From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #399 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, October 25 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 399 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: HAPPY B-DAY MAGS!!! & Hejira clip download ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #396 ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? [karen ] Re: njc, Barack Obama ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: njc, Feeling....Marcy ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: njc, Feeling....Marcy [Jerry Notaro ] Re: London listers - shameless Stryngs gig plug (NJC) ["Sherelle Smith" <] Re: njc, Barack Obama ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: John Michael Talbot, njc ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: James Taylor NJC [kenevans@umich.edu] Re: njc, Feeling....Marcy [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: njc, Feeling....Marcy [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? [Michael Flaherty ] Re: joni & god [Catherine McKay ] RE: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? ["Azeem" ] Re: John Michael Talbot, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] NJC Joni, now Nick Cave, and God [Benedicte Nielsen ] Re: London listers - shameless Stryngs gig plug (NJC) ["Martin Giles" Subject: RE: HAPPY B-DAY MAGS!!! & Hejira clip download Happy Birthday Mags! Richard - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Sherelle Smith Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:59 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: HAPPY B-DAY MAGS!!! & Hejira clip download Happy Birthday Mags!!!! May you have many more! Pat, thanks for the Heijira clip! It takes a while to download on "Ole Bessie" but I will try to see it! Sherelle Pat wrote: HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you MAGS and many happy returns!!! Also here is a freebee Hejira clip download for all Jonibuds! http://www.yousendit.com/download/%2BcZGIdFEUTk%3D Cheers, Pat _________________________________________________________________ Add a Yahoo! contact to Windows Live Messenger for a chance to win a free trip! http://www.imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/yahoo/default.aspx?locale=en-us &hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:38:08 -0400 From: karen Subject: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? Hi folks, Is Joni really making a new album??? Could it really be true??? Do you know when it will be released? Ohmygod!!! What do you think, you guys are the experts, will she tour it??? I have never (aaaaargh) seen Joni live and it is a life-long dream, which I had really given up hope on, given her whole retirement and feelings about the music biz. But ... Dare I hope??? What do you think?? loveandaffectionkaren ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:44:13 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #396 Hi Isadora... I'm curious...do you like Joni because she is magical or are you a witch who just happens to like her music? Do more witches appreciate her music then non-witches? Thanks in advance! Bree magic with her life on a much grander scale later on. But then, that was no mean feat of hers, either, I'd say, back by the childhood Yule/Xmas tree. I've always found Joni to be very magical. > > >>...to walk again. > > > >And more importantly for Joni....DANCE! > > >Bob > >My thoughts exactly! ;-) > > >May your steps be joyful >in the Lady's Dance of Life! > >Isadora > >http://www.ladyisadora.com > > >"Well-behaved women rarely make history." >--Laurel Thatcher Ulrich > >--------------------------------- >Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:51:30 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? She really is writing and recording. Whether it ever gets released and she tours is pretty much up to her. We are all as excited and hoping as much as you are, believe me. Jerry > Hi folks, > > Is Joni really making a new album??? > Could it really be true??? > Do you know when it will be released? > > Ohmygod!!! > > What do you think, you guys are the experts, will she tour it??? > > I have never (aaaaargh) seen Joni live and it is a life-long dream, which I > had really given up hope on, given her whole retirement and feelings about > the music biz. But ... Dare I hope??? > > What do you think?? > > loveandaffectionkaren ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:53:28 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: njc, Barack Obama And we hate America too...don't forget that one. Last week I was working up in Raleigh, parking cars for the NC State Fair, which meant taking money and directing traffic. It was not unusual for people to ask for a discount on parking, they were usually joking but sometimes not. One guy in his 30's pulled up and asked if he could get a military discount - since we could "comp" one car a day, I told him "of course, just like every other Democrat I honor your service and support our troops - straight ahead and they'll show you where to park". He may still be processing that one. I also thought about you Patti when I saw a bumper sticker on the back of a Jeep that said "Give War A Chance"...ouch, that was painful. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Road To Peace" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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Are you guys ( I say you guys because I am still a newbie on this list! ) in touch with Joni's manager, I mean are you friendly? Like would he/she give you the heads up on any touring Joni might consider doing? Now that is a concert I would travel far and wide to see if need be!!! I know I am singing to the choir here and you all must be so happy, but ... WOW! : ) loveandaffectionkaren On 10/25/06 2:51 PM, "Jerry Notaro" wrote: > She really is writing and recording. Whether it ever gets released and she > tours is pretty much up to her. We are all as excited and hoping as much as > you are, believe me. > > Jerry > > > > >> Hi folks, >> >> Is Joni really making a new album??? >> Could it really be true??? >> Do you know when it will be released? >> >> Ohmygod!!! >> >> What do you think, you guys are the experts, will she tour it??? >> >> I have never (aaaaargh) seen Joni live and it is a life-long dream, which I >> had really given up hope on, given her whole retirement and feelings about >> the music biz. But ... Dare I hope??? >> >> What do you think?? >> >> loveandaffectionkaren ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:09:44 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? What do you think??> The album is a definite - I'd be REAL surprised if she was up for a tour. Of course I hope I'm REAL wrong! Bob NP: Judy Dyble with Songs From The Blue House, "I Don't Know Where I Stand" (pretty nice, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6P3_ZLhOkc ) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Of > course I hope I'm REAL wrong! > > Bob > > NP: Judy Dyble with Songs From The Blue House, "I Don't Know Where I Stand" > (pretty nice, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6P3_ZLhOkc ) > > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - > ----------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you > are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, > dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken > in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message > are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect > the views of the company. > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - > ------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:47:58 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: njc, Barack Obama My dearest Patti, I love your passion about wanting to make a change! It is so heartfelt and genuine. Please keep keeping on sister-girl and make a difference in this world!!! Love, Sherelle Patti wrote: >WARNING: STRONG POLITICAL CONTENT > >Dear Ones: > >Maybe McCain wouldn't have to leave the GOP? I know in my state all lines >are blurred these days. We've got "Creeperman", who still dares to calls >himself a "devoted Democrat", now running for the Senate as an Independent, >taking 15 million (more or less) in Republican money. You just have to >laugh (or cry) because it's all so crazy. > >Was it Abraham Lincoln who brought in all kinds of people (not in his >party) to help run the country? ("I don't know much about history....") >All the *experts*, no matter what party affiliation. (Doris Kearns Goodwin >wrote about it, if memory serves....). It shouldn't be so hard to do! >Remember that recent Frontline (2003: The Year in Iraq, or some such >title), when it was reported that this administration only brings in people >who swear loyalty to Bush and his values? No matter their qualifications. >(Think: "Heck of a job, Brownie!", Scooter, and all the other frat boys.) > >You know what Barack said the other day? "I wouldn't fit in with this >administration [because I think] actually being informed is a good basis >for policy," Obama said to laughter. > >LOL! You tell 'em, brother! > >Heart and humour and humility. What we want, babies, he's got it! > >It's in this snippet: > >"Barack Obama: 'I Inhaled  That Was The Point' > > >"I inhaled  that was the point." > >That was what Illinois Senator Barack Obama, currently on a book tour that >may or may not segue into a run for the 2008 presidency, said to New Yorker >editor David Remnick this afternoon at the American Magazine Conference, >after Remnick asked Obama whether or not his admission of drug use in the >book would become problematic if he does, if fact, run for president. > >The softspoken Obama, who during an appearance on Meet The Press yesterday >admitted he would consider a run for the White House, openly criticized the >Bush administration in front of 500 or so magazine executives during a >wide-ranging, 45-minute discussion, occasionally with Remnick's prodding. >"This is the most ideologically driven administration in my memory, so >obstinate in resisting facts, dissenting opinions ... [They entered the >White House] with a set of preconcieved notions." Obama said. "I think this >administration has done great damage to this country." > >"I wouldn't fit in with this administration [because I think] actually >being informed is a good basis for policy," Obama said to laughter. "OK, >that's a low-blow."" > > >(That was from >http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/magazines/barack_obama_i_inhaled_that_was_the_point_46068.asp > ) > >And don't forget my friend the General! Generally speaking, I think Wesley >Clark would be good, too, although I've heard he would only accept being >#1. I guess Generals are like that, no? . They like to be the >boss of everybody? > >Sorry for the politics, amigos, but with only 13 days to go until the >election, I am hot hot blazes these days. For every political post I >write, there are 50 more that I don't. > >Love and peace, > >Patti P. > >P.S. I just got back from dropping off my two old ladies' absentee ballot >applications at a nearby town hall, where I broke down in tears. There was >a bulletin board called "Wall of Honor" and there were twelve pictures of >young, fresh-scrubbed faces in military uniforms. Twelve kids from this >little New England town serving their country. It's a small town, I don't >know how many, but it's small. Twelve sons. I could see Casey Sheehan >and, there but for the grace of God, Christopher and Michael and Nate and >James and Matthew. Will these kids come home in one piece? When? (NPIMH: > David Crosby screaming: "Why? How many more?"). Good God. And people >say "people like me" don't support the troops. Why the *F#$K* do they >think we want to end the war? > >AAAAAAARGH!!! (Sorry, but I'm feeling contempt so I'm gonna tell it!) > >> >>Hi Gene, >> >>I like your idea. I am a believer in "stranger things happening" so I'll >>keep my eyes open. I just received an email from Barack Obama via John >>Kerry's mailing list so I think something is already starting to happen. >> >>Sherelle >> >> >>Gene wrote: >>> >>> strong ticket for 08-----mc cain/obama. it means mc cain leaving the >>>gop but stranger things have happen. >>>obama is inspriational and mc cain has a good heart. >>>later, gene > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from >Microsoft Office Live >http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ > _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:11:14 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: njc, Feeling....Marcy Jerry, I've always thought this was a sad song too. I mean, the guy leaves, says "wait for meeeeeeee..." then never comes back. She spends her time wandering the town alone and waiting for him to write her, as the seasons pass she continues to wait to no avail. That's what I get from this song. I still love it though, so many of Joni's sad songs are just my faves cuz they have so much depth and feeling and tell a vivid story for me. Good thread thanks, Donna >>> Jerry Notaro 10/25/2006 11:06 AM >>> A new librarian started work here. Here name is Marcy. One day I started singing it and she said she had never heard it. She went to Itunes and downloaded it. After several listens I asked what she thought of it, and she thought it such a sad song. Funny. I always found it sort of Autumnal, like the seasons, so not sad at all. Just a passing, like leaves turning brown, falling from the trees, and blown away by a cool wind. Part of life, not really sad. I guess that I've long been Jonified. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:53:59 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: njc, Feeling....Marcy Must be chick thing :) > Jerry, I've always thought this was a sad song too. I mean, the guy leaves, > says "wait for meeeeeeee..." then never comes back. She spends her time > wandering the town alone and waiting for him to write her, as the seasons pass > she continues to wait to no avail. That's what I get from this song. I still > love it though, so many of Joni's sad songs are just my faves cuz they have so > much depth and feeling and tell a vivid story for me. Good thread thanks, > > Donna > >>>> >>> Jerry Notaro 10/25/2006 11:06 AM >>> > A new librarian started work here. Here name is Marcy. One day I started > singing it and she said she had never heard it. She went to Itunes and > downloaded it. After several listens I asked what she thought of it, and she > thought it such a sad song. Funny. I always found it sort of Autumnal, like > the seasons, so not sad at all. Just a passing, like leaves turning brown, > falling from the trees, and blown away by a cool wind. Part of life, not > really sad. I guess that I've long been Jonified. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:02:20 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: London listers - shameless Stryngs gig plug (NJC) Hi Martin, From what it sounds like, everyone seemed to really enjoy your concert despite the sound problems. I don't have a lot of live performances under my belt as a solo artist but I know what my heart feels as an artist. Whatever it takes to make everyone feel comfortable on stage sound wise or amp wiise...do it. I'm usually a very caring and generous person but when I'm on stage I only ask one thing...don't screw with my sound. For me, great sound equals a great concert. When I'm worried about the sound it affects my performance. Even though I haven't been able to take it to the level I've wanted to for one reason or another, I put a lot of stock in sound checks and good communication with the sound person. It's worth any extra money you have to spend to have confidence in your sound person in my opinion. It's a learning experience too Martin. As the group performs more and more, you will learn what works best for you and what makes you feel most comfortable on stage. I know stagefright will always exist but feeliing confident in the sound you are putting out in front of an audience will really help you give a better performance. I say get the guitar amp and as many monitors as Strings needs to be able to hear herself properly. I'm excited about where you are all going and I'll be watching! Onward and upward!!! Sherelle Martin wrote: Hi Benedicte Thanks for coming along to the gig! Make sure you say hello next time too. It would have been nice to meet a new jonilister. It was a pity you had t go, as we all hung around for a long while chatting away in the back corner. I have very mixed feelings about that gig. It seemed to go down quite well, despite the fact that we chose some very quiet songs to play amongst the more rocky ones. Of course we had no idea what it sounded like out front, but unfortunately the sound on stage was the worst I've ever known. It was an indestinct mush. Our violinist couldn't hear herself (which is a bit tough on intonation and tuning!). I couldn't really hear the lower strings on my guitar at all. Although everything was loud, it was so indestinct, it was like playing with cotton wool filling my ears; I was literally going by touch and memory most of the time. The same goes for Strings - she couldn't hear anything clearly enough to pitch to. All in all, a total nightmare on stage, and we just hope that it didn't sound too amateurish out front. How do the other performing listers deal with foldback on stage? Things are usually not too bad when playing at low levels, but once you get the drums in, it all seems to become much more of a problem. I'm always worried about pissing off the soundman while he's trying to get a FOH balance, but I'm wondering whether I should start being very pushy about foldback. Also, does it solve anything as an acoustic guitarist to buy an acoustic guitar amp.? Martin. _________________________________________________________________ Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search! http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:08:49 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: njc, Barack Obama >"people like me" don't support the troops.> > >And we hate America too...don't forget that one. LOL, Bob! I almost forgot. Thanks. Hey, and don't forget freedom. We hate freedom too. We love our lovin' but not like we hate our freeeeeEEEEEEeeeeDOM!!!!!!!! And democracy. We hate democracy. Democrats hate democracy. Got that all straight, amigo? > Bob again: >I also thought about you Patti when I saw a bumper sticker on the back of >a Jeep that said "Give War A Chance"...ouch, that was painful. F#$K your stranger's bumper sticker, Muller! I know you are just making that up. No way, Jose. Trying to laugh it all away, Patti P., en pleine forme aujourd'hui P.S. I just heard we are winning the war! Yeah! Check out the video clips here, esp. the 3rd one on why Dems shouldn't be dancing in the end zone and buying drapes: http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/25/stay.course/index.html OMG, I feel like I just watched a bunch of SNL skits. Talk about a madman's soul. He can't be real. Is he? Do you think this can be real???? I feel the Madwoman of Mansfield coming back on.....like the Hulk....can't keep it in...... _________________________________________________________________ Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search! http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:09:35 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: John Michael Talbot, njc Hi Laura, Thanks for the pictures! They were beautiful! It's been so many years since I've seen a picture of John Michael Talbot, I'm not sure I recognize him. Is he the person with the dark hair and the partially gray beard? That looks like him. I have loved his voice and his music for years. I just haven't heard it lately. Love, Sherelle Laura wrote: Here are pictures from earlier this month of the monastery and community John founded that I'm a domestic sister in. The lady holding the baby is John's wife Viola. _http://web.mac.com/johannapauline/iWeb/Site/gathering%20bsc.html_ (http://web.mac.com/johannapauline/iWeb/Site/gathering%20bsc.html) Enjoy! Love, Laura _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:35:50 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: njc, Feeling....Marcy Yes must be a chick thing and that's ok. Except for Bob Muller, he thought it was sad too. db >>> Jerry Notaro 10/25/2006 2:53 PM >>> Must be chick thing :) > Jerry, I've always thought this was a sad song too. I mean, the guy leaves, > says "wait for meeeeeeee..." then never comes back. She spends her time > wandering the town alone and waiting for him to write her, as the seasons pass > she continues to wait to no avail. That's what I get from this song. I still > love it though, so many of Joni's sad songs are just my faves cuz they have so > much depth and feeling and tell a vivid story for me. Good thread thanks, > > Donna > >>>> >>> Jerry Notaro 10/25/2006 11:06 AM >>> > A new librarian started work here. Here name is Marcy. One day I started > singing it and she said she had never heard it. She went to Itunes and > downloaded it. After several listens I asked what she thought of it, and she > thought it such a sad song. Funny. I always found it sort of Autumnal, like > the seasons, so not sad at all. Just a passing, like leaves turning brown, > falling from the trees, and blown away by a cool wind. Part of life, not > really sad. I guess that I've long been Jonified. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:06:59 -0400 From: kenevans@umich.edu Subject: Re: James Taylor NJC This reminds me to delurk for a bit, cause Steve and I are going to see James at the Fabulous Fox Theatre the saturday before Thanksgiving. The show was advertised as "One Man Band" so I guess that means it's just him? Wow... Neither of us have been to see him (which is astounding considering Steve has all of his albums and we go to a lot of shows) even though he seems to be at Chastain every year where you wouldn't be able to hear over the din anyways, which is why I'm glad he's playing the Fox. I'd rather see him by himself than with the band anyhow. Anyone else going? Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:55:16 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: James Taylor tickets, NJC You see Augusto, this is why I don't even bother to look at the entertainment section of the paper any more...it hurts to much to know what I'm missing! I live in the area but I can't afford to go to any concerts right now. Alas, I don't have any spare tickets but I am hoping that you will find a way. Is it sold out? Sherelle Augusto wrote: Hi, everyone! I will be in Washington DC on Nov. 6 and 7, I was wondering if anyone has spare tickets for JT's recitals for those dates. All the best, Augusto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:30:43 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: njc, Feeling....Marcy What can I say? Like Michael Paz, I'm so dang macho I have no problem wearing my feminine side on my sleeve. And on a whole 'nuther note, I just took the plunge and booked my trip to San Diego to see Dave & Robin and their Joni birthday Tribute show Nov. 4 - - whoo-hoo!! Bob NP: Nick Drake, "Three Hours" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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I > still >> love it though, so many of Joni's sad songs are just my faves cuz they have > so >> much depth and feeling and tell a vivid story for me. Good thread thanks, >> >> Donna >> >>>>>>>> Jerry Notaro 10/25/2006 11:06 AM >>> >> A new librarian started work here. Here name is Marcy. One day I started >> singing it and she said she had never heard it. She went to Itunes and >> downloaded it. After several listens I asked what she thought of it, and > she >> thought it such a sad song. Funny. I always found it sort of Autumnal, like >> the seasons, so not sad at all. Just a passing, like leaves turning brown, >> falling from the trees, and blown away by a cool wind. Part of life, not >> really sad. I guess that I've long been Jonified. >> >> Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:31:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: What do you think??> >The album is a definite - I'd be REAL surprised if she was up for a tour. Of course I hope I'm REAL wrong! I continue to think a big tour unlikely--bordering on impossible--but a few dates with some friends playing with her seems worth hoping for. Btw, I noticed no one is on bass. I wonder if the former Mr. Mitchell will be adding some to the mix. Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:42:54 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? Oh by all means - let's hope for the moon! And it's certainly withing the realms of possibility that she'd do an unplugged-intimate show with Blade like the one she played at the Gene Autry Museum or the Fez in NYC - that would be sweet. Even a couple of one-offs on some TV shows would be awesome. And it might be that since she's not going to be marketing this one the same (selling it through the internet or through some indie or something) that she's more motivated to perform. Time will tell and obviously we'll all wish for as much Joni as we can get. Bob NP: World Party, "Hollywood" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Recently, a baby boomer I know in Los Angeles named Morley Bartnoff... told me he watched the show every week. "That show had an amazing effect on me because not only did I realize this was some kind of left-of-center character that they actually gave his own television show to, but it was the first time that, I think, anybody got to see Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan and Kris Kristofferson and Derek and the Dominoes with Eric Clapton on TV." Happy Wednesday, Jack Harney _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:03:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni & god - --- Paul In MD wrote: I think she uses bits and pieces > of various religions to form her own religion of > sorts -- heavy on native American spirituality > though. That's how it looks to me. She has sometimes said that's she's Christian/Jewish/Buddhist and/or y'know there may be more. I'm not quoting her and I'm just too damn lazy to look it up (plus I'm either using the site's search capabilities all wrong or it's just not working today) but I remember a quote something like that. She uses a lot of references to native spirituality when she's talking about issues like the environment. She also mentions ancient and modern(ish)philosophers. She seems to be a seeker of some kind of spiritual or philosophical truth without being tied to any one belief system. One of the origins of the word "religion" apparently means "to tie fast" or "to bind". Interesting that, if it's true, because I suppose the ties that bind could either be chains that imprison you or simply ties that link you - to the world, to other people, to the environment, or whatever. It seems that some would rather be told exactly what to do because it's easy and I suppose the fundamentalist old-time wrath- o'-god beliefs appeal to them (because it's easier than thinking about things, because when you dig down deep, you lost good sleep). I think Joni sees the fundamental interconnecteness of things. I wonder if she has read any Douglas Adams? "Don't interrupt the sorrow" has to be one of my favourites for lyrics. (I think you can guess from my Joni-name.) The imagery is very evocative. The lyrics manage to be dense and terse at the same time and contain a lot in phrases or sentences of a few words each. Almost like haiku but with a different number of syllables. (Yeesh, I'm so full of shit sometimes.) It's like every part of it has meaning, even if sometimes we can't figure out what the hell she's talking about (like the notches, liberation doll, the serpent and the Ethiopian wall). I wonder if she was angry when she wrote it. Righteously angry. It all sounds very focussed to me. Most of us lose count of how many drinks we've had, once we've reached "a few." Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:31:13 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? I was certainly surprised to hear there's a new album in the pipeline; I'm sad to say, however, that I'm not in the least bit excited about it. I'm not dreading it, as I did Travelogue [which despite my dread actually managed to be worse than I'd feared - without wishing to re-ignite that debate]. If she writes songs that suit what's left of her voice and doesn't drown them in syrup, we may have something good. I'm in the strange position of *never* having been really excited about a Joni album, for all that she's just about my favourite songwriter of all. This is because I didn't discover her until the mid 80s, by which time the last of her seminal works was already half a decade in the past (yes, I believe Mingus to be the last great Joni album). So while I've always been keen to hear the next one, because none have them since I tuned in have been that special, it's never been the sort of excitement I've felt at, say, the next Bowie album (although he had a terrible decade, there was always a hope that he'd come up with something wonderful; and he did deliver in patches for most of the 90s, and then came up with a stunner with Heathen). I sometimes regret that I didn't discover Joni sooner, so I could have followed her decadus mirabilis, the 1970s, in real time, and been thrilled and agog with anticipation to see how she could follow up an album as perfect as Blue, and so on. I haven't given up completely: if Dylan can rediscover some good form - although I think his recent stuff has been ludicrously overpraised - after what seemed like centuries of humdrum releases, then surely Joni can too! Azeem in London - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/496 - Release Date: 24/10/2006 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:55:53 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: John Michael Talbot, njc In a message dated 10/25/2006 3:09:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, sherellesmith@hotmail.com writes: It's been so many years since I've seen a picture of John Michael Talbot, I'm not sure I recognize him. Is he the person with the dark hair and the partially gray beard? Hi Sherelle, Yes that's him. He is the one with the beard in the cartoon balloon photo. Glad you liked the photos. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: 25 Oct 2006 23:09:26 +0100 From: Benedicte Nielsen Subject: NJC Joni, now Nick Cave, and God On Oct 24 2006, ron wrote: > i would totally agree with that. being in love with a partner is a blend > of all three - you desire the person, you enjoy their company, and you > care about them & you want the best for them. having an imbalance would, > i guess, lead to problems in a relationship? > > i really do think that people are intrinsically designed to be in love - > kind of like a natural high when all our circuits are working. some folks > would say that it is a longing for the presence of god which is innate in > the human soul - but i think it is a longing for all kinds of love. when > i was going to church regularly way, way back, i had a great relationship > with god & would happily spend hours in prayer, or praise & worship - but > i was intensely lonely for human companionship & just could not seem to > connect with any other christians i knew. the contrast between an > intimate, vital, open, relationship with god, & a cold, distant, awkward > relationship with the people around me was just too much to bear. there > were many, many wonderful people - just no one i connected with on all > the right levels. > > > >>>>I love Nick Cave's 'into my arms' for that link between >being in love and, well, feeling almost religious. I quote it below, but I >guess one has to listen to it. > > > the lyrics look god - im trying to download the song so i can listen to > it. i must admit i know virtually nothing at all about nick cave except > that he had quite a good song on the radio a while back - cant remember > anything about it other than that i quite liked it. > > >ron > - ---------------------- Thanks for the message, I like this discussion very much. I've not really been into Nick Cave until recently when I heard Into My Arms. I somehow felt I should have written that song. Except, it sounds at first listen as if he were agnostic (which I am), but he is not, The Boatman's Call is full of biblical references. I like the combination of that and the darkness of it. I found this review which talks about it: http://www.nick-cave.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=75&Itemid=29 I think its a very precious thing to have the sort of religion that you talk about. My Christian friend made me read Sxren Kirkegaard's Works of Love, it talks about love, obviously, and God etc. I got quite carried away, until he went off a tangent about Jesus where I just couldn't follow. But, well, if this was the agape / eros discussion forum I'd recommend it! Benedicte ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:20:51 +0100 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: London listers - shameless Stryngs gig plug (NJC) Hi Sherelle Thanks for your advice. I think you're right about the on-stage sound. I should adopt a tougher attitude. I hate playing the prima-donna, but I guess if that's what it takes to get a result, I'll give it a go. On Monday evening, for some reason the soundcheck came to a sudden halt after about five minutes, and I assumed that the engineer had said he needed to get on and check the other bands. I asked him a little later and he looked confused and said no, he wondered why we stopped too! In the end, I think we did all right as we did get a positive reaction from the crowd, but I'm determined that we don't find ourselves in that situation again. As you say - a great sound makes for a great concert. Martin. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherelle Smith" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:02 PM Subject: Re: London listers - shameless Stryngs gig plug (NJC) > Hi Martin, > > From what it sounds like, everyone seemed to really enjoy your concert > despite the sound problems. I don't have a lot of live performances under > my belt as a solo artist but I know what my heart feels as an artist. > Whatever it takes to make everyone feel comfortable on stage sound wise or > amp wiise...do it. I'm usually a very caring and generous person but when > I'm on stage I only ask one thing...don't screw with my sound. For me, > great sound equals a great concert. When I'm worried about the sound it > affects my performance. Even though I haven't been able to take it to the > level I've wanted to for one reason or another, I put a lot of stock in > sound checks and good communication with the sound person. It's worth any > extra money you have to spend to have confidence in your sound person in > my opinion. > > It's a learning experience too Martin. As the group performs more and > more, you will learn what works best for you and what makes you feel most > comfortable on stage. I know stagefright will always exist but feeliing > confident in the sound you are putting out in front of an audience will > really help you give a better performance. I say get the guitar amp and as > many monitors as Strings needs to be able to hear herself properly. I'm > excited about where you are all going and I'll be watching! Onward and > upward!!! > > Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: 25 Oct 2006 23:56:50 +0100 From: Benedicte Nielsen Subject: Re: Subject: London listers - shameless Stryngs gig plug (NJC) On Oct 25 2006, Martin Giles wrote: >Yes - I'm on the list too, but I very rarely post. I get the Digest, but >only get to read one in ten; I was lucky to see your post! > >So, do you live in London? Who else have you met from the list? > >Martin. > > > - ------ No I'm in Cambridge, that is how I got talking to Chris. I almost met Garret a concert in London, but apart from that you people are the only ones I've seen in the flesh, I've only been on the list for about a month. Am finishing up a PhD and will probably move back to Denmark, well, soon... So you better put on some more gigs now! Are you in Cam or London? Bene ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:33:06 +0100 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: Subject: London listers - shameless Stryngs gig plug (NJC) Yes - I'm on the list too, but I very rarely post. I get the Digest, but only get to read one in ten; I was lucky to see your post! So, do you live in London? Who else have you met from the list? Martin. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benedicte Nielsen" To: "Martin Giles" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: Re: Subject: London listers - shameless Stryngs gig plug (NJC) > Hi! > I didn't know there were more stryngers on the list...! yeah I wish I > could have stayed - next time you gig we perhaps we can get everyone from > the lsit together, that would be fun (dont know if anyone else was there?) > > I didn't think it sounded amateurish at all, I thought it sounded like it > could have been an amazing concert, given the right conditions. It was > quite obvious that the sound was a problem for everyone. An added problem > is that when the sound isn't working, people in the background start > talking - which only makes matters worse. > > It's a pity because I like the venue, it has good atmosphere. > In any case, I'm glad I went, I enjoyed it a lot, despite the sound! > > Benedicte ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:08:30 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: London listers - shameless Stryngs gig plug (NJC) Hi Martin, I had a feeling that the sound check didn't go well. I know how you feel about not wanting to step on toes but this is you and your band's reputation we're talking about. My goal is to strike a balance by pleading my case. My suggestion to you if you don't feel the soundcheck is going your way is to just pull that sound guy aside and talk from your heart. Every performance you have something at stake and you need the band to be shown in it's best light (and sound). I have a lot of faith and confidence in sound people in that they desire the same thing for you as well. I believe they take pride in their work as well. Also remember that you are always going to be your own worst critic and there's always going to be something that you wish you could have done better. But if you brought some joy to the faces of the audience, that is a good thing! That's what it's all about! Sherelle Martin wrote: > >Hi Sherelle > >Thanks for your advice. > >I think you're right about the on-stage sound. I should adopt a tougher >attitude. I hate playing the prima-donna, but I guess if that's what it >takes to get a result, I'll give it a go. On Monday evening, for some >reason the soundcheck came to a sudden halt after about five minutes, and I >assumed that the engineer had said he needed to get on and check the other >bands. I asked him a little later and he looked confused and said no, he >wondered why we stopped too! > >In the end, I think we did all right as we did get a positive reaction from >the crowd, but I'm determined that we don't find ourselves in that >situation again. As you say - a great sound makes for a great concert. > >Martin. _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:03:19 -0300 From: "Augusto Kestelboim" Subject: RE: James Taylor tickets, NJC It is sold out, and the few offers I have seen ask for prices that are absolutely out of my range, given that I live in Argentina, with a weak currency. Anyway, let us wait and see... - -----Mensaje original----- De: Sherelle Smith [mailto:sherellesmith@hotmail.com] Enviado el: Miircoles, 25 de Octubre de 2006 02:55 p.m. Para: akestelboim@ciudad.com.ar CC: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: James Taylor tickets, NJC You see Augusto, this is why I don't even bother to look at the entertainment section of the paper any more...it hurts to much to know what I'm missing! I live in the area but I can't afford to go to any concerts right now. Alas, I don't have any spare tickets but I am hoping that you will find a way. Is it sold out? Sherelle Augusto wrote: Hi, everyone! I will be in Washington DC on Nov. 6 and 7, I was wondering if anyone has spare tickets for JT's recitals for those dates. 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