From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #395 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, October 24 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 395 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: njc, Barack Obama ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: njc, Barack Obama ["Kate Bennett" ] joni & god [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:39:35 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: njc, Barack Obama Hi Laura, I have to start treading lightly again because not everyone thinks that is such a good choice. If Hillary indeed has a problem with power, I have concerns. These are things I have to step back and look at. Right now, I don't know too terribly much about her as a senator. I think it's time to go back and look at each potential candidate more completely both democrat and republican and educate myself about them a little better. At this point, I'm going to take my "pundit" as Patti-Patti put it, and go back to political lurkdom! (Smile) Love, Sherelle > > >Sherelle wrote: > >I know that Hillary Clinton has aspirations of running as well. I believe >that the two of them may decide to run as a team. > > >Hi Sherelle, > > Wow! That would be quite a team! I hope you are right. > >Love, >Laura _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. 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I also think it is wonderful that both bree & kakki have good things to say about obama... he certainly has the potential to unite... our country & our world... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:59:17 -0700 From: Subject: joni & god Ron wrote: "she can sing a beautiful song about love. intellectually - she clearly gets it. i would assume in a way far deeper than most people - certainly me. but, i have to wonder if she has ever really felt gods love, ever really experienced the love, power, and presence of god in a real & vital way that just causes praise to break forth uncontrollably. its not something vague and airy fairy - its real, intense, overpowering. she has the logos, but not the rhema......." Ron - your post is very thought-provoking. I can think of incidences in Joni's life that seem to show that she has experienced the love, power and presence of God in a powerful way. Remember the story of her in the hospital with polio as a child? She was basically being written off and told she would never walk again. She has told the story of praying to God to walk again and then insisting to the nurses that they take her outside and let her try. She made a deal with them that if she could prove she could get up and walk, then they would release her from the hospital. After much back and forth they let her try and she showed that she had the facility to walk again. And look at her now, even though she suffers the effects of post-polio syndrome, she is so much more functioning in mobility in her later years than many who had polio back then. Right there was/is a miracle for her and it certainly must have affected her in a spiritual sense. There are other incidences along the way in her life that must have made her feel that God was with her. Reuniting with her daughter, enjoying her grandchildren, her sense of the huge creative gifts that she holds. My sense is that Joni is just human like anyone else and not perfect but always striving to be her best self. Sure she has an ego, but that tends to come with the creative territory. Maybe she has appropriated biblical themes and used them as metaphors for more earthly distinctions and messages. She is not and has never claimed to be a theologian or a biblical scholar. I do not think she has necessarily corrupted the basic themes. In fact, it may be that she is trying to provoke questions and discussions just as you've posed. As for the Old Testament, could it possibly be that those who wrote the books and related the stories portraying God as angry and vengeful might have been looking through their own glass darkly? They had not yet experienced the hope of their messiah and his message so interpretation was a bit off and lacking in clarity until the new covenant was established. Just a thought. I find these kind of discussions fascinating. I have the sense that God holds Joni pretty close even though she may be at times be, like the rest of us, a "fallen angel." ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #395 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------