From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #388 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, October 19 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 388 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Techie question njc [Garret ] re: Duncan Sheik, "Court and Spark" ["c Karma" ] RE: How small is a one kiloton A-bomb? njc [Catherine McKay ] RE: How small is a one kiloton A-bomb? njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] Re: How small is a one kiloton A-bomb? njc [] Hawaii quakers (njc) [] BBC Crown Jewels: In Concert: Joni Mitchell ["Lindsay Moon" ] njc, Justice in our own hands, and Wally Lamb ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Duncan Sheik, "Court and Spark" [Bob Muller ] Re: njc, Justice in our own hands, and Wally Lamb ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Real or fake? [J Kendel Johnson ] RE: Real or fake? [J Kendel Johnson ] Re: Two new (old) Joni songs ["Les Irvin" ] Tiny Joni mention... ["Azeem" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:16:31 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Techie question njc Can anyone tell me how to convert a document into pdf format? Specifically what i need to do is convert a powerpoint slide (which is currently saved as A4 size) into an A3 sized pdf. I have not figured out how to convert it at all and it is driving me crazy! Any techies out there that can help me with this would earn my undying appreciation. I'm seriously beginning to doubt that this is possible. Ever wanted to throw a computer out the window? ;-) GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:45:07 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: re: Duncan Sheik, "Court and Spark" "Rhino offers a comprehensive overview of the early years of his career >with Brighter/Later: A Duncan Sheik Anthology - a two-CD set that >showcases the emotional highs and lows of Sheik's songs. Not to be confused with Nick Drake's "Bryter Layter?" (One of his best, IMHO.) I wonder if the version of "Court and Spark" on this new collection is the one he did at NYC Summer Stage's Joni's Jazz show in 1998? I wish Joe Jackson would release his "Down To You." CC _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:33:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: How small is a one kiloton A-bomb? njc - --- Bree Mcdonough wrote: I hear..men of Arabic > heritage taking on > Hispanic names. I don't know if that is true or > just a rumor.. My Mexican/Canadian brother-in-law, with a gen-yu-wine Hispanic name, will not travel to the US now, since he fears being mistaken for an Arab and arrested and put in jail. In particular, my sister and he do not want to sail across to New York in the sailboat, since that looks even fishier (so to speak). My nephew, his son, has often been mistaken for Iranian, by Iranians. Go figure. Maybe they should take on an Arab name? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:58:16 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: RE: Real or fake? I think it's a homage, not the real thing. 1. The previous owner put it into a house sale and didn't explain or document it for the new seller. If it was genuine, they would have related a story, at least. 2. Joni wouldn't have done all of that pen and ink stuff twice without changing it drastically. I don't think she *could* have done it twice, for love or money. She just wasn't into copying, ever. Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:06:15 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: RE: How small is a one kiloton A-bomb? njc Catherine, We're a civilized nation. Even if he was arrested, he'd have a right to due process and he'd be treated with basic human dignity. We signed the Geneva Convention after all and... Uhh... wait a minute... Okay, I see his point. I guess "sorry" wouldn't cover it, eh? Jim L. np: "A Closer Walk With Thee" played by the Preservation Hall Jazz Band on LP. > From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] > My Mexican/Canadian brother-in-law, with a gen-yu-wine > Hispanic name, will not travel to the US now, since he > fears being mistaken for an Arab and arrested and put > in jail. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:20:36 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Real or fake? Yes, the signature is on the album cover.......... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:30:52 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Two new (old) Joni songs In a message dated 10/18/2006 5:20:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jrgoodspeed@gmail.com writes: cool les. seeds of "help me" in there. and i like the reference to a "dark cafe". so where did these come from? are there recordings somewhere? jenny yes, what Jenny asks....do tell Les...inquisitive minds want to know?!? rosie, The Cat's Pajamas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:34:25 +1300 From: hell@ihug.co.nz Subject: Re: Techie question njc Garret wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to convert a document into > pdf format? If you go to www.tucows.com you can search for freeware and/or shareware to do just about anything. I did a quick search for "convert powerpoint to pdf" on Google, and this tucows software came up: http://www.tucows.com/preview/343085 It might be what you're looking for, but if not, there's bound to be something else. Hell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:01:26 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Real or fake? Hmmm....that makes it tough! I'm reading everyone else's thoughts on her handwriting as well as her painting technique. I'm definitely split down the middle on this! I wonder if there is someone who can truly authenticate it? Thanks Rose for the info! Sherelle >From: RoseMJoy@aol.com >To: sherellesmith@hotmail.com, les.jonilist@gmail.com >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Real or fake? >Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:20:36 EDT > >Yes, the signature is on the album cover.......... _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:09:32 -0700 From: Subject: Re: How small is a one kiloton A-bomb? njc Oh Lama, Please don't go scaring the Canadians here ;-) Where I live, as most know, there are literally millions of Mexicans and Mexican-Americans who are certainly not being indiscriminately rounded up because they look Arabic. I think there is a resemblance, perhaps, because of the Moorish influence in Spain. Also, the so-called "black Irish" like myself also came originally from Spain. I'll never forget one night out at a Mexican restaurant with my former 100% Irish boyfriend and looking at vintage photos on the wall of Pancho Villa and his army. Sure enough there was some guy in one photo who was the spitting image of my "black Irish" Irish boyfriend! Ha! I have also read of the reports of Al Queda sympathisers with bad intentions crossing the border from Mexico and trying to pass as Mexican. For awhile, the reports were taken as accurate but there are other reports that these are rumors. I would tend to believe they are truer than not. Jose Padilla (who worked with Al Queda) in on trial and has already admitted that he was part of a plan to deploy a dirty nuke somewhere in the U.S. I think most agree the southern border needs to be tightened up for security reasons, if nothing else. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:18:28 -0700 From: Subject: Hawaii quakers (njc) Hi Sherelle, I'm glad you brother is O.K. It's so funny what you wrote - I was reading a blog on Sunday with people writing in from either Hawaii or who had family and one of the biggest topics was how much they were griping about now being able to watch the football games! LOL Because the electricity was out for a long time, people on the mainland were getting constant phone text messages from family in Hawaii asking for updates on the games ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:32:04 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: BBC Crown Jewels: In Concert: Joni Mitchell Thanks so much for that, Laura! I couldn't run to my Tivo like system fast enough! Tonight is The Police and my husband is please to see AC/DC is coming up. Thanks for that! Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:03:16 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: Dick Cavett Reruns (NJC) To those who were interested, I found a listing of reruns of Dick Cavett interviews on TCM (Turner Classic Movies) channel. October 23 is the big day apparently. Starting at 10:15 a.m. and running continuously are: Woody Allen (1971), Robert Mitchum (1971), Alfred Hitchcock (1972), Bette Davis (1971), Groucho Marx (1969), Katharine Hepburn, Pt. 1 (1973), Katharine Hepburn, (Pt. 2 airs October 26), Mel Brooks (2006). Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:26:42 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Justice in our own hands, and Wally Lamb Alice wrote: << When we treat mistakes and mental illness with punishment insead of compassion and help we devalue and diminish every human being, we stunt the growth and healing and happiness of the entire human race. >> And then Smurf: I identified with much of your story, Alice, and I am also grateful that I was spared the fate of many people who made the same misguided choices in life that I made. That appreciation has also made me a lot less judgemental over the past few years, and more willing to help others heal. - ----------- Here's to healing! Okay, I just *have* to talk about Wally Lamb. Has anyone read his books? Wally rocks, and he just happens to live in Mansfield...on the road to Baljenie, in my hometown! (TIC!) I know one of our other psychotherapists, Bo Peep Richman (Where are you, Bo? I miss you!) has read his first two novels ("She's Come Undone" and "I Know This Much is True"), and so has Donna B. When she picked me up in Houston and took me to a breakfast Barangrill, I asked her if she liked to read and she told me she was in the middle of his second book....another instant connection! As if Joni weren't enough. But it is his third book that relates to what our Alice is saying. Wally left his job at UConn (teaching creative writing) to become a volunteer facilitator of a writing workshop at York Correctional Institution, a prison for women. It's called....oh, wait. Let my weak and a lazy mind just copy something for you from amazon.com: "Amazon.com Any book that can give voice to the voiceless should be celebrated. No one feels this more strongly than Wally Lamb, editor of Couldn't Keep It to Myself, a collection of stories by 11 women imprisoned in the York Correctional Institution in Connecticut. Teacher and novelist Lamb was invited to head a writing workshop at York Correctional Institution in 1999. His somewhat reluctant acceptance soon turned into steadfast advocacy once the women in his charge began to tell their stories. Lamb maintains that there are things we need to know about prison and prisoners: "There are misconceptions to be abandoned, biases to be dropped." However, as heartfelt as his appeal is, nothing speaks more convincingly in this book than the stories themselves. Those collected here are disturbing and horrific. They reveal, often in graphic detail, the worst kind of abuse: incest, drug addiction, spousal violence, parental neglect, or incompetence. They're also testimony to what social workers and health care professionals have confirmed for years--that those who populate our prisons are often victims first themselves. Thus, the telling of these stories serves as a form of therapy. They are also sad accounts of the brutalities many suffer, yet few discuss: "One day I figured out a dying little girl lived inside of me, so I threw her a lifeline in the form of paper and pen." Considering the degradation the contributors have experienced both in and outside prison, the courage, candor, and honesty with which they speak truly make these stories, as difficult as they are to read, "victories against voicelessness--miracles in print." Alice, if you haven't read this yet, you must. You will love it. It is beautiful, heartbreaking, and most of all, powerful. He empowered these women. The world needs more Wally Lambs. He helped these women set their souls free. One of them even won an award! From Wikipedia: "The PEN/Newman's Own First Amendment Award is a $25,000 annual award designed to honor an individual who has prevailed over considerable odds in defending freedom of expression in the United States as it applies to the written word: in books, newspapers, magazines and pamphlets, film scripts and plays, or wherever it may be threatened. It is sponsored by the PEN American Center, under International PEN, and Paul Newman's foundation, Newman's Own. Any deserving person who has campaigned individually or in collaboration with others qualifiesincluding but not limited to school teachers, parents, librarians, lawyers, writers, journalists. Especially favored candidates are those whose achievements have not otherwise garnered recognition through institutional affiliation or public visibility. Candidates may have been engaged in the following ways: worked to restore a banned book to the library shelves or their school; called for the reinstatement of a newspaper or magazine editor who was fired because of an article he or she wrote; published a controversial book in the face of unjustified threat of libel action; mobilized their local community to conduct a First Amendment campaign despite harassment by a hostile section of that community; or fought a costly and time consuming lawsuit in defense of the First Amendment. Past Recipients and Judges 2004 Barbara Parsons Lane, one of eight incarcerated writers who were sued by the State of Connecticut after contributing to Couldn't Keep It To Myself: Testimonies from our Imprisoned Sisters, a moving anthology of stories and essays by women who participated in a creative writing workshop led by Wally Lamb at York Correctional Institute. Judges: Stanley Crouch, Lucy Dalglish, Eve Ensler, David Horowitz, Grace Paley" We love our loving, but not like we love our freedom! There was a great article in the Hartford Courant's Northeast Magazine (9/3/06) that I meant to share with you all, but never got around to it. "Author Wally Lamb's Battle to Let Women in Prison Unlock Their Minds and Find Writers' Voices: Revisions and Corrections", but I can't find it on the Courant website right now. MERDE! It's gone. The hard copy is right here on my computer desk, but there's no way I can type it out tonight. (Note to self: share while the iron is hot and stop procrastinating!) Maybe one of our librarians can find it? It is so good. Deep cleansing breath. I could write all night about Wally Lamb, and Joni, and the elections on NOVEMBER 7th, but I have to settle down and rest up for tomorrow. I have to attend a two-hour workshop in the morning on non-immigrant visas, so we can get more scholars into our country. Christ , ya know it ain't easy. Love and peace, and pleasant Joni dreams, Patti P., seriously contemplating asking for a leave of absence from work for the next three weeks NPOMTV: Bill Moyers' show about the internet....democracy lives! _________________________________________________________________ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:42:51 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Sarah McLachlan on Leno Tonight P.S. Sarah McLachlan is supposed to be on Leno tonight xo, pp _________________________________________________________________ Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search! http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:51:19 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: Dick Cavett Reruns (NJC) Thanks for posting this...Lindsay. I saw a wondeful interview last night with Betty Huttion from 2000....on Turner Classic Movies. I didn't know much about her...I found her to be such a lovely human being.. childlike...and so humble...down to earth. Bree >To those who were interested, I found a listing of reruns of Dick Cavett >interviews on TCM (Turner Classic Movies) channel. > >October 23 is the big day apparently. Starting at 10:15 a.m. and running >continuously are: > >Woody Allen (1971), Robert Mitchum (1971), Alfred Hitchcock (1972), Bette >Davis (1971), Groucho Marx (1969), Katharine Hepburn, Pt. 1 (1973), >Katharine Hepburn, (Pt. 2 airs October 26), Mel Brooks (2006). > >Lindsay _________________________________________________________________ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:58:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: njc, Justice in our own hands, and Wally Lamb - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > There was a great article in the Hartford Courant's > Northeast Magazine > (9/3/06) that I meant to share with you all, but > never got around to it. > "Author Wally Lamb's Battle to Let Women in Prison > Unlock Their Minds and > Find Writers' Voices: Revisions and Corrections", > but I can't find it on > the Courant website right now. Here you go, Patti! (Et tout le monde.) <> I'm too tired to read another thing, so I'll check it out tomorrow. Mwah, - --Smurf . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:07:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Duncan Shiek and Court & Spark Got it Laura - - thanks. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:14:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Duncan Sheik, "Court and Spark" Wonder no longer - it is not - it's a studio version, nicer than the NYC take. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:46:23 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: njc, Justice in our own hands, and Wally Lamb When the curtain closes And the rainbow runs away I will bring you incense Owls by night By candlelight By jewel-light If only you will stay Smurf, bringing us incense owls by night, wrote: >Here you go, Patti! (Et tout le monde.) > >< >> > >I'm too tired to read another thing, so I'll check it >out tomorrow. > >Mwah, > >--Smurf > Yes, yes, yes! Mille mercis. Please do (read it). It's so good. Love encore une fois, Patti P., happy that the Mets won tonight....my Dad loved the Mets. This win is for you, Papa! > _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:03:52 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Real or fake? I compared the printed lettering and the art on the album cover (remember those?) to the picture on ebay, and I am at least 95% certain that it's a fake. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Sherelle Smith Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:01 PM To: RoseMJoy@aol.com; les.jonilist@gmail.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Real or fake? Hmmm....that makes it tough! I'm reading everyone else's thoughts on her handwriting as well as her painting technique. I'm definitely split down the middle on this! I wonder if there is someone who can truly authenticate it? Thanks Rose for the info! Sherelle >From: RoseMJoy@aol.com >To: sherellesmith@hotmail.com, les.jonilist@gmail.com >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Real or fake? >Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:20:36 EDT > >Yes, the signature is on the album cover.......... _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:11:18 -0700 (PDT) From: J Kendel Johnson Subject: Re: Real or fake? Thought I would weigh in with my thoughts... 1) The opening bid price doesn't necessarily reflect the reserve price -- a price the seller sets, which must be met before they are required to release the item to the highest bidder. So the $4.95 starting price doesn't really tell us a whole lot (even though under $5 probably does suggest that the owner doesn't perceive it to have *too* much value.) 2) We know nothing of the owner's depth of knowledge about Joni Mitchell. For all we know it could be a name they recognize, and perhaps they have some vague associations, but not much beyond that. There are millions of people who don't know who Joni Mitchell is... exactly... (Hard to believe, I know.) 3) It's perfectly possible to come to possess something of value without much knowledge about it or even much real awareness about how it came into your possession -- especially something that is essentially a piece of paper. People move, things get shuffled, things get stashed, someone comes along for whom it has no real meaning or value, but they kinda like it so they hang on to it in a drawer somewhere. The stories of unknown or unrecognized valuables showing up in unexpected places are frequently in the news. Heck, PBS's Antique Roadshow has made a whole broadcast series out of them. 4) I don't know enough about Joni's working style as a visual artist. It's hard for me to land on an opinion without a better quality, larger and straight-on photo. I have seen copies of Joni's handwritten lyrics for her songs in which she seemed to have written the same song out, starting over from the beginning each time, and changing various lines as she goes along with each draft, but, like someone else has said here, it's hard for me to imagine her doing that with her art -- plus I don't know much about art processes and studies. Maybe it's possible she was still fresh enough from her art school days that she was still in a more formal mode of doing studies -- or is it even possible it's a much earlier piece that she brought back out to recreate in a more polished form when it came time to do the cover art for her first album? 5) Didn't I hear somewhere on this list in the past that Joni created the cover art, turned it in, and then the record company insisted it had to have a photo of her on the front? Maybe that explains why this "draft" doesn't have a place for the photo. 6) Even if it's a copy cat, if it could be proven to be from the late 60s/early 70s, wouldn't it have some intrinsic value as a cultural artifact related to our beloved Ms. Mitchell? 7) Les, is there any way to get a printout of the photos in front of Joni? Seems to me it might very well tell everyone -- real of fake? -- right away! J Sherelle Smith wrote: Hmmm....that makes it tough! I'm reading everyone else's thoughts on her handwriting as well as her painting technique. I'm definitely split down the middle on this! I wonder if there is someone who can truly authenticate it? Thanks Rose for the info! Sherelle >From: RoseMJoy@aol.com >To: sherellesmith@hotmail.com, les.jonilist@gmail.com >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Real or fake? >Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:20:36 EDT > >Yes, the signature is on the album cover.......... _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:12:54 -0700 (PDT) From: J Kendel Johnson Subject: RE: Real or fake? Good going. I wrote my whole long diatribe, and I haven't even stopped to do that! Richard Flynn wrote: I compared the printed lettering and the art on the album cover (remember those?) to the picture on ebay, and I am at least 95% certain that it's a fake. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Sherelle Smith Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:01 PM To: RoseMJoy@aol.com; les.jonilist@gmail.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Real or fake? Hmmm....that makes it tough! I'm reading everyone else's thoughts on her handwriting as well as her painting technique. I'm definitely split down the middle on this! I wonder if there is someone who can truly authenticate it? Thanks Rose for the info! Sherelle >From: RoseMJoy@aol.com >To: sherellesmith@hotmail.com, les.jonilist@gmail.com >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Real or fake? >Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 19:20:36 EDT > >Yes, the signature is on the album cover.......... _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:00:08 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Re: Two new (old) Joni songs If there are, I haven't heard them! On 10/18/06, RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > > jrgoodspeed@gmail.com writes: > > cool les. seeds of "help me" in there. and i like the reference to a > "dark > cafe". so where did these come from? are there recordings somewhere? > jenny > > yes, what Jenny asks....do tell Les...inquisitive minds want to know?!? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:21:34 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: Tiny Joni mention... From today's Guardian; Brian May has collaborated in the writing of a book that is intended as a popular introduction to the Universe - one that people might actually be able to understand. Some of you may know that May was in the final stages of his work on a Phd when he jacked it all in to play with some rock band, forget the name... << The book came about as a result of May's friendship with Moore, whom he first met when he gave a talk at Imperial College. It was the impenetrability of Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time that partly inspired the three to write Bang!; Moore essentially poured it all out in a week, after which May and Lintott "dived in and tore it apart". Their aim was to assemble an easy-to-read chronology of the formation of the universe and the result is a readable and beautifully illustrated book that plays to a popular audience - lots of space given to cool stuff such as worm holes and Martian ice holes. "I figured that if I understood it, there was a good chance that people would in general, and that if I didn't understand it, then there was work to be done," says May. He understands that lay readers need analogies and so, for example, spiral galaxies are likened to traffic jams on the M25 and there is the odd rockular touch - "we are stardust, we are golden," runs the epilogue, a quote from Joni Mitchell - to remind us whose hands we're in. >> If you're interested, the rest of the piece is here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1925475,00.html Azeem in London - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/480 - Release Date: 17/10/2006 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #388 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------