From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #433 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, November 17 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 433 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: speaking of Annie Leibovitz [richard2sf@gmail.com] sjc, Joni's beauty, and everyone else's ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: speaking of Annie Leibovitz [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] Tom Waits njc ["Les Irvin" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:38:55 -0800 From: richard2sf@gmail.com Subject: Re: speaking of Annie Leibovitz She had her first child at 51, and it is largely rumored that Annie's child was donor-inseminated by Susan's brother. Why is Annie still in the closet? She and Susan were 'friends' is all she has ever said. Read the current Advocate issue article about the book and exhibit . . . . http://advocate.com/ (which you'll have to buy, as it's not in the online edition) ~Richard in San Francisco Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:43:49 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Speaking of Annie Lebowitz (NJC) Anyone else catch Annie on Oprah today? (The show was titled DREAM JOBS) Go to: http://www2.oprah.com/index.jhtml for a short video and picture of Annie. Click on: Behind the Lens of Annie Lebowitz for more show info and pictures. Didn't realize she had her first child at 51. Wow! Like Joni she has a gallery showing in London as well as a new collection of her work, "A Photographer's Life: 1990-2005, including the final days of Sontag. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14964292/site/newsweek/ Mark your calendars because on January 3rd on PBS Annie will be featured on "A Life Thru the Lens". Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 04:56:21 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: sjc, Joni's beauty, and everyone else's Kakki, twice Joni-blessed this month, wrote: You know when I think of it, if one were ever to say to Joni or anyone that they look so much more beautiful in person than in their photos it could be taken as a slight insult or backhanded compliment! And of course, that is not how it is meant! True beauty is not about "looks" at all whether it be a woman or a man. Joni's beauty in person is startling because it is like her entire inner beauty, spirit and personality just bursts out of her pores. She has a glow around her, light sparks brightly from her eyes and her countenance is very soft. The bright burst of inner beauty you experience when you meet her in person transcends her physical features. She has presence and is fully animated and engaged. I think when people say someone looks so youthful it is not because they have been dieting or had botox or nips and tucks. I think it is because all the trials of life have not completely conquered their spirit. Rather than having, for instance, a hard, cold, hollow or weary look in their eyes, their eyes still have some of the sparkle of a teenager or the innocence of a child. Rather than having a tired, grim or resigned bearing, they look spunky! That's what makes them look youthful or what can be regarded as beautiful. And that's what Joni has going on ;-) Exactement, Kakki! Beautifully expressed, mon amie. Applause, applause! And Leslie and Nuri and Bree and Kate and everyone else: such wonderful posts! It's very late when I walked in, and I have so much more to say about SIQUOMB and Neil Young and you know....but I have no time right now because I have to watch Prof. Muhammad Yunus, "Banker to the Poor", this year's Nobel Peace Prize winner, on Jon Stewart. So let me get one thing out quickly: Lesli, dear, I know what you mean about feeling older and less beautiful. But fuggedaboutit (or however you spell that). Here's a song for you, and for everyone, for the morning, from our old friend Carole: You've got to get up every morning with a smile on your face And show the world all the love in your heart Then people gonna treat you better You're gonna find, yes, you will That you're beautiful as you feel Waiting at the station with a workday wind a-blowing I've got nothing to do but watch the passers-by Mirrored in their faces I see frustration growing And they don't see it showing, why do I? You've got to get up every morning with a smile on your face And show the world all the love in your heart Then people gonna treat you better You're gonna find, yes, you will That you're beautiful as you feel I have often asked myself the reason for sadness In a world where tears are just a lullaby If there's any answer, maybe love can end the madness Maybe not, oh, but we can only try You've got to get up every morning with a smile on your face And show the world all the love in your heart Then people gonna treat you better You're gonna find, yes, you will That you're beautiful as you feel I still think that your picture is beautiful, and so is your spirit. So "feel" that! So there! Forget those LA beauties and the young ones....although I do know how you feel, when I walk across campus and see all the bright young faces, barely clad in what looks like underwear (those skimpy jersey bottoms w/ UCONN or their high school advertised on their butts....sheesh!). All Joni people are totally beautiful. That's my two cents before dreamland. Love and peace, Patti P. NPIMH: (Oh, Muller, I am so sorry for dragging out another moldie oldie, but I really do have this in my head right now!) Itchycoo Park Steve Marriot/Ronnie Lane Over bridge of sighs to rest my eyes In shades of green Under dreaming spires, to Itchycoo park That's where I've been What did you do there? I got high What did you feel there? Well I cried But why the tears there? Tell you why It's all too beautiful, it's all too beautiful it's all too beautiful, it's all too beautiful I feel inclined to blow my mind Get hung up feed the ducks with a bun They all come out to groove about While I search for fun in the sun I tell you what I'll do (What will you do?) I'd like to go there now with you You can miss out school(Won't that be cool?) Why go to learn the words of fools What do we do there? Well get high (What will we touch there?) We'll touch the sky But why the tears there? I'll tell you why It's all too beautiful, it's all too beautiful It's all too beautiful, it's all too beautiful I feel inclined to blow my mind ....... It's all too beautiful _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:23:55 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: inside out >Id like to weigh in on this topic and second Mr Muller. Although I dont disagree with the notion that real beauty is on the inside, I dont want to be so PC as to deny that, in my opinion, Joni is indeed Gorgeous.< I respect your thoughts, both of you guys, but must add we are talking about a 63 year old woman who is incredibly beautiful in person because of who she is on the inside (& yes also on the outside) however, at 63 it is more about who you are on the inside that shines through on the outside... that is what my mom told me she saw after she attended her 50th high school reunion (I think it was)... so that is when we are in our late 60's... she noticed how much people's appearances reflected their insides at that age.. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:52:25 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: Re: speaking of Annie Leibovitz but they were! - ----- Original Message ---- From: "richard2sf@gmail.com" To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 5:38:55 AM Subject: Re: speaking of Annie Leibovitz She had her first child at 51, and it is largely rumored that Annie's child was donor-inseminated by Susan's brother. Why is Annie still in the closet? She and Susan were 'friends' is all she has ever said. Read the current Advocate issue article about the book and exhibit . . . . http://advocate.com/ (which you'll have to buy, as it's not in the online edition) ~Richard in San Francisco Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:43:49 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Speaking of Annie Lebowitz (NJC) Anyone else catch Annie on Oprah today? (The show was titled DREAM JOBS) Go to: http://www2.oprah.com/index.jhtml for a short video and picture of Annie. Click on: Behind the Lens of Annie Lebowitz for more show info and pictures. Didn't realize she had her first child at 51. Wow! Like Joni she has a gallery showing in London as well as a new collection of her work, "A Photographer's Life: 1990-2005, including the final days of Sontag. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14964292/site/newsweek/ Mark your calendars because on January 3rd on PBS Annie will be featured on "A Life Thru the Lens". Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:02:46 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: Re: sjc, Joni's beauty, and everyone else's - ----- Original Message ---- From: Patti Parlette To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 6:56:21 AM Subject: sjc, Joni's beauty, and everyone else's Kakki, twice Joni-blessed this month, wrote: You know when I think of it, if one were ever to say to Joni or anyone that they look so much more beautiful in person than in their photos it could be taken as a slight insult or backhanded compliment! And of course, that is not how it is meant! True beauty is not about "looks" at all whether it be a woman or a man. Joni's beauty in person is startling because it is like her entire inner beauty, spirit and personality just bursts out of her pores. She has a glow around her, light sparks brightly from her eyes and her countenance is very soft. The bright burst of inner beauty you experience when you meet her in person transcends her physical features. She has presence and is fully animated and engaged. I think when people say someone looks so youthful it is not because they have been dieting or had botox or nips and tucks. I think it is because all the trials of life have not completely conquered their spirit. Rather than having, for instance, a hard, cold, hollow or weary look in their eyes, their eyes still have some of the sparkle of a teenager or the innocence of a child. Rather than having a tired, grim or resigned bearing, they look spunky! That's what makes them look youthful or what can be regarded as beautiful. And that's what Joni has going on ;-) Exactement, Kakki! Beautifully expressed, mon amie. Applause, applause! And Leslie and Nuri and Bree and Kate and everyone else: such wonderful posts! It's very late when I walked in, and I have so much more to say about SIQUOMB and Neil Young and you know....but I have no time right now because I have to watch Prof. Muhammad Yunus, "Banker to the Poor", this year's Nobel Peace Prize winner, on Jon Stewart. So let me get one thing out quickly: Lesli, dear, I know what you mean about feeling older and less beautiful. But fuggedaboutit (or however you spell that). Here's a song for you, and for everyone, for the morning, from our old friend Carole: You've got to get up every morning with a smile on your face And show the world all the love in your heart Then people gonna treat you better You're gonna find, yes, you will That you're beautiful as you feel Waiting at the station with a workday wind a-blowing I've got nothing to do but watch the passers-by Mirrored in their faces I see frustration growing And they don't see it showing, why do I? You've got to get up every morning with a smile on your face And show the world all the love in your heart Then people gonna treat you better You're gonna find, yes, you will That you're beautiful as you feel I have often asked myself the reason for sadness In a world where tears are just a lullaby If there's any answer, maybe love can end the madness Maybe not, oh, but we can only try You've got to get up every morning with a smile on your face And show the world all the love in your heart Then people gonna treat you better You're gonna find, yes, you will That you're beautiful as you feel I still think that your picture is beautiful, and so is your spirit. So "feel" that! So there! Forget those LA beauties and the young ones....although I do know how you feel, when I walk across campus and see all the bright young faces, barely clad in what looks like underwear (those skimpy jersey bottoms w/ UCONN or their high school advertised on their butts....sheesh!). All Joni people are totally beautiful. That's my two cents before dreamland. Love and peace, Patti P. NPIMH: (Oh, Muller, I am so sorry for dragging out another moldie oldie, but I really do have this in my head right now!) Itchycoo Park Steve Marriot/Ronnie Lane Over bridge of sighs to rest my eyes In shades of green Under dreaming spires, to Itchycoo park That's where I've been What did you do there? I got high What did you feel there? Well I cried But why the tears there? Tell you why It's all too beautiful, it's all too beautiful it's all too beautiful, it's all too beautiful I feel inclined to blow my mind Get hung up feed the ducks with a bun They all come out to groove about While I search for fun in the sun I tell you what I'll do (What will you do?) I'd like to go there now with you You can miss out school(Won't that be cool?) Why go to learn the words of fools What do we do there? Well get high (What will we touch there?) We'll touch the sky But why the tears there? I'll tell you why It's all too beautiful, it's all too beautiful It's all too beautiful, it's all too beautiful I feel inclined to blow my mind ....... It's all too beautiful _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:04:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: Re: failure delivery - ----- Original Message ---- From: "MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com" To: ingridlochrenberg@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:58:25 AM Subject: failure delivery Message from yahoo.com. Unable to deliver message to the following address(es). : This address no longer accepts mail. - --- Original message follows. Return-Path: The original message is over 5k. Message truncated to 1K. 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It must be a crime to be this compelling of an artist. Short excerpt from the liner notes written by Tom: "What's Orphans? I don't know. Orphans is a dead end kid driving a coffin with big tires across the Ohio River wearing welding goggles and a wife beater with a lit firecracker in his ear. Gathering all this material together was like rounding up chickens at the beach. These are the ones that survived the flood and were rescued from the branches of trees after the water's retreat..." Tom Waits... one of the greatest male songwriters on the planet. Les, hoping someone notices... ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #433 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------