From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #454 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, November 30 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 454 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Fwd: SJC Leonard Cohen film (and some Nick Cave... (& Nephew!) [missblux@] Re:Leonard Cohen, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Leonard Cohen, njc [Jerry Notaro ] Re: njc, the Ganga Line [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] NJC Re: Urge for Going [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC Re: Urge for Going [Smurf ] RE : Re: Leonard Cohen, njc [Joseph Palis ] Re: A little bit from back in Detroit days... ["P. Henry" ] RE : Re: New Blue, sjc [Joseph Palis ] A New "Circle Game" Cover? [Harry83house@aol.com] [NJC] Wainwright Family & Friends Christmas at Carnegie Hall ["Richard Go] Re: RE : Re: New Blue, njc [Jerry Notaro ] Re: A New "Circle Game" Cover? [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: RE : Re: New Blue, sjc [Michael Flaherty ] Feet In The Sunshine [Jerry Notaro ] Feet In the Sunshine [Jerry Notaro ] Re: [NJC] Wainwright Family & Friends Christmas at Carnegie Hall [Smurf <] RE: New Blue, now Johan Johannsson NJC [Joseph Palis ] Re:NJC, manic depression [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: war, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: war, njc [Em ] Re: NJC Re: Urge for Going [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC Re: Urge for Coming & Going [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC Re: Urge for Going ["Randy Remote" ] Re: NJC Re: Urge for Going [Smurf ] Re: A New "Circle Game" Cover? [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: NJC, weird friends? was manic depression [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: NJC Re: Urge for Going [Em ] njc, James Taylor tribute tonight ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: A New "Circle Game" Cover? [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: A Tribute to James Taylor on PBS njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: A New "Circle Game" Cover? now njc [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:11:00 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Fwd: SJC Leonard Cohen film (and some Nick Cave... (& Nephew!) Ingrid sent this to me but also wanted it on the list. It was a comment to what I said in an earlier email about the film aobut Leonard Cohen: No Joni references (how dare they!), but Cohen said something that made me think about our discussions about Dylan and Joni. He said when he came to New York as a young man and met the 'market' there, he noticed that the American poets had more grand visions about themselves and the world. Because they were Americans, the somehow expected that they would be able to change the world. The Canadians, he said, were more humble. I don't think this sums up the mystery of why everyone knows Dylan, but not Joni. But then maybe it does, anyway. I think with her, it's because she sings about personal experiences, and people at that time were so much into changing society (damn in what Joni song does the word society occur? I hear it ringing in my ear right now, just ...society!) I almost get the impression that introspection was only acceptable if the point was to break down patriarchal patterns that would make you support the capitalist society. Not that many people would admit that 'all I really want to do right now is find another lover'. But don't we all know the feeling! And here is Ingrid the Lochrenbird: - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Date: Nov 28, 2006 10:48 PM Subject: Re: SJC Leonard Cohen film (and some Nick Cave... (& Nephew!) To: missblux@googlemail.com Hi Bene! Do you know, that Bob Dylan doesn't even feature anywhere (no matter how far down) on my list of artists(musicians), I respect. And apart from the reasons you give ("the answer is blowin in the wind) it is just for me that his music ia appaling, in musical terms. I've missed you (have gone to the financial mathematics department and am handing in my application form for next year's intake later today, which by the way the oversear told me is , just by grace, in time as his just told the sciance faculty office that he needs a few more days to select applicants. I have no doubt that he will accept me. he and this other afrikaans lecturer (a woman spoke with me today). I suppose that it all comes down to this: " They have a heart" Much love Ingrid ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:21:32 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re:Leonard Cohen, njc A tree lover wrote: > I like Leonard Cohen, > (especially Suzanne) > > but I did have this same feeling Bene > > that he's arrogant. .. > Hi Green, Judy Collins sang Suzanne when I saw her in OKC in September. You hung up, but Bree was still on the phone listening. Anyway, Judy introduced the song by talking about Leonard Cohen. She said she was told she should meet him, that he was "dark" and she'd like him... and they were right. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:25:43 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Leonard Cohen, njc You can actually hear Bree purr when she listens to Judy Collins! You hung > up, but Bree was still on the phone listening. Anyway, Judy introduced the > song by talking about Leonard Cohen. She said she was told she should meet > him, that he was "dark" and she'd like him... and they were right. > > Love, > Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:39:24 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: njc, the Ganga Line I managed to stay up and watch him on Jon Stewart's Daily SHow last night - - I just love that guy. I hang on every word he says because (like Joni) he knows how important words are. He made a statement that I thought was very cool and also made me thing of Joni..."I kind of went on my own path, and it was neat to look over my shoulder and see that there were others following behind me" (or something like that). Jon was very honored to have him there, and he closed the show out with a different-sounding version of "The Day After Tomorrow" - unfortunately they ran out of time and cut into the song and into Colbert's show. I'm sure thousands of tapers around the country were issuing some choice words when that happened. Bob NP: Vangelis, "L'Enfant" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:05:27 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: NJC Re: Urge for Going Muller writes: << I was kicked out of the Cub Scouts for eating a Brownie. >> Thank God there's no pie on this list! - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:19:45 +0100 (CET) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE : Re: Leonard Cohen, njc Great to hear this, Jerry. Wonder how his sing/speak style will animate this song. I always thought that this Judy Collins song is a particularly nice song if sung by a singer with a pretty voice (and by pretty I mean the whole gamut of the word 'pretty' from vacuous pretty to melliflous pretty). There are tricky minor chords in this song that brings out the best in singers of all stripes. The latest 'melliflous pretty' version I heard came from Jane Monheit via her mixed bag of a third album. Joseph in North Carolina np: Soft Machine "We Know What You Mean" "Gerald A. Notaro" a icrit : Cohen has just recorded Judy Collins' gorgeous Since You've Asked for an upcoming cd. Jerry Marianne Rizzo wrote: > I like Leonard Cohen, > (especially Suzanne) > > but I did have this same feeling Bene > > that he's arrogant. .. I know what it is . . . I got a hold of some sheet > music of his and the forward that he had written sounded as such to me. . > . > > but I know what you mean Kakki about the beautiful music and the subtle > yet > poingnant (sp?) messages. > > > I am going to have to find that sheet music. . but probably won't anytime > soon .. I am in a bit of a clutterd state right now. . . .h e l p!!! > > : -) > > Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:41:18 +0000 > From: missblux@googlemail.com > Subject: SJC film and other Canadians... > > On 11/26/06, kbhla@sbcglobal.net wrote: >>Interesting about Cohen. I have no explanation as to why but in my >> circle >>of friends in sunny So. Calif. in the 60s the Canadian artists were >>absolutely revered. Sure we had to the locals and the San Francisco >> scene, >>but Cohen, Joni, Gordon Lightfoot, Buffy Sainte Marie and all the others >>were really beloved in my group. Maybe it was because in a way they were >>humble. They were not beating us over the head with their messages and >>excess - they were just making stone beautiful music. Music that went >>beyond obvious messages and gave us the real message. >> > > Ah! So he was spot on! He seems to be a very intelligent and > insightful man, which your email somehow confirms. I was never that > much into him, I think because when I first heard him, the weighty way > of his phrasing made me think he was being shallow and arrogant. I > guess that says more about me though! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get the latest Windows Live Messenger 8.1 Beta version. Join now. > http://ideas.live.com - --------------------------------- Dicouvrez une nouvelle fagon d'obtenir des riponses ` toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expiriences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Riponses. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 01:56:54 +1000 (ChST) From: "P. Henry" Subject: Re: A little bit from back in Detroit days... Hi Deb, Well, I got 474 hits for him on Google but I only found one audio file so far at: http://jukeboys.topcities.com/coden.htm and you can also see what he looks like nowadays. He must be pushing 70 by now... It's a comedy song on the yiddish side. He always did comedy bits. He also does a song now called "Twas the Night Before the Seventh Day of Chanukah" which has appeared 4 times on Dr. Demento:  Twas the Night Before the 7th Day of Hanukkah-Ron Coden **Words and Music by Tom Lehrer 1990 "I'm spending Hannukah in Santa Monica Wearing sandals, lighting candles by the sea I spent Shavuos in East Saint Louis A charming spot but clearly not the spot for me... Those eastern winters, I can't endure 'em So every year I pack my gear and come out here til Purim Rosh Hashona I spend in Arizona And Yom Kippah way down in Mississippah But in December there's just one place for me Mid the California flora I'll be lighting my menorah Like a baby in its cradle I'll be playing with my draydel Here's to Judas Maccabeus, Boy if he could only see us Spending Hannukah, in Santa Monica, By the Sea!" He apparently also had a tv show in Detroit at some point and it seems he's done/does childrens music & shows. Also here is a link to some cds he made of a song I remember him doing called "Two Little Boys" an anti-war melodrama about two boys who grew up and joined opposite sides in the civil war: http://www.musicstack.com/show.cgi but if you really want to hear him in his prime, get that album on ebay by all means! It's a great album. BTW, the seller replied to my email with the songlist as follows: side 1 #1 medley-canaan land & work song #2 the new frankie and jonnie song #3 two little boys #4 highwayman #5 until it's time for you to go #6 rich man side 2 #1 lollypop tree #2 watermelon man #3 whisling gypsy #4 rising of the moon #5 black freighter (Pirate Jenny) ...and also sent me some more detailed pics including a glare-free shot of the conver. http://www.yousendit.com/download/YBbCVjCCp3l5TA%3D%3D Also, While meandering through some of the links I found him associated with Josh White Jr. and Charlie Latimer, both of whom I also booked at the Cellar. Still meandering I came across a link titled "Welcome To The Lizzard" which brought to mind the good ol' "Sippin Lizzard" coffeehouse in Flint MI. It was a cool place as I recall, a little excentric for a coffeehouse... I remember cusions on the floor..? Lister Brian Moss, once manager of the Cellar, could tell us a lot more about it but, at any rate, I opened up the link http://www.flintfolkmusic.org/links.htm and it seems the Lizzard still exists as the fest performance arm of The Flint Folk Music Society and sure enough Ron played there in 10/01 and as I surveyed the list further guess who jumped out, none other than Chuck Mitchell himself who played there in 2/02 and 11/02! Of course this started up the old memories again and I recall how Chuck and Joni used to play the Lizzard as often as they played the Cellar and that was often! See, if you look at a map of Michigan http://www.merriam-webster.com/maps/images/michigan_map.gif you'll see that Flint and Port Huron are almost exactly the same driving distance from Detroit. Mostly you hear about the Chessmate and that's because, being deep in the east side of the city (Detroit) they were opened 7 nights a week so that was their bread and butter and I'm sure they played there as often as they could, but most coffeehouses were only open on the weekend and so, whenever they had to give way to Tom Rush, Patrick Skye, Dave Van Ronk, The Spike Drivers, Siegel-Schwall Blues Band or The Blues Magoos they'd play all the other venues which were opened only on the weekend. http://www.jmdl.com/library/print.cfm?id=911 How about that? Ain't the internet cool? After more 40yrs! Who'da thunk it? Cheers, Pat Deb wrote: > Okay, you've got my attention. How can I HEAR this guy? > > > At 10:45 AM 11/27/2006, you wrote: >> A short, stout, Jewish folkie from back in the day with a HUGE voice > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- > dlmessling@rcn.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:38:50 +0100 (CET) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE : Re: New Blue, sjc If I may add my voice to this subject: I like certain albums to be enhanced in sound engineering and all that sonic thingamagig but not necessarily added with tracks that were found in the vaults somewhere. I refer to the Verve Records in relation to reissues of jazz albums that had 2 or 3 or 10 or 15 other alternate takes that are suppoed to provide the listeners with insights into the creative process of making the record. I like Billie Holiday but I didn't quite like the added tracks at the end of her "Lady in Satin" album and all those adlibs. I like to hear them in another CD of outtakes but not in the original CD that I have grown to like through the years. Somehow the re-sequencing of songs too are a pain because songs that I have known to follow each other were replaced by others. Like Ella Fitzgerald's historic "Ella in Berlin" album where the record producers thought it was the savviest thing to insert two live tracks from another concert in the middle of Ella's performance. I cringe at this inclusion much as I like the First Lady of Song's voice. What's even sad was the admission in the liner notes that those two songs were actually from another live album of Ella (Ella in Hollywood). So how does this relate to Joni's Blue? I like Blue as it is sequenced and put together but I have this uber-curiousity (nay, even excitement) to hear how the other tracks that are to be included in the new expanded version will meld and cohere in this already outstanding album. But outtakes from these sessions should, in my opinion, be placed in another compilation CD. I like Miles Davis' "Kind of Blue" but my ears did not really pick up subtle changes in the additional "Flamenco Sketches" that was added in the enhanced version. But this is another story. Joseph in NC np: Johan Johannsson - "IBM 1401 - A User's Manual" Mark-Leon Thorne a icrit : I'm very confused. Everybody seems very excited at the prospect of the new expanded versions of a couple of albums to be released next year but when I expand my copy of Blue with songs that are more than appropriate for that album, some people get upset and tell me that I'm wrong. I don't get it. Joni's final decision for the tracks on Blue are obvious but, Hunter and Urge For Going were originally going to be on that album so, I don't see how it could be inappropriate to put them back. I see it as restoring the album or filling it out. Which other album would be more appropriate than Blue? I have always been a fan of the expanded album. I have many expanded versions of albums that I have collected over the years and just started doing it myself. I love Joni's albums as they are and I will never forget their original releases but I don't like having these bits and pieces lying around on their own. I want the full experience, how the album might have sounded if it weren't for the record company's restrictions. I probably agree with Joni's choice to dump those songs in favour of AIW and TLTISR. They are superior songs (then again, no Joni song is inferior to me) but who's to say that, if given the choice, Joni might have kept them all? It's supposed to be fun. I am a frustrated music producer and I am just playing because I can. I'm fulfilling a fantasy. I'm sure Joni's music conjures some sort of fantasy in each and every one of your heads. I only mentioned this hobby here in case anyone gets inspired by it and would like a copy of my CD cover. I never meant to cause any controversy or ill feelings. I only want to share what I do with like minded people. If people have a problem with what I do, I will keep it to myself. I have really felt that I have been under attack lately. I would never presume to tell anybody here what they can and can't do. The closest I would get is to suggest what I might do differently. I'm going through a tough time right now and feeling particularly friendless and vulnerable so I may be taking all this a bit too seriously but I certainly don't mean to upset anyone else. I get pleasure in knowing that I can contribute to this list and JMDL.com even though I don't have a lot to share. I don't even know if the artwork that I have uploaded is of any use to anyone or if I'm just wasting my time and bandwidth. My apologies if I have upset anyone. Mark in Sydney NP The Times of Harvey Milk - Mark Isham - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail riinvente le mail ! Dicouvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface rivolutionnaire. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:59:44 EST From: Harry83house@aol.com Subject: A New "Circle Game" Cover? Hey Bob! Harry here! I was just wondering if you were aware of an inte resting cover of "THE CIRCLE GAME". I heard it on Jonathan Schwartz' WNYC-FM Saturday afternoon radio show. The song is combined with "THE WATERS OF MARCH"...a girl sings Joni's song and a guy sings the other one in a very interesting, stripped-down arrangement. The songs weave in and out and around each other and, to me, its a fascinating and beautiful combination of two unique and wonderful songs. I was in the car when I heard it, so I wasn't able to write down any info, but I think Schwartz said the album would be out in January. The artists are Jack and Jessica...or Jessica and John...something like that. At any rate, I thought of you immediately when I heard it. Shwartz has also been playing a lot of cuts from Carly Simon's upcoming new release...it sounds stunning...very wintry. Hope you are well! Harry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:08:47 -0800 From: "Richard Goldman" Subject: [NJC] Wainwright Family & Friends Christmas at Carnegie Hall It was to be the McGarrigle Christmas Hour, very similar to last year's concert, and it was to tour, with stops in L.A., the Northwest, Midweat and East Coast, Canada, as well as Carnegie Hall/NYC. But there's been some changes.... Here's the notes from Rufus' website and management: McGarrigle Family Tour Cancellation 11/13/06 With our deep regrets, we are sad to announce the cancellation of the McGarrigles Christmas Tour. Due to an unexpected illness in the family, the tour will not be taking place this year, with the exception of December 13, at Carnegie Hall, which will now be the Wainwright Family and Friends Christmas. All tickets for the New York show will be honored. Once again, our apologies to everyone. We truly appreciate your understanding at this time. More information about the Carnegie Hall show will be forthcoming.Refunds for tickets will be available from point of purchase. and from yesterday 11/28/06 .........Wainwright Family and Friends Christmas The Wainwright Family and Friends evening at Carnegie Hall on December 13, 2006 has just announced some very special guests. We are thrilled to welcome Laurie Anderson, David Byrne, Jimmy Fallon, Linda Thompson, and Teddy Thompson to our Wainwright Christmas celebration. It will surely be a fun and festive evening. There may also be a few surprise guests stopping by...hope to see you all there! Tickets are available at: - ; www.carnegiehall.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:24:19 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: RE : Re: New Blue, njc > I like Billie Holiday but I didn't quite like the added tracks at the end > of her "Lady in Satin" album and all those adlibs. I like to hear them in > another CD of outtakes but not in the original CD that I have grown to like > through the years. My favorite cd of all time. I have about 6 different reissues because I love the additional tracks. Since they are at the end of the cd and not part of the original sequence they don't bother me. Somehow the re-sequencing of songs too are a pain because > songs that I have known to follow each other were replaced by others. Like > Ella Fitzgerald's historic "Ella in Berlin" album Another spectacular recording. Though my first version was the reel-to-reel tape! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:25:10 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: A New "Circle Game" Cover? Hiya Harry - thanks for the heads up on that one, I have not caught wind of it yet so I'll keep the high beams on and hopefully will get more details soon - I couldn't pull anything up on the web about it. Sounds like an interesting medley. I got a recording of Circle Game in the mail yesterday - historically significant because it was recorded in 1969 before Joni released HER recording. Bob NP: The Arcade Fire, "Haiti" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:32:18 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: RE : Re: New Blue, sjc >np: Johan Johannsson - "IBM 1401 - A User's Manual" This is on it's way to me as we speak! :) I remember when, as a very young man, I bought the Beatles bootleg, Sweet Apple Tracks: I was facinated. It was like sitting in on a Beatles session, including between song discusions, tuning etc. Of course, they were making a movie (Let it Be) and had a pretty good size budget, so the tapes kept rolling. This wet my appetite for these types of recordings, and I continue to have that appetite today. However, often what comes out of the vaults was put there for a purpose, and in Joni's case I'm willing to place a good size bet that the best material is out already there. Still, if the new masters have lots of alternates and unreleased songs I'll buy them without hesitation. Any Joni is worth having. Michael Flaherty _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:59:22 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Feet In The Sunshine Just listened to Feet In the Sunshine in my Itunes Shuffle and could swear Joni was in the singing chorus. I don9t have the cd and can find nothing online. It is on his Archive cd. Anyone have a clue? Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:05:27 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Feet In the Sunshine Just found out it is Joni, Crosby, and Linda Ronstadt! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:17:02 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: [NJC] Wainwright Family & Friends Christmas at Carnegie Hall I am sorry there's illness in the family. I hope all turns out fine. On the subject of things Wainwright, Richard, is there any word on when we might start looking for Rufus' Carnegie Hall Judy Garland reprise concert? Thanks, - --Smurf _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:07:32 +0100 (CET) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE: New Blue, now Johan Johannsson NJC Hi Michael ~ I am sure you will love Johan Johannsson's album. I don't know what it is about Scandinavian (and Icelandic in particular) music and musicians that fascinate me so much about their musical creation. Or Japanese shoe-gaze pop music. Three months agoI would not have known Johannsson but as this album is in rotation in the station, I gave it a listen first and was blown away by the cinematic quality of this postmodern orchestral work. Evoking dystopic visions of highways, and electric poles and sad and abandoned factories. Sorry for rambling. On a totally new phase, had you had the occasion to listen to Aaron Funk's music via Venetian Snares? Recommended highly. Joseph in Chapel Hill np: Nina Nastasia "On Leaving" Michael Flaherty a icrit : >np: Johan Johannsson - "IBM 1401 - A User's Manual" This is on it's way to me as we speak! :) - --------------------------------- Dicouvrez une nouvelle fagon d'obtenir des riponses ` toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expiriences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Riponses. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:34:51 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Soldiers (njc) >There are just as many middle or upper class people who choose to join the military as those who are poor and without many opportunities. This is a fact one would know if one dealt with the military or read about the diversity of the troops.< If it is indeed fact that low income, middle class & upper class (not sure how that last group is defined) are equally represented as joining (the operative word) the military currently (another operative word) could you share the stats? I'm curious because I find this hard to believe but am open to it being so. >the next thing you know funding and care or any attention for soldiers is being cut off and so on. That's why some people get upset at seeing the same old playbook that was played on people back in Vietnam. < This has been a problem for many decades. Vietnam vets have had problems being cared for properly & the gov't has turned a blind eye to their care by not acknowledging their illness as related to their military time. I'm glad your brother is finally getting the care he deserves. Disgusting that it took so long. Just as disgusting is the treatment our current soliders are receiving from their government in terms of being given the proper equipment & support. A lot of money (our tax dollars) has been given to the private contractors though. Who apparently have misspent a lot of it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:07:33 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re:NJC, manic depression Bene wrote: > I'm not a lesbian, but it is weird how I keep making friends with > gays > and lesbians, and how all sorts of things that I like are popular with > them too. I was really surprised when I joined the list and found out > that > Joni has a lot of gay followers. > Hi Bene, Maybe gays and lesbians are just people too. Love, Laura NPIMH: Manic Depression by Jim Hendrix Manic depression is touching my soul I know what I want but I just don't know How to, go about gettin' it Feeling sweet feeling, Drops from my fingers, fingers Manic depression is catchin' my soul Woman so weary, the sweet cause in vain You make love, you break love It's all the same When it's, when it's over, mama Music, sweet music I wish I could caress, caress, caress Manic depression is a frustrating mess Well, I think I'll go turn myself off, And go on down All the way down Really ain't no use in me hanging around In your kinda scene Music, sweet music I wish I could caress, caress, caress Manic depression is a frustrating mess ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:10:16 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: war, njc Lori wrote: > I wish we could THROW pies on this list! ; ) > Hi Lori, Now that's my kind of war! Love, Laura (waiting for a banana cream to come my way) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:27:10 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: war, njc reminds me of that Bob Marley lyric "hit me with music...brutalize me with music". Em - --- LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > Lori wrote: > > > I wish we could THROW pies on this list! ; ) > > > > Hi Lori, > > Now that's my kind of war! > > Love, > Laura (waiting for a banana cream to come my way) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:13:02 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC Re: Urge for Going - --- Smurf wrote: > Muller writes: > > << I was > kicked out of the Cub Scouts for eating a Brownie. > >> > > > Thank God there's no pie on this list! > > --Smurf Allow me to express my complete wonderment that the whole topic of pie hasn't completely degenerated, as is so often the case when these types of multiple-meaning words are mentioned. Not that I'd start anything. NPIMH: Some Joni song of wild abandon that mentions "ice cream melting on a piece of pie." I wonder what she meant by that....? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:43:08 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: NJC Re: Urge for Coming & Going <"ice cream melting on a piece of pie." I wonder what she meant by that....?> Well, it's the same as goat dancing, right? That is to say that the ice cream = boom boom pachyderms and the piece of pie = the Ethiopian Wall pinned by the serpent. Or something like that. 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XO, - --Smurf, who has been known to enjoy a slice now and then _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:31:40 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: A New "Circle Game" Cover? If Jonathan Schwartz is playing it, the artists are almost certainly Jessica Molaskey and John Pizzarelli. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:53:21 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: NJC, weird friends? was manic depression On 11/29/06, LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > > Bene wrote: > > > I'm not a lesbian, but it is weird how I keep making friends with > gays > and lesbians, and how all sorts of things that I like are popular with > them too. I was really surprised when I joined the list and found out > that > Joni has a lot of gay followers. > > > > Hi Bene, > > Maybe gays and lesbians are just people too. > > Love, > Laura > Hi Laura, your message made me go Oh NO! NoNoNoNo! I wasn't tryng to say it's weird to make friends with gay people! Sorry, that email was phrased in a sloppy way - but then it was in fact part of another off-list chat I had with Ingrid and not intended for the list. Sorry if a lot of irrelevant NJC from me is posted that way. What I was thinking of was that I have a lot of gay friends. Here in Cambridge, you usually find your friends in college, at your faculty or in a university society. In all of these places, at least one of the two or three persons I am or have been close to is gay. Then I have a few friends I've met outside university, college, etc, and guess what, they are gay. A lot of these people have left town, so the most significant new people I have met in the past year are you people on the list. I had no idea so many gay people like Joni. I didn't know that it was no coincidence that the first person I ever met who knew a lot about her was gay. So when I joined the list, I was a bit puzzled to learn this. In any case, I didn't want to reignite the discussion about Joni and the gay crowd once again (although it was an interesting one). But you know, sometimes when you make a new friend you think it's appropriate to say where you stand. Best Bene ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:42:10 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC Re: Urge for Going sounds lesbian to me.... :P kiddin' Em - --- Catherine McKay wrote:> NPIMH: Some Joni song of wild abandon that mentions > "ice cream melting on a piece of pie." I wonder what > she meant by that....? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:45:39 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, James Taylor tribute tonight Dear Ones: Just a friendly reminder of what promises to be a wonderful tribute tonight. This was in my paper tonight. (SPOILER ALERT! If you like to be surprised, don't read any more.) Time To Shower The People (James Taylor, Anyway) With Well-Deserved Praise November 29, 2006 Like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction dinner, the annual MusiCares Person of the Year dinner - held just before the Grammys and taking advantage of so much talent in one place - was too good not to become a television special. So the event last February honoring James Taylor comes to public television as a "Great Performances" (CPTV, 9 p.m.; WGBY, Channel 57, 8 p.m.). As part of the dinner, a number of artists perform and reminisce about the guest of honor. There are a lot of songs and performers to go around. The Dixie Chicks sing "Shower the People," and Bonnie Raitt sings "Rainy Day Man." Bruce Springsteen finds one of Taylor's workingman songs, "Millworker," that suits him. Sting plays "You Can Close Your Eyes" on lute; Alison Krauss and Jerry Douglas do a beautiful job on "Carolina in My Mind." And Taylor himself joins Carole King on a performance of "You've Got a Friend." There's time for only about three Taylor performances in the warm affair, and of course, he's not going to leave before he sings "Fire and Rain." The rich music special serves as a kind of safe harbor from carols. If carols are what you're craving, though, a raft of stars - including Christina Aguilera, Sting, Bette Midler, Lionel Richie, Sarah McLachlan, Enya, John Legend, Martina McBride and Taylor Hicks - sing songs of the season during "Christmas in Rockefeller Center" (NBC, 8 p.m.), hosted by Al Roker and Ann Curry. The big deal is the 74th lighting of the tree, an 88-foot Norway spruce from a home in Ridgefield." ****** This NBC special is on my TV right now (7 p.m. EST). A kind lurker from NYC who I met at the Tribute on February 1st alerted me to this and said mid-town Manhattan is all abuzz over this. Peaceful blessings to all, Patti P. P.S. Sarah McLachlan just sang "River" by "JONI MITCHELL"! It was beautiful. Hope you all caught it. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:50:29 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: NJC, weird friends? was manic depression > But you know, sometimes when you make a new friend > you think it's appropriate to say where you stand. Or with whom you sleep, as the case may be. ; ) Lori, a lesbian in Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:02:45 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: A Tribute to James Taylor on PBS njc reminder 11/29 8:00 check your local listings.... bA Tribute to James Taylor.b Performers include Taylor, Bruce Springsteen, Carole King, Sting, Bonnie Raitt, the Dixie Chicks, Indie.Arie, Jackson Browne, David Crosby, Sheryl Crow, Dr. John, Taj Mahal, Alison Krauss, Jerry Douglas, Keith Urban. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:15:54 EST From: Harry83house@aol.com Subject: Re: A New "Circle Game" Cover? Thanks, David! You are correct... You triggered my weakened short term memory banks when you wrote the names of Schwartz favorites Jessica Molaskey and John Pizzarelli. They sang the "Circle Game/ Waters of March" Medley. Harry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:20:25 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: (NJC) Sex Will Make You Go Blind Okay ... now BushCo wants to spend $50 million on expanding abstinence education programs to include adults between the ages of 19 and 29. We don't have something better to do with that kind of money? Feed the hungry? Spend it on improving academic education? Send our troops the proper equipment? Pardon the pun, please, but what the fuck is wrong with these people??? Sigh ... two more years to go ... ___________________________________________________________________________ Sex Will Make You Go Blind Single? Under 30? You are in grave danger. Your government says so. Please, stop laughing http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2006/11/29/notes112906.DTL ___________________________________________________________________________ Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:24:44 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: A New "Circle Game" Cover? "Waters of March" is a unique and wonderful song. It works as a decompressor after something very, very emotional. Judy and I have done it in a medley following "In My Life." I have been listening to "The Circle Game" too, as a new grandfather and can now officially designate myself FORMERLY too mean to cry. LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:03:26 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: A Tribute to James Taylor on PBS njc now doesn't he play some pretty chords? Thought I'd see Joni there :~( A GREAT Tribute nonetheless...could not wipe the smile off my face... loved Livingston too:~) rosie in nj npimh....how sweet it is.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:18:36 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: A New "Circle Game" Cover? now njc - --- Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > "Waters of March" is a unique and wonderful song. It > works as a decompressor > after something very, very emotional. Judy and I > have done it in a medley > following "In My Life." I bet that sounds great. I can sort of hear it in my head. > I have been listening to "The Circle Game" too, as a > new grandfather and can > now officially designate myself > > FORMERLY too mean to cry. > > > LAHM Congratulations!!! Boy or girl? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:40:18 +1100 From: "Ashley" Subject: Where is Joni when you need her?? NJC Canada townsfolk in nude pothole protest Thursday Nov 30 12:31 AEDT People in a small town in western Canada are so fed up with the rotten = state of their main road that they came up with an unusual form of = protest - a calendar that shows them posing nude in the potholes. One inhabitant of Leader, Saskatchewan, is shown sitting in a canoe that = is perched in a pothole. Another has his dignity preserved by a well-placed camera while a third = man covers up with a strategic hubcap. "The initial impression when people open the calendar for the first time = is 'Oh my God!' It's pretty dramatic," said Wayne Elhard, the local MLA. =20 =20 =20 Leader, a town of just 1,000 in a largely farming area of south-west = Saskatchewan, says it can't afford to fix all its roads. "The potholes are not small, one-foot (30 cm) diameter potholes. They = are many feet across and sometimes they're as deep as a foot deep and = sometimes they will stretch for yards," Elhard told CBC television. He said during the summer, local authorities had covered the worst = stretch of the main road with gravel to improve safety. "It's been a constant problem. We've raised it with the (provincial) = government every opportunity we had ... all to no avail, frankly," he = said. =A9AAP 2006 [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of a.gif] [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of space.gif] [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of logo_aap.jpg] ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #454 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------