From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #444 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, November 24 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 444 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: I'm in the cast! (njc) ["mike pritchard" ] Re: I'm in the cast!(njc) ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: victor's in the cast!(njc) now sondheim the genius ["Jenny Goodspeed"] Thankfulness for COVERS! [Bob Muller ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #442 [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: "Love", the 'new' Beatles album from George Martin, njc [Bob Muller <] Fw: Sorry: new Music site discoverd with address this time [Andeemac2006 ] Re: victor's in the cast!(njc) now sondheim the genius [Dflahm@aol.com] NJC igest V2006 #442 [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] Re: NJC igest V2006 #442 [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: NJC igest V2006 #442 [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] this afternoon [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] joni [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] NJC about joni and getting personal and the rest of it ["Oddmund Kaarevik] njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] NJCRe: NJC about joni and getting personal and the rest of it [Ingrid Loc] Re: NJC igest V2006 #442 [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] RE: Joanna Newsom (NJC) ["Azeem" ] Re: NJC igest V2006 #442 [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] thabnksgiving [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] RE: Joanna Newsom (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving and the baltic states and compound words [missblux@g] Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving [Catherine McKay ] RE: thabnksgiving NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] tofurkey njc [Deb Messling ] Re: NJC about joni and getting personal and the rest of it [Bob Muller ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:26:26 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: RE: I'm in the cast! (njc) Victor wrote: >>I just found out today I got a part in a musical show we're doing at GSU in the spring, Side by Side by Sondheim, a review of Stephen Sondheim.<< Congratulations Victor, I was thinking about you today when Mark-Leon added David Sylvian as his NP. That makes three of us. Any more Sylvian fans on the list? I'm also intrigued by the 'Barcelona' song. What show is that from and why did SS write a song about the city where I live? mike in barcelona np Tom Waits - The Road to Peace Song List: Comedy Tonight: Company Love is in the Air: Company Pretty Lady: Victor, Katie, Andrea Send in the Clowns: Heather Witt Another Hundred People: Jamilla Company: Company Barcelona: Andrea, Justin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 07:30:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: I'm in the cast!(njc) Big Sondheim fan here Victor. I've seen the show many times. He is the genius of our Broadway age. And Victor, you've earned your card! Jerry :) P.S. If you do Gypsy you get the toaster oven. Victor Johnson wrote: > I just found out today I got a part in a musical show we're doing at > GSU in the spring, Side by Side by Sondheim, a review of Stephen > Sondheim. I don't know any of his songs (except for Send in the > Clowns) so I will have to learn them but I'm looking forward to it. > I've always thought I'd enjoy doing broadway. Any Sondheim fans out > there? Patrick, Jerry? > > Victor > > NP: GA Tech vs. UCLA > > > > > Song List: > Comedy Tonight: Company > Love is in the Air: Company > Pretty Lady: Victor, Katie, Andrea > Send in the Clowns: Heather Witt > Another Hundred People: Jamilla > Company: Company > Barcelona: Andrea, Justin > Being Alive: Justin > A Boy Like That/I Have A Love: Melanie, Joan > Gee Officer Krumpkee: Matt, Victor, Justin > Beautiful Girls: Matt > Broadway Baby: Melanie > Could I Leave You? : Justin > Losing My Mind: Heather Witt > The Little Things You Do Together: Matt, Katie > Marry Me A Little: Victor > I Feel Pretty: Andrea > Maria: Matt > The Boy From : Katie > If Momma Were Married: Melanie, Andrea > Anyone Can Whistle: Victor > You Could Drive A Person Crazy: Melanie, Katie, Andrea > Getting Married Today: Jamilla, Kim, Justin > Side-By-Side: All ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 08:46:47 -0500 From: "Jenny Goodspeed" Subject: Re: victor's in the cast!(njc) now sondheim the genius Count me in as a huge Sondheim fan. Marry Me a Little is one of my favorites. Congrats Victor! It's so funny, I woke up this morning singing songs from Sunday in the Park... Nice to read a Sondheim love thread. He's a genius - lyrically and musically. Just like someone else we all love. Patrick, a belated congrats to you for singing at Carnegie Hall. It's so great that you are sharing your gifts. Love, Jenny On 11/23/06, patrick leader wrote: > > victor- > > >I just found out today I got a part in a musical show we're doing at > GSU in the spring, Side by Side by Sondheim, > > this is great news! yes, jerry and i are big sondheim queens; roberto > holliston is another huge fan. i'm very excited for you, and the songs > you > get to sing. 'marry me a little' was a song written for 'company' that > wasn't used for the show; it's just a beautiful, bittersweet song, one of > my > all time favorites. i'm sure you will adore singing it. > > it looks like there are five songs from 'west side story', which is > actually > music by leonard bernstein, lyrics by sondheim. if by any chance you've > never seen the movie of west side story (could that even be possible?!) i > do > strongly suggest you rent it soon. #41 on the american film institute's > list of greatest movies of all time, #2 on the musicals list. > > all the other songs are music and lyrics by sondheim. > > i've made a zip file for you of most of the songs you're involved in (if > anyone else wants a taste of sondheim, feel free to download) it's here. > > > > the version of side by side is the medley from the original recording of > 'company', i have no idea what they did with it in the review you're > doing. > there's a great video/dvd of the making of the 'company' original cast > recording, directed by d.a. pennebaker. probably can netflix that. > > man, keep us posted on this! here's what shows these songs were > originally > in... > > comedy tonight a funny thing happened on the way to the forum > love is in the air forum (original opening, cut) > pretty lady i don't know this song > send in the clowns a little night music > another hundred people company > company company > barcelona company > being alive company > a boy like that/i have a love west side story > gee officer krupke west side story > beautiful girls follies > broadway baby follies > could i leave you? follies > losing my mind follies > the little things you do together company > marry me a little company (original ending, cut) > i feel pretty west side story > maria west side story > the boy from i don't know this song > if momma were married gypsy > anyone can whistle anyone can whistle > you could drive a person crazy company > getting married today company > side-by-side company (or side by side by sondheim) > > best wishes, > > patrick > > np - marry me a little, michael rupert (from 'putting it together', a > later > sondheim review) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Victor Johnson > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:22 PM > To: JMDL List > Subject: I'm in the cast!(njc) > > > I just found out today I got a part in a musical show we're doing at > GSU in the spring, Side by Side by Sondheim, a review of Stephen > Sondheim. I don't know any of his songs (except for Send in the > Clowns) so I will have to learn them but I'm looking forward to it. > I've always thought I'd enjoy doing broadway. Any Sondheim fans out > there? Patrick, Jerry? > > Victor > > NP: GA Tech vs. UCLA > > > > > Song List: > Comedy Tonight: Company > Love is in the Air: Company > Pretty Lady: Victor, Katie, Andrea > Send in the Clowns: Heather Witt > Another Hundred People: Jamilla > Company: Company > Barcelona: Andrea, Justin > Being Alive: Justin > A Boy Like That/I Have A Love: Melanie, Joan > Gee Officer Krumpkee: Matt, Victor, Justin > Beautiful Girls: Matt > Broadway Baby: Melanie > Could I Leave You? : Justin > Losing My Mind: Heather Witt > The Little Things You Do Together: Matt, Katie > Marry Me A Little: Victor > I Feel Pretty: Andrea > Maria: Matt > The Boy From : Katie > If Momma Were Married: Melanie, Andrea > Anyone Can Whistle: Victor > You Could Drive A Person Crazy: Melanie, Katie, Andrea > Getting Married Today: Jamilla, Kim, Justin > Side-By-Side: All > > [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which > had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:25:03 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Thankfulness for COVERS! As the Grand Poobah of Joni covers, I am thankful every time I hear of a new one, and I have had LOTS to be thankful for in 2006. Sometime soon I will celebrate BSN #500! In other BIG cover news, Big Yellow Taxi's latest Joni tribute is now available on I-tunes. The CD has been out for a while, and of course if you missed that news originally you can go hear samples and pick it up here: http://cdbaby.com/cd/bigyellowtaxi3 (Among the many attributes that make it a special CD, Henning & Christina have recorded (3) Joni tunes that she never released.) Anyway, if you were waiting for the CD to show up as a download, the wait is over and you can get the whole album (13 tracks) for $9.99 or your pick of the tracks for .99 each: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=206095 243 Henning has been a busy fellow - besides working on a solo CD, he plays the guitar on "Big Yellow taxi" in a new film called "Cabbie" and on "Both sides,now" on an upcoming album from Penelope Smith. And you know...there may be more. He deserves our support, so go check it out. Bob Beck, "Think I'm In Love" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:30:46 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #442 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:03:25 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: NJC I don't knwo if my previouss message has gone through. But i am not toltaaly reconciled to being my parent's child. but I'm going to see if I can organnize thinsg to attend the Joni fest next year, at the full moon, or the blue moon. whatever. - -------------------- Hey, I dont think they got through, we seem to be missing out on something! Are you NOW totally reconciled to being your parents' child, or are you NOT totally reconciled....? Bene ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:32:19 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: "Love", the 'new' Beatles album from George Martin, njc I really have been enjoying them, Jim - some of the CD's I've played sound so different that I feel like I'm hearing them for the first time. It's fun to crank them up when I have the chance and rock out or to turn it down and hear all the nuances. Now I'm wondering if I should replace my Receiver (from 1980) with a nicer amplifier. It's not like I need the tuner, and a little more wattage might push even more audio clarity through these speakers. Bob NP: John Townshend, "The Circle Game" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:56:28 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Andeemac2006 Subject: Fw: Sorry: new Music site discoverd with address this time OOps I forgot to add the site >I have found this site which has some fine live music, amazing quality http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/Artists.aspx?s=OTHER >a great Sprinsteen concert, a fine Judy Collins concert singing L Cohen >and of course the Dylan Rolling Thunder recordings with Joni Playing, oh!! what a treasure trove >Its in an unusual Flash format but I think its very Unique, you may have to have >Broadband or a fast Internet connection for it to stream. Any one know about tbe latest on these Special editions of three Joni albums including " Hejira" with extra disk?? seen them on a web site as coming out in January 2007. I wish we could put this one to bed Its tantilising me to think of this extra disk!!!!!!!!! LOL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:01:17 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: victor's in the cast!(njc) now sondheim the genius "The Boy From..." is a revue song, words by SS, music by Mary Rodgers. It's a send-up of "The Girl From Ipanema" and was written during the bossa nova invasion of the early 1960s. The lyric even begins "Tall and tan and..." I believe he wrote a song called "Pretty Women " but I never heard of "Pretty Girl" DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 08:22:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: NJC igest V2006 #442 I'll just be a child of the Goddess. That suits me best. How are you? have you been working at work today? From Me, Myself, I - ----- Original Message ---- From: "missblux@googlemail.com" To: joni@smoe.org; Ingrid Lochrenberg Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 4:30:46 PM Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #442 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:03:25 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: NJC I don't knwo if my previouss message has gone through. But i am not toltaaly reconciled to being my parent's child. but I'm going to see if I can organnize thinsg to attend the Joni fest next year, at the full moon, or the blue moon. whatever. - -------------------- Hey, I dont think they got through, we seem to be missing out on something! Are you NOW totally reconciled to being your parents' child, or are you NOT totally reconciled....? Bene ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 17:48:12 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: NJC igest V2006 #442 Well you knw that we have a Goddess worshipper on the list, Lady Isadora? Sorry if I'm not using the right terminology, I'm not into these things, maybe goddess worshipper is the wrong word. Anyway, yes, well guess I'm OK, I'm working at home, trying to writpe up a PhD, and it's taking about 50 times as long as it should and driving me nuts. Apart from that (which is practically all of my life at the moment) I'm good...! Benedicte On 11/23/06, Ingrid Lochrenberg wrote: > > I'll just be a child of the Goddess. That suits me best. How are you? have > you been working at work today? > From Me, Myself, I > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "missblux@googlemail.com" > To: joni@smoe.org; Ingrid Lochrenberg > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 4:30:46 PM > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #442 > > Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:03:25 -0800 (PST) > From: Ingrid Lochrenberg > Subject: NJC > > I don't knwo if my previouss message has gone through. But i am not > toltaaly > reconciled to being my parent's child. but I'm going to see if I can > organnize > thinsg to attend the Joni fest next year, at the full moon, or the blue > moon. > whatever. > > -------------------- > Hey, > > I dont think they got through, we seem to be missing out on something! Are > you NOW totally reconciled to being your parents' child, or are you NOT > totally reconciled....? > > > Bene ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:28:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: Re: NJC igest V2006 #442 Hey, i'm gonna trya and make it to New York next year March- don't knwo if there will still be ant tickets left- for the Jonifest. i've only beenoverseas three times before, and never on my own. I wonder how it works- how big will the venue be, I wonder.I hope it will be huge. I - ----- Original Message ---- From: "missblux@googlemail.com" To: Ingrid Lochrenberg ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 7:48:12 PM Subject: Re: NJC igest V2006 #442 Well you knw that we have a Goddess worshipper on the list, Lady Isadora? Sorry if I'm not using the right terminology, I'm not into these things, maybe goddess worshipper is the wrong word. Anyway, yes, well guess I'm OK, I'm working at home, trying to writpe up a PhD, and it's taking about 50 times as long as it should and driving me nuts. Apart from that (which is practically all of my life at the moment) I'm good...! Benedicte On 11/23/06, Ingrid Lochrenberg wrote: I'll just be a child of the Goddess. That suits me best. How are you? have you been working at work today? From Me, Myself, I - ----- Original Message ---- From: " missblux@googlemail.com" To: joni@smoe.org; Ingrid Lochrenberg Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 4:30:46 PM Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #442 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:03:25 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg < lochrenbird@yahoo.com> Subject: NJC I don't knwo if my previouss message has gone through. But i am not toltaaly reconciled to being my parent's child. but I'm going to see if I can organnize thinsg to attend the Joni fest next year, at the full moon, or the blue moon. whatever. - -------------------- Hey, I dont think they got through, we seem to be missing out on something! Are you NOW totally reconciled to being your parents' child, or are you NOT totally reconciled....? Bene ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:34:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: this afternoon I saw my psychiatrist today, and after i spoke to her about my decision to not enhance my dosage of anti-psychotic, and showing her my update on her horrorscope, she said that her hands are now tied. So, I'm free! for now... Me ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:41:38 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: joni hey, i wish more people would write in. I'm sitting here with no other thoughts on my mind: but I can tell people love Joni so much they don't know how to even give expression to it. i. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 20:05:36 +0100 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: NJC about joni and getting personal and the rest of it Hi Ingrid ! I am a young norwegian man who has experienced being open and personal about what Joni meant to me - and not getting the response I hoped for on the list. I know that many has appreciated my mails though - but I guess the list's format is kind of superficial. Many people - myself included - read the emails on work, in a hurry or some other stressed situation. So I guess people respond sometimes in their head - - without sending an actual response. I've also learnt that confessional mails on me and Joni might be hard to answer. They're not a question - more a statement. And sometimes difficult to respond to. A year ago I remeber posting something about me and joni and life and all of it - and getting no response ... Then somebody asked about driving in New York - and everybody went on and on and on...Or gas prices. My God ! People all over it... Not getting the comments or the response I've hoped for - has sometimes made me think that - why should I bother - people don't care anyway. But I think people do. They do care. It's just that it's sometimes hard for people to show that they care in a way so that I can understand it. Gradually I've gotten more used to this, I would call it a bit "superficial" format. It's true I send fewer confesional emails about me and joni. But maybe I will again some day. Anyway I've learnt to appreciate the different people on this list. There is a lot quality people hanging around here. And what impresses me the most - is the willingness to share - music - books - - programs- whatever - sending them all the way to Norway. I'm sure they will send it to South Africa too. And I find that to be a very good thing - in a sometimes very cold world But I understand your feelings. I also feel insecure - when I write something personal - and nobody answers... Just some thougts from me Oddmund, Norway ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:41:40 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc just finished making my artichokes. . . now I am going to steam them ont he stove. . Happy thanksgiving everyone! Love to all. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:44:40 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: NJCRe: NJC about joni and getting personal and the rest of it I DO think the people on this list are fantastic...as I say, they love Joni so much they don't know what to do with themselves, and I'm really interested in anything confessional you'd write. iIt's true that when someon makes a statement, it's perhaps difficult to come in sideways and unravel the person behind it- somoene who is alive, and thinking. I think everyone who loves Joni is superby fantastic. and they've been coming up with these links, which I've been going into. Just now when I thought i was going mad perhasp I tuned into Kink stream and the music was enough to drive one nuts- round the bend. it was so strangely horrible and one-dimensional...and then I forget that I can tune it out., and just go quietly mad. but now I've just pistened to Amelia again, averything came right.I tune into music so much that it can derail me, or have the opposite effect. I know people are working As WELL!So maybe I can entertain them a little with my thoughts when there's a gap... Ingrid - ----- Original Message ---- From: Oddmund Kaarevik To: lochrenbird@yahoo.com; joni@smoe.org Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:05:36 PM Subject: NJC about joni and getting personal and the rest of it Hi Ingrid ! I am a young norwegian man who has experienced being open and personal about what Joni meant to me - and not getting the response I hoped for on the list. I know that many has appreciated my mails though - but I guess the list's format is kind of superficial. Many people - myself included - read the emails on work, in a hurry or some other stressed situation. So I guess people respond sometimes in their head - without sending an actual response. I've also learnt that confessional mails on me and Joni might be hard to answer. They're not a question - more a statement. And sometimes difficult to respond to. A year ago I remeber posting something about me and joni and life and all of it - and getting no response ... Then somebody asked about driving in New York - and everybody went on and on and on...Or gas prices. My God ! People all over it... Not getting the comments or the response I've hoped for - has sometimes made me think that - why should I bother - people don't care anyway. But I think people do. They do care. It's just that it's sometimes hard for people to show that they care in a way so that I can understand it. Gradually I've gotten more used to this, I would call it a bit "superficial" format. It's true I send fewer confesional emails about me and joni. But maybe I will again some day. Anyway I've learnt to appreciate the different people on this list. There is a lot quality people hanging around here. And what impresses me the most - is the willingness to share - music - books - programs- whatever - sending them all the way to Norway. I'm sure they will send it to South Africa too. And I find that to be a very good thing - in a sometimes very cold world But I understand your feelings. I also feel insecure - when I write something personal - and nobody answers... Just some thougts from me Oddmund, Norway ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:48:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: Re: NJC igest V2006 #442 they seem to all be judgemental words, hey! why from all those different languages if they are english words- what is the geographical significance? Oh, I'm not religiouss either- I just forgot to send that pantheist post to the list. i don't think they'll mind- I like thinking out aloud here...it helps me channnel someor other whatever. and it's not like we are taking up space... i - ----- Original Message ---- From: "missblux@googlemail.com" To: Ingrid Lochrenberg Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:19:41 PM Subject: Re: NJC igest V2006 #442 Hi! No I haven't had the time to watch the clips, there are certain things I put off until I'm done with the introduction to my diss which I'm trying to finish! The title is: The left-headed compound agent-nouns of Latin, Romance, Germanic, Slavic and Baltic. A study of their origin, morphological make-up and geographical dispersal And since you are a mathematician that probably doesn't ring any bells with you...! I am writing about such compound words as English pickpocket, spoilsport, killjoy, cutpurse, etc. They are kind of 'reversed', and extraordinary, the normal way of forming such stems would be pocketpicker, sportspoiler, joykiller, etc. So I am looking at such word-formatoin patterns in a a series of languages to see what triggers the formations of words like that. Hope that makes some sense.... I've been thinking from time to time to go to the Jonifest as well, but it depends on whether I've submitted my diss, and whether I've got any money, or a job perhaps. Etc. etc.... I don't take offense at anyone's religion because I am not religious myself! Uhm I'm not sure if we are talking on the list or off the list, you decide. I thought maybe off the list because there is a limit to how many emails form the same persons people want to see in one digest.... I don't get the thing with your psichiatrist's horrorscope??? Benedicte ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:52:50 -0000 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: Joanna Newsom (NJC) There was a terrific article in the Guardian about Joanna Newsom a few weeks ago, by Sean O'Hagan [who was once a member of That Petrol Emotion, if anyone remembers them]. It gives you a great picture of the woman (and you may find out you were right, Kate...) and her extraordinary music. The link is below. Azeem in London http://music.guardian.co.uk/folk/story/0,,1929503,00.html - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Kate Bennett Sent: 19 November 2006 19:24 To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Joanna Newsom (NJC) Fascinating, refreshing, enchanting. I hear Rickie Lee Jones & Billie Holliday in her voice quality. Her bio says she grew up in Nevada City, CA. Betcha her parents were hippies. - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/538 - Release Date: 18/11/2006 - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: 22/11/2006 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:25:33 -0600 (CST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: Re: NJC igest V2006 #442 Gee this is interesting. just to clarify "horrorscope"- i really take astrology incredibly seriously...it is a map of the universe, and the horror of it is just the cosmic joke side of it- how hard it can be to get thrugh on teh other side. I study it all to myself, and have my own interpretations. I really love this psychiatrist fo mine. She is magic, an with a magical chart. i cannot believe how interesting it is what you're telling me. i as in the clinic with someone who was in the res nexdtoor to mine at university, but we didn't knwo one another there. But she was telling me how she just dreamt that there'd be a scandinavian man, bestt of allnorwegian , for her someday,. she got married to herslf so as not to be propositioned by the wrong man, on teh train where she travels in england, and all over,. I told her I'm sure she would have such luck. And the email justnow from that sacndinavian guy made me see what she told me. i want to talk on the list, in caes Jjoni drops in! so. keep at that phd...i'm sure you're going to crack it - ----- Original Message - ---- From: "missblux@googlemail.com" To: Ingrid Lochrenberg Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:10:00 PM Subject: Re: NJC igest V2006 #442 You just made a correct observation: words of that type are typically derogatory! I study comparative linguistics, so what I do is to compare languages... And words that are formed in this way are found in a series of European languages, and one of the things I am trying to explain is why they all tend to have quite derogatory meanings. Italian mangia-bambini 'eat-babies', Czech jebi-kobila 'fuck-horse' etc. Some of the languages I know very little about, and many of the words are not in the dicitonaries, so I had to interview native speakers, and they mostly laugh or get red ears when I present them with these words, because they all refer to womanisers, drunkards, liars, misers and so on. The geographicla significance is that it is a word-formatoin pattern that arose in Vulgar Latin, then developed in the Romance languages, and spread from there into English, High German and Slavic, but not Baltic, Low German or Scandinavian because these languages were less connected to the Romance culture in the Middle Ages. I think people on the list are fairly tolerant, you can be whatever you like. I have heard of people being banned from the list, I think that happens when someone begins to stalk someone or gets really vicious. Bn On 11/23/06, Ingrid Lochrenberg wrote: > > they seem to all be judgemental words, hey! why from all those different > languages if they are english words- what is the geographical significance? > Oh, I'm not religiouss either- I just forgot to send that pantheist post to > the list. i don't think they'll mind- I like thinking out aloud here...it > helps me channnel someor other whatever. and it's not like we are taking up > space... > i > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "missblux@googlemail.com" > To: Ingrid Lochrenberg > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:19:41 PM > Subject: Re: NJC igest V2006 #442 > > > Hi! > > No I haven't had the time to watch the clips, there are certain things > I put off until I'm done with the introduction to my diss which I'm > trying to finish! The title is: > > The left-headed compound agent-nouns of Latin, Romance, Germanic, > Slavic and Baltic. A study of their origin, morphological make-up > and geographical dispersal > > And since you are a mathematician that probably doesn't ring any bells > with you...! I am writing about such compound words as English > pickpocket, spoilsport, killjoy, cutpurse, etc. They are kind of > 'reversed', and extraordinary, the normal way of forming such stems > would be pocketpicker, sportspoiler, joykiller, etc. So I am looking > at such word-formatoin patterns in a a series of languages to see what > triggers the formations of words like that. > > Hope that makes some sense.... > > I've been thinking from time to time to go to the Jonifest as well, > but it depends on whether I've submitted my diss, and whether I've got > any money, or a job perhaps. Etc. etc.... > > I don't take offense at anyone's religion because I am not religious myself! > > Uhm I'm not sure if we are talking on the list or off the list, you > decide. I thought maybe off the list because there is a limit to how > many emails form the same persons people want to see in one digest.... > > I don't get the thing with your psichiatrist's horrorscope??? > > Benedicte ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:39:09 -0600 (CST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: thabnksgiving when is it thanksgiving and what is the significance of it amd wher are the baltic states. Where does russian figure in all of these languages i.r.o you interest, cause teh rusians write the most romantic music.I'm thinking of especially my favourute rachmaninov...one cannot get more romantic than that.Or I suppose one can. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 17:45:02 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Joanna Newsom (NJC) - --- Azeem wrote: > There was a terrific article in the Guardian about > Joanna Newsom a few > weeks ago, by Sean O'Hagan [who was once a member of > That Petrol > Emotion, if anyone remembers them]. It gives you a > great picture of the > woman (and you may find out you were right, Kate...) > and her > extraordinary music. The link is below. > > Azeem in London > > http://music.guardian.co.uk/folk/story/0,,1929503,00.html > For anyone who is on Dimeadozen, there's a torrent up there now with Joanna Newsom at Green Man 2005 - this appearance in mentioned in the Guardian article and can be found here: http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=56618 If any of y'all belong to DAD and want to jump on it, the torrent will download faster ;-) It was put up in August, before I had heard of her, so I didn't notice at the time. I'm downloading it now and if the quality sounds decent, I'll offer it to people to share with others. There's another as well that I'm also downloading, from Manchester Academy, April 2005: http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=117654 Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 23:34:16 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving and the baltic states and compound words On 11/23/06, Ingrid Lochrenberg wrote: > > when is it thanksgiving and what is the significance of it amd wher are the > baltic states. Where does russian figure in all of these languages i.r.o you > interest, cause teh rusians write the most romantic music.I'm thinking of > especially my favourute rachmaninov...one cannot get more romantic than > that.Or I suppose one can. > > - ----------------------------------- In case anyone gets confused, Ingrid and I had been talking off-list about my dissertation which is about compound words in Latin and the Romance, Germanic, Slavic and baltic languages. Yes, I do treat a few words in Russian, although I am not really into the Slavic languages. For instance, Russian vertm~golova 'TURN~HEAD' means 'heedless'. A lot of the russian names, such as Vladimir and Stanislav, are of this type as well, but thats another story.... The baltic states are on the East side of the Baltic Sea, north to Poland, West to Russia, South to Finland. In Latvia and Lithuania, they speak Baltic languages which are related to the Slavic languages, but in Estonia, another Baltic state, they speak Estonian which is related to Finnish and Hungarian. I know nothing about Thanksgiving except that they eat Turkey or, as I have learned form this list, Tofurkey. Plus, these days I leave romance to the Russians. That way, it will get really cold.... hehe Bene ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 19:09:41 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving - --- missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > I know nothing about Thanksgiving except that they > eat Turkey or, as I > have learned form this list, Tofurkey. Plus, these > days I leave > romance to the Russians. That way, it will get > really cold.... > Thanksgiving in the USA is today (2nd last Thursday in November, is it?). In Canada (hurray for us!) we celebrate it the 2nd Monday in October. It's a way of giving thanks for the things we have, the food we eat, the roofs over our heads, our friends, our families, all of our blessings. To some it's a sort-of-religious feast but it doesn't belong to any one religion, which is why I love the idea of it so much. You can be a Christian, a Jew, a Muslim, a Hindu, a witch (Hi, Isadora!), an agnostic, an aethist or any old thing at all, and you can still celebrate. I'm not sure where the idea of eating turkey came from but maybe that's what the Pilgrims (in the US) found when they arrived in America. We eat turkey in Canada as well. I think, but don't know for sure, that it's a bigger deal in the US than it is here. In my family, it was always fairly low key and I think that's why I like it more than Christmas - there are fewer expectations and fewer demands made on family to get together for no other reason than that they are family, therefore, when they do get together, they can actually enjoy each other's company more. If you get what I mean. And you get a paid day off work (depending on what kind of job you have) but if you do have to work, most places will pay you overtime to do it (except the places that really suck!) I may start spelling it thabnksgiving with that b in it, because I kind of like the way that sounds. So, let's all give thabnks! ;-) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:38:08 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving Catherine...i've always liked you very much. canada soud fasntastic. I know the quality of life there (whatever tha's supposed to mean) is magnificant> I just don't know about the cold. My fearful animals-I never could really place this, has alwasy been bears and wolves. Not that thre are any in south africa. but they gave me bad dreams and frights in the clear light of day. Thanbks for writing.. me, Ingrid. - ----- Original Message ---- From: Catherine McKay To: missblux@googlemail.com; Ingrid Lochrenberg Cc: Joni LIST Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 2:09:41 AM Subject: Re: NJC (very NJC I dare say) Re: thabnksgiving - --- missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > I know nothing about Thanksgiving except that they > eat Turkey or, as I > have learned form this list, Tofurkey. Plus, these > days I leave > romance to the Russians. That way, it will get > really cold.... > Thanksgiving in the USA is today (2nd last Thursday in November, is it?). In Canada (hurray for us!) we celebrate it the 2nd Monday in October. It's a way of giving thanks for the things we have, the food we eat, the roofs over our heads, our friends, our families, all of our blessings. To some it's a sort-of-religious feast but it doesn't belong to any one religion, which is why I love the idea of it so much. You can be a Christian, a Jew, a Muslim, a Hindu, a witch (Hi, Isadora!), an agnostic, an aethist or any old thing at all, and you can still celebrate. I'm not sure where the idea of eating turkey came from but maybe that's what the Pilgrims (in the US) found when they arrived in America. We eat turkey in Canada as well. I think, but don't know for sure, that it's a bigger deal in the US than it is here. In my family, it was always fairly low key and I think that's why I like it more than Christmas - there are fewer expectations and fewer demands made on family to get together for no other reason than that they are family, therefore, when they do get together, they can actually enjoy each other's company more. If you get what I mean. And you get a paid day off work (depending on what kind of job you have) but if you do have to work, most places will pay you overtime to do it (except the places that really suck!) I may start spelling it thabnksgiving with that b in it, because I kind of like the way that sounds. So, let's all give thabnks! ;-) Catherine Toronto - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 17:22:27 -0800 From: "gene" Subject: shelby flint hello all, i came across this interesting blog recently. what makes it waaaaaay cool is that shelby flint was the first recording i ever bought in my life back in the early 60's. never realized the connection to joni. hope you guys/gals find this as interesting as i did. also hope all of you had a great thanksgiving. in spite of everything that is wrong in this world ------i/we have much to be thankful for. gene Shelby Flint: Liquid Silk Angel Shelby Flint still has an angel on her shoulder, and she may have a slew of lucky pennies and four leaf clovers, but her greatest charm of all is that she possesses a voice of liquid silk. Born September 17, 1939, in North Hollywood, California, Flint, whose name may not be household common, is as seminal a part of the world music scene as Alicia Keys, U2, The Beatles, or The Rolling Stones. Superstar folk-singer Joni Mitchell paid homage to Flint in a recent Mirabella Magazine interview by stating simply, "I started off copying a girl named Shelby Flint." Mitchell was referring to Flint's 1961 pop hit Angel On My Shoulder, an ethereally soft, lilting tune which displays the naove-yet-alluring idealities of a young woman who saves lucky pennies, four-leaf clovers, and who wants "a love that lingers and is stronger through and through." Renowned Jazz critic Leonard Feather describes Flint as a "technically flawless performer with a pure sound and a wide range." As testimony to this statement, a review of Flint's career-to-date shows that she has recorded albums in the folk, pop, disco, and jazz genres and has performed with musicians ranging from Chick Corea and Al Jarreau to jazz purists like Tim Weston and Gregg Karukas. When Flint began her recording career on the Valiant record label as a teenager, she had already mastered classical piano and acoustic guitar, having studied both since the age of six. Her lyrical balladry on the song House of the Rising Sun in 1963 preceded the rock hit version by the British group The Animals by one year. Flint's foray into the world of film yielded a voice-acting stint as "Laine" in the 1978 television special Rudolph and Frosty's Christmas In July, as well as theme songstress for 1973's The Borrowers, 1977's The Rescuers, and 1978's The Islander. Flint has also stretched the angel wings of her talent as a set dresser on the 1994 feature film Payback. In 1981, Flint's work in the areas of jazz, latin, and R & B music won her a NARAS "Most Valuable Player" nomination and opened the door to an on-going focus upon jazz. In 1982 Flint released an album entitled You've Been On Mind upon which she demonstrated her skills as a vocalist and instrumentalist, accompanying herself on her Fender-Rhodes guitar. Flint's most personal work has been in collaboration with Producer/Guitarist Tim Weston. Their 1992 Jazz album Providence features tracks such as The Lady Weeps a sweetly passionate cry for the end of racial tension in Los Angeles. Interestingly, Lady incorporates a paraphrasing of Flint's earliest work Angel On My Shoulder in the lines "Angels we have heard, angels we have known." The angels in this instance refer to victims of hate crimes. Currently Flint tours on the Jazz circuit, appearing in festivals in areas as diverse as Monterey, Maui, Florida, Catalina Island, Delaware, and Europe. Truly this musical icon has become the angel on contemporary music's shoulder. posted by JQUINN @ 12:35 PM 0 comments ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 20:47:00 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: thabnksgiving NJC Yes, Ingrid...there is a Thanksgiving, In this great universe of ours we take a moment ..a step back... a day set aside...to give thanks. Alas! How dreary would there be the world if there were no Thanksgiving. It would be as dreary as if there were no Ingrid's. Not believe in Thanksgiving! You might as well not believe in Joni! Nobody sees Thanksgiving ..but that is no sign that that there is no Thanksgiving. You might not believe in fairies..but as we all know ..there are fairies. ..plenty of them. Did you ever see fairies dancing on the lawn or at a Bette Midler concert? A thousand years from now.Ingrid..nope..ten..and ten ten thousand years from now...wherever there are turkey's roaming.... it's about food too...lot's of it....... . loads.........and leftovers... people gorge on this day...it's acceptable...and consider it rude if you don't.... Thank God! It lives forever! Now into the kitchen to check on the leftovers..... Love... Bree >when is it thanksgiving and what is the significance of it _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:51:48 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: tofurkey njc I hosted Thanksgiving this year and made a Tofurkey for my vegetarian nieces. At one point while hanging out in the kitchen, someone commented that they smelled something like plastic burning - and then we realized it was the Tofurkey. Yum!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:54:46 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC about joni and getting personal and the rest of it It happens to all of us, Oddmund - so don't feel badly and keep writing. I treasure all of your posts and like the hundreds of others on the list I read everything, and of course I do my fair share of replying. And of course you know that Ms. Patti is flip-city for you. Right now I'm too stuffed to do anything but stretch out, so I'm going to watch the DVD of "An Inconveneient Truth" that came out this week. Ingrid, very cool news that you're working towards coming to the Fest - keep us posted and if you have any questions, ask away and we'll be happy to help. Also, please note that when someone sends you an offlist mail (when they don't send it to joni@smoe.org), your reply should also be offlist. It's considered pooe ettiquette to do otherwise. Bob NP: Living Colour, "This Is The Life" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 23:54:36 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: I'm in the cast! (njc) - sondheim's 'barcelona' >I'm also intrigued by the 'Barcelona' song. What show is that from and why did SS write a song about the city where I live? hey mike- it's not really about barcelona. the song is from his 1970 show, 'company', which is about a single guy, bobby, on his 35th birthday. 'company' has no plot, really, it just introduces you to bobby's friends, five married couples, and the three almost girlfriends he keeps on a string. it's really about fear of intimacy, fear of commitment. big subjects for a musical! the music and lyrics are just brilliant. 'barcelona' is sung by bobby and one of his girlfriends, april, a stewardess, early in the morning after they've had a great night of sex. she has to leave, early, to fly to barcelona (and madrid), and he's trying to convince her not to leave (but is he seriously asking?) it's a beautiful ballad, with guitar and strings, and it's ingenious how they trade lines in the middle of musical bars. another favorite sondheim song of mine. i just found the lyrics, and it's definitely not a poem, it only works with the melody, the arrangement and two voices. but if you're really interested: http://www.ostlyrics.com/read.php?sid=2052 all the best, patrick np - Alif Tree, Melismes Extatiques ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:33:05 -0600 From: "Snatch N. Grabster" Subject: Re: thabnksgiving On 11/23/06, Ingrid Lochrenberg wrote: > when is it thanksgiving and what is the significance of it amd wher are the > baltic states. Where does russian figure in all of these languages i.r.o you > interest, cause teh rusians write the most romantic music.I'm thinking of > especially my favourute rachmaninov...one cannot get more romantic than > that.Or I suppose one can. Thanksgiving is always on the fourth Thursday in November. It is an opportunity to be thankful for all which we have. People get together with their families and most people prepare a big meal, which generally includes some or all of the following: a big turkey, roasted in the oven stuffing mashed or sweet potatoes green bean casserole with French's fried onions on top pumpkin pie cranberry sauce It is one day a year when overeating is positively encouraged. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #444 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------