From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #355 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, September 27 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 355 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: [NortheastJonifest] Re: Muller time and taking a V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N -- njc [Michael Paz ] Re: (njc) Chicago Jazz Composers Collective concert [frednow@aol.com] sloppy writing NJC ["mike pritchard" ] Re: (njc) Chicago Jazz Composers Collective concert [frednow@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:39:16 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Re: Muller time and taking a V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N -- njc > Happy fecking Birthday my brother. Hope you had a great one. I am toasting > you right now with a home made sugar cookie. See ya soon > > > Paz > > > > Thanks for all the birthday wishes!!! It's been a very good one...:) Not to > be picky, but its actually on the 26th, today! > > Victor, in between classes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:52:23 -0700 From: Subject: Re: Chomsky and Chavez (njc) Hey Jerry, > Well, being a communist means belonging to a particular party or movement, > which he is not, or proving that he he has secretly supported communist > countries. As for equating communism with socialism, that's another right > wing ploy. Look, I am truly trying to understand all the nuances here. He is affiliated with IWW whose mission statement also says: "It is the historic mission of the working class to do away with capitalism. The army of production must be organized, not only for everyday struggle with capitalists, but also to carry on production when capitalism shall have been overthrown. By organizing industrially we are forming the structure of the new society within the shell of the old." Yes, some on the right equate socialism with communism although they are obviously different. They believe it is an incremental step toward communism. However, one of the main differences between the two is that socialism depends and thrives on capitalism, at least in every country I know, including the U.S., as opposed to communism which seeks to entirely overthrow and abolish capitalism. Bottom line, I kind of think Chomsky as yet another example of someone who has been living in the insulated ivory tower of academia, instead of the hard cold world all of his life. Yet you have to admit he makes his name, fame and money through the capitalist distribution system, doesn't he? It's like many of my millionaire employers who spend a number of paid for years in Ivy League schools and never had to work a minimum wage job in their lives. Through elite educational pedigree, smarts, opportunity and connections, they have made it. And bully to them and they definitely add value to our world. But they have little or no clue as to how a lot of the rest of the world works because they never had to work in it at the basic level. I kind of regard Chomsky in the same vein and that is why I would never be able to identify with him. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:25:30 -0400 From: frednow@aol.com Subject: Re: (njc) Chicago Jazz Composers Collective concert Thanks, Sherelle ... sweet of you. Fred -----Original Message----- From: sherellesmith@hotmail.com To: frednow@aol.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:16 AM Subject: Re: (njc) Chicago Jazz Composers Collective concert Oh goodness! First of all, my deepest sympathy goes out to your bass player. I'm so sorry he lost his father. Fred thank you so much for sharing aobut your show. I'm so glad that everything turned out well despite the obstacles!!! Whew! It's definitely done for the love of music because I'm sure it was quite unnerving having so many things happen at the last minute. I had a similar thing happen at the concert I gave last October. It was so nervewracking and on some songs, I got the 75% note accuracy too but there also was a good vibe and everyone enjoyed the show. I can definitely relate to what you went through. Congratulations for making good music this weekend. I love your your comment, "and so goes the marriage of art and commerce in a declining civilization..." May we not go gently into that good night. Sincerely, Sherelle Fred wrote: > > Sherelle, thanks so much for your supportive words. > > The gig went well considering that the bass player's father died last >week; had to find Someone Good three days before the gig, and did. But the >only time he could rehearse was one hour before the gig, which was just as >well because that's the only time the drummer could rehearse, too. > > Two days before the gig, the pedal steel player called to tell me that >his road trip to Austin (20 hour drive) was leaving at 8 AM the day of my >gig, not at 8 PM (after the gig). So, no pedal steel player ... too late to >find another who could play in disparate bags of music. > > Rehearsed a little with the two remaining guitarists, and then we all >gathered to rehearse for the first and only time all together in the one >hour before the gig, right up until 8 minutes before the gig. Patrons had >already come in, the sound person was breathing down my neck. We took a >deep breath and jumped in. > > The notes were about 75 percent accurate, many layers of nuance were >unattended (under rehearsing is over rated for the kind of music I write). >But the vibe was good, and response was enthusiastic. And so goes the >marriage of art and commerce in a declining civilization. > > Thanks again, > Fred > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sherellesmith@hotmail.com > To: frednow@aol.com > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 9:37 AM > Subject: (njc) Chicago Jazz Composers Collective concert > > You always have our support Fred! This sounds very interesting! I wish I >were close enough to check it out! Best of luck to you this weekend and >please let us know how it went!!! > > Sherelle > > Fred wrote: > > For anyone in Chicago this weekend ... > > Got some new music and some re-imagined old music played by a group with > multiple guitars. I'm really excited to hear how it's gonna turn out, and >I > hope you all can drop by and have a listen. > > As always, I'm grateful for your past and future support. > > Fred > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security >tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, >free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:48:47 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: sloppy writing NJC "Bill Criminalizing Minor Abortions OK'd" - now there's a writer who doesn't know how to write clearly. His name is Jim Abrams and he works for the Associated Press. Who is Bill? Why is he criminalizing these minor abortions? What is a minor abortion? Any of you copy writers or academics out there have any similar stuff. Happy Birthday to all (Victor, Bob, John). mike in bcn np Aziza Mustafa Zadeh - Seventh Truth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:39:30 -0400 From: frednow@aol.com Subject: Re: (njc) Chicago Jazz Composers Collective concert Hey Paz, Definitely email me directly when you know when you'll be here; if I have a public gig I'd love for you to hear it. Bring snowshoes this time. I love Dave Easley's playing on the Brian Blade albums, especially Perceptual, on which, as you know, Joni sings one song. In fact, it's one of my favorite albums. And Easley is no small part of it. Actually, the steel player who was supposed to make my gig, Brian Wilkie, is a friend of Easley's. We thought about calling him, but it was literally two days before the gig, and only one day before the guitar rehearsal. Plus, the gig hardly paid anything, much less airfare from New Orleans to Chicago. By the way, one of the guitarists on my gig, Dave Onderdonk, also knew Easley in Champaign, IL before the turn of the century. As it happens, everything worked out just fine, although things go better with steel. Regarding 75 percent accuracy, you raise an interesting point, one which I've thought a lot about over the decades and feel very passionate about. I had a teacher in high-school summer arts camp who told me "There are no wrong notes in jazz." Unfortunately, I've been finding them regularly ever since. It's all about note choice. It's true that in a certain context ... free improvisation, for instance ... an environment can exist in which there are seemingly no wrong notes. However, as we all know, there are plenty of opportunities for wrong notes in music that is completely notated ... Western European classical music, for instance. The kind of music I make is steeped in classical tradition (as well as that of jazz, rock, folk, etc.) and depends on that tradition's premium on note accuracy, both in the performance of its written material and its improvisation. In this regard (as well as in other ways) my music shares common ground with groups like Oregon, Brian Blade Fellowship, and the Pat Metheny Group ... aspiring to combine classical-level performance excellence with inspired improvisation. As one would imagine, this is not always easy to do, speaking for myself at least. All best, Fred -----Original Message----- From: michael@thepazgroup.com To: frednow@aol.com; sherellesmith@hotmail.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 7:24 PM Subject: Re: (njc) Chicago Jazz Composers Collective concert Hi Fred I am coming back to Chicago in early December for the next leg of the Arlo Guthrie City of New Orleans Tour. I will advise you when it is set in stone. Would love to come hear you play. Next time you need a pedal steel guy please call me and I will give you Dave Easley's number (see Jack Neilson Here I Go Again and Brain Blade Fellowship Albums) Regarding the notes being 75% accurate, hey man, Miles probably would have said "Hey Man that was brilliant!!!!!!!" It's jazz man! Rock ON!! LOL! Paz > Sherelle, thanks so much for your supportive words. > > The gig went well considering that the bass player's father died last week; > had to find Someone Good three days before the gig, and did. But the only time > he could rehearse was one hour before the gig, which was just as well because > that's the only time the drummer could rehearse, too. > > Two days before the gig, the pedal steel player called to tell me that his > road trip to Austin (20 hour drive) was leaving at 8 AM the day of my gig, not > at 8 PM (after the gig). So, no pedal steel player ... too late to find > another who could play in disparate bags of music. > > Rehearsed a little with the two remaining guitarists, and then we all gathered > to rehearse for the first and only time all together in the one hour before > the gig, right up until 8 minutes before the gig. Patrons had already come in, > the sound person was breathing down my neck. We took a deep breath and jumped > in. > > The notes were about 75 percent accurate, many layers of nuance were > unattended (under rehearsing is over rated for the kind of music I write). But > the vibe was good, and response was enthusiastic. And so goes the marriage of > art and commerce in a declining civilization. > > Thanks again, > Fred > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sherellesmith@hotmail.com > To: frednow@aol.com > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 9:37 AM > Subject: (njc) Chicago Jazz Composers Collective concert > > You always have our support Fred! This sounds very interesting! I wish I were > close enough to check it out! Best of luck to you this weekend and please let > us know how it went!!! > > Sherelle > > Fred wrote: > > For anyone in Chicago this weekend ... > > Got some new music and some re-imagined old music played by a group with > multiple guitars. I'm really excited to hear how it's gonna turn out, and I > hope you all can drop by and have a listen. > > As always, I'm grateful for your past and future support. > > Fred > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security > tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, > free AOL Mail and more. > ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. 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