From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #404 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, October 28 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 404 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: NJC at all, Nick Cave and Blixavision [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: I've been absent (NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: I've been absent (NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Marcie ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Marcie [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: I've been absent (NJC) [Victor Johnson ] Re: I've been absent (NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: sherelle smith njc ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: joni currency, ["Some Millers" ] Joni, god and Kate's house (njc) [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:14:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: NJC at all, Nick Cave and Blixavision Benedicte Nielsen wrote: I wrote: "Yep. And if you want to know how it all began, Bene, (in case you didn't already, i bet you did though), check out "The Birthday Party", Nick's first band, pure melodic Punk" "Hey Thanks for this, that's very interesting! Punk as a genre, different from punk-rock is new to me, I used to think punk and punk-rock was the same thing, but I've become wiser. Doesnt happen that often..." Nick is a good example of a musician dividing his own fans, and in the history of music (probably since day 1) there are many great divides of the same nature. Some of his fans claim that they really love his music but when it comes to his Punk days (The Birthday Party years) they hardly even know/heard it and if they do then they don't seem to like it much or simply ignore it. But same goes to those fans who got to know him during his Punk days, and THEY can't stand his ballads a-la piano era. He managed to confuse most of his fans with his artistic split. "Blixa Bargeld, who is also in Einstuerzende Neubauten which is I guess as experimental as it gets" "Now wasn't Blixa the first thing i wrote about in my first post to you, Bene?:)))) "Uhm... or maybe we watch the same TV programs, because when you tried to fool me into thinking you and everyone else on the list apart for me and Bob were Blixa, the Zuerich Hausfrau, you didn't succeed because I had just seen Blixa Bargeld on TV and he was not a Hausfrau, not a Frau at all. Im just dang smart, that's one thing I've got." hehehe... Well i hate saying that, Bene, but i did fool you. Seems to me that you didn't and still don't understand what the "everyone is Blixa" metaphor was all about. Others did, though. If you're dang smart then maybe someday you'll understand. "Happy days in Nuristan" Happy days in Benelux Nuri - --------------------------------- Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Yahoo! Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:01:59 +1000 From: "Ashley" Subject: Bob.....NJC Critics, fans pan Dylan show Saturday Oct 28 09:17 AEST A new musical set to the songs of Bob Dylan has left critics = disappointed and fans disillusioned with the iconic musician's decision = to allow his songs to be set on the stage. The Times They Are A-Changin', which made its Broadway debut on = Thursday night, was conceived and choreographed by Twyla Tharp, who = transformed Billy Joel's songs into the Tony-award winning Movin' Out = which enjoyed a successful three-year run on Broadway. But reviews for the Dylan show found critics saying Tharp's concept, = which presents Dylan's songs as a fable about a struggling circus, did = little justice to the vivid imagery of the musician's lyrics. "Mr. Dylan is one of the greatest songwriters of the postwar era and = Ms. Tharp one of its most admired choreographers, so how bad could it = be," wrote The Wall Street Journal's Terry Teachout. "Now I know: The = Times They Are A-Changin' is so bad that it makes you forget how good = the songs are." =20 =20 =20 The New York Post mocked the show with a headline that said Knock, = knock, knockin' on heaven help us door, playing on the title of one of = Dylan's most famed songs. Some said the musical, first staged last year in San Diego, followed = other musical failures including last year's flop Lennon about the late = Beatle. New York Times' critic Ben Brantley called the Dylan show "the latest = heart-rending episode in Broadway's own reality soap opera, When bad = shows happen to great songwriters." A representative for Dylan did not return calls for comment. Fans commenting on Internet blogs said the show lacked subtlety and = one wondered, "How could Dylan have given permission for such a thing?" Dylan approached Tharp three years ago after the success of Movin' Out = and handed over his catalogue to the choreographer, the musical's public = relations firm said. The musical is the once-reclusive rock poet's latest foray out of the = purely musical world. He published his autobiography in 2004 and had = made several advertising ventures, including appearing in television = commercials promoting his new album Modern Times, Apple's iTunes and = iPod and even a Victoria's Secret lingerie ad. He used the national coffee chain Starbucks to sell his new album and = also sold the No Direction Home soundtrack to Martin Scorsese's Dylan = documentary, which aired on America's PBS television channel. Music critic Dave Marsh said Dylan had followed other musicians = branching out into other ventures such as The Who's rock opera Tommy. =A9AAP 2006 [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of space.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 03:42:25 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: I've been absent (NJC) Oh My apologies! I'll look him up now! Thanks Victor! Love, Sherelle >From: Victor Johnson >To: "Sherelle Smith" >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: I've been absent (NJC) >Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:26:05 -0400 > >>I love it! Is this the same Randy Jackson who is also a judge on American >>Idol? I took a moment to read up on his history and it's an impressive >>one. I'm a big fan of Jean Luc Ponty and I read that he played bass with >>him at one point. He produced an album for hubby Rob's favorite artist >>Zucchero. If this is the same Randy Jackson, forget American Idol! This >>guy is a talent unto himself! >> > > >Different Randy Jackson...great band though! They had a really good >sound. They had a hit with "Who's Behind the Door." One of the good >bands from the 80's. > >Victor > >NP: Cards and Tigers _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 03:46:16 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: I've been absent (NJC) Hi Victor, Is this the right Randy? Sherelle http://www.glam-metal.com/randyjackson.html Victor wrote: > >> > > >Different Randy Jackson...great band though! They had a really good >sound. They had a hit with "Who's Behind the Door." One of the good >bands from the 80's. > >Victor > >NP: Cards and Tigers _________________________________________________________________ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:05:14 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Marcie The song takes place in winter & the last she saw him (or heard from him) was the dreamy summer time... (Joni's daughter was born in Feb so conceived in late spring or early summer) Waving another day goodbye (each day significant because each day brings her closer to the inevitable birth of her child)... many of the things she is doing while waiting are that of someone who is 'preparing the nest' (washing, dusting) ... also she needs the plumbing fixed... and there is no one to take her to the sea- it seems so much more than just love... she needs this guy for something fundamentally important (as a father is to a child, and a husband is to his pregnant wife & soon to be child raising wife)... to her child, & supporter of her both emotionally & physically) maybe it is about someone else, but it sure seems like it was emotionally informed by that moment in time... and then there is the ending where may have bought a ticket to go west (where her boyfriend, the father of her child, moved to --as she wrote in little green) and yes, it is a thousand times sadder to have a relationship fall apart (or be unrequited or disappear or whatever) when a child is involved... and I would imagine a thousand times sadder than that to be having a child but no father in sight... >Good theory Kate. I don't think the love was unrequited. Perhaps he was married, perhaps he died, perhaps he was Hubble. I can' t imagine anything a thousand times more painful than unrequited love and most certainly anything more painful than love once had that no longer can be so. Mack> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:36:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Marcie Catherine wrote: "Marcie did kind of drift off like an autumn leaf, not terribly noticed, didn't she? "Someone *thought* they saw her..." "Someone *heard* she bought a one-way ticket and went west again." No one really knows for sure. I guess she didn't tell anyone." I see it as a limbo. You're not here and you're not there, so you simply start doing things in an "Auto" way, to numb both your despair and hope. Sometimes it's hope that we numb the most, you know. She's cleaning the house, she buys candy, she even goes to a show - and it all seems like a distraction, like she's having the attention diverted from living to "living". Life goes on but in a frozen way. Act one ended, and while you're waiting for the second act to begin, you find yourself living an intermission. It's a brief time but it seems to last forever. When i was a child and my Father died - my Mother acted exactly like Marcie. She was a young woman, a widow, so she switched herself into the "Auto" mode. From cleaning the windows with my Father's towel to going to the movies alone - those days in her life and the way she acted back then are always with me whenever i hear the song. A couple of years ago i had a conversation with a friend, a lovely girl, a very bright girl, and she was about to get married then and the topic of betrayal came up, and so naturally we were talking about cheating husbands, cheating wives, you know, and then she suddenly said something like "well there's the worst kind of betrayal - and that is when your partner dies". I'll never forget that. Nuri - --------------------------------- We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:38:09 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: I've been absent (NJC) > Hi Victor, > > Is this the right Randy? > > Sherelle > > http://www.glam-metal.com/randyjackson.html > > Victor wrote: That's the one! Victor, heading to bed after seeing some live jazz in Atlanta ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:40:47 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: I've been absent (NJC) Oooh! Live Jazz! So nice Victor! Goodnight and thank you! Sherelle >From: Victor Johnson >To: "Sherelle Smith" >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: I've been absent (NJC) >Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:38:09 -0400 > > >>Hi Victor, >> >>Is this the right Randy? >> >>Sherelle >> >>http://www.glam-metal.com/randyjackson.html >> >>Victor wrote: > > >That's the one! > >Victor, heading to bed after seeing some live jazz in Atlanta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:16:50 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: sherelle smith njc Oh Mack! You are so welcome! You are so welcome my friend! What a beautiful, beautiful post! I will keep it and cherish it always dear friend. My love to your elderly mother and I will keep you in my heart as well... Love, Sherelle Mack wrote: A day with elderly mother and troubled family. Exhausted and stress too great to express here in words in such a short space. Trouble at home, work the usual grind that would make hair be pulled out if enough remained to matter. Mountains of problems weighing down upon the head. Into car to return home and faced with the long highway and the neurotic craziness that it causes in the head of someone that inherited fear of driving. Cell phone in hand and friends waiting for the call I would not make while driving. Searching through the cd's looking for something to salve, something to caress, something to help, something!!!!!!!!!! None would do, needed a friend. And then............... Sherelle, sweet Sherelle. Into the player she went and then it all didn't seem quite so powerful and the darkness held much less power. She took me home, the entire length. Thank ya darling. mack _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:13:00 -0400 From: "Some Millers" Subject: Re: joni currency, Don't forget the mother lode of currency referred to in DED's "Tax Free". "Multiple hundreds of thousands of..." Tax free "Hundreds and millions of dollars" Tax free "A hundred billion dollars!" > Are there any other references to currencies in joni's songs? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:53:11 -0700 From: Subject: Joni, god and Kate's house (njc) Kate wrote: "kakki, you speak my heart this time... I so agree... (just drifting back & remembering the day that was some kind of celestial/visionary/space in time open door moment... when you were up at my house & so was victor & I had just met vince the jacoesque bass player (my good friend now) & we toasted with something bubbly ... but didn't smash our empty glasses down" Wow! I remember that day so vividly and yes, we were full of spirit in every good way ;-). Vince was a gem to meet and I also remember Victor and I discovering the little cave room and romping among the boulders in the extended canyon of your "backyard," heehee! (Hey Victor, we miss you out here, come back again!) It's sweet to hear you thought it was special. I always felt really happy both times at your wonderful house and raved to everyone I knew about you and Jeff and the place each time I visited. I was kind of sad to hear that you had moved away, although I'm sure your new place is very special, too. Thank you always for your hospitality to me. Kakki ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #404 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------