of mistakes, >does anyone no what Condasending Rice does from day to day. _________________________________________________________________ Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN Shopping Sales & Deals http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 13:35:41 EST From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: Courting Answers THANKS, Rose--but I wanted the ORIGINAL track list (from several years ago when the project was first scheduled for release). Would it be somewhere in the archives perhaps? XXXOOO, Billy NP: 'Laurel Canyon' by Jackie DeShannon ==================================== In a message dated 1/7/07 RoseMJoy@aol.com writes: > don't know about the book release, but here's the track list... > > 01. Sufjan Stevens - 'Free Man In Paris' > 02. Bjork - 'The Boho Dance' > 03. Caetano Veloso - 'Dreamland' > 04. Brad Mehldau - 'Don't Interrupt The Sorrow' > 05. Cassandra Wilson - 'For The Roses' > 06. Prince - 'A Case Of You' > 07. Sarah McLachlan - 'Blue' > 08. Annie Lennox - 'Ladies Of The Canyon' > 09. Emmylou Harris - 'Magdalene Laundries' > 10. Elvis Costello - 'Edith And The Kingpin' > 11. k.d. Lang - 'Help Me' > 12. James Taylor - 'River' > > > rosie in nj > ============================== In a message dated 1/7/07 wtking59@cs.com wrote: Speaking of Joni books... Has anyone ordered and/or received the new "33 1/3" book on the making of 'Court and Spark' by Sean Nelson? Getting curious, because--according to Amazon.com--it was supposed to (finally!) be published on Dec. 20th. And while I'm at it, does anyone happen to have the original track list (from several years ago) for the forthcoming 'Tribute to JM' disc? Thought I had it in my files, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I'd very much like to know what they've changed...and what is now missing entirely. THANKS-A-BUNCH in advance! XXXOOO, Billy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:54:45 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: RE: Courting Answers >Would it be somewhere in the archives perhaps? This article reveals most of the titles: http://jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=1392 Les ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 13:55:55 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Unchained Melody njc One of my old time faves....It's been covered by many.....but this guy nails it IMO It's a wav file.....may take a few mins., but worth it _http://www.yousendit.com/download/2VfmJSxUoxN5TA%3D%3D_ (http://www.yousendit.com/download/2VfmJSxUoxN5TA==) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:57:27 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: RE: Courting Answers >Would it be somewhere in the archives perhaps? Sorry, a more complete list is here: http://jonimitchell.com/news/results_date.cfm?id=87 Les ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:03:10 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: NJC World affairs - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andeemac2006" >The GOP wanted > Saddam dead !! ....as soon as possible, before the trial went into uncomfortable areas like the gassing of the Kurds (guess where he got the gas), and the arms and support Reagan and Bush Sr. gave him, along with millions in loans, before, during, and after the crimes for which he was executed. For peons like us, that would be called "accessory to murder". As they say in comedy, "timing is everything". RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 10:54:18 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Courting Answers From: > Has anyone ordered and/or received the new "33 1/3" book on the making of > 'Court and Spark' by Sean Nelson? Getting curious, because--according to > Amazon.com--it was supposed to (finally!) be released on Dec. 20th. Despite Amazon's release date, the book does not appear to be available from any source at this time. (This series of books highlights milestone albums of the rock era, dozens of which have already been published, and seem to be well regarded). RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 14:34:23 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: NJC World affairs On Jan 7, 2007, at 1:11 PM, Bree Mcdonough wrote: > I beg to differ..but it was just more than the GOP who wanted to > see Saddam dead. I think most rational people..once he was > apprehended... wanted justice... for him to get his just desserts. Exactly...it's not like this is the first time in history someone has been executed for heinous crimes. Saddam had every opportunity to change his fate. He made his own bed. It seems to me sometimes that people are consumed by their hatred for the GOP, to such a point that no matter what happens, they find a way to express that hatred. When someone overemphasizes any belief (love, admiration, hate, whatever) to such an extreme, I wonder if they're doing it to convince themselves of something they don't necessarily really believe themselves. In religion, politics, any facet of life. If something should be clear and obvious, why diminish its importance by over exaggerating the point. Stick to the facts. If you have a good case, there shouldn't be a need for embellishment and constant reiteration. Victor NP: Patriots vs. Jets ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 14:51:55 -0500 (EST) From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: Re: Courting Answers Most recent information from Books In Print: Title: Joni Mitchell's Court and Spark Author: Sean Nelson (Author) Publication Date: April 2006 Publisher: Continuum International Publishing Group, Limited Imprint: Burns & Oates Country of Publication: United Kingdom Market: United States ISBN: 0-8264-1773-6 ISBN 13: 978-0-8264-1773-2 EAN: 9780826417732 Item Status: Active Record (Available for Order) Binding Format: Trade Paper Pages: 144 Price: $ 9.95(USD) Retail (Publisher) Also Available Through: Baker & Taylor Books;Bertrams Books;Brodart Company;Copyright Clearance Center, Inc.;Gardners Books Limited;Ingram Book Company;NACSCORP, Incorporated Language: English Bowker Subjects: ROCK MUSIC General Subjects (BISAC): MUSIC / Genres & Styles / Rock LCCN: 2006-029498 LC Class #: ML420.M542N45 2006 Dewey #: 782.42164092 Physical Dimensions (W x L x H): 5 x 7 in. .002 lbs. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:08:31 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni's Smackdown in Indy/Fans/Concerts Her last tour was in 2000, touring behind BSN. The tour concluded with a performance on June 2 in Camden, NJ. Since then she has made one other concert appearance, November 13, 2002 at the Stormy Weather benefit in Los Angeles, CA. And speaking of rude audiences, I went to see a friend of mine perform Friday night, and her Mom (who was sitting right behind us) wouldn't shut up. I thought in beyond belief that a performance would be marred by the performer's own mother. Bob NP: Lynyrd Skynyrd, "I Never Dreamed" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 15:06:02 EST From: SMC1254@aol.com Subject: tribute album I just read that the tribute album will be released on April 10th. Nonesuch - maybe you all already knew this. SMC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 15:08:32 EST From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Fwd: : RLJ and general comments about attending concerts (SJC) I don't think this message went through the first time I sent, so I'm sending it again. Sorry if anyone gets this twice. Jack Return-Path: Received: from FWM-D27 (fwm-d27.webmail.aol.com [205.188.162.3]) by ciaaol-m01.mx.aol.com (v114.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLM014-ec33459efc0ac4; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:31:54 -0500 To: josephpalis@yahoo.fr, joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: : RLJ and general comments about attending concerts (SJC) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:31:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: <449848.62547.qm@web26304.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: merk54@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 22250 Received: from 67.109.218.222 by FWM-D27.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.3) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:31:53 -0500 Message-Id: <8C8FF4994C18246-D78-241B@FWM-D27.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 205.188.162.3 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain I could talk for hours about seeing RLJ in concert. Besides Joni, she is the only other performer to bring tears to my eyes during a performance. In RLJ's case, it was while performing Company at Poplar Creek (near Chicago). By the time she sang "But when I reach across the galaxy, I will miss your company" I was sobbing out loud. What a night that was. Later in the evening, Rickie even pulled me out of the audience to dance with me. Pretty magical stuff. It's funny that you would mention "Something Cool", because her singing that song at Pick-Staiger Hall in Chicago is probably my all time favorite concert moment of all time. (Okay - maybe seeing Joni at Red Rocks would be my ultimate concert moment - but this was pretty freakin' special). It was her final encore of the night, and she was singing "Something Cool" a cappella and about half way through the song, she botched the lyrics, dropped an f-bomb and stopped the song. She apologized and started the song over from the beginning, only this time she completely reinterpreted the song, adding a level of emotion to it that was indescribable. The interpretations were so different, that the person I was with thought they were two different songs. In the hundreds of concerts I've been to in my life, I have never seen anything like it. I could barely move by the time it was over. It's also interesting that the start of this thread dealt with having mostly true fans in the audience as I just attended a RLJ show that seemed to have very few fans in the audience. It was for a Sound Stage taping with Rickie a couple of weeks ago - it should air sometime in late February on your favorite PBS station. It was definitely the weirdest RLJ show I've ever been to (and I've seen some weird ones!). First off, well over half the people in the audience knew little or nothing about Rickie. They were just there because the tickets were free. The audience was nice and polite but for the most part you could tell they weren't really into it. So that was kind of a bummer - it definitely would have been better if the crowd consisted of more real fans. Rickie also seemed a little nervous at first - maybe cause of all the cameras, or maybe because she was doing so much new material, or was dealing with a new band. In any case, she gained momentum as the night went on. The new material had some interesting moments, but I'm not sure how well it's going to be received. More of a rock edge, and all based on Jesus. I'm not sure I totally understand the concept - I think the songs are based on things Jesus might have said or might be thinking or doing today (like there's one where he's driving around heaven in Elvis' Cadillac). Definitely not stuff right out of the Bible. There was a beautiful song about praying that managed to bash tele-evangelists (kind of a pretty version of Tax Free). Rickie had the oddest outfit on - not at all flattering. Entirely different, but it reminded of Joni during her Orchestra concerts and those weird gowns she wore then. Probably my favorite moment from the evening was when Rickie was singing Living It Up by herself at the piano (she opened the show by doing 5 songs along at the piano - very nice). Anyway, there was a camera person about 1 foot ot two from her, and when she the lyric about "c*nt-fingered Louie", I thought the camera man was going to fall off th! e stage. The look on his face was priceless! The whole Sound Stage taping thing was interesting - she did a couple of songs twice to get different takes of them - but it did not have the same feel of a typical RLJ concert. I'll be seeing her again up in Milwaukee in the near future and hopefully that will feel more like a typical show. By the way, her new band was very young, and had some kinks to work out, but they showed some promise. Like Joni, she is a unique artist who definitely follows her own muse and pursues her art more for her own satisfaction with little or no concern about commercial success. Okay - I'll stop babbling now. Sorry - Rickie just brings that out in me. Did I tell you about the time I saw her from the second row, and she was bombed on Jack Daniels and not wearing any panties? Hmmm - I better save that for another time. Jack - -----Original Message----- From: josephpalis@yahoo.fr To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 3:06 PM Subject: RE : RLJ and general comments about attending concerts (SJC) Good thing for you, Stewart, because you have been to a Joni performance while I am just deaming through the noise (apologies to Vienna Teng) about it. That's an interesting comment about Joni and her interaction with her audience. I can't recall who said this but someone in the List a few years ago said that s/he watched a Joni performance where there was a heckler and Joni was pissed by that disturbance and said something to this effect "If you don't want to be here, then get the f*** out." Then she launched in a rather aggressive version of "Sex Kills". Anyone among you said this? Care to repeat that story again? As for RLJ, the feeling I felt seeing her that night in Jnauary last year was just too ineffably affecting -- words can't quite convey it. But when she launched in that one of a kind performance of "Something Cool" that she sang in her "Girl at Her Volcano" album, she brought tears and chills in this adoring fan's eyes and skin. Especially since she forgot the lyrics and was moving in that ragged, almost theatrical way as though wanting to express her pain and humiliation but cannot. Some hairs fell out when she was aggressively gesticulating while singing. She mixed the song's lyrics but atthat time no one cared as we were all moved by that performance and it was deathly still. When she finsihed the song, no one applauded for a long time. Then ovation and I saw some of the most beautiful sights -- grown men and women openly wiping tears away. And I remembered thinking how similar this is to watching a Greek play where the actor's tragedy almost creates an exquisite feeling of catharsis. And although some artists gave me chills while wathing them perform (Marcel Marceau, M. Ward, Nora Aunor), nothing quite comes close to that RLJ moment last year. Joseph np: Jeanne Trevor - Early in the Morning Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com a icrit : _______________________________________________________________________________________________ This is an interesting post because I had the same experience when I saw Ricki Lee Jones in Boston at Night Stage in Cambridge many years ago. Night Stage (now closed) was like a little restaurant / club with tables and chairs seating maybe a few hundred people Max. Anyway - RLJ came out with just her guitar and piano and talked back and forth to the audience for 2 1/2 hours performing an incredible, intimate and unforgettable show. I will never forget that concert as I am a huge fan of hers. I also have had the good fortune of seeing Joni 4 times since the early 70's (1st time was the Court & Spark tour) at the Music Hall in Boston (also now closed). My experience has been that Joni seems distant and rather choreographed in her shows. While I feel very fortunate to have seen her and admire her music and ability so much, I don't know if there is ever much dialogue between Joni and her fans during her performances, Perhaps when she first started out and played small clubs there was but I would be very interested in other people's experiences. 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Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:11:22 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: RE : Joni's Smackdown in Indy No, that would have been someone sitting close to the taper. I got a good laugh out of that as well..."Joni don't take no $hit!" or something to that effect. And they were right. Bob NP: My Morning Jacket, "Wordless Chorus" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 12:21:58 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Courting Answers Some more infor about the original tracklist for the "A Case Of Joni" CD... PM Dawn, Night in the City: Not included in the new project but has previously been released. Annie Lennox, Ladies of the Canyon: Will be included on the new one - has previously been released. Stevie Wonder, Woodstock: Not included on the new one, no previous release that I'm aware of. Janet Jackson, Beat of Black Wings: Not included on the new one, no previous release that I'm aware of. Duncan Sheik, Court and Spark: Not included on the new one, Duncan released this himself in 2006. kd lang, Help Me: Will be included on the new one - no previous release that I'm aware of. We do have the recording from the TNT tribute. Sarah McLachlan, Blue: Will be included on the new one - has previously been released. Elvis Costello, Edith and the Kingpin: Will be included on the new one - no previous release that I'm aware of. Chaka Khan, Hejira: Not included on the new one, no previous release that I'm aware of. Etta James, Amelia: Not included on the new one, no previous release that I'm aware of. Elton John, Free Man In Paris: Not included on the new one, no previous release that I'm aware of. We do have the recording from the TNT tribute. Bjork, Boho Dance: Will be included on the new one - no previous release that I'm aware of. Lindsey Buckingham with Mick Fleetwood, Big Yellow Taxi: Not included on the new one, no previous release that I'm aware of - though there was a 30-second tease available on kazaa at one time. Bob NP: Jethro Tull, "My God" PS: I also have the C&S book on backorder, I hope to get it sometime before I assume room temperature. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 15:21:40 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Courting Answers I keep updating my order from Amazon. The latest info they gave me (original Order Date of February 25, 2006 is: Recipient: Richard Flynn View or change order Items not yet shipped: Delivery estimate: February 28, 2007 * 1 of: Joni Mitchell's Court And Spark (33 1/3) Sold by: Amazon.com - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of notaro@stpt.usf.edu Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 2:52 PM To: Randy Remote Cc: wtking59@cs.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Courting Answers Most recent information from Books In Print: Title: Joni Mitchell's Court and Spark Author: Sean Nelson (Author) Publication Date: April 2006 Publisher: Continuum International Publishing Group, Limited Imprint: Burns & Oates Country of Publication: United Kingdom Market: United States ISBN: 0-8264-1773-6 ISBN 13: 978-0-8264-1773-2 EAN: 9780826417732 Item Status: Active Record (Available for Order) Binding Format: Trade Paper Pages: 144 Price: $ 9.95(USD) Retail (Publisher) Also Available Through: Baker & Taylor Books;Bertrams Books;Brodart Company;Copyright Clearance Center, Inc.;Gardners Books Limited;Ingram Book Company;NACSCORP, Incorporated Language: English Bowker Subjects: ROCK MUSIC General Subjects (BISAC): MUSIC / Genres & Styles / Rock LCCN: 2006-029498 LC Class #: ML420.M542N45 2006 Dewey #: 782.42164092 Physical Dimensions (W x L x H): 5 x 7 in. .002 lbs. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 16:15:28 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: NJC World affairs "The Gop wanted Saddam dead!!" In the end ..pf course...dead..removed..isolated..out of power..shackled....this is no revelation. But they also wanted the rule of law implemented..this is what separates us from most other countries. And since Iraq is trying to form a government..hard as they try..that hopefully would resemble some what like ours...the democracy aspect... his cell phone hanging wasn't quite what they were looking for. I don't really think that is an outlandish premise..is it? Yes...Randy.. the U.S. tried that sacred cow of the left....diplomacy...talk..talk talk...it didn't work. Sometimes....it takes action. Arming Hussein: Again...so Iraq wasn't overpowered by it's neighbor Iran...the U.S. thought that these two countries would do better if they were on even playing grounds. I presume to try and keep what little stability there is that part of the world. To nullify each other. The United States intention was a good one...we must sometimes look at peoples intention...and although in the end it failed ...the intention came from one of high ideals. And probably low expectations? Are you saying if a person goes into a gun shop and buys a gun..all legal now..but murders someone with that gun...the gun seller is an accessory? Or if I kill someone while driving drunk in my Pontiac. GM is an accessory? I suppose we didn't know how mad Hussein was...a despot is one thing..but a mad despot is a whole other thing ..so we talked.....shook hands..armed ...funded......and as they say...the rest is history. Bree >....as soon as possible, before the trial went into uncomfortable >areas like the gassing of the Kurds (guess where he got the gas), and the >arms and support Reagan and Bush Sr. gave him, along >with millions in loans, before, during, and after the crimes for which he >was executed. For peons like us, that would be called >"accessory to murder". As they say in comedy, "timing is >everything". RR _________________________________________________________________ From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes has it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:27:37 EST From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: Courting Answers THANKS AGAIN, Richard (...and Jerry, and Randy, and Rose) So, it looks like we'll all have to be patient at LEAST a little while longer for the '33 1/3: Joni Mitchell's Court & Spark' book to appear (Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr). Let's just hope it doesn't take another 7 years (like the forthcoming tribute disc, which was originally scheduled for release over 6 years ago!). And, EUREKA--I finally located the original tribute's track listing in the archives. ;-) Now missing from the lineup are the following 8 tracks: PM Dawn ("Night In the City"), Stevie Wonder ("Woodstock"), Janet Jackson ("The Beat of Black Wings"), Duncan Sheik ("Court and Spark"), Chaka Khan ("Hejira"), Etta James ("Amelia"), Elton John ("Free Man In Paris") and Lindsey Buckingham w/ Mick Fleetwood ("Big Yellow Taxi"). These have apparently been replaced with the following 7 tracks: Sufjan Stevens ("Free Man In Paris"), Caetano Veloso ("Dreamland"), Brad Mehldau ("Don't Interrupt the Sorrow"), Cassandra Wilson ("For the Roses"), Prince ("A Case of U"), Emmylou Harris ("The Magdalene Laundries") and James Taylor ("River"). 5 tracks remain the same: Bjork ("The Boho Dance"), Sarah McLachlan ("Blue"), Annie Lennox ("Ladies of the Canyon"), Elvis Costello ("Edith and the Kingpin") and k.d. lang ("Help Me"). WHEW !!! :-D XXXOOO, Billy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 15:03:06 -0800 (PST) From: Norma Jean Garza Subject: RE: NJC World affairs Bree, I've observed here at the JMDL, how tolerant folks really are. I've been on several mailing lists, such as Carlos Santana's official website, now all obliterated and a Neil Young mailing list...and I'm telling you, there were some very intolerant, horrible minded humans, who were few, but they were there with awful energies who never, ever begged to differ. If we're here because of Joni, it's more than being dedicated fans...it's her compassion and love and justice for all mankind and earth. As far as I can read into this Saddam Hussien hanging thread, is not about him personally, but simply the barbaric methods of capital punishmenet, esp. the manner of which it conducted and recorded. I'm ground to the present, but when I saw that hanging, I had to keep asking myself if we were really in the 21st century or are we back to the Dark Ages. Whose to say, "We are right and they are wrong?" Both sides now, Bree. nj - --- Bree Mcdonough wrote: > I beg to differ..but it was just more than the GOP > who wanted to see Saddam > dead. I think most rational people..once he was > apprehended... wanted > justice... for him to get his just desserts. I > personally.... wanted him > to be confined to a life of total solitude..with the > kind of silence that > one could really hear a pin drop....alone with his > demons.. in an eight X > six pen.. so he could reflect...and hopefully be > haunted for his tyrannical > murderous reign. > > > And.... an interesting comment from a retired > military commander .....Jack > Jacobs..medal of Honor > winner....paraphrasing..."actually... what should > have done..under normal military procedure ..when > telling the enemy to come > out..(remember Saddam was hiding in bunker/hole) and > they don't...a hand > grenade is thrown in there." So I think he was > overall given a fair > time of it...much more than he gave his own people. > > "to be understood......listen" > > > Bree > > > > > American Helicopters flew Saddams body from > >the hanging place.Let there be no doubt about it G > W Bush could have > >stopped this Capital Punishment, as is the new UN > president trying to > >stop two other ,saddam supporters from being > hanged, The GOP wanted > >Saddam dead !! and Politicians in Europe are > condeming the EventSaddam > >could have been flown to the Hague and tried for > his crimes and locked up > >somewhere in Europe and he would have been > forgotten about, but Oh no !!! > >the Christian members of the GOP wanted a hanging > !!! and they didnt have > >the forsight to see that he is now a Martyr, great > G W Bush you have > >added another failure to your dismall Foriegn > policy series of mistakes, > >does anyone no what Condasending Rice does from day > to day. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one > place! MSN Shopping > Sales & Deals > http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 15:06:08 -0800 (PST) From: Norma Jean Garza Subject: Re: NJC World affairs Hello Gene. Please just give me the names of leaders who are cahoots in this hanging! Maybe just a handful of the bush-el. nj - --- gene wrote: > no real proof of this-----but i'm sure there are > many world leaders sleeping > easier because sadamm is dead. he took many secrets > with him that probably > could have made for interesting reading for years to > come. > when did we lose control of our country? > gene > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andeemac2006" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 1:03 AM > Subject: NJC World affairs > > > > The terrible thing about Saddam's death is once > again, you cant get away > > from it G W Bush has dropped the USA right in > Moral trouble with our > > allies, and Muslim, people. American Helicopters > flew Saddams body from > > the hanging place.Let there be no doubt about it G > W Bush could have > > stopped this Capital Punishment, as is the new UN > president trying to > > stop two other ,saddam supporters from being > hanged, The GOP wanted > > Saddam dead !! and Politicians in Europe are > condeming the EventSaddam > > could have been flown to the Hague and tried for > his crimes and locked up > > somewhere in Europe and he would have been > forgotten about, but Oh no !!! > > the Christian members of the GOP wanted a hanging > !!! and they didnt have > > the forsight to see that he is now a Martyr, great > G W Bush you have > > added another failure to your dismall Foriegn > policy series of mistakes, > > does anyone no what Condasending Rice does from > day to day. Even the > > Brits in Gordon Brown the next Prime Minister say > the whole event was > > shockingily bad, but once again G W Bush and Fox > News sail on saying " we > > are right and the rest of the world is wrong" > amazing really It will > > interesting to see how the current administration > handle this issue with > > the Plea from the new UN president over the two > other potential hangings, > > and lets not forget the Pope said of Saddams > hanging was a case of > > Murder for Murder and not a christian act in any > wayBut even the Pope > > has it wrong dosnt he according to G W Bush. > Really can anyone read any > > consistancy into the Presidents train of thought > from one year to the > > next. Cant wait for his new Master plan for Iraq > next Wednesday > > > > !DSPAM:144,45a0b80f239661954936561! Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 15:17:16 -0800 (PST) From: Norma Jean Garza Subject: Re: Joni's Smackdown in Indy/Fans/Concerts When Joni's played here in San Antonio, we were all enraptured... Even after one of her concerts about 1974, one of the mainstrean top 40's radio station, which never played Joni, said, "you could hear a pin drop throughout the whole concert." I weep, just thinking back because she's so beautiful and elegant when she plays and sings. More precious than Jenny Lind. Norma Jean - --- Motitan@aol.com wrote: > You know, it really bothers me when I attend > concerts and people are rude. > It bothers me even more when they throw something at > the stage (I saw CSNY > this summer on their Freedom of Speech tour and two > people threw bottles and > another threw water on the speakers! On the floor > speakers!). You ought to > have some respect for the musicians up there no > matter what. That goes the > same for even unknown opening acts. They're > working hard for you. You paid to > be there so shut up, listen, and pay attention. I > can understand Joni's > frustrations. It's not very conducive at all in > terms of performing when you > have people like that. And to be at a show with > Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan, > well Jesus kill me why don't you? Speaking of > shows, does Joni ever regularly > tour anymore? When was the last show she played, > either as part of a tour > or a one night thing? I'm very curious. Thanks! > -Monika Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 18:22:14 -0500 (EST) From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: Re: NJC World affairs > Yes...Randy.. the U.S. tried that sacred cow of the > left....diplomacy...talk..talk talk...it didn't work. > Sometimes....it takes action. > I see. Hillary and Kerry are now members of the right because they too voted for the war? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:00:00 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: NJC World affairs From: "Bree Mcdonough" > Are you saying if a person goes into a gun shop and buys a gun..all legal > now..but murders someone with that gun...the gun seller is an accessory? No, I'm saying that if you or I supplied a gun to someone who we knew for a fact was a serial killer, we would indeed be an accessory, rightly so. > I suppose we didn't know how mad Hussein was... Didn't know? Be serious. As I said: before, during and after the crimes that he was just executed for. Of course they knew. When he stopped dancing to our tune, he fell out of favor, same old story. You have to remember that weapons dealers and their representatives in the gov't have little regard for the character of their customers. US history is rife with examples, from Noriega to Pinochet. I am not shedding any tears because Hussein swung. I'm just asking for equal treatment for all war criminals. Kissinger surely killed more souls than Hussein ever dreamed of. Professed intentions are fine, but actions speak louder. From: > I see. Hillary and Kerry are now members of the right because they too > voted for the war? Pretty much. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:27:19 -0800 (PST) From: Norma Jean Garza Subject: Re: NJC World affairs Don' forget the Shah of Iran and Ferdinand Marcos from the Phillipines. After they were crowned stupid puppets, property of the United States, and used and screwed and told to use and screw their own people, like blow up dolls used for f***ing, they were impaled with a cancerous needle nosed pole and and discarded. nj > Didn't know? Be serious. As I said: before, during > and after the > crimes that he was just executed for. Of course they > knew. When > he stopped dancing to our tune, he fell out of > favor, same old story. > You have to remember that weapons dealers and their > representatives > in the gov't have little regard for the character of > their customers. > US history is rife with examples, from Noriega to > Pinochet. > I am not shedding any tears because Hussein swung. > I'm just asking > for equal treatment for all war criminals. Kissinger > surely killed more > souls than Hussein ever dreamed of. Professed > intentions are fine, but > actions speak louder. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #3 *************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------