From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #439 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, November 20 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 439 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- njc Ugly dwarfs and the Bronzed 7 foot master race [Andeemac2006 ] thanksgiving, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: who will help me, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: '83 Wembley Concert DVD [PassScribe@aol.com] joni thanksgiving ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: njc Ugly dwarfs/grammar [Victor Johnson ] Re: thanksgiving, njc [Em ] Rivia Contest winner [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] NJCFw: who will help me, njc [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] Re: njc Ugly dwarfs/grammar [Catherine McKay ] RE: thanksgiving, njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] RE: thanksgiving, njc [Catherine McKay ] Slaves - NJC ["Cassy" ] RE: thanksgiving, njc [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC joni list [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] Re: JoniMitchell concert recording from the SaveTheWhales in 1976 [JoniP] Re: Slaves - NJC [Catherine McKay ] RE: thanksgiving, njc ["Bree Mcdonough" ] RE: thanksgiving, njc [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Subject: Joanna Newsom (NJC) [Claud9 ] RE: thanksgiving, njc now cwazy food habits [Catherine McKay ] Re: Subject: Joanna Newsom (NJC) [Claud9 ] Re: thanksgiving, njc [Smurf ] Re: Subject: Joanna Newsom/Tom Waits (NJC) [waytoblue@comcast.net] ipod nano (njc) [waytoblue@comcast.net] RE: thanksgiving, njc ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: NJC Re: NJC I dont know what this thread is called [missblux@googlema] Re: NJC Re: NJC I dont know what this thread is called [Ingrid Lochrenber] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 01:08:01 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Andeemac2006 Subject: njc Ugly dwarfs and the Bronzed 7 foot master race Victor Johnson I presume you are 5'11 and above, thin, who works out and has a good jobsorry if your not LOLBecause if you read other replies to my post not everybody has your opinion, and as I saidSociety is going in this direction in the USA now!!! 45 milllion people without Health Care,and it seems to me that somepeople with Health Insurance in America do not think its shouldbe automatic that everyone should have Health Insurance, as if its only a service for people with good jobs should get, and not a modern day nesscity.You didnt make any reply to my comment about how there will be more Dwarfs than 6ft healthy giants, how will society develop into all the ugly dwarfs not having the VOTE !!! neither you or Mr curry tackles this key fact.There are a lot of Ugly dwarfs that are very intellegent and Graduate through UniversityThe whole article is nothing short of what Hitler invisiged in Mien Kampfe you know " the Master race" or at best Sexist and Insulting and Class ridden snoberyIn case you hadnt noticed the Population is expanding increasingly more and more but the number of jobs is getting less and less as the Decades go by, and yes this may developinto a situation like he describes in the year 3000, but the Dwarfs will elect there Leader,because there will be more of them, to think of any thing else would be thinking of some Orwellian nightmare I dont think this will happen !!! because if you belive some reports about the elections the other weekthe Democratic vote was supressed by thousands of Votes in some states, and yet the Democrats stillwon, such is the Population disgust over the Republican way of depriving the Middle classes and the Poorof a decent standard of living, so that the Bronzed fit 6ft People can live in Luxury.This is the Pressure valve that will stop Mr Currys vision of the futureDosent it sound familiar????, and it goes without saying that every one of Mr Curry's offspring will not be Ugly dwarfs. If this article was written by Tom Delay, I could perfectly understand where he was coming fromAlso this guy Mr Curry is at the London School of Economics ????I just hear him saying " the American economy is booming " you have never had it so good. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 02:13:43 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Andeemac2006 Subject: JoniMitchell concert recording from the SaveTheWhales in 1976 If you go to this site http://tela.sugarmegs.org and navigate to the section where you can download WMA files I discoverd that the recording "JoniMitchell1976-11-20SaveTheWhales.wma" is now ready for download, Its very interesting because the band that night was only Jaco Pastorious and ( sorry) a Percussion player, Joni that night played mostly tracks from Hejira and some DJRD, the audience tape is quite good and Joni's Voice was in fine form, she did a very different version of Shadows and Light (One thing of note the said web sitesservers seem to shut down late at night)My Question is there any soundesk recordings of this nights performances, including Joni's or was the concert filmed.Listening this recording just brings me back to my belief that Joni and the band including Jaco around this period tripped the light fantasic and reached a plane of magic creativeness that not many artists have ever achieved, If I could wish one thing it would be for Joni to open up her archives of sound desk recordings of this period in time for someone to master them to the best quality, and letthe world wonder at the supergroup she had at this time Pat Metheney Jaco Pastorius, Lyle Mays, and Micheal BreckerYes I have both shadows and Light DVD's but I yearn to hear this band play "Refuge of the Roads" and other tracks, is it just me that thinks of these things, Hearing the Hissing of the summer lawns "Demo" recordings of most of the tracks proves that these tapes are out there. sorry to say for me at least Joni concerts went down hill after Jaco died and never sounded half as good againI hassen to say that I make the comparison between Joni with Jaco and Pat Metheny and co, and the bands of the 80,s and beyondAny Joni Mitchell concert was worth going to full stop. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 06:33:17 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: drummer boy, njc no queens for me either\\ only the gay kind - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Bree Mcdonough" What about queens? >well, I don't prefer anything about kings or anything. . never had (no >kings for me). . I still think it is pretty. . . _________________________________________________________________ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmemailtaglinenov06&FORM=WLMTAG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:07:44 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: thanksgiving, njc let's sit around the table and say what we are thankful for. we have so many blessings. . one of which is *you (remember years ago when at the height of nuclear proliferation and there were lists about then things we would miss if nations produced nukes and the destruction incurred?) anyway. . . what are you thankful for? . . . your families you friends joni the jmdl community. . and what are some other things. . (to those who do not write much, you too. . speak up. .. . keep it simple if you like) : -) lOve Marianne let us give thanks. . I am thankful for signs of spring. . in the spring I am thankful for the beatles I am thankful for trees I am thankful for people who care about the earth I am thanksful for all the natural resources for which everything is made of I am thankful for ancestors I am thankful for the indians who inspire me everyday I am thankful for the computer. . (which I did not grow up with . .. and I remember the typewriter. .) I am thankful for squash gotta go. . now it is your turn what ever comes to the top of your head my kids at school are going to write a little poster about what they are thankful for. . _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:17:28 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: who will help me, njc Bene wrote: I think you should talk to someone about this. People on this list are kind, and your family are the ones who care about you the most. You should take their advice. Hi Ingrid, Good you ARE talking to people on our list. As for your family, I don't know them, and for all I know they might be toxic rather than caring so their advice might not be helpful. I prefer psychologist to psychiatrists, and over both I prefer good friends and support groups. If you get *your* own chosen psychologist who can legally vouch for you, then your family trying to commit you won't work any more. That is what I would do if I was in your situation. Maybe somebody you know where you live could recommend a psychologist who is trustworthy and knows what they are doing. Things can get better. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:21:08 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: '83 Wembley Concert DVD > Make a copy of the original DVD, keep the copy > for yourself, then offer the original to the list again. > > Again, the DVD is PAL format for region 4. > Hi, Melissa, I don't think I can play (or make a copy) from PAL format, but if it plays on US machines, I'd be interested. If not, I'd be thrilled to acquire a copy that does play on US machines if anyone out there has one. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:47:55 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: joni thanksgiving thankful for: the seasons they go round and round _________________________________________________________________ View Athletes Collections with Live Search http://sportmaps.live.com/index.html?source=hmemailtaglinenov06&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:12:17 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: njc Ugly dwarfs/grammar If that's your interpretation then you're welcome to it. On another topic, the reason people use proper grammar and spelling with punctuation is because its easier for the reader to read what they have written, and gives their words a sense of phrasing, and rhythm. Your posts are just a big jumble of words that run on and on. In an actual conversation people don't speak like that. You're welcome to your own opinion but running it into the ground, beating someone over the head with it, doesn't give it any more credibility or help support your argument. Victor On Nov 20, 2006, at 4:08 AM, Andeemac2006 wrote: > Victor Johnson I presume you are 5'11 and above, thin, who works > out and > has a good jobsorry if your not LOLBecause if you read other > replies to > my post not everybody has your opinion, and as I saidSociety is > going in > this direction in the USA now!!! 45 milllion people without Health > Care,and > it seems to me that somepeople with Health Insurance in America do not > think its shouldbe automatic that everyone should have Health > Insurance, > as if its only a service for people with good jobs should get, and > not a > modern day nesscity.You didnt make any reply to my comment about how > there will be more Dwarfs than 6ft healthy giants, how will society > develop into all the ugly dwarfs not having the VOTE !!! neither > you or > Mr curry tackles this key fact.There are a lot of Ugly dwarfs that are > very intellegent and Graduate through UniversityThe whole article is ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 06:05:13 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: thanksgiving, njc - --- Marianne Rizzo wrote: > let's sit around the table and say what we are thankful for. 1. thankful for my relative good health and that of my family 2. thankful that I live in a time and place in history where I am not terribly downtrodden and I can do pretty much whatever I want 3. THANKFUL that we now have more control from the Dems in Washington, and I pray that some good comes of it 4. thankful that my 86 Mustang continues to chug away 5. thankful for the blessing of winter in Florida 6. thankful for my internet friendships, most of which are the result of e-lists of one kind or another 7. yep, thankful that so many of my fave songwriters/performers are still kickin ass and taking no prisoners (tho thats an ugly way to put it) well into their 60's 8. thankful that even tho my grandmother passed away this year, at 90, she did not ever have to lay suffering in a home, she was up and walking and could bless us with her smile until her last day 9. thankful for my big backyard oak which I feel is my protector, (tho my insurance co seems to feel otherwise) 10. just generally, as Joan B. sings "Gracias a la vida, que me ha dado tanto" (sp?) thanks for making me think about it, Marianne. Em ps oh I'm THANKFUL that the Bucs finally won a friggin game! woo hoo! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:31:37 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Rivia Contest winner Congratulations to Hell in NZ for being the ONLY person to answer all 5 River trivia questions correctly - Hell, your Halie Loren CD is on the way, I'm sure she will be excited to know that she will be getting airplay in NZ and I hope that you enjoy it. Thanks too to everyone else who gave it a shot. I realize that it wasn't easy. Life is supposed to be hard. Just in case you're interested, here are the answers: 1. James Taylor performed River at the TNT Tribute in 2000; 2. Dolly Parton has not recorded River, the others I listed (Heart, Barry Manilow, Roseanne Cash) have. 3. Madeleine Peyroux duets with k.d. lang on River, on Madeleine's latest CD; 4. R&B singer Kenny Lattimore sings River on Peter White's Christmas album titled "Songs Of The Season"; 5. River appears on Blue, Hits & SOAPGirl. Bob NP: Bruce Springsteen, "Spare Parts" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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My sisters have not knwon that I'm not their relative, i beleive this, bu now the blood test person ha also completely contardicted herself and given me a piece of paer which says I'm 99.99% my parent's child. I absolutely suspect fraud, and amhaving to fight taht battle too- i'm taking it p wih them. In teh meantime,my moteh has started telling me things which contardict what she told me in my childhood umpteenth times.I'm at a poitnwhere I want to tell her to forget about having any relatinship with me .I've just spoken to my psychiatrist who has doubled my anti-psychotic. I felt like crying, but told her I'd take it in the interest of protecting our relationship (it's really absurd that I, being the patient, should be doing this). As you've pointed out, a psychologist could be better...: I've just started seeing a social work/therapist whom I really get on with. my psycitarist now is not only going to phone my sister and say that I'm manic, but phone my therapist as well. This is quite allrightwith me , as this therapist is pragmatic and down to earth and can see the wood for the trees, which I'm afraid my psychiatrist cannot at the moment. I have had more to cope with in my life than the sanest operson I know or have heard of.(exept perhaps Job!) Thanks plenty for making the intial gesture of being on my side. with love, and thanks for your time and care ingrid - ----- Original Message ---- From: "LCStanley7@aol.com" To: joni@smoe.org Cc: lochrenbird@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:17:28 PM Subject: Re: who will help me, njc Bene wrote: I think you should talk to someone about this. People on this list are kind, and your family are the ones who care about you the most. You should take their advice. Hi Ingrid, Good you ARE talking to people on our list. As for your family, I don't know them, and for all I know they might be toxic rather than caring so their advice might not be helpful. I prefer psychologist to psychiatrists, and over both I prefer good friends and support groups. If you get *your* own chosen psychologist who can legally vouch for you, then your family trying to commit you won't work any more. That is what I would do if I was in your situation. Maybe somebody you know where you live could recommend a psychologist who is trustworthy and knows what they are doing. Things can get better. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 11:31:07 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc Ugly dwarfs/grammar If humans and neanderthals split at least 370,000 years ago, according to recent newspaper reports, then why it take only 1,000 to split into tall beauty overlords and ugly dwarf slaves? If it has to do with genetic engineering, if were up to me and I could breed slaves, I think I'd want them to be at least fairly good-looking and tall enough to reach stuff on the high shelves that I can't reach, but maybe I'm just shallow that way. Not quite a dwarf, not particularly good-looking, but pretty smart some of the time and fairly happy as I am, although I'd prefer a robot, not a slave, to do some of the tidying up and especially the ironing (yuk) and changing the cat-litter box (pooey!) Robots don't require much upkeep (in my imaginary world, that is) and they don't talk back! > > On Nov 20, 2006, at 4:08 AM, Andeemac2006 wrote (to Victor): > > everybody has your opinion, and as I > saidSociety is > > going in > > this direction in the USA now!!! 45 milllion > people without Health > > Care,and > > it seems to me that somepeople with Health > Insurance in America do not > > think its shouldbe automatic that everyone should > have Health > > Insurance, > > as if its only a service for people with good jobs > should get, and > > not a > > modern day nesscity.You didnt make any reply to my > comment about how > > there will be more Dwarfs than 6ft healthy giants, > how will society > > develop into all the ugly dwarfs not having the > VOTE !!! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 11:50:39 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: thanksgiving, njc First things that pop into my head....what am I thankful for?........ Abraham Lincoln (I heard Doris Kearns Goodwin speak about him yesterday on C-Span...it brought tears to my eyes) What a good and decent man...how blessed this country was to have him living among us. For all ages ..indeed! Freedom! (how corny am i?) My health. (preventive things need to take place..though) Pies. (I want to make the ultimate pie) For most people trying to find the good... Bree >let's sit around the table and say what we are thankful for. > >we have so many blessings. . >one of which is *you > > >(remember years ago when at the height of nuclear proliferation and there >were lists about then things we would miss if nations produced nukes and >the destruction incurred?) > > >anyway. . . what are you thankful for? . . . >I am thankful for signs of spring. . in the spring >I am thankful for the beatles >I am thankful for trees >I am thankful for people who care about the earth >I am thanksful for all the natural resources for which everything is made >of >I am thankful for ancestors >I am thankful for the indians who inspire me everyday >I am thankful for the computer. . (which I did not grow up with . .. and I >remember the typewriter. .) >I am thankful for squash _________________________________________________________________ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:35:29 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: thanksgiving, njc - --- Bree Mcdonough wrote: > what am I > thankful for?........ > I'm thankful that we already had our Thanksgiving 5-6 weeks ago, at a time when the weather is generally much nicer (except for this year, because we've been having the most miserable, cloudy, rainy weather for weeks on end). I'm thankful today that, even if it has gotten cold enough to wear winter coats, there's no rain in the forecast for all this week, and there's at least the possibility of sun between the clouds, and I'm thankful for my naivete in believing that maybe this time, the weatherpeople have got it right. > Pies. (I want to make the ultimate pie) I'm thankful for pies made by others! I'm also thankful for the opportunity to vent and say things online, even very silly things, and that, if everything we write here is indeed searchable, potentially forever, that I will at last have found the key to life after death. And to my American friends, I'm thankful to have the opportunity to be thankful again for things I was thankful for 5-6 weeks ago, with a few more added in. May your days be merry and bright - wrong holiday but right sentiment. And to anyone who lives in a country that doesn't have a Thanksgiving, what are you waiting for? Contact your MP or local representative and get them on it. It's the perfect holiday that can be celebrated any way you want, with or without religion but, if with religion, then of any religion or your choosing - and you get another paid day off work. It's the perfect win-win situation and no guilt attached! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:44:31 -0500 From: "Cassy" Subject: Slaves - NJC Oh Catherine, If you only knew! Slaves only have to be tall enough to kiss your feet. Being somewhat easy on the eyes is a bonus but not required. See: http://www.cleaninghunk.com:80/ From: "Catherine McKay" <<< if were up to me and I could breed slaves, I think I'd want them to be at least fairly good-looking and tall enough to reach stuff on the high shelves that I can't reach, but maybe I'm just shallow that way. >>> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:57:09 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: thanksgiving, njc And Hallmark and Madison Avenue haven't figured out how to properly exploit it, so you don't have to get people Thanksgiving Cards and buy everyone gifts. You have to pretty much buy a turkey, but they're actually pretty cheap. The big gift is just getting everyone together and enjoying time and food with one another. It is my favorite holiday, except for the fact that once it's over, it's full speed ahead with the craziness of what has become my LEAST favorite holiday. Bob NP: Ani, "Good, Bad, Ugly" PS: WORST food ever at a Thanksgiving dinner was a turkey-shaped ball of tofu, called a Tofurkey - ugh. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:09:22 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: Re: NJC joni list Don't you worry! I know precisely how alocholism manifests itself! I've attended many AA meetings and lived with an alcoholic (till recently). I live in South Africa, so i'm afraid the USA's standards won't necessary apply here, though my psychiatrist did ask me if she could phone these two people. I should have said no, rather. Always feel i have to play along as much as possible- meaning be as acquiescent as possible, so as to calm my psychiatrists!I'm glad you're open with the Joni list about your alcohol problem, and that you've been sober for three years. That's fantastic!Love, Ingrid - ----- Original Message ---- From: "LCStanley7@aol.com" To: lochrenbird@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:52:07 PM Subject: Re: NJC joni list Hi Ingrid, I am very open with the Joni list about my alcoholism. I have over 3 years in AA now and am doing better than I ever have in my life. If you haven't experienced craving more alcohol after consuming one glass, you are probably not an alcoholic. If I was to drink one glass, I would crave a second and a third worse than the second and a fourth worse than the third, etc. It isn't like a food craving but is more like the feeling of suffocating so you have to have another or you feel you'll die. And, there is never enough alcohol for an alcoholic. We drink ourselves into oblivion and even if it makes us vomit, we drink another after vomiting. One thing that really hit home with me that I'm an alcoholic is when my AA sponsor said, you wouldn't eat broccoli until it made you sick and then eat even more. Enjoy your day. Love, Laura In a message dated 11/20/2006 9:27:26 A.M. Central Standard Time, lochrenbird@yahoo.com writes: Well, i can tell you for sure that the women I'm attracted so very often are alcoholics! When my therapist/pscychiatrist left for Australia at the beginning of 2001, shocking me so deeply, I took to having 1 glass of wine, every day, up till now. I have never been able to handle feeling anything more than tipsy. I hope you're doing okay. It's such a bad idea to touch alcohol when you are an alcoholic. keep with your good intentions. ingrid Message ----P.S. Woukd you mind the list ever knwoing- I almost posted this to the list...I. From: "LCStanley7@aol.com" To: lochrenbird@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:22:05 PM Subject: off the joni list Hi Ingrid, I'm a recovering alcoholic. Do you drink alcohol? Have you ever had a problem with it. Just curious. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:24:12 +0100 From: JoniPD Subject: Re: JoniMitchell concert recording from the SaveTheWhales in 1976 Hi! Oh yes, it's a Beautiful concert! Of course I agree with the Pat Metheny et el. band (it was a dream one!) although I highly appreciate her 1998 band, too. Have you noticed that this Save the Whales concert took place exactly thirty years ago? Happy Birthday! (although not so happy for the poor whales...) BTW, the percussionist is Bobbye Hall (and the one who sings in Dolphins is Fred Neil) I've made just the other day some simple artwork for it; it's not as Brilliant as the ones that Mark in Sydney does (Hey Mark, Many Thanks!), but if you want it it's here: http://download.yousendit.com/FDEE47D37E7F8962 and http://download.yousendit.com/2AE5A4136F4F9525 Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano NP: Joni: Song for Sharon (yes, from that concert...) Andeemac2006 escribis: > If you go to this site http://tela.sugarmegs.org and navigate to > the section where you can download WMA files I discoverd that the > recording "JoniMitchell1976-11-20SaveTheWhales.wma" is now ready for > download, Its very interesting because the band that night was only Jaco > Pastorious and ( sorry) a Percussion player, Joni that night played > mostly tracks from Hejira and some DJRD, the audience tape is quite good > and Joni's > Voice was in fine form, she did a very different version of Shadows and > Light (One thing of note the said web sitesservers seem to shut down > late at night)My Question is there any soundesk recordings of this nights > performances, including Joni's or was the concert filmed.Listening this > recording just brings me back to my belief that Joni and the band > including Jaco around this period tripped the light > fantasic and reached a plane of magic creativeness that not many artists > have ever achieved, If I could wish one thing it would be for Joni to > open up her archives of sound desk recordings of this period in time for > someone to master them to the best quality, and letthe world wonder at > the supergroup she had at this time Pat Metheney Jaco Pastorius, Lyle > Mays, and Micheal BreckerYes I have both shadows and Light DVD's but I > yearn to hear this band play "Refuge of the Roads" and other tracks, is > it just me that thinks of these things, Hearing the Hissing of the > summer lawns "Demo" recordings of most of the tracks proves that these > tapes are out there. sorry to say for me at least Joni concerts went > down hill after Jaco died and never sounded half as good againI hassen to > say that I make the comparison between Joni with Jaco and Pat Metheny and > co, and the bands of the 80,s and beyondAny Joni Mitchell concert was > worth going to full stop. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:48:48 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Slaves - NJC - --- Cassy wrote: > Oh Catherine, If you only knew! Slaves only have > to be tall enough to kiss > your feet. Being somewhat easy on the eyes is a > bonus but not required. > > See: http://www.cleaninghunk.com:80/ > LOL - now I know what to ask Santa for! who ya gonna get to do the dirty work when all the slaves are free? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:47:58 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: thanksgiving, njc You know...I actually like Tofurkey. It was one of the first meals Marianne fixed for me...and at the time...I thought..."Oh no...I don't want to hurt her feelings..but I can't eat this....sh*t! " But I was wrong..the more I ate the more I liked. (the more she cooked the more she reached me) The gravy packet that comes with it is..imo..quite tasty. Now....I want the real stuff on Thanksgiving..don't get me wrong. Every great once in a while I'll pick of the complete feast and fix it for Marianne and me. It's a real nice treat for her. (she's been a vegetarian from a very early age...twenty or so. ) The complete feast is not cheap..it retails for about twenty-five bucks. It has the faux turkey. ...dressing.....gravy... wishtix.. a veggie based jerky ...dumplings with some kind of cranberry sauce. I put a lot of carrots and potatoes around the tofurkey while it's baking..with soy sauce...orange juice..and other spices. Oh..what I won't eat .... veggie hotdogs..all shriveled up..very bad ..imo. Bree >PS: WORST food ever at a Thanksgiving dinner was a turkey-shaped ball of >tofu, called a Tofurkey - ugh. > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >The information transmitted is intended only for the person >or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, >business-confidential and/or privileged material. >If you are not the intended recipient of this message you >are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, >dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken >in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received >this in error, please contact the sender and delete the >material from any computer. 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Then, to make it worse, she come by and 'judge' whatever you were having for lunch and say "Oh those are bad carbs" and such. We used to catch her down in the snack room later in the day getting pork rinds and Snickers out of the vending machines and of course we had to ask her about the quality of THOSE carbs. Bob NP: Pearl Jam, "Come Back" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Her bio says she grew up in Nevada City, CA. > Betcha her parents were hippies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:37:32 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: thanksgiving, njc now cwazy food habits - --- Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > > Figures. I think you're just wired backwards, babe. > :o) > > But we do agree on the veggie hotdogs - man, those > are EVEN nastier than > the furkin' Tofurkey. I had a co-worker once (who > was as ADD as they come > but I digress) and she went on some kind of > screwball diet where she ate > those veggie-dogs every day - she'd cook them in the > microwave and our > whole area would smell like burning rubber. > > Then, to make it worse, she come by and 'judge' > whatever you were having > for lunch and say "Oh those are bad carbs" and such. > We used to catch her > down in the snack room later in the day getting pork > rinds and Snickers > out of the vending machines and of course we had to > ask her about the > quality of THOSE carbs. > First of all, the name *tofurkey* cracks me right up. Second, if vegetarians are indeed vegetarians, why do the makers of vegetarian fare want to make their veggie stuff in the shape of meat and try to imitate the look and smell of meat (and then they do it badly anyway?) Call me crazy but it seems to me that, if you don't want to eat meat, you should eat stuff that doesn't look like it. We once had a "carbs" freak in the office. Actually a lot of the "no-carbs" types eat lots of meat, but no carb goods. Your co-worker sounds a bit messed up! And there was another, who was a judgemental vegetarian. When it came time for the annual staff Christmas lunch and the usual arguments ensued, she was upset when the choice of the majority was a chicken barbecue place and made sure everyone heard her complaints about how the rest of us were going to be eating "chicken carcasses" (mmmmm, yummmy!) I guess I can understand people that don't eat it being grossed out by meat. I remember when I was pregnant with my first kid that certain smells (anything fried) made me feel sick. But we live in a world where many are carnivores, so c'est la vie. Im' just glad we don't eat some of the weirder stuff, like snakes and so on. I can get pretty snippy about people that smoke a lot, but I'm prone to sinus infections and smoke really aggravates that, so I think I have a right to whine. As a rule, I will just leave the area where people are smoking and we have so many no-smoking laws here that it's not hard to avoid smokers most of the time without missing out on the fun (although I think the best gossip at work happens with the smokers, outside freezing their asses off outside the building and smoking up a storm on their smoking breaks.) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:44:20 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Subject: Joanna Newsom (NJC) - --- Claud9 wrote: > Apparently she is categorized into a new genre > called "Freak Folk". "Freak folk" is the expression I've heard used to describe her, along with other artists such as Devendra Banhart. There's also "anti-folk" and I'm not sure what the difference really is, except that "freak folk" seems to have more in common with psychadelic rock (and folk) whereas "anti-folk" has more in common with punk (and folk). It's all very confusing really. If you google either term and/or look them up on wikipedia, you could spend hours researching and then finding new threads to follow. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:50:18 -0500 From: Claud9 Subject: Re: Subject: Joanna Newsom (NJC) Yeah, it seems even folks in the industry are confused about what determines one artist to be "Freak Folk" and not the other. Sometimes personal style factors in more than the music. Claud on 11/20/06 4:44 PM, Catherine McKay at anima_rising@yahoo.ca wrote: > > --- Claud9 wrote: > >> Apparently she is categorized into a new genre >> called "Freak Folk". > > "Freak folk" is the expression I've heard used to > describe her, along with other artists such as > Devendra Banhart. There's also "anti-folk" and I'm not > sure what the difference really is, except that "freak > folk" seems to have more in common with psychadelic > rock (and folk) whereas "anti-folk" has more in common > with punk (and folk). It's all very confusing really. > If you google either term and/or look them up on > wikipedia, you could spend hours researching and then > finding new threads to follow. > > > Catherine > Toronto > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> - - > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:06:26 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: thanksgiving, njc All this talk about tofu now, I think you are all just trying to provoke a response from Ashara! - --Smurf - ----- Original Message ---- From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" To: Bree Mcdonough Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:59:38 PM Subject: RE: thanksgiving, njc Figures. I think you're just wired backwards, babe. :o) But we do agree on the veggie hotdogs - man, those are EVEN nastier than the furkin' Tofurkey. I had a co-worker once (who was as ADD as they come but I digress) and she went on some kind of screwball diet where she ate those veggie-dogs every day - she'd cook them in the microwave and our whole area would smell like burning rubber. Then, to make it worse, she come by and 'judge' whatever you were having for lunch and say "Oh those are bad carbs" and such. We used to catch her down in the snack room later in the day getting pork rinds and Snickers out of the vending machines and of course we had to ask her about the quality of THOSE carbs. Bob NP: Pearl Jam, "Come Back" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:31:26 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: Re: Subject: Joanna Newsom/Tom Waits (NJC) I did not get a chance to go hear her Sunday night. I decided to be lazy and stay at home but I plan on checking out her music soon. I did order "Orphans" from Amazon for $39.99 w/ no tax & free shipping! The only thing is I'll have to wait a week probably till I receive it. But we've waited this long so what's a few days? Victor -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Claud9 > Apparently she is categorized into a new genre called "Freak Folk". I was > just at a music conference which discussed artists in that category. Yes she > is definitely interesting and apparently sells really well on a sort of > underground level. I guess she is part of the new generation of folk. > Claud ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:34:32 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: ipod nano (njc) I have an ipod nano, brand new, still in the box (the serial number bar is cut off the box but it is otherwise intact) that is black, 2 gig, holds 500 songs. I'm selling it for $100 dollars. I thought I would check here first and see if anyone is looking for one before going to craigslist, etc... Any interested parties please contact me offlist. thanks, Victor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:50:59 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: thanksgiving, njc Bob Murphy wrote All this talk about tofu now . . . ___________________________ I think it must be part of the latest style. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 00:29:25 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: NJC Re: NJC I dont know what this thread is called On 11/19/06, Ingrid Lochrenberg wrote: > > You're every generous at heart and thank you. I was terribly out of it in > my pschiatric life. So don't think my thinking I had black parents were the > first hint of it.I hear what you say about depression and cognitive > therapy's view on it disturibing ones'ability to cope with the cause. I was > so depressed and felt unworthy of searching for a mother, especialy an > accomplished one > > ----- Original Message ---- > Thanks...! Were Joan Armatrading and Stevie Wonder ever a couple in the first place...?? It's not so much that they are black, it's more that the idea of them being together sounds so funny... Bene ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:41:53 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: Re: NJC Re: NJC I dont know what this thread is called No, benedicte, I am so sure that they weren't involvd, even for a one-night stand. It's just: I'm caucasian, so it seems rather far-fetched you will agree. I met Joan Armatrading in 2000 here in Cape Town. I was taken backstage as I'd written to her and joined her Insider's Club. I always felt I had a connection with her, and that I'd meet her oneday. Chiefly the song that did it for me was "Love by You", of hers, which I told her I Thought was an incredible love song, and which set my mind moving, especially when in a psychotic state- but then all her music did. I write to her occasionally, and feel I must keep it up so that the connection can last. I've always loved Stevie Wonder's music (well, some of it- his ballads) Otherwise I like Sting and many other solo artists, but joni stands out way above everyone for me.And I'm afraid I have nmy fixations in teh music industry. I first got to know the name through my one sister who was such a fan of Janis Ian's, and who told me that janis Ian considered Joni to be her role model and the ones she most admired. so then when in Joburg I went to the best music store (in South Africa, at the tine, probably)where I found a whole bunch of albums, but it took jusr one glance to settle on BLUE, and I knew I was going to buy it buy it already but This Flight Tonight which is I think the second one (I've just sent my copy to Austalia) confirmed this to me.Of course blue is lovely, especially where she sings "I love you, I love you.! It's the best love song I can think of, and I know it's writtenfor her child.But i promised Debra that i was goin g to write at length about my impressions and feelings towards Joni. I'll most likely do it by day's end or tomorrow. Don't worry about the assumption you made about my family. It just was way off the mark. I write to m mother often on email, more so than do the other children, but in person our relationship has very often just been sour.I loved my father despite difficulties since early childhood but he has died many years ago.My twinsister is crazy about me, but the relationship is bizarre a significant part of the time. And then my second oldest sister has really had it in for me all these years, despite also enjoying me and my communications with me: a two-sided coin.My oldest sister and her family are now supporting me. I came a cropper through my bank's online trading website and some bad judgement resulting from depression, but weren't it for them I would have been fine. that's why I feel i should make a case against them. They let me down at the worst times. This must sound strange and my psychiatist now thinks I am suffering paranoid delusions ...little does she know- though we're also laughing -in fact she has been laughing with abandon at and with me these past few days when I wasn't sleeping. Shes just playing it safe, but she's com'pletely wrong and I'm not going to double up and will inform her that I chnanged my mind about that.Saw her today your time but yesterday my time. We like one another, but this seems like it's backfiring against me once again. People don't want to loose me, and espcially when they feel some anger from me they become very alarmed.)I've had delusions of grandeur but only once on one night have I been fully paranoid, and it was merely fear and suspicion. Otherwise I've most of my life mistook people as not liking me-a result of depression, despite people I trust telling me it's a figment of my imagination.I've wanted to reach out to Joni for a decade and six years at least, in fact as I now recall it was since hearing Blue for that first time in the music store, in my inner being,(Dreams, just dreams) but always thought I should establish my music so that I had some justification or so that she could know of me that way. Then I realised on the 27th or 28th of October that I should just look for her website and reach out that way. But, for everything there "is a time under the heavans...and she sings "send me sombody whose strong and somewhat sincere. I know I should meet her. I've felt defeated in wanting to meet her anyway, because of my mother's protestations. Who is Joni PD? Where is Joni ? I've been sending her messages on the JMDL screen especially when my email connection was severed. And I have thought a few people are er upseudonamesThey thanks one on JMDLexcitedly for one's comments. and it's makes me feel she's thanking me! I've looked through most of her painting and love it , and think her later albums live up and even exceed her younger ones, though this sounds absurd too. i love. love "for the Roses" despite that first songs about the dinner gong having before gotten to me. It's nice now ehen she talks about frsh salmon frying, and the tide rolling in. I live fish.O've got Dog eat Dog ad Night ride home and Mingus, all of which i like a lot Also Hissing of Summer lawns and Hejire which I want to listen to today.I am so thrilled iwth Woodtstack especially on Shadowns and light, which seems like a communication from the gods. can't listen to it loudly enough. Will get the missing lalbums if i can this weekend.I feel every songs of Joni's as being a communication .What of, I will elucidate in my posting about my attachment to her, which Debra encouraged me to give. I cant believe what she looks like- 'she looks perfect''. That album cover on Clouds just doesn't do her justice, though it's been fascinating to look at. The album cover of Song to a Seagull is absolutely beautiful.Where is that connection to the site where that guy plays Joni's A case of you amongst others? But i will find it in her lists I've been going through.Will write about her at length by tomorrow night. keep well, Benedicte. from me. Much love Ingrid - ----- Original Message ---- From: "missblux@googlemail.com" To: Ingrid Lochrenberg Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:29:25 AM Subject: Re: NJC Re: NJC I dont know what this thread is called On 11/19/06, Ingrid Lochrenberg wrote: You're every generous at heart and thank you. I was terribly out of it in my pschiatric life. So don't think my thinking I had black parents were the first hint of it.I hear what you say about depression and cognitive therapy's view on it disturibing ones'ability to cope with the cause. I was so depressed and felt unworthy of searching for a mother, especialy an accomplished one - ----- Original Message ---- Thanks...! Were Joan Armatrading and Stevie Wonder ever a couple in the first place...?? It's not so much that they are black, it's more that the idea of them being together sounds so funny... Bene ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #439 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------