From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #445 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, November 24 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 445 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- NJC [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] NJC being protected [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] NJC about learning language ["Oddmund Kaarevik" ] Anita O'Day - njc ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: NJC about learning language ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] RE: I'm in the cast! (njc) - sondheim's 'barcelona' ["Michael O'Malley" <] Joni's re-releases. [Bob Muller ] Wild Turkeys Try to Hop Train Out of N.J. njc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving now scary animals [Cather] Re: tofurkey njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC about learning language [Catherine McKay ] RE : Anita O'Day - njc [Joseph Palis ] Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving now scary animals [Em ] Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving now scary animals [Cathe] NJC about joni and getting personal and the rest of it ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving now scary animals [Em <] Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving now scary animals [RoseM] njc, Amma and "Darshan, The Embrace" ["Patti Parlette" ] sjc? Re: General Hospital - Both Sides NowAt Last ["Patti Parlette" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:30:48 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: NJC Bob, did you receive my email about half an hour ago. It seemed I had an email coming through from somewhere, and yet there's nothing in my inbox. Please confirm tha you did get the mial to you. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 01:15:25 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: NJC being protected by the gods, from wolves and bears. i somehow have had bree land up in the wrong folder, under trash. this wasn't meant to be, but this message is for you as well , Bree. many blessing and thanks ingrid ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:01:27 +0100 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: NJC about learning language well another njc from me thought i should just share a funny experience with you all i'm working as a childrens librarian besides work at the moment i'm getting trained to be a whichbookreader (sorry *Lady Isadora not witch) you can check the english web page here : http://www.whichbook.net/ Have a go and see what book that will pop up when you chosen your desires ... we' ve been lucky here in Norway - to adopt the concept and developin a norwegian database. i'm still a trainee -- and it's both funny and exciting. at the moment i'm have a pair-reader (another children's librarian) and we have to come to a conseneus on the books we read - which is both challenging and great fun. our teacher is the founder of whichbook - Rachel Van Riel - director of opening the book http://www.openingthebook.com/otb/welcome.asp?idno=1&textonly=0&f=1 And since she can not speak norwegian - we have to write in english. the funny thing i discovered was that in translating my text from norwegian to english - i discovered that my written english had improved a great deal. suddenly phrases i didn't know i knew started to pop out of me. it's not like i'm fluent or anything - but I just looked at my language - and I thought - well this is not bad, not bad at all. and i started thinking howcome my english has improved? I haven't studies english for seven years and i'm not talking it much either and i'm not reading fiction in english at the moment (except from my harry potter periods) so after a short time considering the subject i found out that my english has improved - thanks to you guys. I read the digest almost every day - so everyday has some sort of english or american(english) input to my brain. my vocubulary videns.my cup runneth over. I was happy to see this. (of course some of the phrases that pops out of me comes directly from Joni - like ahving a bad day --down,down, down the dark ladder) Or "they paved paradise and put up a parking lot....But some of the more normal colloquial phrases have found its way from your place and your pc to my head. isn't this quite fascinating? I think so :-) so my thanks or thabnks goes out to all of you out there ! bon thanksgiving weekend ! Bob - enjoy your movie! Catherine - music soon on its way best* Oddmund, Norway ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:01:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Anita O'Day - njc She was often mentioned on the list, most likely because she was such an innovator. She has died at age 87. I didn't know she was referred to as the Jezebel of Jazz because of her wild behavior and heroin and alcohol addictions. Jerry, who NEVER shops the day after Thanksgiving ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:32:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: NJC about learning language Oddmund Kaarevik wrote: > well another njc from me > thought i should just share a funny experience with you all > i'm working as a childrens librarian Yeah! Another librarian on the list! I was a children's librarian for 5 years before becoming a University Librarian, Oddmund. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:12:11 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: RE: I'm in the cast! (njc) - sondheim's 'barcelona' I love the show Company - one of my favourite musicals. The characters are endearing, the music is very strong - the harmonies are very unusual and amazing. I've always thought it would be interesting to see an all-male, gay-themed version of this show ! Congratulations Victor - you are in for a musical treat - if not a musical challenge ! Michael in Quibec Patrick wrote: it's not really about barcelona. the song is from his 1970 show, 'company', which is about a single guy, bobby, on his 35th birthday. 'company' has no plot, really, it just introduces you to bobby's friends, five married couples, and the three almost girlfriends he keeps on a string. it's really about fear of intimacy, fear of commitment. big subjects for a musical! the music and lyrics are just brilliant. 'barcelona' is sung by bobby and one of his girlfriends, april, a stewardess, early in the morning after they've had a great night of sex. she has to leave, early, to fly to barcelona (and madrid), and he's trying to convince her not to leave (but is he seriously asking?) it's a beautiful ballad, with guitar and strings, and it's ingenious how they trade lines in the middle of musical bars. another favorite sondheim song of mine. i just found the lyrics, and it's definitely not a poem, it only works with the melody, the arrangement and two voices. but if you're really interested: http://www.ostlyrics.com/read.php?sid=2052 all the best, patrick np - Alif Tree, Melismes Extatiques _________________________________________________________________ Off to school, going on a trip, or moving? Windows Live (MSN) Messenger lets you stay in touch with friends and family wherever you go. Click here to find out how to sign up! http://www.telusmobility.com/msnxbox/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 06:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni's re-releases. No real clear details that I can find, Andy. Both Amazon & CD Universe are listing all three cd's as "Remastered & Expanded" and ready to ship January 23. Amazon lists them as double-cd collections, CDU as singles. WEA/Rhino is listed as the label but nothing to be found on their website. Amazon has the tracklisting for each one as identical to what is already there. I too am anxious to see what (if anything) is going on with a remastered release of the core of Joni's genius (C&S, HOSL, Hejira). I guess all we can do is continue to wait. Bob NP: David Baerwald, "A Secret Silken World" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:34:37 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Wild Turkeys Try to Hop Train Out of N.J. njc This is so funny....I had to share it with you... I see them a lot here where I live trying to cross River Road _http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/wild-turkeys-try-to-hop-train-out-of-nj/ 200_ (http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/wild-turkeys-try-to-hop-train-out-of-nj/200) Happy Black Friday rosie stuck in nj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:24:59 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving now scary animals - --- Ingrid Lochrenberg wrote: canada > soud fasntastic. I know > the quality of life there (whatever tha's supposed > to mean) is magnificant> I > just don't know about the cold. My fearful animals-I > never could really place > this, has alwasy been bears and wolves. Not that > thre are any in south africa. I don't generally run into bears and wolves, living in the city, unless I'm at the zoo, or they're the two-legged variety ;-) As for the cold, what can I tell you? It does get cold in the winter and some winters are worse than others. But I do enjoy having the different seasons. My favourite season is fall, but we got sort of ripped off this year, because it was rainy, cloudy and gloomy throughout most of September and October. Now, at last, the sun is back and I'm enjoying it more, even though most of the trees have lost their leaves. Still, walking through crunchy leaves and kicking them around, while eating a crunchy apple, is something I very much enjoy about fall. One thing I can say about Canada - very few, if any, poisonous snakes, except for rattlesnakes in some areas! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:25:37 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: tofurkey njc - --- Deb Messling wrote: > I hosted Thanksgiving this year and made a Tofurkey > for my vegetarian > nieces. At one point while hanging out in the > kitchen, someone commented > that they smelled something like plastic burning - > and then we realized it > was the Tofurkey. Yum!! > Did you check to make sure you had taken it out of the plastic wrapper first? ;-) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:47:43 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC about learning language - --- Oddmund Kaarevik wrote: > well another njc from me > thought i should just share a funny experience with > you all > i'm working as a childrens librarian > besides work at the moment i'm getting trained to be > a whichbookreader > (sorry *Lady Isadora not witch) > you can check the english web page here : > http://www.whichbook.net/ > Have a go and see what book that will pop up when > you chosen your desires > ... I checked it out and this is very cool. Sometimes I want something to read and can't find what I'm in the mood for - this looks like just the thing to help with that. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:14:42 +0100 (CET) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE : Anita O'Day - njc Sad to hear this. Anita O'Day would have to be one of the very last jazz singers of her kind (thankfully Lena Horne, Ernestine Anderson, Sheila Jordan, Chris Connor and Annie Ross are still with us). Although I had major issues with O'Day's last album "Indestructible" (but more for the people who insist on cashing on in her legend), I agree that she is one of the jazz world's overtly feminist musicians. Not only for insisting that she wear the same clothes worn by musicians and not the usual ball gown worn by "girl canaries" of that period. I will forever think of her rapid-fire version of "Tea for Two" (which was widely copied) and "Sing Sing Sing" when I think of her. I will definitely play a track featuring her one-of-a-kind voice later on in the show as tribute. Here's a moment of silence to those who recently passed away: Ruth Brown and Robert Altman. Joseph in (sunny) Chapel Hill np: Diana Krall - "Devil May Care" "Gerald A. Notaro" a icrit : She was often mentioned on the list, most likely because she was such an innovator. She has died at age 87. I didn't know she was referred to as the Jezebel of Jazz because of her wild behavior and heroin and alcohol addictions. Jerry, who NEVER shops the day after Thanksgiving - --------------------------------- Dicouvrez une nouvelle fagon d'obtenir des riponses ` toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expiriences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Riponses. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 09:20:59 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving now scary animals - --- Catherine McKay wrote:> One thing I can say about Canada - very few, if any, > poisonous snakes, except for rattlesnakes in some > areas! > Plus - up there, if you were forced to parachute out of a plane and you happened to land in a lake, I bet the likelyhood of there being alligators waiting to greet you is pretty minimal. :P Em ps the spelling of thanksgiving in the subject line reminds me of how my old spanish speaking great grandmother used to pronounce it - something like "sangs-heeby". This is the same great grandmother who, when my younger cousin ran around with a cape said "ay mira, alli va SuperMarket!" (look there goes SuperMarket, [instead of "Superman"]) And this is the same great grandmother who's face greets me more and more each day when I look in the mirror. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:12:25 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: RE : Anita O'Day - njc + betty comden betty comden just died, too. she and adolph green wrote the books and often the lyrics for some of the best musicals on stage and screen ever, especially 'on the town' and 'the bandwagon'. green died 4 years ago, and they both had very full and long professional and personal lives, but i can't help but feel the loss, because they gave so much. songs they wrote: new york, new york (the helluva town version, not the start spreadin the news version) make someone happy the party's over patrick np - keane, broken toy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Joseph Palis Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:15 PM To: jon i Subject: RE : Anita O'Day - njc Sad to hear this. Anita O'Day would have to be one of the very last jazz singers of her kind (thankfully Lena Horne, Ernestine Anderson, Sheila Jordan, Chris Connor and Annie Ross are still with us). Although I had major issues with O'Day's last album "Indestructible" (but more for the people who insist on cashing on in her legend), I agree that she is one of the jazz world's overtly feminist musicians. Not only for insisting that she wear the same clothes worn by musicians and not the usual ball gown worn by "girl canaries" of that period. I will forever think of her rapid-fire version of "Tea for Two" (which was widely copied) and "Sing Sing Sing" when I think of her. I will definitely play a track featuring her one-of-a-kind voice later on in the show as tribute. Here's a moment of silence to those who recently passed away: Ruth Brown and Robert Altman. Joseph in (sunny) Chapel Hill np: Diana Krall - "Devil May Care" "Gerald A. Notaro" a icrit : She was often mentioned on the list, most likely because she was such an innovator. She has died at age 87. I didn't know she was referred to as the Jezebel of Jazz because of her wild behavior and heroin and alcohol addictions. Jerry, who NEVER shops the day after Thanksgiving - --------------------------------- Dicouvrez une nouvelle fagon d'obtenir des riponses ` toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expiriences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Riponses. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:37:23 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: RE : njc + betty comden It's a hell of a town! Simpsons fans take note - --- patrick leader wrote: > betty comden just died, too. she and adolph green > wrote the books and often > the lyrics for some of the best musicals on stage > and screen ever, [...] songs they wrote: > > new york, new york (the helluva town version, not > the start spreadin the > news version) which gave rise to a Simpsons' song: Springfield, Springfield Springfield, Springfield! It's a hell of a town! The schoolyard's up and the shopping mall's down! The stray dogs go to the animal pound! Springfield, Springfield! Springfield, Springfield! [Sailor] New York, New York! New York is that-a-way, man [Sailor] Thanks, kid It's a hell of a town! This and more Simpsons' musical lyrics, including one of my favourites, "Who needs the Kwik-E Mart?" can be found here: http://www.tarnish.net/simpsons/ Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:35:48 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: RE: RE : Anita O'Day - njc + betty comden fare thee well, 20th century, fare thee well. Its getting more and more "gone" with each of these passings. Another fairly recent passing, Marijohn Wilkin, who was a Nashville songwriter. http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/articles/2006/10/29/songwriter_marijohn_wilkin_dies_at_86/?rss_id=Boston.com+%2F+A%26E+%2F+Celebrity+news Em - --- patrick leader wrote: > betty comden just died, too. she and adolph green wrote the books > and often > the lyrics for some of the best musicals on stage and screen ever, > especially 'on the town' and 'the bandwagon'. green died 4 years > ago, and > they both had very full and long professional and personal lives, but > i > can't help but feel the loss, because they gave so much. songs they > wrote: > > new york, new york (the helluva town version, not the start spreadin > the > news version) > make someone happy > the party's over > > patrick > > np - keane, broken toy > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Joseph Palis > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:15 PM > To: jon i > Subject: RE : Anita O'Day - njc > > > Sad to hear this. Anita O'Day would have to be one of the very last > jazz > singers of her kind (thankfully Lena Horne, Ernestine Anderson, > Sheila > Jordan, Chris Connor and Annie Ross are still with us). > > Although I had major issues with O'Day's last album > "Indestructible" (but > more for the people who insist on cashing on in her legend), I agree > that > she is one of the jazz world's overtly feminist musicians. Not only > for > insisting that she wear the same clothes worn by musicians and not > the usual > ball gown worn by "girl canaries" of that period. > > I will forever think of her rapid-fire version of "Tea for Two" > (which was > widely copied) and "Sing Sing Sing" when I think of her. I will > definitely > play a track featuring her one-of-a-kind voice later on in the show > as > tribute. > > Here's a moment of silence to those who recently passed away: Ruth > Brown > and Robert Altman. > > Joseph in (sunny) Chapel Hill > np: Diana Krall - "Devil May Care" > > "Gerald A. Notaro" a icrit : > She was often mentioned on the list, most likely because she was > such an > innovator. She has died at age 87. I didn't know she was referred to > as > the Jezebel of Jazz because of her wild behavior and heroin and > alcohol > addictions. > > Jerry, who NEVER shops the day after Thanksgiving > > > > --------------------------------- > Dicouvrez une nouvelle fagon d'obtenir des riponses ` toutes vos > questions > ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expiriences des > internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Riponses. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:45:32 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving now scary animals - --- Em wrote: > Plus - up there, if you were forced to parachute out > of a plane and you > happened to land in a lake, I bet the likelyhood of > there being > alligators waiting to greet you is pretty minimal. > :P Yes, there is a good side to everything! > ps the spelling of thanksgiving in the subject line > reminds me of how > my old spanish speaking great grandmother used to > pronounce it - > something like "sangs-heeby". > This is the same great grandmother who, when my > younger cousin ran > around with a cape said "ay mira, alli va > SuperMarket!" > (look there goes SuperMarket, [instead of > "Superman"]) > And this is the same great grandmother who's face > greets me more and > more each day when I look in the mirror. > That is so cute. I'm afraid to look at myself in the mirror because, every time I do, there's another chin and somehow my hair has turned to straw! And speaking of accents, it's really funny how some things turn out in English as a second language (and I can only imagine how I murderlize other languages!). Come to think of it, even English-speakers often don't get it right. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:51:59 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: NJC about joni and getting personal and the rest of it Our Oddmund shared: And Musik Meister Muller replied: It happens to all of us, Oddmund - so don't feel badly and keep writing. I treasure all of your posts and like the hundreds of others on the list I read everything, and of course I do my fair share of replying. And of course you know that Ms. Patti is flip-city for you. **** Ha! Darn right! Good choice of Joni words, mi amigo. Oddmund is "my special angel". (Oops! Moldie oldie!) And you know there may be more (special angels, I mean.) I'm kind of amazed (maybe I'm amazed) at the way you remember my being flip-city for Oddmund. Good memory! This list is so rich that is it impossible to reply to everyone, all the time. We don't have unlimited free time and most of us have jobs and stuff to keep us busy. I am on digest....I read almost everything, as intently as time and good fortune allow, but then I have to go to work or out somewhere and then another one comes along and some just get lost in time (out on some borderline?). If I got the *individual posts* I would probably do nothing but reply to them all the live-long day. Each one is precious in its own way. I tend to post a lot of personal stuff (Who, me? lol...) and sometimes afterwards say to myself: "Oh, merde, Patti! WHY did you share that?" but I then I hear Sherelle's voice (in my heart and mind) in that French barangrill in NYC saying: "Just be who you are!" and then I feel better. (Merci, Strawberry Fields Sister!) But back to Oddmund. When you first posted, dear, it was like Cat Stevens/Jusuf Islam's new song (which is playing in my head constantly these days): The moment you walked inside my door I knew that I need not look no more I've seen many other souls before -- ah but Heaven must've programmd you The moment you fell inside my dreams I realized all I had not seen I've seen many other souls before -- ah but Heaven must've programmed you. Oh, will you? Will you? Will you? (keep posting) I go where true love goes I go where true love goes I go where true love goes I go where true love goes LOL....is that "flip-city" enough for you? And in this context, you can say that "heaven" = SIQUOMB. And "true love" means "Joni-love"/appreciation. "To know someone with whom you can feel there is understanding in spite of distance or thoughts unexpressed....that can make this life a garden." - -- Goethe Joni-love (and the JMDL) is some semblance of a garden, I think. Here is Oddmund's first post (or one of the first) that set my JMOCDed soul free: Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:02:10 +0100 (CET) From: Oddmund Kaarevik <1. okaarevik@yahoo.no> Subject: A question about love As I said on the list the other day I have developed this (bad) habit of quoting Joni at all times. Especially when I like someone, when I am in love, I quote her, then often to state the unsucessfulnes of my love-project. So I was wondering does loving Jonis music lead to less luck in love? Anyway I always end of by quoting "Don't give yourself away" for myself. My love-life would surely be much more succesful listening to easy happy-go lucky Britney Spears / Justin music. Then I would just conqueer both the dance-floor and the rest of world as well. Or listening to Madonna. Yeah! ******** Court and SPARK! I almost did not have the time to reply, but then I did, because I just HAD to. You see, that was when I first came out of the Joni closet with my JMOCD. I believe it was then that I first used this expression, and felt free to unleash all the JM spirit that's inside of me. Not to bore the old-timers here, but for the newcomers (welcome all!), and to reassure Oddmund, here is my reply to him, even though its rather raw and unpolished JMOCD, but hey, it was my first time. It's always a little awkward the first time, non? Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:09:42 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Joni Mitchell Obsessive Compulsive Disorder Greetings, Oddmund! You have a bad habit of quoting Joni? My, what a curious problem, and how funny that you should end up HERE! You are in the right place: the JMOCDSG (Joni Mitchell Obsessive Compulsive Disorder Support Group) (that's for you, Catherine dear!), more popularly known as the JMDL. I am similarly afflicted.  I can't seem to have a conversation with friends or family without quoting Joni, and lately it is even spilling over into my work life. Example: one day my department head asked me how many Spanish majors we currently have (I work in a university) . I answered: Fifty-seven, and you know there may be more, as I smiled mischievously and winked. David knows me well and reads me like a book, so he said: Yeah, well? What's so funny about that? I answered: Thats a line from a Joni Mitchell song. He smiled, humoring me, and joked: Well? Are you going to sing it? I said: Nah, you wouldnt get it. (Poor David. He is a great guy, but he just doesnt get Joni...he won't even try. I'm workin on him though, believe me! Someday.....) JMOCD has, to my knowledge, no cure. I imagine that it is treatable by staying off of this list and stopping listening to her music, but that is hard to do when there are so many covers out there. She's out there more than you think. I know *** I *** see something of Joni EVERYWHERE just at this moment of the world (not that Im obsessed or anything -- it's just that I live in flip city, shooby doo bop!). If you ever need a quick fix or help with an exact quote, its just a click away at: http://www.jmdl.com/lyrics/index.cfm (bookmark it now!). Its a warm arrangement. So, welcome new friend from Norway.....I hope you have a wonderful time here! (speaking of having a wonderful time -- Emiliano!!! Where ARE you? I need your confidence baby, and the gift of your extra time.) My ever-lovin' best to you all, (as in: "So here's to you May your skies be blue And your love blessed That's my best to you"), Patti P.S. And your question about love and quoting Joni? Wow. The age-old question remains unanswered: is it better to have loved and lost (with Joni), or never to have loved (with Joni) at all? In my experience, quoting Joni while in love is a very dangerous fuel on the fire kind of thing. Especially when you BOTH do it. It is a powerful additive to hot hot blazes because, as you know, love can already be sooooooooooooo sweeeeeeet on its own (what with those deep kisses and the sun going down and all). But THEN, when you realize it was all probably (?) just pretty lies and it all comes down in smoke and ash, it makes the end MUCH harder to bear because it was so intense. When you've gone and lost the best baby you ever had, the medicine that was love turns to poison and it runs underneath your skin and all through your circuits like a heartbeat and you wind up cracking and your whole life goes dismal. (But don't worry about me  Ill be fine. Ill take a lesson in survival and let the wind carry me back to court and spark and solid love.) Bon weekend, everyone! Pardon my Friday afternoon punch drunk silliness....I'll re-read this Monday and wonder what the #%* was I thinking, to post such inanities! That was the End of JMDL Digest V2005 #102 ***************************** Okay lovies, it's a nice day off here in New England, so I should be DOING things instead of sitting here writing to you all day. Yes, I need to clean out my vehicle which is still littered with Lamont signs and placards and pins and stuff. If anyone wants a pin or anything for historical purposes, let me know. He sparked the pre-election anti-war discussion and for that I am ever grateful. What a man. Did I tell you how he, on election day, still using his own money, had a campaign worker in my district buy out every single rain poncho in the local hardware store to keep us pollstanders dry in the rain? Just a small example of how compassionate he really is. Do you think Creeperman would have done that with all his Republican money? Ha. All *his* pollstanders were PAID. *We* were volunteers. (NPIMH: Candles in the Rain by Melanie, and then Volunteers of America by....Jefferson Airplane?) Oops...shooby doo-bop....I digress encore une fois. Pardonnez-moi. Bon longue weekend, tout le Joni monde! Love, Patti P. P.S. Ingrid, dear: I send you gentle waves of peace and comfort. _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:00:30 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving now scary animals - --- Catherine McKay wrote: > I'm afraid to look at myself in the > mirror because, every time I do, there's another chin > and somehow my hair has turned to straw! I hear ya. But its probably not as bad as we think. I'm thinking its kinda like when I use to be afraid to look in the mirror back in the day when tripping on acid or 'shrooms.....might see something scary with eyes bugging out and ears doing twirlies! Buts its not really there.... We have the women's mirror form hell at work. Its just the perfect flourescent bulb to make one look totally like caca. Lets put it this way, you could be Natalie Portman or Angelie J and still look BAD in that thing. EVERY pore and every suggestion of a hair shows and somehow "enhanced". If you sit there and watch the women coming out, you can see they all have boo-boo faces. I know why - its not that they all have hemmorhoids, its that damn mirror. :) Em ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:11:00 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving now scary animals Speaking of alligators, during my stay in Florida, it was on the news that an alligator had snatched up someone's dog while they were walking them near a pond at the park. The man said it happened so quickly there was nothing he could do...how terrible is that?!? And I have to say I was pretty nervous while kayaking down 7 miles of the Weeki Wachee spring fed river! lol Hi Jimmy! Thank goodness we only bumped into to a few sea cows :0) oh and cypress trees....I'm a pro at it now. rosie doing laundry in nj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 19:16:23 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Amma and "Darshan, The Embrace" Okay, so I'm dawdling today. It's a good day for than, non? I went to check out the newpapaper before going out to clean my car, and was captured by this movie review. Has anyone heard of this woman Amma, or this movie about her? Sounds like my cup of tea for the Tillerman! She sounds like the perfect antidote for all the bad stuff going on in the world. Now that I think of it, I saw the preview/trailer for this before the "U.S. vs. John Lennon" movie (which I really really enjoyed). "Bed peace"....I hadn't remembered that poster over John and Yoko's bed. Marianne, will you make me one? Muller, should people put this poster over their beds for December 22nd's orgasms for peace? Love again, Patti P. Here's the review: Documentary Embraces Joy, Peace November 24, 2006 By MICHAEL WILMINGTON, CHICAGO TRIBUNE Spirituality can come in unusual human forms. The subject of the documentary "Darshan, The Embrace" is a plump, smiling, simply dressed 50ish woman named Sri Mata Amritanandamayi Devi, known more popularly as "Amma." Born into poverty in southern India in 1953, Amma has become world famous as a peace activist, a winner of the Gandhi-King Award for Nonviolence (other recipients include Nelson Mandela and Jane Goodall) and as the head of numerous anti-poverty and relief programs. Most of all though, she's known for her specialty: hugging or "darshan." If there are world records for hugging people, Amma must surely own them all. In a country where single women are notoriously reticent about physical contact with strangers, Amma is estimated to have hugged or embraced 33 million people, and on one memorable occasion, supposedly more than 45,000 in a day. Seated on a chair in her ashram or in outside halls and stadiums, her face wreathed in a rapturous smile, speaking softly to everyone who approaches her in long ritual lines, Amma enfolds each petitioner in a great warming embrace, after which they're inevitably beaming themselves. It might be easy to get cynical about Amma and her hugging - or to see the film as somehow connected to her recent U.S. tour (which ended in July) - if she weren't also such a tireless and effective spiritual and social leader. Amma, who has several times addressed the United Nations, is the founder of programs that provide housing, school building, tree planting, free hospitals and relief for the victims of the 2004 tsunami and Hurricane Katrina. When Amma tells us that, at the sight of the horrible poverty around her as a girl, "I wanted to die in fire and pain," one believes her. We also believe her when she says she "sees God in everyone" (she welcomes all faiths), sternly advises one keeper on the proper diet for his elephant ("no sweets!") or calls for everyone, everywhere to stop and take one minute to pray for peace. Jan Kounen, the maker of "Darshan," is a French director with flashy credentials, including music videos, commercials, horror shorts, violent gangster movies ("Dobermann") and offbeat westerns ("Blueberry"). He has quite an eye. One surprise about "Darshan" is how many beautiful images it contains - not just the shots of Anna's hugfests but the occasional overhead views of the cities (Calcutta, Benares and others); the drifting shots of crowded buildings along the Ganges; and the image of another elephant immersed in water, trunk rising like a dark snake . All these visions reinforce the theme of the film: the spirit-drenched world of love and peace that stands in contrast to the outer world's suffering and injustice. But Amma is above all a practical mystic; vague about theology, she explains that her religion is simply love for everyone of every faith. She's also practical in her teachings. At one point, she says, "As our TV screens get bigger, our hearts get smaller," a sentiment easy to share. You may walk away from "Darshan," if it moves you at all, smiling yourself. After all, we could all use a hug. DARSHAN: THE EMBRACE is an IFC First Take release directed by Jan Kounen from his script with Mauel De La Roche. Running time: 93 minutes. Not rated. English subtitles. Opens today at Real Art Ways in Hartford. P.S. to Mary: Let's go! Hey honey, I got lots of cash.... _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:42:47 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving now scary animals Funny..Em.. and you are so right. Lighting is everything..angles. I've heard we all have masculine profiles on one side..the least attractive for a women that is...and a more prettier..womanly profile on the other side. What about those round magnifying mirrors they have in some hotel room bathrooms? Horrible! I try not to look. Bree >We have the women's mirror form hell at work. Its just the perfect >flourescent bulb to make one look totally like caca. >Lets put it this way, you could be Natalie Portman or Angelie J and >still look BAD in that thing. >EVERY pore and every suggestion of a hair shows and somehow "enhanced". >If you sit there and watch the women coming out, you can see they all >have boo-boo faces. >I know why - its not that they all have hemmorhoids, its that damn >mirror. >:) >Em _________________________________________________________________ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmemailtaglinenov06&FORM=WLMTAG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:02:14 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: I'm in the cast!(njc) Congratulations Victor!!! That's great news! Sherelle Victor wrote: I just found out today I got a part in a musical show we're doing at GSU in the spring, Side by Side by Sondheim, a review of Stephen Sondheim. I don't know any of his songs (except for Send in the Clowns) so I will have to learn them but I'm looking forward to it. I've always thought I'd enjoy doing broadway. Any Sondheim fans out there? Patrick, Jerry? Victor _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:05:26 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: sjc? Re: General Hospital - Both Sides NowAt Last Still reading the news and ignoring my chores, I saw this: "If you missed last week's "General Hospital" remarriage on the anniversary of the original ceremony on the highest-rated soap opera episode ever, there is the commemorative "Luke & Laura 25: Something Old, Something New" (SoapNet, 7 p.m.) on tonight." Bobsart told us about two Joni songs on these episodes. Not having seen GH in about 28 years (ah, all the hope and the hopelessness I've not witnessed in thirty years....lol) I tuned in Wednesday to check it out. Oh, how sad! Poor Laura went catatonic or whatever again, and had to leave the love of her life, Luke, and her three children (wow....she had three children since I last saw it many dim years ago?). "Just when you're thinking, you've finally got it made...." It was very sad. But alas, no Joni this time. There was music about an angel, but I didn't recognize the the artist. For what it's worth to anyone.....just to hear Joni on my TV is always a treat for me. xo, pp, who really must get off the computer! >From: Bobsart48@aol.com >To: loveuconn@hotmail.com, jle1129@hotmail.com, joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: General Hospital - Both Sides NowAt Last >Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:57:05 EST > >I originally posted: > >"My wife has watched GH for over 30 years, I think. Yesterday, after Luke >and Laura got remarried (again ? I dunno), they walked to the idyllic >gazebo >to >At Last (Joni's cover), which continued to be played throughout as the >scene >shifted back and forth from the reception to the tete a tete. Another tip >of >the hat to Joni, IMO." > >And Patti P replied (in rather small part): > >"I've got to share this email with my best friend Janis (we met in 1975 >and >instantaneously bonded/spontaneously combusted over Joni....magnet & iron, >the Joni souls). She used to watch GH, too. Maybe she'll remember. >Thanks, Bob. And tell your wife: "Luke and Laura forever!" " > >Well, today's episode closed with Both Sides Now from the same album (at >least, the first two verses), as the inner feelings of the protagonists >were >being scanned. I do think that the orchestral version of BSN is really >beautiful, and brings out the song as Joni (here outdoing Mabel Mercer) >really >conceived it. > >Bobsart > _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:39:51 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC a poetry day on the list Dear all! I have an idea.... Somehow, Oddmunds email made me think of this. A suggestion for a break-off of the daily routine on the list, a kind of spring-cleaning and all-come-together event. A day when everyone discusses the same thing in the same style. How about having a poetry day on the list? With rules. It could be a haiku day, or a day when all postings would have to rhyme and contain five lines only, or should be singable to some joni tune. The subject could be limited to something like "A Joni moment". Or, if people wanted a wider range and wanted to continue on-going discussions, the title of the poem would have to be the name of an album or song. Let me know what you think! I think it might be fun... Yours, Bene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:54:27 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njc, Amma and "Darshan, The Embrace" Well, sure - it's a logical progression from Beds for Peace to Orgasms for Peace, right? I liked your story about the hug queen - hugs rule. We're supposed to get like 10-15 a day, or something like that. It's gotten more and more difficult for me to get them all in, what with the neighbors all getting those restarining orders and such. Bob NP: Counting Crows, "Einstein On The Beach" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:05:20 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC about joni and getting personal and the rest of it vljc - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > Our Oddmund shared: > > insecure - when I write > something > personal - and nobody answers...> > > And Musik Meister Muller replied: > > It happens to all of us, Oddmund - so don't > feel badly and keep writing. I treasure all of your > posts and like the > hundreds of others on the list I read everything, > and of course I do my fair > share of replying. And of course you know that Ms. > Patti is flip-city for > you. > > **** > and then Patti P replied: > This list is so rich that is it impossible to reply > to everyone, all the > time. .... If I got the *individual posts* I > would probably do nothing > but reply to them all the live-long day. Oh yeah. Been there - done that! I still get individual posts because I find it easier to read them than if I had to pick through a digest list - plus I can weed out all the stuff about American politics first! > I tend to post a lot of personal stuff (Who, > me? lol...) and > sometimes afterwards say to myself: "Oh, merde, > Patti! WHY did you share > that?" to which I add my own "Amen." But some of us never learn, do we? > But back to Oddmund. When you first posted, dear, > it was like Cat > Stevens/Jusuf Islam's new song (which is playing in > my head constantly these > days): > > The moment you walked inside my door > I knew that I need not look no more > I've seen many other souls before -- ah but > Heaven must've programmd you did you buy the CD, or were you listening on his website? Just wondering if anyone has bought it and if they like it. I will buy it anyway, or ask the kids to get it for me for Christmas, but am wondering about people's opinions. I always loved that song and it's cool to hear it re-worked with some new lyrics after all these years. (I think some of the lyrics ahve been changed, but dang! now I'm not so sure). It's kind of like hearing Joan rework her old stuff on BSN and/or Travelogue - some love it, some hate it, but it's interesting to me to hear someone reflecting back with the wisdom of age, or just with age and no wisdom whatsoever, on what they thought about and words they wrote when they were young. It sort of adds a patina. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:08:24 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving now scary animals - --- Em wrote: > We have the women's mirror form hell at work. Its > just the perfect > flourescent bulb to make one look totally like caca. > > Lets put it this way, you could be Natalie Portman > or Angelie J and > still look BAD in that thing. > EVERY pore and every suggestion of a hair shows and > somehow "enhanced". I've noticed that about change rooms in department stores. You take some clothes in to try them on, then have a look in the mirror and you can tell what you'd look like as a zombie. Not a pretty sight! and I wonder why they do that. Aren't you more likely to buy something if you look in the mirror and look (more or less - it's relative!) good? or at least not dead yet? Or maybe I really am that pasty-looking! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:13:07 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc, Amma and "Darshan, The Embrace" - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > Has anyone heard of this woman Amma, or this movie > about her? I've heard of her. I'm sure she was in Toronto a year or so ago. They had her on TV and in the papers, hugging people and so on. She is considered to be a saint. From one of the web-pages devoted to her, I find this quote - and it works for me! "Everyone in the world should be able to sleep without fear, at least for one night. Everyone should be able to eat to his fill, at least for one day. There should be at least one day when hospitals see no one admitted due to violence. By doing selfless service for at least one day, everyone should help the poor and needy. It is Amma's prayer that at least this small dream be realised." Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:16:45 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC a poetry day on the list I think that's a great idea but is it really NJC? We've done stuff like that before, but it sort of came up organically, out of something someone said that prompted someone to write something. We've had spoofs of Joni songs, the Joni thesaurus (where you would take the words of Joni songs but use a synonym in place of what she actually said) and so on. I like your idea! - --- missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > Dear all! I have an idea.... > > Somehow, Oddmunds email made me think of this. A > suggestion for a > break-off of the daily routine on the list, a kind > of spring-cleaning > and all-come-together event. A day when everyone > discusses the same > thing in the same style. > > How about having a poetry day on the list? With > rules. It could be a > haiku day, or a day when all postings would have to > rhyme and contain > five lines only, or should be singable to some joni > tune. The subject > could be limited to something like "A Joni moment". > Or, if people > wanted a wider range and wanted to continue on-going > discussions, the > title of the poem would have to be the name of an > album or song. > > Let me know what you think! I think it might be > fun... > > Yours, > > Bene > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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