From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #409 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 1 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 409 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni on VH1 [Stephen Pelton Dance Theater ] njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Reminder: Vote for your favorite Logo! [AsharaProducLLC@aol.com] Re: In Search of Joni in Saskatoon [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: In Search of Joni in Saskatoon [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Joni on VH-1 [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: The LOL Joni Songs [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: In Search of Joni in Saskatoon [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: Ladies of the Canyon njc [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: The LOL Joni Songs [Dflahm@aol.com] Green Flag Song ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: thoroughly political NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Joni and God ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: joni currency, ["Lori Fye" ] Exchanging auras with Siquomb ["Patti Parlette" ] NJC Re: Exchanging auras with Siquomb [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: NJC Re: Exchanging auras with Siquomb ["Patti Parlette" ] mr. muller in his spare time? njc ["ron" ] Re: mr. muller in his spare time? njc [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] sjc, Joni's birthday celebration in San Diego ["Patti Parlette" ] NJC Re: sjc, Joni's birthday celebration in San Diego [Bob.Muller@Fluor.c] Joni Mention on THE VIEW (Rosie O.) [est86mlm@ameritech.net] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Green=20Flag=20Song=20artists=20at=20ope nings?= [] Joni's opening :) ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Joni's opening :) [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:11:36 +0000 From: Stephen Pelton Dance Theater Subject: Joni on VH1 Hey Mark in Sydney, Would be great if you could upload JM sings JM onto yousendit.com. I'd love to get it onto my computer. Thanks, SP - -- Stephen Pelton Stephen Pelton Dance Theater London/San Francisco ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:35:37 -0500 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc treats and treats to you all today. XOXO Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:14:36 EST From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: Reminder: Vote for your favorite Logo! Reminder- only a few more days to vote for your favorite logo!! Yes, my friends, it's time to vote for your favorite Jonifest 2007 logo! Thanks to all who sent in entries, and good luck to all of you! Rules: 1) Go to: _http://jonimitchell.com/jonifest/logocontest.cfm_ (http://jonimitchell.com/jonifest/logocontest.cfm) 2) Click on the link at the bottom to vote for the logo you like best! 3) Please, only 1 vote per person!! 4) All votes must be in by midnight, November 2nd, EST. Also, if you haven't signed up for Jonifest yet, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?? There have been several people asking for singles. If you haven't signed up yet because there aren't any singles available, you can e-mail me with a request to be put on a waiting list in the event some open up, which they probably will. (First priority will go to those already signed up who are on the waitlist.) Hugs, Ashara _www.jonifest.com_ (http://www.jonifest.com/) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:49:04 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: In Search of Joni in Saskatoon You bet, buddy. And I could definitely see one of us doing this...traipsing around 'Toon looking for Joni haunts and feeling dismay when residents shrug us off. Except for the fact of course that the reporter who does the piece doesn't really seem to 'get' Joni. Bob NP: Oleander, "Boys Don't Cry" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:13:21 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni on VH-1 Yes, but only a little - YOU are hands down/without a shadows and light of a doubt the JMOCD Meister. No, but here's the scoop, Betty Boop: http://www.robinadler.com/calendar.html < I want to invite my friend Alain to go. He's the one who met Joni's friends in Vancouver a few months ago. I'm thinking of that six degrees of separation thing...if Muller could meet Alain who met Joni's friends who had dinner w/Joni....> But...silly lucky girl - you are already two degrees away, having met lots of us who have met, talked with and otherwise exchanged auras with Siquomb directly. Bob NP: Chisel, "Six Different Ways" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:26:23 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: The LOL Joni Songs RoseMJoy wrote: "Why'd you have to get so drunk And lead me on that way....." Yes! Well done, Rosie! And the Saskatoon thread reminded me of another giggling Joni: "I mean after all she introduced us Oh but..." Nuri - --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:22:48 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: In Search of Joni in Saskatoon Bob wrote: "I'm sure that Donald Freed would much rather talk about other things..." Very true, Bob. Who, in the name of God's bronze mask, would want to be associated with that promiscuous slut Roberta Anderson in Saskatoon? Nuri - --------------------------------- We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:32:35 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Ladies of the Canyon njc You know, Ladies, i'd love to sit with you in some canyon and color the sunshine hours someday. Love, Nuri kbhla@sbcglobal.net wrote: Kate wrote: "Well I wanna be estrella when I grow up :~}, kakki no doubt is trina filling her drawing book with line... but, who will be annie?" Well, darn, this never occurred to me in my little teenage Joni world that I could identify with Trina! No wonder I was a B - student! Another family nickname besides Kakki was Katrina or Trina. Hey Kate, you can be a Trina, too! ;-) Nurianne asked: >Can i please be Annie? I'm baking such great brownies. You dibbed it - you got it! ;-) Katrina, er Kakki Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:43:31 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: The LOL Joni Songs "Why'd you have to get so drunk and lead me on that way?" YOU WERE BUYING!!! LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:55:42 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Green Flag Song How interesting! Is there an opening event (with the artist perhaps?) >GREEN FLAG SONG New Paintings at Lev Moross Gallery November 10-December 18, 2006 962 N. La Brea Avenue, Los Angeles CA 90038 (one block south of Santa Monica Boulevard) (323) 512-0151 levmorossgallery.com Regular Gallery hours: 10am  6pm Tuesday  Friday (10-5 Saturday)< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:02:02 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: thoroughly political NJC Good luck Richard! I suppose we who disagree with the president must be put in zones far away because in his typically unifying & brilliant style, our president has announced that those of us who DARE VOTE against (not to mention speak up against) republicans are supporting the terrorists. Richard >Of course we're being shunted off to so-called "free-speech zones." >Though I can understand your willingness to cooperate, I believe The Constitution still guarantees that the entire United States is a free speech zone. J< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:06:10 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Joni and God When practicing with my bass player, if we got into a jammy thing, he'd say with a big smile- uh oh, we let in the boogie monster... >Sherelle asked about "God must be a boogie man" I've always thought of this like "hey, let's boogie!"< [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:22:26 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: joni currency, "I'm down to a roll of dimes" from The Dry Cleaner from Des Moines Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:18:09 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Exchanging auras with Siquomb Musik Meister Muller schreibt: "No, but here's the scoop, Betty Boop: http://www.robinadler.com/calendar.html " Merci, monsieur! And LOL! "Here's the scoop, Betty Boop"......tee hee....that reminds me of something (idiomatic logic or whatever). In 8th grade my best friend Carolyn Pocatello used to call me Patti Poopah. She lived in my neighborhood off of Patterson Avenue in Goleta/SB. She had the *best* laugh I've ever heard. Does anyone know her out there in this big wide Joni world? She had dark hair and was petite. She would be almost 53 now. Her birthday was in November, I think. Yes! November 18th! (Electric flash Just like lightening striking from above) I would love to find her. She was originally from some Canadian province....maybe it was Saskatchewan or Alberta...I can't remember...that was pre-Joni time for me....(1967 B.J.) Oops! Sorry....I went off in the Santa Barbara clouds there for a minute! MMM again: But...silly lucky girl - you are already two degrees away, having met lots of us who have met, talked with and otherwise exchanged auras with Siquomb directly. - --- Hey, I'm one degree, too! Didn't I ever tell you how I shook her impossibly gentle hand? Yes, siree Bob! It was at the New Haven Coliseum, early seventies. I looked at the appearances list and I'm not sure which date. It was NOT 2/23/76 because I was on the right side. No, at this concert I was on the left, way way in the back. And it can't be the 11/13/75 date because it says Dylan and Baez and others were there, but I do not remember them being there. Unless, of course, I blocked everyone out but Joni (C'est possible? Peut-etre). As I said, I was way in the back. But I was on some kind of mission that night. Slowly, purposefully, step by step, with many many "excuse me"s, by the end of the show, I found myself at the foot of the stage. Joni graciously bent down to shake a few hands. And one of them was mine. ELECTRICITY! ZAPPED! (I'm picturing the Sistine Chapel in the clouds of Michelangelo when God reaches out to create Adam.) O Holy Night. I touched Joni Mitchell! Maybe *that's* when I got JMOCD zapped. Love, Patti Poopah _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:53:43 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: NJC Re: Exchanging auras with Siquomb Patti Poopah! Man, can't wait to see what Smurf does with that. We had a neighbor named Patty when we lived in Flint, MI - our nickname for her was "Hamburger Patty" - certainly not as original as Patti Poopah but just as denigrating. LOL Very cool that you had the handshake experience - have you washed it yet? And you know...the way Joni has popped up in the news, making music, hosting new art exhibits...she just may pop in and catch Dave & Robin's show - especially if word gets out that **I'LL** be there. Bob NP: 10CC, "Wall Street Shuffle" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:58:48 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: RE: NJC Re: Exchanging auras with Siquomb >Patti Poopah! Man, can't wait to see what Smurf does with that. Smurfy won't do nuttin' with that. I happen to know that he likes my P'sfulness. > >And you know...the way Joni has popped up in the news, making music, >hosting new art exhibits...she just may pop in and catch Dave & Robin's >show - especially if word gets out that **I'LL** be there. > Hell, YEAH! xo, pp _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 07:25:56 +1100 From: "don whiteman" Subject: Wembley 83 Offer Closed Annother Aussie Frank from Umina will reoffer this DVD. Cheers Don Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:18:07 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: mr. muller in his spare time? njc hi i was busy watching some happy videos - check out the name of the drummer? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Cpi4_-i3w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHaUqUtC4xs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyG_g73R0wY ron np - cat chasing a moth around the room ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:39:30 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: mr. muller in his spare time? njc Man, I do get around...and I would have been a great drummer with my acute sense of rhythm. It was funny, I was expecting "happy" songs based on what you said and the one that I watched (the first one) was sounding anything BUT happy. Maybe she needs to change her name. Bob NP: Seven Nations, "Ordinary" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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It's at Dizzy's, at the edge of San Diego's East Village. http://www.robinadler.com/calendar.html You should go so you can tell your Joni friends in Vancouver about it next time you see them.....et moi, aussi. Please consider it. Some of my Joni friends are going and I could "introduce" you to some fine people. Joni people are the best. Tu sais bien! You play the guitar. You write poetry. You sculpt. You love art. You would love Joni! She is multi-talented, like you. You would be definitely "feeling groovy" if you went! I promise. Have I ever lied to you? Peace, Pattiparlette.com, the home of the groovy hippie (I still have that poster you made on my door.) _________________________________________________________________ Try the next generation of search with Windows Live Search today! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:05:12 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, a letter from Barack Obama Again, my sincere apologies to non-Americans. Just delete this now. Love, Patti P. A message from Barack Obama: Dear Friend, It's come down to this. After months of hard work and big hopes, we've got seven days left to change America - seven days to affirm our belief in better days ahead. In seven days, voters across America will have the opportunity to vote for the America we dream of - to vote for a change in Washington that will allow our government to start working for the people it represents. It's a change that means renewed efforts to make health care affordable and available for all Americans. It's a change that means the oil companies won't be writing our energy policy so we'll have a chance for real energy independence in this country. It's a change that means a new Iraq policy so that we can change course and start bringing our troops home. All of this - and more, is possible - but only if you show up and VOTE. If you stay home, and don't demand change with the power of your VOTE, we'll face two more years of the same failed leadership and the same failed course. We can do better. We must do better. It's this easy: Exercise your right to VOTE. Forward this email to everyone in your address book with your personal request for them to VOTE for CHANGE. Together, we can convince millions of Americans that we can have a brighter future and a better America if they show up and VOTE for CHANGE. Forward this to your address book - and ask your friends and family to forward it on too - with a simple message: VOTE for CHANGE. Sincerely, U.S. Senator Barack Obama P.S. Join my campaign for change, www.barackobama.com. _________________________________________________________________ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:15:53 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: NJC Re: sjc, Joni's birthday celebration in San Diego Don't try too hard - I've never dated guys and I don't intend to start anytime soon (no offense to my guy-dating brothers out there). I already have a state-of-the-art JMDL escort/date anyway...the lovely and talented Ms. Lindsay Moon! Bob NP: XTC, "Are You Receiving Me" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:39:48 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Joni Mention on THE VIEW (Rosie O.) Today on The View a discussion broke out about Paris Hilton and her sex/porno video. It went something like this: Joy Baher: Back in the day, we would send her (Paris Hilton) to the Sisters of the Mary Magdelene Rosie O'Donnel: That wonderful Joni MItchell song. Laura *************************************** FUN FREES https://olaydefinity.offerprocessingcenter.com/?source=Olaycomsamples http://www.olay.com/samplesandoffers/ Joni says: "Mostly I use Oil of Olay products: their body lotion, night cream and Olay Complete, which has a mild sunscreen in it for day. I use their Age Defying cleanser for my face. Nothing will alter the fact that I've been here sixty years, but they keep a little light exfoliation going. It's a pretty simple regimen. For me, the best products are not necessarily the most expensive ones" see: http://www.jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1461 Joni Mitchell page 120 of the book Paul Starr on Beauty Go to: http://www.paulstarrmakeup.com/ and click on ARCHIVE - then click on MUSIC - click on MUSIC 01 for pictures of Joni on Vanity Fair Cover and Music 04 and use the slider to go to the end of the page. I'm guessing the guy in the picture is the caretaker of her British Columbia home, Hans (she speaks about him in the article) Anyone know for sure? Click on FILM - then Click on music and film. Click on Joni Mitchell & Seal: "How do you Stop" for a photo slide show. This area is fun to see all the musicians and their videos that Paul Starr worked on. Joni can also be seen in the Compilation Demo Reel here. Just click on it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:00:27 -0758 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Green=20Flag=20Song=20artists=20at=20ope nings?= Yes She'll be there!!!! you need to have an invitation! Call and voila you can get one. AND some of her work will be for sale. Dig that!! - ---------- Original Message ------------- Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:57:42 -0758 From: "Kate Bennett" To: Subject: Green Flag Song >How interesting! Is there an opening event (with the artist perhaps?) > >>GREEN FLAG SONG > >New Paintings at Lev Moross Gallery > >November 10-December 18, 2006 > >962 N. La Brea Avenue, Los Angeles CA 90038 > >(one block south of Santa Monica Boulevard) > >(323) 512-0151 > >levmorossgallery.com > >Regular Gallery hours: 10am  6pm > >Tuesday  Friday (10-5 Saturday)< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:15:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Joni's opening :) All right, Kakki. Get on that phone. You know you are the list reporter for anything Joni in L.A.! LESLI A WATTS wrote: > Yes She'll be there!!!! you need to have an invitation! Call and voila > you can get one. > > AND some of her work will be for sale. Dig that!! > > > ---------- Original Message ------------- > Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:57:42 -0758 > From: "Kate Bennett" > To: > Subject: Green Flag Song > > >>How interesting! Is there an opening event (with the artist perhaps?) >> >>>GREEN FLAG SONG >> >>New Paintings at Lev Moross Gallery >> >>November 10-December 18, 2006 >> >>962 N. La Brea Avenue, Los Angeles CA 90038 >> >>(one block south of Santa Monica Boulevard) >> >>(323) 512-0151 >> >>levmorossgallery.com >> >>Regular Gallery hours: 10am  6pm >> >>Tuesday  Friday (10-5 Saturday)< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:23:20 -0800 From: Subject: Re: Joni's opening :) Yes! Whoo hoo de doo! Thanks to Les and Lesli for filling me in on details. I'm chained to the company store these days but will throw myself on the floor in a hissing, ranting fit if they don't let me off the chain that night! ;-) I'll tell them I am an "official reporter" for Joni's site. Yeah, that's the ticket! They will like that and feel compelled to free me - hee! Kakki (feeling a bit aggressive after another 12 hour day - grrrr! ;-) > All right, Kakki. Get on that phone. You know you are the list reporter > for anything Joni in L.A.! > > LESLI A WATTS wrote: >> Yes She'll be there!!!! you need to have an invitation! Call and >> voila >> you can get one. >> >> AND some of her work will be for sale. Dig that!! ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #409 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------