From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #485 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, December 21 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 485 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Guru books- a reminder that you're just not good enough? ["Jamie's Bo] Re: digital recording device, njc [Jerry Notaro ] Re: digital recording device, njc [Catherine McKay ] NJC Re: Joni and Herbie and Bobby and.. on YOuTUbe [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Vintage Live James Taylor [NJC] ["Richard Goldman" ] Re: njc, Carly news [Smurf ] njc, Peoples Political Parties ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: the missing digests AND ARCHIVES- njc ["Lori Fye" ] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20RE=3A=20the=20missing=20digests=20=20AND =20ARCHIVES=2D=20njc?= ["=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: Re: Guru books- a reminder that you're just not good enough? Hmmm interesting.... This was written in the period when Joni was going through her depression or breakdown after Blue was written and she took herself away to the Canadian backwoods and made herself a stone-cut house and piled herself up with books by Jung, Neitzche other beliefs like the I-Ching, Buddhism and all the rest... I think the line was in reaction to 'overload' when certainly you read too much of these things they basically say the same thing that you're on the path to enlightenment or on the way to be coming a 'better' you, implying that you're starting off from a point that you're in a bda place, that you are not good enough for these people... Just a thought anyway J On 19/12/06, anon anon wrote: > I wonder why Joni had this attitude... It seems to me that the general > message of eastern religions,and gurus, is self acceptance, that we ARE good > enough, that we are perfect just the way we are... > > _________________________________________________________________ > Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. Who will win? > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://davevscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001 > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:52:36 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: digital recording device, njc > Coincidentially Catherine, I just got a Mac about a month ago and am very > pleased with it. I've always had PC's in the past so I'm still in the > learning > curve phase with the Mac. Welcome to the Real World! Jerry, Mac user and lover for 21 years ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:18:13 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: digital recording device, njc - --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > > Coincidentially Catherine, I just got a Mac about > a month ago and am very > > pleased with it. I've always had PC's in the > past so I'm still in the > > learning > > curve phase with the Mac. > > Welcome to the Real World! > > Jerry, Mac user and lover for 21 years > Don't you love the TV commercials with PC and Mac talking to one another? PC guy is just SO the way the PC nerds here at work act - loveable but nerdy and without any concept of what "artistic" means - and they all have desks that are just WAY too neat! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:33:56 -0500 From: "Cassy" Subject: Rolling Thunder again... Mark asked that someone reload the Rolling Thunder Review as the original upload was no longer valid. In the spirit of Christmas present, I uploaded them again for those who weren't able to get them the first time around. CD1: http://www.yousendit.com/download/y2fLkwOM4oB5TA%3D%3D CD2: http://www.yousendit.com/download/y2ddilyabWx5TA%3D%3D Mark did a really nice job with this. Warmly, Cassy NP: Burt Bacharach & Elvis Costello - What the World Needs Now (is love sweet love) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:08:31 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: NJC Re: Joni and Herbie and Bobby and.. on YOuTUbe I guess it's the same derivation that you'd use when one is "bobbing" in the ocean, bouncing up and down with the swelling of the water. I've never thought of my name as very dynamic though. One good thing about it - at least Smurf can't make fun of it. Hoppe NP: Drive-By Truckers, "Wednesday" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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JT - Riding On A Railroad, Live, 1971, Fillmore East ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:22:01 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: RE: the missing digests AND ARCHIVES- njc Regarding the JMDL archives, Lesli wrote: >i too could have sworn that >it was a link on the new jmdl The searchable archives are still there and yes, they were slaved over for many months. Every digest ever produced by the JMDL (except for 3 we are missing from 1998) can be searched. To protect the privacy of members, the archive is not searchable by the general public. First, one has to register and log in at the JMDL site. Then and only then, the archives magically appear on the search page. Les NP: Glenn Gould, Goldberg variation #9 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:57:01 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Carly news Bonjour Dear Ones: Did anyone catch the CBS Sunday Morning Show and the Carly snippet? It was only a few seconds -- a tease -- but now I just found the whole thing. ("I can't believe I found the whole thing!" ) From Carlysimon.com: "Song For Art Buchwald Carly's dear friend, Art Buchwald, was featured on CBS Sunday Morning recently. During the show, they played a snippet of a song that Carly has written for him. We've received a lot of mail from people that wished they could hear the entire song, so Carly has kindly made it available. The song is entitled Too Soon To Say Goodbye - which matches the title of Art's recently released memoir." You can hear it by going here: http://carlysimon.com/news/news.shtml There's some French and German in it, too, for us language lovers ("auf Wiedersehen" and "au revoir"). Right below the Buchwald paragraph it is announced that she is going to be on Oprah on January 16th. Mark your red ribbon runner calendar, Cassysweet! I know everyone is very busy these day, but if you like Carly and you only have time to click on just one link today, please go to this one and watch her 8 minute and 15 second video. It is EXQUISITE, I promise you. Well, at least it is for me. The new CD, Carly says, is "lulling". http://carlysimon.com/music/classics/IntoWhite.shtml And just a little more Carly: one of my best buds in the workplace came by yesterday to say Feliz Navidad and adios, as he was on his way home to Martha's Vineyard. He says it's a sure bet that he will run into Carly, most likely coming out of the "Bunch of Grapes" bookstore or walking through Vineyard Haven. Ha! If I had my way I'd just wander through the Vineyard Haven, going cafe to cabaret...... Love, Patti P., trying to get Bush's voice out of my head (he just had a press conference to tell us it's a tough job in Iraq and we appreesheeeate our troops but but we can't give up until we accomplish our misssshhhhun and he can't answer any dangerous hypothetical questions now, but he will tell us later what HE decides the new schtrageee should be. (I can't take it, I can't seem to believe it....) _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:39:51 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: njc, Carly news Patti sez: << If I had my way I'd just wander through the Vineyard Haven, going cafe to cabaret...... >> Good luck finding cabarets in Vineyard Haven, Mlle Poupee! It's a dry town. I will never forget running into Carly and James on the Vineyard circa 1974 as they coming out of Alley's, a general store. They were beautiful -- but hey, it was 1974; even I was beautiful. - --Smurf . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:54:04 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Peoples Political Parties Hola, Joniamigos: A "Power to the People" Peoples Party! I'm excited by the email I received and just had to share! I've changed some of the names and details to protect us from the everyday googlers and stalkers and the intelligence agencies and the Sunset Pigs and the Brain Police and you know...... (maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's sensitivity.....but VP Dick *did* call us "the kind of people who sympathize with the terrorists", you know?) ************* Dear Patti, Imagine all the people . . . Coming together as the Dumont community one more time. The Dumont campaign did some amazing things - here in Connecticut and around the country. You are invited to come celebrate the community we created with Jed and Fannie. DATE: a starry night again, man, in 2007 TIME: (does Joni ever mention a specific time in any of her songs? hmmmmm......) PLACE: Some Barangrill corner of Sisotowbell Lane and Main Street California or Canada or a Grecian Isle, but definitely NOT in Vineyard Haven RSVP ON LINE: http://www.yadayadayada Please note: Bar is, well, a bar. As such, the management would like all people under 21 to attend with either a parent or responsible adult. We are happy to help pair people up if needed. If you are under age and need an adult, or are an adult willing to pair with a younger person, please send an e-mail to staff@ Thanks - hope to see everyone there! Jed ********* I'll be there will bells on. Jingle all the way! And did you notice how Jed has OLQD, too? (What does that one mean again, Catherine?) Peace, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Experience the magic of the holidays. Talk to Santa on Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0080000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/santabot/default.aspx?locale=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:59:49 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: the missing digests AND ARCHIVES- njc Lesli wrote: > yes lori it's's true some archives are there(thats where they were originally stored). Not to be argumentative, Lesli, but more than "some" archives are stored at http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Every digest since April 28, 1998 is stored there, including this morning's digest. For those who don't want to wade through all the N*JC posts, the "only Joni" digests are stored here: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni/ > But the big projrct les dreamed up was a searchable database that even had the > 97 archives on it. Many of us especially cassie and les slaved long and hard on > this project. I'm very grateful for all the work that was done to get the digests into the searchable database, particularly since the digests prior to April 28, 1998 are not on the smoe server. I'm not advocating one source over another, but the smoe links are useful when you just want to grab the latest digest, or a recent one that you haven't received. As for the Archives on jmdl.com ... > i too could have sworn that it was a link on the new jmdl I still don't know how to locate that link. Help? Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:06:14 -0800 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20RE=3A=20the=20missing=20digests=20=20AND =20ARCHIVES=2D=20njc?= thanks! tried it, got em. i think that search engine is cool to look up bootlegs and song info. - ---------- Original Message ------------- Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:22:01 -0800 From: Les Irvin To: Subject: RE: the missing digests AND ARCHIVES- njc >Regarding the JMDL archives, Lesli wrote: >>i too could have sworn that >>it was a link on the new jmdl > >The searchable archives are still there and yes, they were slaved over for >many months. Every digest ever produced by the JMDL (except for 3 we are >missing from 1998) can be searched. > >To protect the privacy of members, the archive is not searchable by the >general public. First, one has to register and log in at the JMDL site. >Then and only then, the archives magically appear on the search page. > >Les > >NP: Glenn Gould, Goldberg variation #9 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:00:30 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: RE: the missing digests AND ARCHIVES- njc >I'm not advocating one source over another, >but the smoe links are useful >when you just want to grab the latest digest And... due to space and bandwidth constraints on JMDL.com, your search results actually take you back to the Smoe server to view the digest once it's figured out which one you want. >I still don't know how to locate that link. Help? 1) Log in at the JMDL 2) Go to the search page: jmdl.com/search.cfm 3) Voila! Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:01:20 -0800 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20the=20missing=20digests=20AND=20ARCHIVES =2D=20njc?= Lori wrote: but more than "some" archives are stored at >http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Every digest since April 28, 1998 is stored >there, including this morning's digest. > >For those who don't want to wade through all the N*JC posts, the "only Joni" >digests are stored here: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni/ yes, yes and thanks again for the links > >I'm not advocating one source over another, but the smoe links are useful >when you just want to grab the latest digest, or a recent one that you >haven't received. remember i'm a newbie to the list and so enjoy searching for something i didn't save like department of peace or.. > >As for the Archives on jmdl.com ... > >> i too could have sworn that it was a link on the new jmdl > >I still don't know how to locate that link. Help? it's like les said on the top left it'll tell you if you need to log in do it then you'll see SEARCH about 2/3 the way down - home free i'm grateful too for all that everybody has done and continues to do to keep these sites SO GOOD. love to everybody lesli ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:27:27 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: Fwd: An Inconvenient Question...or questions NJC An interesting question..Lori...I ..although..a very poor specimen..am a believer. Everything stems from that prism. So I concern myself..though not pressing..because I live pretty much in the moment..with my soul and the collective souls of the world. So while I think HE wants us to take care of what was loaned to us..but too... ALL aspects of this thing we call life. I do wonder and worry about what the face of America will look like in thirty years. I'm concerned with accountability...could I have done more...put forth more of an effort in things that I find..let's put it this way..NOT good for the soul. And this doesn't come from a stance of moral superiority....far from it..I realize the plank I have in my eye. I heard a woman astronaut speak the other day on some program...she described her first glance in seeing the world from her new vantage point .. space. She really couldn't articulate the beauty she was seeing... (who could?) ...but as she saw parts of the world going from darkness to light.. time zone to time zone..she wondered how humans can behave in such destructive vile ways. Maybe we all should have the opportunity to go to space before dying. Some of us..though...get IT..have gotten IT..and this wouldn't be necessary. But still a nice little trip. ;-) And Bene...concerning over-population...for your considerations...... ONLY about 5 percent of the landmass in the United States is used..not developed. Ohio .. being one of the most developed states in the country...is at 13 percent development Urban, Suburban...and I'm not sure if this includes industrial.. is at two percent. The ENTIRE world standing side by side could fit in Jacksonville, Florida. (I know...mind-boggling..but ...) Italy and Spain ..people wonder..where are all the children? They could have a real crisis sixty or so years from now. Bree >Bree wrote: > >>I find global warming a very moderate concern...and I could be totally >>naive..but it is certainly..ranks way below..my other concerns I have for >>this world. > >Can you please explain, Bree, your other, more pressing concerns? And why >they're more pressing? > >Seriously curious, > >Lori >Santa Rosa, CA > >------------- > >I agree, Lori, that if we are really facing a major disaster then this >should be our main concern. There is a very controversial >environmentalist in Denmark, Bjoern Lomborg, who has upset many people >by some of his statements. Some of them seem to be wrong, but some are >rather thought-provoking. For instance, he has been looking at the >resources spent on reducing CO2 and asked what else that money might >be spent on. One option was over-population. Clearly, if there were >less humans on this planet there would be less polution and less >poverty and less consequential crime and disease. > >On the whole, though, I can't see how global warming can be a moderate >concern. Although I guess I don't live by that... >Benedicte _________________________________________________________________ Get live scores and news about your team: Add the Live.com Football Page www.live.com/?addtemplate=football&icid=T001MSN30A0701 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:00:09 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC youtube guitarist njc Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:08:19 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: youtube guitarist njc hi im curious to know what people might think of this guitarist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddn4MGaS3N4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIzuSi3dEqI&mode=related&search= ron - ---------- I guess I am easily impressed as I am no guitar-pro but I like the guy's style. The guitar-slapping doesn't seem phony to me at all, because he dominates it so well. If anything I think it's perhaps a bit too ambient for my taste. The beard didn't spoil my listening pleasure either. But I wanted to ask about the way he plays it - where he just slaps the strings with the left hand - does anyone know what it's called? I've never seen it before. Benedicte ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:20:34 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Fwd: An Inconvenient Question...or questions NJC These were my words... > >I agree, Lori, that if we are really facing a major disaster then this > >should be our main concern. There is a very controversial > >environmentalist in Denmark, Bjoern Lomborg, who has upset many people > >by some of his statements. Some of them seem to be wrong, but some are > >rather thought-provoking. For instance, he has been looking at the > >resources spent on reducing CO2 and asked what else that money might > >be spent on. One option was over-population. Clearly, if there were > >less humans on this planet there would be less polution and less > >poverty and less consequential crime and disease. > > > >On the whole, though, I can't see how global warming can be a moderate > >concern. Although I guess I don't live by that... > >Benedicte > And Bree said > And Bene...concerning over-population...for your considerations...... > > ONLY about 5 percent of the landmass in the United States is used..not > developed. > > Ohio .. being one of the most developed states in the country...is at 13 > percent development > > Urban, Suburban...and I'm not sure if this includes industrial.. is at two > percent. > > The ENTIRE world standing side by side could fit in Jacksonville, Florida. > (I know...mind-boggling..but ...) > > Italy and Spain ..people wonder..where are all the children? They could > have a real crisis sixty or so years from now. > > Bree Mimi: Hi Bree, I think that many European countries are facing increasingly smaller generations and fear that there won't be enough young people to look after the elderly. Not that I am an expert on these matters, but that to me is a minor concern compared to the overpopulation other parts of the world suffer with, especially if overpopulation in the end will cause environmental diasters. It's good to know that there are still open spaces left in the world! But what are you going to do - send all the starving and diseased people out in the desert? Hmmm.... Benedicte ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:03:13 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Howard Zinn on Colbert tonight Good evening: Howard Zinn is going to be on Colbert tonight. I got to hear him speak this fall and he was so interesting and learned and inspiring. During the question and answer session I wanted to ask him if he thought that this was the worst administration in U.S. history, but did not get the chance. (I just saw him on a Boston station the other night where he pretty much answered my question. He said that this administration is "the most ruthless" in our country's history.) I met him after the lecture when he signed my copy of his well-known "A People's History of the United States". I was in awe of him, and shyly asked him to sign my "Give Peace a Vote" petition. He looked a little surprised and then signed it with his thick black Sharpie marker. I guess that was like asking Mother Teresa to sign a petition to help poor people! Duh! Anyway, I kept that petition page and it's the bookmark in that book now. Also on TV tonight: John's "beautiful beautiful boy" Sean Lennon on Conan O'Brien, and "The Blind Boys of Alabama" on Leno. Julius raved about them, and I think Sherelle and others have, too. I hope everyone is in the true spirit of the season. Peace, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Experience the magic of the holidays. Talk to Santa on Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0080000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/santabot/default.aspx?locale=en-us ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #485 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------