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JMDL Digest        Thursday, December 7 2006        Volume 2006 : Number 465



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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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  RE: gay marriage NJC                 ["mike pritchard" <ink08@hotmail.com>]
  Re: Joni in the aire NJC                 [Bob Muller <scjoniguy@yahoo.com>]
  Re: Who do you think Joni wrote River for?  ["Jamie's Box of Paints" <jami]
  The Music of Joni Mitchell  ["Happy The Man" <cactustreemotel@hotmail.com>]
  RE: gay marriage NJC             ["Gerald A. Notaro" <notaro@stpt.usf.edu>]
  * CLOSED Perpetual Joni Covers Train: Volumes 71-83 of JM  Covers  ["Music]
  RE: gay marriage NJC                    [Deb Messling <dlmessling@rcn.com>]
  RE: gay marriage NJC             ["Gerald A. Notaro" <notaro@stpt.usf.edu>]
  Re: Weds... Letterman NJC           [Michael Flaherty <mflaher3@yahoo.com>]
  Re: NJC, gay marriage                                  [LCStanley7@aol.com]
  Re: NJC gay marriage...                           [BlueForTheRoses@aol.com]
  Re: gay marriage NJC                              [BlueForTheRoses@aol.com]
  Re: NJC gay marriage...                           [BlueForTheRoses@aol.com]
  try another (not!) VLJC         ["anne@sandstrom.com" <anne@sandstrom.com>]
  RE: Weds... Letterman NJC                  ["Azeem" <atel79@dsl.pipex.com>]
  Fwd: Fw: Cookie Recipe, NJC                       [BlueForTheRoses@aol.com]
  Joni at Cosi                                      [BlueForTheRoses@aol.com]
  Subject: pet poison                 ["Kate Bennett" <kate@katebennett.com>]
  NJC WHAT TO DO IF YOUR DOG EATS GLASS (or other small foreign objects)  ["]
  Re: try another (not!) VLJC                [Smurf <smurfadelica@yahoo.com>]
  Please Listen To My Friend's Christmas Song (njc)  ["Sherelle Smith" <sher]
  Re: NJC gay marriage...     ["Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>]
  Re: Who do you think Joni wrote River for?  ["Sherelle Smith" <sherellesmi]
  Re: NJC, gay marriage                                  [LCStanley7@aol.com]
  Re: NJC, gay marriage       ["Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>]
  FW: [NortheastJonifest] Download news?  [Jerry Notaro <notaro@stpt.usf.edu]
  Re: NJC, smoking                  [Catherine McKay <anima_rising@yahoo.ca>]
  Re: try another (not!) VLJC  NJC                   [Em <emzdogz@yahoo.com>]

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:06:42 +0100
From: "mike pritchard" <ink08@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: gay marriage NJC

Jerry asked
>>Besides, do we really want the majority legislating the rights of the
minority?<<

Isn't that what always happens? How is the above different from the usual
legislative process?
Am I missing something here?
mike in bcn
np 10,000 Maniacs - Campfire Songs

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 03:49:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Bob Muller <scjoniguy@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Joni in the aire NJC

<Both Sides Now. Sorry Bobness, I nkow how you have had enough of that song>
I still enjoy BSN, there are always interesting things that can be done with,
and it IS an awfully pretty song.
Now as for Circle Game....yeah, I've had
enough.

Bob
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 12:15:58 +0000
From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" <jamiezubairi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Who do you think Joni wrote River for?

Didn't she meet James Taylor's sister (woman with a mouth like yours)
though... surely this was written WHILE she was seeing Taylor (or
around then anyway... a bit funny to write about someone in break-up
mode while going out with them?) Perhaps like Joni's writing, it's a
compaosite portrait... afterall the original 'All I Want' was written
in the more of 'post-relationship break up' but changed it to
something more up-beat and positive.

The original has the lines 'All I wanted love to do...' which is
looking back on a relationship and not looking forward on a new love
which is how it ended up being recorded...

Just something to think about...

much joni

Jamie Zoob

On 06/12/06, Sherelle Smith <sherellesmith@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Michael, you also make a good point! I think it's natural to think and write
> in composites. All your similar memories come back to you. This is what I
> love about Joni. I can play her music from a particular album and instantly
> relate to the experience. Court and Spark always seems to touch base with me
> when it comes to a broken heart or memories of unrequieted love. However,
> River really speaks to my heart in the same way. I am probably one of the
> few Joni amigos who has never heard all of her works. I plan on spending the
> rest of my life discovering her music.
>
> Sherelle
>
>
> >From: Michael Flaherty:
> >
> >In a message dated 12/4/2006 3:01:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> >sherellesmith@hotmail.com writes:
> >
> > >Based on  her deep relationship with Graham
> >Nash (I think), I was wondering if this  song was written about him. Just
> >curious...
> >
> >I find that a composite is always the best guess with Joni.
> >
> >Based on some things she's said about James Taylor, he's very likely to be
> >the one who loved her so naughty it made her weak in the knees. :)
> >
> >Michael Flaherty
> >Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
> >http://new.mail.yahoo.com
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>


- -- 
I am a lonely Painter
I live in a Box of Paints
I'm frightened by the devil
But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid...

Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at

http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1

acting CV and showreel at
http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749

http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 06:25:12 -0600
From: "Happy The Man" <cactustreemotel@hotmail.com>
Subject: The Music of Joni Mitchell

Austin is blessed to have a local musician (Will Taylor) who takes the music 
of artist and adds strings to them.

http://stringsattached.org/index.php

He has done some wonderful concerts with local Austin artists, Eliza 
Gilkyson, Bob Schneider, Patrice Pike, Libby Kirkpatrick, Abra Moore, Shawn 
Colvin and others.  Will also takes the music of artist and albums and sets 
strings to them as you can see with the upcoming schedule:

http://stringsattached.org/shows.php

Last years show of the Beatles "White Album" was fantastic.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/wtaylorsa2

Will is adding Joni Mitchell's music to this years schedule it's not till 
July 27 (2 shows) and July 28, so make your plans accordingly.  This will be 
a wonderful experience.  Hope to see you there.

Peace, Craig 

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 07:40:02 -0500 (EST)
From: "Gerald A. Notaro" <notaro@stpt.usf.edu>
Subject: RE: gay marriage NJC

Is it was it always attempted, but the point of USA's Constitution and
Bill of Rights is to protect the rights of the minority.

Jerry

mike pritchard wrote:
> Jerry asked
>>>Besides, do we really want the majority legislating the rights of the
> minority?<<
>
> Isn't that what always happens? How is the above different from the usual
> legislative process?
> Am I missing something here?
> mike in bcn
> np 10,000 Maniacs - Campfire Songs

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 06:49:44 -0600
From: "Music Is Special" <musicisspecial@hotmail.com>
Subject: * CLOSED Perpetual Joni Covers Train: Volumes 71-83 of JM  Covers

Offer closed -- discs go first to Robert  robert@argento.se

He will reoffer.


- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Music Is Special" <musicisspecial@hotmail.com>
To: "Joni List" <joni@smoe.org>
Cc: <SCJoniGuy@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 8:35 PM
Subject: * CORRECTED Perpetual Joni Covers Train: Volumes 71-83 of JM Covers


> In order to enable latecomers to the list or new traders have a
> chance of listening to Bob Muller's incredible compilation of covers
> of Joni's songs here is the latest round of the Perpetual Joni Covers
> Train.  Volumes 71 - 83 (taking you right up to this month's release).
>
> These are uncompressed WAV files for those who care about such things --
> they are not the MP3 versions.
>
> For those not familiar with trading trains, here is how they work:
> When the disks come to you, you make copies of as much of the
> contents as you want, and then you post back to
> this list offering to pass the disks along to the next person.  You do not
> keep the originals -- you keep the copies you made for yourself.   On most
> trains, the convention is that you make the copies and send the masters
> along within two days.  For these trains, you must agree to turn them 
> around
> within two weeks.  Sometimes the offer goes unclaimed.  Bob and I expect
> that
> to happen from time to time.  So, by participating, you agree to just hang
> on to the disks and then make another offer a month or so later (or to
> respond if somebody posts a grovel looking for them).  In theory, if
> everybody takes good care of the disks, wrapping them well, not letting 
> them
> get scratched, etc. and passes them along, these covers will run on the
> tracks for years.  Nobody is going to monitor the progress of these trains
> so if you participate and then lose the disks or fail to reoffer them, you
> will have kept others from enjoying them.  When you post an offer, please
> include these "rules".  One final note, I know a few folks like to 
> compress
> these
> into MP3s.  If you want to, go ahead but please do not send MP3s to the 
> next
> person - MP3s permanently delete some of the "data" and sound
> quality degrades so please pass the masters along.
>
> So, anybody who would like to receive volumes 51-60, please send me:
> 1. Your mailing address and
> 2. Your promise to reoffer, etc.
>
> Enjoy and happy holidays, Eric
>
>
> P.S.  If you are sitting on any of the earlier rounds, please offer them 
> up
> again as its been a while and new folks might be interested.  Thanks

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Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:57:06 -0500
From: Deb Messling <dlmessling@rcn.com>
Subject: RE: gay marriage NJC

Emerging from lurkdom:
The US constitution sets aside certain fundamental rights and removes 
them from democratic process so that the majority cannot vote to 
trample on the minority.  So, there can't be a law outlawing atheism 
even if the vast majority would approve of such a law, and there 
can't be a law treating African Americans as second class citizens 
even if the majority would dearly love such a law, as they would in 
my friggin town.

One of the questions being debated now is the extent to which the 
rights of gay and lesbian people should be  protected to the same 
extent as the rights of racial and religious minorities.  I believe 
they should.

On a side note, Public Libraries magazine instructs me that I must 
refer to the gay and lesbian community as GLBTQQ, for Gay, Lesbian, 
Bisexual, Transgender, Queer and Questioning.  Do I really have to? 
It seems cumbersome.



At 05:06 AM 12/7/2006, you wrote:
>Jerry asked
> >>Besides, do we really want the majority legislating the rights of the
>minority?<<
>
>Isn't that what always happens? How is the above different from the usual
>legislative process?
>Am I missing something here?
>mike in bcn
>np 10,000 Maniacs - Campfire Songs

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Deb Messling  -^..^-
dlmessling@rcn.com
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 08:46:46 -0500 (EST)
From: "Gerald A. Notaro" <notaro@stpt.usf.edu>
Subject: RE: gay marriage NJC

As Chair of the Florida Libraries GLBT Library Services Support Group I
deem you able to call us whatever you want! And I agree that these
acronyms are getting longer and murkier.

Jerry

Deb Messling wrote:
> Emerging from lurkdom:
> The US constitution sets aside certain fundamental rights and removes
> them from democratic process so that the majority cannot vote to
> trample on the minority.  So, there can't be a law outlawing atheism
> even if the vast majority would approve of such a law, and there
> can't be a law treating African Americans as second class citizens
> even if the majority would dearly love such a law, as they would in
> my friggin town.
>
> One of the questions being debated now is the extent to which the
> rights of gay and lesbian people should be  protected to the same
> extent as the rights of racial and religious minorities.  I believe
> they should.
>
> On a side note, Public Libraries magazine instructs me that I must
> refer to the gay and lesbian community as GLBTQQ, for Gay, Lesbian,
> Bisexual, Transgender, Queer and Questioning.  Do I really have to?
> It seems cumbersome.
>
>
>
> At 05:06 AM 12/7/2006, you wrote:
>>Jerry asked
>> >>Besides, do we really want the majority legislating the rights of the
>>minority?<<
>>
>>Isn't that what always happens? How is the above different from the usual
>>legislative process?
>>Am I missing something here?
>>mike in bcn
>>np 10,000 Maniacs - Campfire Songs
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Deb Messling  -^..^-
> dlmessling@rcn.com
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 06:46:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Flaherty <mflaher3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Weds... Letterman NJC

>>On Letterman, Weds night... BOTH  Elvis Costello AND Roseanne Cash... Not
sure
if they're performing together or being interviewed... looks like an
excellent
lineup.

I assume this is a rerun.  It's Elvis Costello doing an old
folk song (can't remember which) with Rosanne doing background vocals only.  I
thought he could have given her a line or two, but .... oh, well.

Michael
Flaherty
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:06:03 EST
From: LCStanley7@aol.com
Subject: Re: NJC, gay marriage

Lori wrote:


> Cigarettes may be a legal substance
> 


Cigarettes are a lethal substance.   Sometimes the truth is such a drag.

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:22:22 EST
From: BlueForTheRoses@aol.com
Subject: Re: NJC gay marriage...

In a message dated 12/6/2006 8:07:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
nyro_in_detroit@comcast.net writes:

I like  what I heard that Dolly Parton said about gay marriage....

She said  something to the effect of:  I'm all for gay marriage.  I think  
they have the right to be as miserable as the rest of us are!   ;-)

Best regards,

Gary Z.
Detroit



I remember seeing that on Oprah, and yo'ure right Gary that's exactly what  
she said....Dolly is from my home state of Tennessee, and I LOVE that fact that 
 she came from such a politically, and religiously, conservative area, yet 
she is  so much more open-minded than most people from that area of the state 
are.   I LOVE me some Dolly....just makes me all the more glad that I am a fan 
of  hers.....Rick

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:34:09 EST
From: BlueForTheRoses@aol.com
Subject: Re: gay marriage NJC

In a message dated 12/7/2006 8:02:11 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
dlmessling@rcn.com writes:


One  of the questions being debated now is the extent to which the 
rights of  gay and lesbian people should be  protected to the same 
extent as the  rights of racial and religious minorities.  I believe 
they  should.

On a side note, Public Libraries magazine instructs me that I  must 
refer to the gay and lesbian community as GLBTQQ, for Gay, Lesbian,  
Bisexual, Transgender, Queer and Questioning.  Do I really have to?  
It seems cumbersome.





Sometimes, especially in today's overly politically  correct society, we get 
too bogged down in terminology.  I am 30 and I  still remember when it was 
okay to just say "Gay."  Then lesbians didn't  like "gay," so it became, "gay & 
lesbian."  Then of course we had to  include bi, so that got added in.  I 
personally am okay and fine with  GLBT.  Some gays don't like transgendered being 
lumped in with us, because  it is true that homosexuality and transsexuality 
are two completely different  issues, and not always congruent with one another. 
 However, since they are  people on the so-called "Fringes" of the "Normal" 
gender roles that we are  expected to live up to, as well as gays and lesbians, 
I don't mind them being  included with us.  But it has gotten ridiculous to 
keep adding on and on  and on.  I personally hate the word "Queer," and don't 
like it that the  "younger generation" of kids has latched onto it to describe 
themselves.   The word queer means strange, weird, unusual, etc...and was an 
EXTREME insult  when I was in school.  So, I guess the point of this email is 
that  unfortunately, every gay/lesbian/bi/trans person you ask will probably 
give you  a different answer....LOL.  Rick

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:28:51 EST
From: BlueForTheRoses@aol.com
Subject: Re: NJC gay marriage...

In a message dated 12/6/2006 9:33:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
lrfye58@gmail.com writes:


Cigarettes may be a legal substance (although I can't figure out  why), but
second hand smoke is hazardous as hell.  Certain things  (like motorcycle
helmets and seat belts, and yes, smoking) SHOULD be  legislated for reasons
of safety and health.  I think, when it  concerns smoking, non-smokers'
rights should prevail.  (Sorry,  Joni.)



Sorry I do not agree with this one...I think one of the problems with our  
country today is that every single time someone gets pissed about something,  
they think a law should be passed against it.  Coming from the south, and  now 
living in the north, I see this as especially true in the north.   Everytime 
someone sees something up here they don't like, they think it should  be 
"against the law."  I don't think the government has any business  telling a man he 
has to wear a helmet on a bike, nor do they have any business  telling someone 
who rides in a car that they have to wear a seatbelt.  I  think that person 
has the right to not wear one if they want to.  Sure,  they are stupid, but 
stupidity is still their right.  The government  meddles too much in people's 
business anyway.  And public opinion is not  what swayed the Civil Rights 
movement, even though there are those misguided  souls who think so.  What swayed the 
Civil Rights Movement was the  legislature and (GASP) so-called "activist 
judges," who were doing their  Constitutional duty in deciding whether certain 
laws were or were not  constitutional.  The people were not allowed to vote on 
the Voting Act, the  Civil Rights Act, etc.  And they do not have the right to 
vote on whether  or not I deserve equality with them.  By being a U.S. Citizen, 
I am  supposed to have that guarantee already, but of course we all know that 
is not  necessarily true for everyone at all times.  IF anyone thinks that I 
don't  deserve the same as them, including all the fundamentalist churches who 
come out  so strongly against it, then they should start paying my 
taxes...it's as simple  as that.  We fought a war over this, lest we forget....Taxation 
without  Equal Representation.  Gay and lesbian people in this country are 
nothing  more than tax slaves.  Rick

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 15:44:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: "anne@sandstrom.com" <anne@sandstrom.com>
Subject: try another (not!) VLJC

I'm glad Ohio got its act together to ban smoking in public places. We 
have such a ban in MA. 

Unlike seatbelts and motorcycle helmets (which I think are good ideas, 
but I could be presuaded either way about laws requiring them), smoking 
always has an effect on others. The other two are only an issue in case 
of an accident.

And (dragging myself up on that old tired soapbox), having had the 
identical chemo that is used for lung cancer, I can tell you how much 
fun it isn't. Smoking is BAD, BAD, BAD. Not to mention putting money in 
the greedy pockets of some mighty big corporations. NOT smoking is 
rebellious and subversive :-) Joni, are you listening?

And (change of topic) I noticed an ad on tv the other night in which 
River plays in the background. It's comin' on Christmas...

lots of love,
Anne

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 15:24:28 -0000
From: "Azeem" <atel79@dsl.pipex.com>
Subject: RE: Weds... Letterman NJC

<< I assume this is a rerun.  It's Elvis Costello doing an old folk song
(can't remember which) with Rosanne doing background vocals only.  I
thought he could have given her a line or two, but .... oh, well. >>

Hmmm, now if I really wanted to see a drug reference and an "insert your
own punchline here" sign I suppose I could...

Azeem in London

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:07:43 EST
From: BlueForTheRoses@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Cookie Recipe, NJC

This is a cookie recipe I got on an email from someone, and it sounded good  
so I decided to sent it along to anyone who wanted it.....Rick

2 cups  butter
>> >> 24 oz chocolate chips
>> >> 4 cups  flour
>> >> 2 cups brown sugar
>> >> 2 tsp.  soda
>> >> 1 tsp. salt
>> >> 2 cups  sugar
>> >> 1 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated)
>> >> 5  cups blended oatmeal
>> >> 4 eggs
>> >> 2 tsp.  baking powder
>> >> 2 tsp. vanilla
>> >> 3 cups  chopped nuts (your choice)
>> >>
>> >> Measure  oatmeal, and blend in a blender to a fine powder. Cream  the
>>
>> >> butter and both sugars. Add eggs and  vanilla, mix together with
>>flour,
>> >> oatmeal,  salt, baking powder, and soda. Add chocolate chips,
>> >>  Hershey
>>Bar, and nuts. Roll into balls, and place two inches apart  on a cookie
>>sheet.
>> >>
>> >> Bake  for 10 minutes at 375 degrees. Makes 112 cookies.
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> Subject: FW: Cookie Recipe
>
>> >> A little background: Neiman-Marcus, if you don't know already, is a
>> >> very expensive store; I.E., they sell your typical $8.00 T-shirt
>> >> for $50.00. Let's let them have it! THIS IS A TRUE STORY!
>> >>
>> >> My daughter and I had just finished a salad at a Neiman-Marcus Cafe
>>      in Dallas , and we decided to have a small dessert because both
>>of us
>>    are such cookie lovers, we decided to try the "Neiman-Marcus cookie."
>>It
>>     was so excellent that I asked if they would give me the recipe,
>>and the
>> >> waitress said with a small frown, "I'm afraid not, but you can buy
>>the recipe."
>> >>
>> >> Well, I asked how much, and she responded; "Only two fifty -it's a
>> >> great deal!" I agreed to that, and told her to just add it to my tab.
>>
>> >> Thirty days later, I received m y VISA statement, and the
>>Neiman-Marcus charge was $285.00! I looked again, and I remembered I
>>had only spent $9.95 for two salads and about $20.00 for a scarf. As I
>>glanced at the bottom of the statement, it said, "Cookie
>>Recipe-$250.00". That was
>> >> outrageous!
>> >>
>> >> I called Neiman's Accounting Department and told them the waitress
>>said it was " two fifty ", which clearly does not mean "two hundred and
>>fifty dollars" by any reasonable interpretation of the phrase.
>>Neiman-Marcus refused to budge.
>> >>
>> >> They would not refund my money because, according to them, "What
>>the waitress told you is not our problem. You have already seen the
>>recipe.
>> >> We absolutely will not refund your money at this point." I
>> >> explained
>>to the Accounting Department lady the criminal statutes which govern
>>fraud in the state of Texas . I threatened to report them to the Better
>> >> Business Bureau and the Texas Attorney Generals office for engaging
>>in fraud.
>> >>
>> >> I was basically told, "Do what you want. Don't bother thinking of
>>how you can get even, and don't bother trying to get any of your money
>>back."
>> >> I just said, Okay, you folks got my $250, and now I'm going to have
>>$250 worth of fun." I told her that I was going to see to it that every
>>cookie lover in the United States with an e-mail account has a $250
>>cookie
>> >> recipe from Neiman-Marcus...for free. She replied, "I wish you
>>wouldn't do this."
>> >>
>> >> I said, "Well, perhaps you should have thought of that before you
>> >> ripped me off!" and slammed down the phone. So here it is!
>> >>
>> >> Please, please, please pass it on to everyone you can possibly
>>think of. I paid $250 for this, and I don't want Neiman-Marcus to EVER
>>make
>> >> another penny off of this recipe!
>> >>
>> >> NEIMAN-MARCUS COOKIES(Recipe may be halved)
>> >>
>> >> 2 cups butter
>> >> 24 oz chocolate chips
>> >> 4 cups flour
>> >> 2 cups brown sugar
>> >> 2 tsp. soda
>> >> 1 tsp. salt
>> >> 2 cups sugar
>> >> 1 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated)
>> >> 5 cups blended oatmeal
>> >> 4 eggs
>> >> 2 tsp. baking powder
>> >> 2 tsp. vanilla
>> >> 3 cups chopped nuts (your choice)
>> >>
>> >> Measure oatmeal, and blend in a blender to a fine powder. Cream the
>>
>> >> butter and both sugars. Add eggs and vanilla, mix together with
>>flour,
>> >> oatmeal, salt, baking powder, and soda. Add chocolate chips,
>> >> Hershey
>>Bar, and nuts. Roll into balls, and place two inches apart on a cookie
>>sheet.
>> >>
>> >> Bake for 10 minutes at 375 degrees. Makes 112 cookies.
>> >>
>> >> PLEASE READ THE RECIPE AND SEND IT TO EVERY PERSON YOU KNOW WHO HAS
>>AN
>> >> E-MAIL ADDRESS! THIS IS REALLY TERRIFIC!!
>> >>
>> >> Even if the people on your e-mail list don't eat sweets send it to
>>them and ask them to pass it on. Let's make sure we get these ladies
>>$250.00 worth.
>> >>
>> >> Enjoy the cookies, they are good....
>>
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:21:02 EST
From: BlueForTheRoses@aol.com
Subject: Joni at Cosi

I wanted to tell everyone that the other night I was at a restaurant/coffee  
bar type place called Cosi in Philly, and they were playing random music; some 
 of it was holiday, some was jazzy stuff, etc.  And ALL OF A SUDDEN,   "A 
Case Of You" came on and  I just died!  I said aloud to all my  companions, "OMG 
it's Joni!"
LOL They all laughed at my sudden outburst, and I was like, "I'm so happy  
now!"  That's the first time in a LONG time I've heard Joni anywhere like  that. 
 I loved it.  Rick

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 08:29:18 -0800
From: "Kate Bennett" <kate@katebennett.com>
Subject: Subject: pet poison

My apologies to joni onlies... I thought I was sending this elsewhere (hit
the wrong j in my send- I've done this once before- so sorry!!!!!!!!)... but
glad to hear from those who thanked me for sending it... maybe I'll send the
one about Christmas ornaments (with njc this time)

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 08:32:43 -0800
From: "Kate Bennett" <kate@katebennett.com>
Subject: NJC WHAT TO DO IF YOUR DOG EATS GLASS (or other small foreign objects)

(can you tell we're getting ready for a new doggie?)

 

WHAT TO DO IF YOUR DOG EATS GLASS (or other small foreign objects)

 

THE PROCEDURE

 

What do you do if your puppy (or mischievous older dog) gets into your
holiday decorations and eats some of the glass ornaments? This potentially
lethal mishap can darken even the brightest holiday season.

BEFORE the holiday go to a pharmacy & buy a box of cotton balls. Be sure
that you get COTTON balls...not the "cosmetic puffs" that are made from
man-made fibers. Also, buy a quart of half-and-half coffee cream and put it
in the freezer.Should your dog eat glass ornaments, defrost the
half-and-half and pour some in a bowl. Dip cotton balls into the cream and
feed them to your dog.

 

"DOSAGE" - Dogs under 10 lbs. should eat 2 balls which you have first torn
into smaller pieces. Dogs 10-50 lbs should eat 3-5 balls and larger dogs
should eat 5-7. You may feed larger dogs an entire cotton ball at once. Dogs
seem to really like these strange "treats" and eat them readily.

 

"HOW IT WORKS" - As the cotton works its way through the digestive tract it
will find all the glass pieces and wrap itself around them. Even the
teeniest shards of glass will be caught and wrapped in the cotton fibers and
the cotton will protect the intestines from damage by the glass. Your dog's
stools will be really weird for a few days and you will have to be careful
to check for fresh blood or a tar-like appearance to the stool. If either of
the latter symptoms appear you should rush your dog to the vet for a checkup
but, in most cases, the dogs will be just fine.

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 08:42:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Smurf <smurfadelica@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: try another (not!) VLJC

Anne said:
 
<< And (dragging myself up on that old tired soapbox), having had
the identical chemo that is used for lung cancer, I can tell you how much fun
it isn't. Smoking is BAD, BAD, BAD. >>


Tomorrow is the third anniversary of
the day I finally quit smoking (and the fourth anniversary of quitting
alcohol). I can see both sides of the argument about outlawing smoking in
private establishments, but it was this law and the general growing
intolerance for smoking that finally pushed me to do what I had always thought
would be impossible. 
 
I am trying to help a very good friend who's making
his first baby steps towards quitting now. He said it was very helpful when I
told him that I once thought that if I quit cigs I would go through life
craving them, as one does when one is a smoker and might go for a brief period
without a smoke. But the fact is, I almost never want a cigarette now. Often
the smell of cigarette smoke makes me want to hurl! 
 
I am grateful for
no-smoking laws and for the friends -- some of them from this list -- who
helped me find the courage to quit. Life is so much better without cigarettes.
I do things I never could do before -- like exercise! (I am about to go ice
skating at a brand new outdoor rink that opens today at lunchtime in a few
minutes.) I will always regret the time, money and health I sacrificed for
this stupid, stupid habit. 
 
- --Smurf, who also wears a bike helmet, a seat
belt, and would wear a condom if he ever had a reason to . . . 
 
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Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:00:33 +0000
From: "Sherelle Smith" <sherellesmith@hotmail.com>
Subject: Please Listen To My Friend's Christmas Song (njc)

Hi,

My friend whose name is Bernie Chiaravalle has a new Christmas song out on 
My Space that I would love you to hear. He's an avid Beatle's fan and when 
you hear him, you are going to really feel like he's channeling John Lennon 
a little! It's really good and if you are a Beatles' fan, I think you are 
really going to like it! Mon amie Patti P: I know you will like it my 
Strawberry Fields Forever Sister!

Sherelle

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Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 10:57:12 -0500
From: "Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: NJC gay marriage...

>Cigarettes may be a legal substance (although I can't figure out why), but
>second hand smoke is hazardous as hell.  Certain things (like motorcycle
>helmets and seat belts, and yes, smoking) SHOULD be legislated for reasons
>of safety and health.  I think, when it concerns smoking, non-smokers'
>rights should prevail.  (Sorry, Joni.)

That second hand stuff is crappola!    (and don't send me a bunch of links 
stating otherwise..I don't buy it.   I do buy that cigs are bad for a 
person...just not the second hand aspect)    Now this is coming from a 
person who has and has been sucking on one of those plastic cigs for weeks 
now... to curb the hand-to -mouth thing.    Actually..I agree with you for 
the most part...but let's say I have a small office I rent...(the landlord 
is cool ..no problem) .and several of the employee's smoke...why can't one 
room be set aside for the smoker?    The non-smoker can simply not go in 
that room.   This room has a huge fan/exhaust.....the smoke is all being 
sucked out.     But...noooooooooooo........government has told me that is 
not permissible.    But since the majority in Ohio has said  ....NO to 
smoking...in this state..public places that is...I will go along with the 
majority.    I don't like it...but majority rules.

Now IF Joni came to your house for a visit..I suppose you don't let anyone 
smoke in your house...would you make an exception for her?    Believe it or 
not this was a little discussion Marianne and I have had.....kind of 
silly....

Bree


>Lori, who actually feels bad for smokers sometimes ... but less and less as
>time goes by ...
>Santa Rosa, in smokeless CA

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Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:57:31 +0000
From: "Sherelle Smith" <sherellesmith@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Who do you think Joni wrote River for?

Jamie, that is something to think about! The subject of Joni's songs would 
make a great college course! Didn't someone actually do this? I find the way 
she writes infinitely facinating!

Sherelle

Jamie wrote:
>
>Didn't she meet James Taylor's sister (woman with a mouth like yours)
>though... surely this was written WHILE she was seeing Taylor (or
>around then anyway... a bit funny to write about someone in break-up
>mode while going out with them?) Perhaps like Joni's writing, it's a
>compaosite portrait... afterall the original 'All I Want' was written
>in the more of 'post-relationship break up' but changed it to
>something more up-beat and positive.
>
>The original has the lines 'All I wanted love to do...' which is
>looking back on a relationship and not looking forward on a new love
>which is how it ended up being recorded...
>
>Just something to think about...
>
>much joni
>
>Jamie Zoob
>

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:11:37 EST
From: LCStanley7@aol.com
Subject: Re: NJC, gay marriage

Bree wrote:


> In the Catholic church it's called the Sacrament of Marriage...it is Jesus
> Christ who unites this man and woman.   Not to be taken lightly...but many
> people do.
>
> Again...I don't think it is  God who has problem with people
> committing....any people..
>
>

Hi Bree,

     What I know of the sacrament of marriage in the catholic church is a
little different from what you write here.   It is the man and the woman who
do
the uniting, not Jesus, not the priest, not the church.  I've heard priests
make this very clear during catholic weddings.

     The abiility of a couple to unite in marriage is given to them by God
just as their very existence is.     But, just as a child is conceived only by
the conjugal union of a couple which is not God uniting them but them uniting
themselves, so marriage is done by the couple.   In the grand scheme of
things,
marriage comes from God which is why scriptures say, "what therefore God has
joined together, let no man put asunder."   God gives the means, but the
couple does the uniting.

     In my understanding, the concept of marriage being a sacrament or
anything being a sacrament is it is a grace filled way for people to partake
in the
life giving union of God with humanity.   In any sacrament, not just marriage,
the purpose is for people grow closer to God who is love and in doing so to
grow closer to one and other.   If marriage or other sacraments aren't that in
the catholic church, then there is no sacrament, null.

     As homosexuality is better understood as a natural condition, the
catholic church will deal with the truth accordingly.

Love,
Laura

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Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:23:32 -0500
From: "Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: NJC, gay marriage

Yes...thanks for clarifying...but isn't it the three of them?    One can't 
be done without the other?


>>Bree wrote:
>
>
> > In the Catholic church it's called the Sacrament of Marriage...it is 
>Jesus
> > Christ who unites this man and woman.   Not to be taken lightly...but 
>many
> > people do.
> >
> > Again...I don't think it is  God who has problem with people
> > committing....any people..
> >
> >
>
>Hi Bree,
>
>      What I know of the sacrament of marriage in the catholic church is a
>little different from what you write here.   It is the man and the woman 
>who do
>the uniting, not Jesus, not the priest, not the church.  I've heard priests
>make this very clear during catholic weddings.
>
>      The abiility of a couple to unite in marriage is given to them by God
>just as their very existence is.     But, just as a child is conceived only 
>by
>the conjugal union of a couple which is not God uniting them but them 
>uniting
>themselves, so marriage is done by the couple.   In the grand scheme of 
>things,
>marriage comes from God which is why scriptures say, "what therefore God 
>has
>joined together, let no man put asunder."   God gives the means, but the
>couple does the uniting.
>
>      In my understanding, the concept of marriage being a sacrament or
>anything being a sacrament is it is a grace filled way for people to 
>partake in the
>life giving union of God with humanity.   In any sacrament, not just 
>marriage,
>the purpose is for people grow closer to God who is love and in doing so to
>grow closer to one and other.   If marriage or other sacraments aren't that 
>in
>the catholic church, then there is no sacrament, null.
>
>      As homosexuality is better understood as a natural condition, the
>catholic church will deal with the truth accordingly.
>
>Love,
>Laura

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Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:52:53 -0500
From: Jerry Notaro <notaro@stpt.usf.edu>
Subject: FW: [NortheastJonifest] Download news?

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>
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 13:05:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Catherine McKay <anima_rising@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: NJC, smoking

- --- LCStanley7@aol.com wrote:

> Lori wrote:
> 
> 
> > Cigarettes may be a legal substance
> > 
> 
> 
> Cigarettes are a lethal substance.   Sometimes the
> truth is such a drag.
> 

If tobacco were "discovered" today, it would be
illegal (as well as lethal). However, it has a history
and big business behind it, and the mighty dollar (or
pound, yen, shekel, etc) rules. It's extremely
unlikely it will be illegalized as long as the tobacco
industry stays as poweful as it is. And government
makes a lot of money off it too - the taxes in Ontario
for tobacco are very high and yet people don't balk at
paying whatever it is they now pay for a pack - is it
$5? $7? I don't know because I quit over 20 yrs ago.
Government would stand to lose a lot of revenue if
they banned cigarettes - money they need to run
hospitals, to care for people with lung cancer and so
on. How ironic and how hypocritical. And they don't
like to pay for programs to help people quit, because
they're expensive and don't come with any guarantee.

I sympathize with smokers, because it's highly
addictive and some people - believe ir or not - enjoy
smoking. I used to enjoy one cigarette, maybe two,
among the 20 or so I would smoke a day. The other
18-19 I could have done without, but it doesn't work
that way.


Catherine 
Toronto
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:01:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Em <emzdogz@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: try another (not!) VLJC  NJC

- --- Smurf <smurfadelica@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am trying to help a very good friend who's making
> his first baby steps towards quitting now. 

I wish my GF would quit. 
A. because I want her to be healthy and be around for a long time and
feel well
B. her addiction sometimes messes me up.
Today being just such an instance.
I walk into the bathroom, where she has sprayed (apparently) HUGE
amounts of perfume or cologne.
WHOA! I immediately had the first asthma symptoms that I have felt in
years. Its like it sucked the air right out of my lungs. Couldn't clear
my throat.
Then on the way into work, in the car, she SMOKES with the window shut.
Finally I realized what was making me feel so ill and I asked her to
just go ahead and open the window.
And then we froze.
Apparently, just putting the damn thing out wasn't an option.
And now here I sit at work, feeling all flu-like.
Achey, scratchy throat, sneezing, slightly runny nose.
And I didn't have ANY of this til I ran into her WALL OF SMELLS this
a.m.
I mean I love the girl and all, but damn, its like she's trying to kill
me.
She should just send that perfume to North Korea, then they could give
up their nukes knowing they have another way to off the rest of the
world should the need arise.
:(
Em
ps: sorry, that was a whine...I know.
But I wasn't sick before.

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