From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #412 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, November 2 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 412 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Green Flag Song ["Kate Bennett" ] Danilo's Debut [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: In Search of Joni in Saskatoon [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Voodoo (NJC) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Danilo's Debut [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Great article on the upcoming Dave & Robin show [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Tonight - Open to Public: Graham Nash showing portraits includes Joni [e] The Morrissey interview ["c Karma" ] re: The Morrisey interview ["c Karma" ] Re: Hillary Clinton Is Too Ambitious To Be The First Female President - NJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: Voodoo (NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Joni's opening :) ["Patti Parlette" ] njc, Hiillary vs. Condi ["Patti Parlette" ] joni and rosie [Robert Procyk ] RE: Hillary Clinton Is Too Ambitious To Be The First Female President - NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] art opening date [rsc1@humboldt.edu] Re: Joni's opening :) [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:00:03 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Green Flag Song Memememe! I'm planning to call Friday (day off) to get 2 invitations for me & Jeff. What time is the opening? >who all is coming to see the show? so far it's kakki and i --surely more folks are coming? i got my invitation and it has the same pictures as the Art in America ad. interesting. If you're thinking about coming get a move on because they want rsvps by the 6th at the latest. mine also said it was not transferable. i think this is the same gallery where she had the exhibit of the photos that were featured on night ride home. i went to that show and it was very good. i'm so excited about seeing this new work! go joni! < ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 22:18:24 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Danilo's Debut Hello to all my Joni-buds. Firstly, thank you to Bob for another fine effort. I so look forward to your covers packages. It seems that it's the only way I get to hear about any Aussie folk acts. Not meaning to steal your thunder, I have my own gift to you all. After several months in the making, I have finally packaged up our own Danilo's fine efforts via youtube. He has had some very favourable comments on his videos and a growing number of fans. Word is getting out about this guy's talents. Danilo has covered a huge chunk of Joni's back catalogue now and I have been extracting the audio. It has now grown into a double CD and I have designed a CD cover for it. I only wish I had the means to get it released on the open market. In the meantime, Danilo has given me permission to make it available for the JMDL. The album is titled, "Danilo - For Free; The Songs of Joni Mitchell". You can download part one along with the CD cover here: http://www.yousendit.com/download/25nDOuwAQa8%3D You can download part two here: http://www.yousendit.com/download/25lMtd9nkY8%3D I would love to read your feedback about this recording. I'm sure Danilo would too. The standout tracks for me are; No Apologies, Woodstock (MOA arrangement), Electricity, Don Juan's Reckless Daughter, For The Roses, Cherokee Louise, The Boho Dance and his beautiful slow arrangement of Black Crow. Enjoy. Mark in Sydney NP Black Crow - Danilo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 22:22:46 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: In Search of Joni in Saskatoon Hi Mike. There were several mashups of Joni's songs included in the Joni Remixed Project that I released a couple of months ago. If you missed it, I'd be happy to send it again. Mark in Sydney NP Stardust (Stevieland Mix) - Joni ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:00:36 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Art in America Sorry. My access is to the articles, but not the advertising. Jerry > Jerry Notaro wrote: > >> I have access to it electronically, and one of our libraries subscribes to >> it. >> >> Jerry >> >> >>> > Does anyone have access to "Art in America" magazine? Apparently, there's a >>> > two-page ad for Joni's upcoming art show in the latest issue. > > > I found it. > > > > First page: a somber, grey add, advertising "green flag song" "Joni Mitchell > mixed media originals". > > > > 2nd page: 3 new works, all far more modern than most of her work (that I've > seen). Soldiers marching, a soldier giving directions, people (soldiers?) > carrying flags with an exacy reflection beneath them. (That's the best I can > do.) > > > > All are green, and look a bit like photo negatives. > > > > If Jerry can find an electronic version, perhaps he can post it some how. > > > > Michael Flaherty > > > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > 39663/*http://voice.yahoo.com> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 08:18:05 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Voodoo (NJC) Michael you ignorant slut.... I HAVE been talking about them for a couple of years now! What, do you have my address marked as "$pam" so all my posts go in the wrong folder? Just 2 weeks ago, I was advising Lama to add the DBT's to his Southern rock compilation. "Blessing & A Curse" is easily one of the strongest records of the year, incredible that they could follow up "The Dirty South" with something even stronger. And their 3.5 hour live show in Asheville this spring is one of the highlights of the year. Try and keep up, willya? Another highlight is coming up this weekend with Dave Blackburn's show...looks like it's turning into a Socal minifest! Bob NP: Bobby "Boris" Pickett, "Monster Mash" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Looking forward to getting this collection - thanks for the efforts, and don't worry about me - I'll come thundering back. Bob NP: Bowling For Soup, "Ghostbusters" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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In an effort to win back the House through the Nov. 7 mid-term elections, the event will benefit the progressive Democratic congressional candidates who oppose the Iraq War. At 7PM on Nov. 2, Nash and Holbert will also attend a second reception -- open to the public -- at 222 2nd Street in downtown Chico, adjacent to Butte's 2nd Street Digital Outdoor Gallery. In addition to the eight images on view in Oroville -- including portraits of David Crosby, Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell and Nash's self-portrait from the book cover of Eye To Eye -- five more will be on display outside at the 2nd Street Gallery, and seventeen more will be hung inside the reception space. For more information, contact Prof. Wickes' office at 530-895-2975. Originally published in hardcover in 2004, the book Eye to Eye: Photographs by Graham Nash will be released as a softcover edition in Spring 2007 by Five Ties Publishing. http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/news_press_release,14456.shtml Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:08:31 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: The Morrissey interview Hold on! My BS detector is ringing. Morrisey said, regarding the similiarity of Rickie Lee Jones debut album cover photo: "That's funny and so true. I remember when i first saw Rickie's sleeve, i was a teenager, maybe even younger, and the first thing i thought about was: That's her! That's Joni's missing daughter! And i was like - Doesn't ANYONE see it's HER?" I don't want to call him a sycophant, but Morrisey couldn't possibly have known about Kilauren's existence when he was a teenager even if inner music circles had the buzz. And it's doubtful that he had access to that type of vibe as a pre-teen. Joni carefully guarded that secret on Kilauren's behalf until the early 90s when she began her search, ultimately aided by Wally Breese. CC "The watchful ones among the slaves know all that is genuine will be scorned and conned and cast away." -- JM _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:13:32 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: re: The Morrisey interview Sorry. I misread Nuri's post about the Morrisey interview. It was Nuri who was the teen, not Morrisey. CC "Never mind." -- Emily Latella _________________________________________________________________ Add a Yahoo! contact to Windows Live Messenger for a chance to win a free trip! http://www.imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/yahoo/default.aspx?locale=en-us&hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:16:40 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Hillary Clinton Is Too Ambitious To Be The First Female President - NJC Bob, I love your take on the subject! (Smile) Sherelle >Bob wrote: > >But look at the bright side...come 2009 we'll either have our first woman >President or our first Black President. Either way is fine with me, the >white guys have had their run. Enough already with the white guys. > >Bob > >NP: Radiohead, "Electioneering" (a bit o' synchro in the NP!) > > _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:18:07 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Hillary Clinton Is Too Ambitious To Be The First Female President - NJC Thanks Jim! I've got it now! I really have to "get out" more don't I? (smile) Sherelle Jim wrote: >Sherelle, > >They're putting you on. "The Onion" is a parody/satire/humor organization. >Of course it's absurd to criticize a politician for trying to lead. They >"got 'cha". Pretend it's Andy Rooney reading it on "60 Minutes". > >They almost got me too. After the 2nd paragraph I thought, "Is he kidding? >Who is this guy? Ah-hah!" > >Jim L. > > >Sherelle, always the trusting soul, said, >Here's my only concern about this opinion; if Hillary were a man, wouldn't >these be considered admirable traits of leadership?> > >Gerald Collins of "The Onion" said, > >> Ever heard of letting others take the lead, Sen. Clinton?>> > >> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/48757 > _________________________________________________________________ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 08:24:23 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: re: The Morrisey interview LOL! OMG!!! "I don't want to call him a sycophant" No, that's quite ok, Karma, feel free to call me a sycophant. That's what i'm here for. Nuri c Karma wrote: Sorry. I misread Nuri's post about the Morrisey interview. It was Nuri who was the teen, not Morrisey. CC "Never mind." -- Emily Latella _________________________________________________________________ Add a Yahoo! contact to Windows Live Messenger for a chance to win a free trip! http://www.imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/yahoo/default.aspx?locale=en-us&hmtagline - --------------------------------- Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited Try it today. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:38:15 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Voodoo (NJC) Hi Paz! So glad that Voodoo Fest was a success! I knew that I knew the Meters but had to go back and find out why I knew them. Cissy Strut...yeah!! I remember that song well! I can see why the Red Hot Chili Peppers wanted to jam with them...they are icons! They had a very original style even then! (See link) http://www.amazon.com/Very-Best-Meters/dp/B0000033YT/sr=1-1/qid=1162484593/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0056979-3159231?ie=UTF8&s=music I also checked out Drive By Truckers and what an eclectic blend of music and sound! I felt like I was hearing a morph of the Eagles, Van Morrison, REM, early Rod Stewart, The Rolling Stones and Neil Young all at the same time! I can see why you liked them! (See link) http://www.amazon.com/Blessing-Curse-Drive-Truckers/dp/B000E97X6G/sr=1-1/qid=1162484948/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0056979-3159231?ie=UTF8&s=music Also glad old fart Simon LeBon did a good job! All in all, the whole event sounds like it was very exciting for you! Now dear friend....slow down and rest a bit! Love, Sherelle Paz wrote: HI Gang Voodoo Fest was a a lot of work but a lot of fun! The Meters set was incredible. After they finished on their stage we rushed them over to the other stage and they all sat in with the Red Hot Chili Peppers. It was over the top good. Both Julian and Mikey and a couple of their friends were with us and we were able to all be together in a special viewing platform above the stage. Julian and my favorite was the Bingo Show. Clint is such a great songwriter and singer and the show was amazing as always. Other highlights were Drive By Truckers (WHY HAVEN'T ANY OF YOU TOLD ME ABOUT THEM??? I LOVE THEM!! So much that I went to see them at Tips for a late night set when I should have gone home and crashed. Also Dan Dyer with Sam and Ruby. OMG!! They were incredible! They all sang the National Anthem at the Saints Game which I heard on the radio while I was helping move bands from the street to the stage (it was the mud folks, we had to truck them in). I did not know it was them until I heard their set and they sang it right there for all of us and talked about the experience of doing it. Thanks to my friend Linda who told me about them! Mikey loved Juvenile (help!) and I got him on stage along with 100 of Juve's closet pals and he and his girlfriend were thrilled especially when he came and stood right beside us and signed autographs for awhile. Mikey was too cool to ask for one. I got to drive a few of the guys from Ozomatli in a golf cart to see Duran Duran for a few tunes. They sounded pretty good for old farts. Simon LeBon celebrated his birthday at Stephen Rehage's (Voodoo Founder) house and my friends Linda and Thais were invited (that9s how I found out about Dan, Sam and Ruby). So many fun moments including having a few friends in from Chicago and getting to hang out with them as well. I topped the weekend off at the after party with a few cocktails where I got to talk to Dan and Ruby for awhile. Also got to play a few tunes on my friends guitar. At last a have a couple of weeks without all the hoopla so maybe I can catch up with you guys and see what I have been missing. Love to all, Paz _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:47:42 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: Joni's opening :) Lead Foot Kakki wrote: >Hee! > >All Jonified these days~ Why don't you all come out next week for Joni >madness?! > NPIMH: California I'm coming home I'm going to see the folks I dig I'll even kiss a Sunset pig California I'm coming home Oh, I wish good fortune allowed that I could sing this for real...that in the future I could say I bought me a ticket and caught me a plane to the city of the fallen angels to see all the pretty people there at this Joni peoples' party. They said "How long can you hang around?" I said a week maybe two Just until my skin turns brown Muller, are you extending your stay for all of this Joni hoopla? Who cares about the company store or your name on the door on the 33rd floor when you could be in Joni heaven? Dreams and schemes...I hope you can figure it out. It's NOT just another show. You'll leave 'em laughing, if you go. From Dave and Robin's birthday tribute show on the 4th, to Joni's b/day on the 7th, to the gallery opening (when I first saw your gallery I liked the ones of ladies) on the 10th, I'm thinking of some old show or skit or something called "That Was The Week That Was." LA is THEEE place to be babies, if you're not so square. You'll all be looking for a party, looking to raise Joni up from the dead.....thrilling to every Joni-thing said, rolling, rolling, rock and rollllllING! Jealous? Moi? Nah, just a *little* green. Love, Patti P., with the Lieberman blues inside and outside my head (he's undone all the joy that could be), but getting psyched up for another rally at lunchtime...on the bus. I'm on the bus! NPIMH: Beach Boy's "Fun Fun Fun" til someone takes Kakki's 57 Biscayne away...... alternating with All I wanna do is have some fun I got a feeling I'm not the only one All I wanna do is have some fun I got a feeling I'm not the only one Until the sun comes up over Santa Monica Boulevard _________________________________________________________________ Try the next generation of search with Windows Live Search today! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:10:51 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Hiillary vs. Condi A friend sent me this (it's secondhand) and the subject line was "un petit amusement". Kinda dumb, but pretty funny, if you're in the mood. http://i.euniverse.com/funpages/cms_content/13180/HillaryCondi_HoDown.swf I watched it with another French friend and we wrote back: "E. et moi, nous disons: C'est a se pisser dessus!" Monsieur le Smurf, qui ne fais jamais pee pee dans la piscine privee ou publique, can translate that for you. I've gotta run. xo, pp, "In the Mood" for the rally! _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:33:11 -0600 From: Robert Procyk Subject: joni and rosie Oh I hate to admit this, but back when Rosie first had her blog, my friends and I tried to get Rosie to comment on our blogs and she did visit my friend's blog and commented something about the L Word. She never did comment on mine but she did write a post in repsonse to something I said in her comments (She was saying that money doesn't make you any happier and I said a resounding 'bullshit' to that and said something about how it would be nice not to have a second job in order to pay off $30,000 of student loans since this cuts into time with kids, family commitments, etc. and therefore life would be a hell of a lot happier if I could pay that off sooner rather than later" and she said something to the tune of true enough, blah blah blah. Then, I once posted to the "Ask Ro" thing on Rosie's blog what three Joni songs she would take with her on a deserted island, and she replied back right away - hmmmm, of course, I can't remember what they were now - I think they were al l TI selections. For those of you who are blog-obsessed, Melissa Etheridge's wife has her own too which is a good read. Now if only we could get Rosanne Cash to blog - she does her "Mrs. L's monthly letter" but she'd be fun to read on a daily basis. Anyway, Rosie is Joni obsessed, so I have no doubt she'll find some way to raise Joni's profile. Rob, in freezing cold Saskatchwan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:15:35 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: Hillary Clinton Is Too Ambitious To Be The First Female President - NJC Hi Sherelle and all... Don't feel bad...I was thinking it was for real too...the first half anyway. I thought ...wow..we really haven't moved beyond that mentality that SOME had years ago....LIKE..."she should be home washing her dirty dishes." Let me shout...I love ambitious..opinionated ....dynamic ...confident ... women. I like people who stand up to what they truly believe. But the trouble with Hillary is ..that one really doesn't know her core beliefs..unless they do some digging... because she has to keep those a secret. But I also like honesty...sincerity....KINDNESS in women..... or in anybody.....these things trump everything ..anytime. Forgetting about her politics ..Hillary...at her core..Hillary unmasked ..... is not a nice person. Her politics..at their root...derive from a socialistic mindset....a philosophy so different than mine...and many voters. Why not be honest with the American people and tell them where you REALLY stand. She can't because she knows most people in this country fall somewhere in the middle.....her extreme views ..(what she really thinks).....if laid out.. aren't the kind of views that get people elected to the highest job in this land....the presidency. Her healthcare plan... IF implanted ...would have been a disaster for this country. And this wasn't just republicans saying this...at that time..Senator Moynihan said the following...referring to Hillary's grand scheme on healthcare..."deliberate dumbing down of medicine." "Working in secret," he also said..with regard to Hillary's methods.."is an abomination where science is concerned and is no less an offense to democratic governance." I will say this about Hillary..if I had just one ounce of her ambition..I could have ruled the world. But seriously...her vision for America is not one that I think will ever get her to that top spot that she so desperately wants. A spot..a place ..that even at a very young age ...at the age of twenty or so... her wheels were turning.. "what would look good on my political resume' "good for my political aspirations".....she tried to enlist in one of the branches of the military. They didn't take her because of her myopia. But just like the Kennedy clan patriarch..Joseph P. Kennedy demanded ...that his boys sign up and serve in the second world war..even though he was against the U.S. getting any involvement in that war. He knew military service would look mighty good for their political aspirations....his..theirs.. future goals in politics. Anyway..in a nutshell...I don't dig Hillary's brand of politics...her leanings...her style. Bree > >Thanks Jim! > >I've got it now! I really have to "get out" more don't I? (smile) > >Sherelle > >Jim wrote: > >>Sherelle, >> >>They're putting you on. "The Onion" is a parody/satire/humor >>organization. >>Of course it's absurd to criticize a politician for trying to lead. They >>"gotcha". Pretend it's Andy Rooney reading it on "60 Minutes". >> >>They almost got me too. After the 2nd paragraph I thought, "Is he >>kidding? >>Who is this guy? Ah-hah!" >> >>Jim L. >> >> >>Sherelle, always the trusting soul, said, >>Here's my only concern about this opinion; if Hillary were a man, wouldn't >>these be considered admirable traits of leadership?> >> >>Gerald Collins of "The Onion" said, >> >> Ever heard of letting others take the lead, Sen. Clinton?>> >> >> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/48757 >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Use your PC to make calls at very low rates >https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx _________________________________________________________________ Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search! http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:37:06 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: Voodoo (NJC) now DBT's Mostly due to the fact that they have three guitarist/songwriters in the band (Mike Cooley, Jason Isbell, Patterson Hood, and all of them grew up in Alabama but pushed back against country and even the southern rock of their day and gravitated towards Neil Young, AC/DC and such. And not just musically, but they are also very original lyrically as well - many of their songs toward darker themes, death, loss, broken American dreams, etc. They can also be funny as hell. And they love to play with and off of one another. You can stream their latest album here: http://www.drivebytruckers.com/extras.html I don't imagine that many Joni fans will be into these guys, but if you still like to rock they deliver the goods. Bob NP: The Rolling Stones, "Dead Flowers" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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Sherelle Bree: > >Hi Sherelle and all... > >Don't feel bad...I was thinking it was for real too...the first half >anyway. I thought ...wow..we really haven't moved beyond that >mentality that SOME had years ago....LIKE..."she should be home washing her >dirty dishes." > > >Let me shout...I love ambitious..opinionated ....dynamic ...confident ... >women. I like people who stand up to what they truly believe. But the >trouble with Hillary is ..that one really doesn't know her core >beliefs..unless they do some digging... because she has to keep those a >secret. But I also like honesty...sincerity....KINDNESS in women..... or >in anybody.....these things trump everything ..anytime. Forgetting about >her politics ..Hillary...at her core..Hillary unmasked ..... is not a nice >person. > >Her politics..at their root...derive from a socialistic mindset....a >philosophy so different than mine...and many voters. Why not be honest >with the American people and tell them where you REALLY stand. She can't >because she knows most people in this country fall somewhere in the >middle.....her extreme views ..(what she really thinks).....if laid out.. >aren't the kind of views that get people elected to the highest job in this >land....the presidency. > >Her healthcare plan... IF implanted ...would have been a disaster for this >country. And this wasn't just republicans saying this...at that >time..Senator Moynihan said the following...referring to Hillary's grand >scheme on healthcare..."deliberate dumbing down of medicine." "Working >in secret," he also said..with regard to Hillary's methods.."is an >abomination where science is concerned and is no less an offense to >democratic governance." > > >I will say this about Hillary..if I had just one ounce of her ambition..I >could have ruled the world. But seriously...her vision for America is not >one that I think will ever get her to that top spot that she so desperately >wants. A spot..a place ..that even at a very young age ...at the age of >twenty or so... her wheels were turning.. "what would look good on my >political resume' "good for my political aspirations".....she tried to >enlist in one of the branches of the military. They didn't take her >because of her myopia. But just like the Kennedy clan patriarch..Joseph >P. Kennedy demanded ...that his boys sign up and serve in the second world >war..even though he was against the U.S. getting any involvement in that >war. He knew military service would look mighty good for their political >aspirations....his..theirs.. future goals in politics. > >Anyway..in a nutshell...I don't dig Hillary's brand of politics...her >leanings...her style. > > >Bree > > >> >>Thanks Jim! >> >>I've got it now! I really have to "get out" more don't I? (smile) >> >>Sherelle >> >>Jim wrote: >> >>>Sherelle, >>> >>>They're putting you on. "The Onion" is a parody/satire/humor >>>organization. >>>Of course it's absurd to criticize a politician for trying to lead. >>>They >>>"gotcha". Pretend it's Andy Rooney reading it on "60 Minutes". >>> >>>They almost got me too. After the 2nd paragraph I thought, "Is he >>>kidding? >>>Who is this guy? Ah-hah!" >>> >>>Jim L. >>> >>> >>>Sherelle, always the trusting soul, said, >>>Here's my only concern about this opinion; if Hillary were a man, >>>wouldn't >>>these be considered admirable traits of leadership?> >>> >>>Gerald Collins of "The Onion" said, >>> >> Ever heard of letting others take the lead, Sen. Clinton?>> >>> >> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/48757 >>> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Use your PC to make calls at very low rates >>https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx > >_________________________________________________________________ >Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with >Live Search! >http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmtagline > _________________________________________________________________ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:27:25 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Hillary Clinton Is Too Ambitious To Be The First Female President - NJC What Hillary and Bill tried to convince the American people is that all healthcare costs us all, whether we pay directly or indirectly. Publicly funded hospitals and clinics must take everyone, and when they can't pay they must raise their price of services which in turn raises insurance rates for all of us. Hillary's plan was to insure everyone for a cost, and then have the government pay the premiums for the indigent. Though she failed, Republican Mitt Romney did the exact thing 13 years later in Massachusetts and was praised by the Republicans. Go figure. Jerry > Hi Bree, > > Thank you for your input. I'm trying to form an unbiased opinion of Hillary > Clinton and I need to know the real issues like this plan on healthcare that > did not happen. I don't like anyone "working in secret". I think the > American people deserve things to be as up front and on the table as is > politically possible. I know there are many politicians who "work in secret" > so I'm not trying to say that Hillary would be the only one. I just need to > do some more digging. > > Sherelle > > > Bree: >> >> Hi Sherelle and all... >> >> Don't feel bad...I was thinking it was for real too...the first half >> anyway. I thought ...wow..we really haven't moved beyond that >> mentality that SOME had years ago....LIKE..."she should be home washing her >> dirty dishes." >> >> >> Let me shout...I love ambitious..opinionated ....dynamic ...confident ... >> women. I like people who stand up to what they truly believe. But the >> trouble with Hillary is ..that one really doesn't know her core >> beliefs..unless they do some digging... because she has to keep those a >> secret. But I also like honesty...sincerity....KINDNESS in women..... or >> in anybody.....these things trump everything ..anytime. Forgetting about >> her politics ..Hillary...at her core..Hillary unmasked ..... is not a nice >> person. >> >> Her politics..at their root...derive from a socialistic mindset....a >> philosophy so different than mine...and many voters. Why not be honest >> with the American people and tell them where you REALLY stand. She can't >> because she knows most people in this country fall somewhere in the >> middle.....her extreme views ..(what she really thinks).....if laid out.. >> aren't the kind of views that get people elected to the highest job in this >> land....the presidency. >> >> Her healthcare plan... IF implanted ...would have been a disaster for this >> country. And this wasn't just republicans saying this...at that >> time..Senator Moynihan said the following...referring to Hillary's grand >> scheme on healthcare..."deliberate dumbing down of medicine." "Working >> in secret," he also said..with regard to Hillary's methods.."is an >> abomination where science is concerned and is no less an offense to >> democratic governance." >> >> >> I will say this about Hillary..if I had just one ounce of her ambition..I >> could have ruled the world. But seriously...her vision for America is not >> one that I think will ever get her to that top spot that she so desperately >> wants. A spot..a place ..that even at a very young age ...at the age of >> twenty or so... her wheels were turning.. "what would look good on my >> political resume' "good for my political aspirations".....she tried to >> enlist in one of the branches of the military. They didn't take her >> because of her myopia. But just like the Kennedy clan patriarch..Joseph >> P. Kennedy demanded ...that his boys sign up and serve in the second world >> war..even though he was against the U.S. getting any involvement in that >> war. He knew military service would look mighty good for their political >> aspirations....his..theirs.. future goals in politics. >> >> Anyway..in a nutshell...I don't dig Hillary's brand of politics...her >> leanings...her style. >> >> >> Bree >> >> >>> >>> Thanks Jim! >>> >>> I've got it now! I really have to "get out" more don't I? (smile) >>> >>> Sherelle >>> >>> Jim wrote: >>> >>>> Sherelle, >>>> >>>> They're putting you on. "The Onion" is a parody/satire/humor >>>> organization. >>>> Of course it's absurd to criticize a politician for trying to lead. >>>> They >>>> "gotcha". Pretend it's Andy Rooney reading it on "60 Minutes". >>>> >>>> They almost got me too. After the 2nd paragraph I thought, "Is he >>>> kidding? >>>> Who is this guy? Ah-hah!" >>>> >>>> Jim L. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sherelle, always the trusting soul, said, >>>> Here's my only concern about this opinion; if Hillary were a man, >>>> wouldn't >>>> these be considered admirable traits of leadership?> >>>> >>>> Gerald Collins of "The Onion" said, >>>>>> Ever heard of letting others take the lead, Sen. Clinton?>> >>>>>> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/48757 >>>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Use your PC to make calls at very low rates >>> https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with >> Live Search! >> http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en >> -US&source=hmtagline >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Use your PC to make calls at very low rates > https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:05:56 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Hillary Clinton Is Too Ambitious To Be The First Female President - NJC Thank you for that Jerry. That helps me as well! Did the Massachusetts plan ever go into effect? Sherelle >From: Jerry Notaro > >What Hillary and Bill tried to convince the American people is that all >healthcare costs us all, whether we pay directly or indirectly. Publicly >funded hospitals and clinics must take everyone, and when they can't pay >they must raise their price of services which in turn raises insurance >rates >for all of us. Hillary's plan was to insure everyone for a cost, and then >have the government pay the premiums for the indigent. Though she failed, >Republican Mitt Romney did the exact thing 13 years later in Massachusetts >and was praised by the Republicans. Go figure. > >Jerry _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:15:12 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Hillary Clinton Is Too Ambitious To Be The First Female President - NJC The bill, the product of months of wrangling between legislators and the governor, requires all Massachusetts residents to obtain health coverage by July 1, 2007. Individuals who can afford private insurance will be penalized on their state income taxes if they do not purchase it. Government subsidies to private insurance plans will allow more of the working poor to buy insurance and will expand the number of children who are eligible for free coverage. Businesses with more than 10 workers that do not provide insurance will be assessed up to $295 per employee per year. All told, the plan is expected to cover 515,000 uninsured people within three years, about 95 percent of the state's uninsured population, legislators said, leaving less than 1 percent of the population unprotected. > Thank you for that Jerry. That helps me as well! Did the Massachusetts plan > ever go into effect? > > Sherelle > > >> From: Jerry Notaro >> >> What Hillary and Bill tried to convince the American people is that all >> healthcare costs us all, whether we pay directly or indirectly. Publicly >> funded hospitals and clinics must take everyone, and when they can't pay >> they must raise their price of services which in turn raises insurance >> rates >> for all of us. Hillary's plan was to insure everyone for a cost, and then >> have the government pay the premiums for the indigent. Though she failed, >> Republican Mitt Romney did the exact thing 13 years later in Massachusetts >> and was praised by the Republicans. Go figure. >> >> Jerry > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://space > s.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:02:09 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Hillary Clinton Is Too Ambitious To Be The First Female President - NJC Thanks again Jerry. I would love to hear pros and cons of this plan. We need the working poor to be able to buy insurance, I do really believe this. So I would love to hear both sides of this if possible. I do value everyone's opinions here. Sherelle >From: Jerry Notaro > > > The bill, the product of months of wrangling between legislators and the >governor, requires all Massachusetts residents to obtain health coverage by >July 1, 2007. > > Individuals who can afford private insurance will be penalized on their >state income taxes if they do not purchase it. Government subsidies to >private insurance plans will allow more of the working poor to buy >insurance >and will expand the number of children who are eligible for free coverage. >Businesses with more than 10 workers that do not provide insurance will be >assessed up to $295 per employee per year. > > All told, the plan is expected to cover 515,000 uninsured people within >three years, about 95 percent of the state's uninsured population, >legislators said, leaving less than 1 percent of the population >unprotected. _________________________________________________________________ Try the next generation of search with Windows Live Search today! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:11:17 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Voodoo (NJC) now DBT's Thanks so much Bob!!! I love that you appreciate them also! I would love to see them live too! I really enjoy watching a band play off of each other! I'm sorry I can't remember the song now but I heard some amazing lyrics in one of the clips that I listened to. Sherelle >From: Bob.Muller > >and >sound!> > >Mostly due to the fact that they have three guitarist/songwriters in the >band (Mike Cooley, Jason Isbell, Patterson Hood, and all of them grew up >in Alabama but pushed back against country and even the southern rock of >their day and gravitated towards Neil Young, AC/DC and such. And not just >musically, but they are also very original lyrically as well - many of >their songs toward darker themes, death, loss, broken American dreams, >etc. They can also be funny as hell. And they love to play with and off of >one another. > >You can stream their latest album here: >http://www.drivebytruckers.com/extras.html > >I don't imagine that many Joni fans will be into these guys, but if you >still like to rock they deliver the goods. > >Bob > >NP: The Rolling Stones, "Dead Flowers" > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >The information transmitted is intended only for the person >or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, >business-confidential and/or privileged material. >If you are not the intended recipient of this message you >are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, >dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken >in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received >this in error, please contact the sender and delete the >material from any computer. 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Gus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:42:51 -0800 From: Subject: Re: Joni's opening :) Patti wrote: > Jealous? Moi? Nah, just a *little* green. Put that little green in reserve. I've heard that the gallery has now tightened up admission to the show next Friday night and it may not be assured that any of us get in except maybe Lesli! A bunch of us were planning on a gathering there but it may have to wait until another day. We shall see. > NPIMH: Beach Boy's "Fun Fun Fun" til someone takes Kakki's 57 Biscayne > away...... NPIMH: Back in 1957 We had to dance a foot apart And they hawk-eyed us from the sidelines Holding their rulers without a heart And so with just a touch of our fingers I could make our circuitry explode All we ever wanted Was just to come in from the cold (Ha - But I actually did put my Daddy's T-Bird in a ditch back in high school!) >All I wanna do is have some fun >Until the sun comes up over Santa Monica Boulevard My long time personal credo ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #412 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------