From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #337 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, September 17 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 337 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni Mitchell Covers, Volume 7 [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: NPs and recent gigs njc [Garret ] Re: NPs and recent gigs njc [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: murderous intent NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: NPs and recent gigs njc [Smurf ] Re: "When the Levees Broke" a Spike Lee Joint, njc [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni Mitchell Covers, Volume 7 [Bob Muller ] Re: NPs and recent gigs njc [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: NPs and recent gigs njc [notaro@stpt.usf.edu] to fest or not to fest [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: to fest or not to fest [notaro@stpt.usf.edu] RE: murderous intent NJC.doc ["mike pritchard" ] Re: NPs and recent gigs njc [Smurf ] Re: "When the Levees Broke" a Spike Lee Joint, njc [Em ] Re: "When the Levees Broke" a Spike Lee Joint, njc [Smurf ] RE: "When the Levees Broke" a Spike Lee Joint, njc ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: murderous intent NJC [Catherine McKay ] gas, now the economy tanks. . njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Joni's Brainy Quotes ["Michael O'Malley" ] The new Bush, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] Re: new stryngs album njc [Chris Marshall ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 19:04:28 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Covers, Volume 7 Thanks for another great volume, Bob. There sure are some gems in there. Goldie Hawn was a surprise for me. She actually has a great voice. I wonder what Joni thought of Bing Crosby's cover of BSN. The Repairs really conjures the era for me but, what is that creepy whispering? Michael Feinstein has some major echo going on there but, I guess that's Broadway. Mark in Sydney (where Spring is blooming) NP Daylight Hours - Infusion ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 19:24:26 +1000 (ChST) From: "P. Henry" Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Kate Bennett At Once!!! Kate... Dear Kate, I meant every word and, as you know, the fates have gifted me with the experience to know whereof I speak. When I campare someone to Joni it has some validity due to my first-hand knowledge of her and, for me, it is a rare occorance and I don't make such a comparison lightly or often. Of course you are correct that there are many other fine talents who attend to this list but, as Joni is such a 'musician's musician' that certainly comes as no surprise. Further, I suppose there are many artists who are regarded with that same feeling that I had for Joni's music back when she was 'our little secret' so many years ago and that I have for yours as well, that feeling that 'why should I be so lucky'... that feeling I get every time I put on your cd. I long for the day when the world awakes to its beauty and I think Joni would agree... Warmest Regards, Pat NP - Here and Gone http://www.angelfire.com/pq2/phenryboland/ - -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Wow Pat. I mean wooooowww. LOL. To be in the same paragraph with Joni is > an incredible honor. > > All I can think to say is thank you & your check is in the mail ;~} > > There are so many others on this list with incredible talents too & I > don't > want to start naming them because I'll leave someone out. But there is a > lot of talent here. Right here in river city. LOL. > > Kate > >>MURI! > > You mean to tell me that after the URL for Kate's site has been in > practically every day's list for the last I don't know how many years, > every time she posted, you have NEVER heard even heard a sample clip until > now?!? Wow! > > Well, I can certainly appreciate your joy at hearing for the first time. > For me it was every bit as much "Woooowww-woooowwww-woooowwwww!!!" > experience and I immediately got her cd from > http://cdbaby.com/cd/katebennett > > Don't tell her I said so but, to tell the truth, personally, I feel about > her cd sort of like I once felt about a young singer songwriter gal back > when I was among the lucky few who got to see her prtform when her > wandering brought her around to our coffeehouse... whose name was Joni. > It's never very far from from my stero and I truly do consider it a > classic on par with Tapestry, Sweet Baby James and For The Roses among > others. I love it so much I've bugged the folks over at World Cafe' on > NPR (National Public Radio) more than once to play selections from it > because every time I'd listen to the show I couldn't help but think, "hey, > if you're going to play great indies, you're missing out on one of the > best!". To me she sounds like Joni would've if she'd never smoked. > > Cheers, > > Pat > > > NP - Wolf Song< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:56:21 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: NPs and recent gigs njc Hi Nuri, Yup, Devendra is a beautiful man. And his music is great. That's the same Antony. Here is a video from someone's mobile phone at teh festival. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnTbLXut_Ms I did not think they would work on the main stage, but it was great, the audience singing along, just loving it. The crowd really went wild for Antony. I will check out that Jim Noir EP you mention, thanks. Ok, Pet Shop Boys. Again, great. A lot of the festival went out live on Irish TV so i was expecting that a lot more of it would turn up on youtube. There a lot of clips from people's phones. But this one is from the TV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqtV6oGFvsY GARRET NP- Eddi Reader, Town Without Pity Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:34:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: NPs and recent gigs njc Hi Garret, "Devendra Banhart is so sexy." Sexy? Devendra? Devendra?? Sexy?! How many cocktails exactly did you have that night, Garret? "Antony & the jonsons were fantastci too. They did about four new songs which sounded very promising." He's the For Today I Am A Boy guy, right? Then i like them too. "Massive attack were very good. The sound was amazing." The first and last time i told someone what i think about them i was banned from planet Earth and i'm still hiding somewhere. "Jonathan thought it was one of the highlights, CIan thought it was shite." I LOVE Clan. "DJ Shadow can go and shite next time ,as we say in ireland." He sure can and believe me he would too. Mind, if we were drug dealers in a Hong Kong club we would probably be huge fans of that nonsense. "Some guy called Jim Noir was good. I will look him up and see if he is good on cd too." Try his Eanie Meany ep, very cool indeed. "Gary Numan was terrible." Gary Numan was born terrible. One of my worst 80's nightmares. Can i PLEASE shoot him, Mike P.? "The Pet Shop Boys were possibly the overall highlight for me. I was not even going to go to them. It was the campest, funniest, greatest thing ever." Oh you're lucky, Garret. Very lucky. This show is something i want to know more about. "Basement Jaxx were good. Not great." What you were really trying to say was that they were great, not good. This time i forgive you. "The toilets were dirty. There were urinals for girls." THIS is what Basement Jaxx are all about. "I had to give my scissor sisters ticket away as i'll be at a conference that day. I'm still sipped off about that." I'm sipped off about just reading that. Don't worry, Garret. It's going to be a long time before SS are gone and they just seem to get better. Nuri ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 03:34:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: NPs and recent gigs njc Hi Garret, Thanks so much for the links. I'm really enjoying what i see! And Guy too. (You should have seen him gleaming once the Pet Shop Boys clip began, he demands reruns and he keeps on singing "I got the brains You got the looks" to me, which is also true in many ways:) I can understand why the crowd reacted that way - Antony is very much cultish. Thanks again, Nuri Hi Nuri, Yup, Devendra is a beautiful man. And his music is great. That's the same Antony. Here is a video from someone's mobile phone at teh festival. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnTbLXut_Ms I did not think they would work on the main stage, but it was great, the audience singing along, just loving it. The crowd really went wild for Antony. I will check out that Jim Noir EP you mention, thanks. Ok, Pet Shop Boys. Again, great. A lot of the festival went out live on Irish TV so i was expecting that a lot more of it would turn up on youtube. There a lot of clips from people's phones. But this one is from the TV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqtV6oGFvsY GARRET NP- Eddi Reader, Town Without Pity Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:34:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: NPs and recent gigs njc Hi Garret, "Devendra Banhart is so sexy." Sexy? Devendra? Devendra?? Sexy?! How many cocktails exactly did you have that night, Garret? "Antony & the jonsons were fantastci too. They did about four new songs which sounded very promising." He's the For Today I Am A Boy guy, right? Then i like them too. "Massive attack were very good. The sound was amazing." The first and last time i told someone what i think about them i was banned from planet Earth and i'm still hiding somewhere. "Jonathan thought it was one of the highlights, CIan thought it was shite." I LOVE Clan. "DJ Shadow can go and shite next time ,as we say in ireland." He sure can and believe me he would too. Mind, if we were drug dealers in a Hong Kong club we would probably be huge fans of that nonsense. "Some guy called Jim Noir was good. I will look him up and see if he is good on cd too." Try his Eanie Meany ep, very cool indeed. "Gary Numan was terrible." Gary Numan was born terrible. One of my worst 80's nightmares. Can i PLEASE shoot him, Mike P.? "The Pet Shop Boys were possibly the overall highlight for me. I was not even going to go to them. It was the campest, funniest, greatest thing ever." Oh you're lucky, Garret. Very lucky. This show is something i want to know more about. "Basement Jaxx were good. Not great." What you were really trying to say was that they were great, not good. This time i forgive you. "The toilets were dirty. There were urinals for girls." THIS is what Basement Jaxx are all about. "I had to give my scissor sisters ticket away as i'll be at a conference that day. I'm still sipped off about that." I'm sipped off about just reading that. Don't worry, Garret. It's going to be a long time before SS are gone and they just seem to get better. Nuri - --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 06:36:08 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: murderous intent NJC A Rock n' Let's Roller wrote: I want to cleanse the world of scum. So ... shoot me. ; ) Hi Vigilori, Can you say Jihad? Or does the wink mean you are singing Roses Blue? Love, Coke freak NPIMH: I'd like to teach the world to sing... PS. My mother-in-law is near death, and I can't sleep...sigh. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 04:23:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: NPs and recent gigs njc - --- Garret wrote: > That's the same Antony. Here is a video from > someone's mobile phone > at teh festival. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnTbLXut_Ms Since Antony was hidden behind the piano in the clip you sent, Garret, I checked out one of the other Antony vids on You Tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1HjDnsGcOQ&mode=related&search= He does not look at all as I pictured him. For some reason I thought he'd look more like Prince than Rosie O'Donnell! - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:04:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: "When the Levees Broke" a Spike Lee Joint, njc Now this is a film I'd like to see! > As would I, Jim - I'm sure it will make the DVD route so I'll Netflix it when it does. In the meantime, if you haven't seen his documentary "4 Little Girls" about the Birmingham racial conflict, It's also very well done. Bob Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:01:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: heard a joni cover on the radio Was it the Counting Crows cover? I sorta think not because you said you had never heard it before. Bob Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:07:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Covers, Volume 7 You're welcome, Mark - I'm happy to share and I really enjoy reading the feedback. Goldie's cover is great and not cheesy like you say, and she knows that the phrase is Mattala Moon and not Mantle Of The Moon, so she gets bonus points for that. And hey, we're just 2 slim weeks away from another new release. Bob, in Raleigh for the weekend Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 06:18:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: NPs and recent gigs njc Smurf wrote: "Garret wrote: "That's the same Antony." "He does not look at all as I pictured him. For some reason I thought he'd look more like Prince than Rosie O'Donnell!" Hey Smurf, you know how women after plastics, face-lifts and botox suddenly look like they're all Amanda Lear? Well that's what happens to men after rehab - they suddenly all look like Rosie O'Donnell. Nuri - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2"/min or less. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:01:33 -0400 (EDT) From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: Re: NPs and recent gigs njc I'm just glad some of you all have discovered him. I wrote to the list a couple of years back when I heard his first 4 song release. Of course the ever open to all kinds of talent Muller wrote back and I sent him a sampling of his music. Antony sings Hallelujah in in the new Leonard Cohen movie and steals the show! Like fine wine, or aged scotch, his is an acquired taste, but worth the wait! Jerry > Smurf wrote: "Garret wrote: > > "That's the same Antony." > > "He does not look at all as I pictured him. For some reason I thought > he'd look more like Prince than Rosie O'Donnell!" > > > Hey Smurf, you know how women after plastics, face-lifts and botox > suddenly look like they're all Amanda Lear? Well that's what happens to > men after rehab - they suddenly all look like Rosie O'Donnell. > > Nuri > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > countries) for 2"/min or less. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:52:36 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: to fest or not to fest What would you tell a person who isn't into Joni as much as we are and because of that doesn't think he'd fit in at a "Joni" fest? He is Canadian, plays guitar and cries and sings... rock and Spanish guitar. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:03:31 -0400 (EDT) From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: Re: to fest or not to fest I can't imagine any musician not having a wonderful time at any Jonifest. Jerry > What would you tell a person who isn't into Joni as much as we are and > because of that doesn't think he'd fit in at a "Joni" fest? > > He is Canadian, plays guitar and cries and sings... rock and Spanish > guitar. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 17:09:53 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: RE: murderous intent NJC.doc Hi Lori, I imagine you would agree that everything you say is 'your opinion' and is to be interpreted as a personal opinion. My responses below are also 'my personal opinion' and I don't speak for anyone else. 1. >>Some people need killin'<< - - No, "some people need/want other people to be killed", or if you prefer, "some people need to kill". This is not a pedantic distinction. 2. >>We should be SURE of guilt before putting someone to death<< - Of course we should be sure of guilt, but how many examples do we need of Sacco and Vanzetti, Timothy Evans, the Salem Witch Trails, the Scottsboro boys (convicted but only escaping execution after many retrials). I have seen reports of thousands being wrongly executed, and I've seen reports which say the figure is closer to zero. If it were only one, then that is too many. Britain doesn't execute people, which is just as well for the Birmingham Six and the Guildford Four and many others who were proved innocent after many years in prison, 17 years, I think, in the case of the Birmingham Six. 3. >>...once guilt is established beyond all doubt, then "Let's roll"<<. - - I think the above paragraph shows that I do not believe guilt can be established beyond all doubt where political motives lead to corrupt practice in the legal and police services, especially in the case of IRA trials. The police locked up 6 men for 17 years although they knew the names of the men who really murdered the victims. Sometimes the public's call for blood produces extreme pressure on the police to find the responsible, or the patsy, if they can't find the real killers. 4. >>I have no time for pedophiles, rapists, armed robbers, killers.<< - - me neither, but I don't want the state to execute people, for the above reasons. Armed robbers who don't injure anyone should be executed? An individual armed with a penknife? 5. >>I'm not running around angry or feeling violent, and it would not give me pleasure to be the executioner, but -- along the lines of doing whatever it takes to make the world a better place -- I'd do it. Strictly speaking, I guess it lumps me in with those who would commit violent crimes against other humans.<< - - In my opinion the state shouldn't have the right to execute anyone, and private citizens should have even less right, or opportunity. mike in bcn "Everybody's gotta wonder what's the matter with this cruel world today" - Thunder on the Mountain - Bob Dylan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 08:56:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: NPs and recent gigs njc - --- Jerry wrote: > I'm just glad some of you all have discovered him. Like fine > wine, or aged > scotch, his is an > acquired taste, but worth the wait! Thanks, Jerry. I got on the bandwagon last fall. I do like Antony very much, but I have a very good friend whom I turned on to A & the Js who has practically had religious experiences with "I Am a Bird Now." Another friend at work borrowed my CD and returned it to me saying that he was surprised I liked such sad music! Oy! Better keep "Blue" away from that one! Also, Nuri, what do you mean by saying that Antony has been through rehab in your email about plastic surgery? Did you mean he had had plastic surgery, or that he had been through a detoxification program? - --Smurf NP: "We Formed a Band," Art Brut . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:02:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: "When the Levees Broke" a Spike Lee Joint, njc a Spike Lee joint?? would that be called a "sploint"? ;) We saw it. Tried to keep a somewhat objective perspective while watching. Sometimes, I swear it seems people think that Bush and friends conjured this storm out of the sky and purposely sicc'ed it on NO. It tore us up pretty good, watching it. I was impressed with the anger and indignation of some of the people interviewed. Hope they take it to the polls with them. Em - --- "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" wrote: > Now this is a film I'd like to see! Spike Lee has made a 4 hour > documentary > on what Katrina did to the Mississippi and (presumably) what the Army > Corps > of Engineers did to New Orleans. It's gonna be on HBO so maybe I'll > be able > rent it? > > All the best, > Jim L. > > PS, Good news/ Bad news / Good news: > Good news: Dayton's only "cool" record store is open till 10 PM on > Friday > night. > Bad news: They have been bought by a chain. > Good news: They promise to keep the staff, the funky vibe, and the > "used" > music section. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:35:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: NPs and recent gigs njc "Did you mean he had had plastic surgery, or that he had been through a detoxification program?" It was just something silly that Boy George said about himself once, Smurf. Nothing to do with A., though. Nuri - --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:40:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: "When the Levees Broke" a Spike Lee Joint, njc - --- Em wrote: > > Sometimes, I swear it seems people think that Bush > and friends conjured > this storm out of the sky and purposely sicc'ed it > on NO. You have some evidence that they didn't, Em? XO, - --Smurf . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:43:18 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: "When the Levees Broke" a Spike Lee Joint, njc I watched over half of it on Sept 11 instead of the fake-u-drama... - -it's been on for a couple of weeks. Very well done, heart wrenching, and too long. Send me an editor ! George Bush doesn't care about black people. Not so much because they are black. He doesn't care about white people either, unless they are of his economic upper 1%. Light that sploint. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:52:51 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: murderous intent NJC While I don't believe in capital punishment (killing is wrong unless it's sanctioned?), there are certain people who, as Lori says, are complete scumbags, and I would not miss if someone took them out. That said, I do not trust the government to have that power. DNA is infallable? Yes, unless it's faked. Then you are screwed forever. Some cops lie, that's well established. Did you know the definition of treason (punishable by death) has been expanded in the last few years? What if the fascists decide that denouncing your leader is treasonous? Fornicators, adulterers, blah, blah, ...we must not forget we are still neanderthals with cell phones. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 18:52:01 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: "When the Levees Broke" a Spike Lee Joint, njc I watched it over two nights when it premiered. I thought it was absolutely riveting. I didn't find it too long by any means. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Randy Remote Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 12:43 PM To: Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: "When the Levees Broke" a Spike Lee Joint, njc I watched over half of it on Sept 11 instead of the fake-u-drama... - -it's been on for a couple of weeks. Very well done, heart wrenching, and too long. Send me an editor ! George Bush doesn't care about black people. Not so much because they are black. He doesn't care about white people either, unless they are of his economic upper 1%. Light that sploint. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:01:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: to fest or not to fest - --- LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > What would you tell a person who isn't into Joni as > much as we are and > because of that doesn't think he'd fit in at a > "Joni" fest? > > He is Canadian, plays guitar and cries and sings... > rock and Spanish guitar. > That it's not all about Joni. That we don't sit around praying to her every night. That there are people who have a huge variety of musical taste (who also happen to be into Joni as well, but not exclusively Joni), that there are so many opportunities to perform (if you want to, and it doesn't have to be Joni) or just to sit around and jam with others, or talk about many, many things, or not talk if you don't want to. And more. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:05:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: murderous intent NJC - --- Randy Remote wrote: > While I don't believe in capital punishment (killing > is wrong unless > it's sanctioned?), there are certain people who, as > Lori says, > are complete scumbags, and I would not miss if > someone took > them out. > That said, I do not trust the government to have > that power. > DNA is infallable? Yes, unless it's faked. Then you > are screwed > forever. I wouldn't trust the government with that power either. And of course, if you watch "Prison Break", that will make you really paranoid about it. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:16:00 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: gas, now the economy tanks. . njc I think the economy is going to tank. . I am losing sleep over the national debt. . atrocious! in the future we are going to pay more and more taxes and get far less services. . I am going to be listening closely to the candidates in the 2008 election. We have to come up with a plan to reduce the debt NOW. Our children and our children's children will have to shovel their way out of this .. and us too. . the military budget manufacturing jobs going overseas fuel prices (medicade costs) I suggest that you pay off as much of your debt as possible. . if you are thinking of buying your first home. . try to do it soon. . keep every dime in your pocket. try not to live beyond your means. How are your children and grandchildren going to buy their own homes? . . The republicans have been fiscally irresponsible. . . This is very bad for all of us. They are not conservative. . . they are very very NOT conservative in their spending. Conservative? They are not conservative about the environment. . They will ravage it if they can. . . This word conservative . .. for the republicans. . . doesn't always fit. . I also believe that state governments need to stop supporting these stadiums and these other big projects. . they say it helps the economy. . many cities have taken losses with these big ticket items. . If they are such good ideas private industry will initiate the projects. . and the highway department has too much money too, in my opinion. . too many signs. . . sign sign every where a sign. . roads being rebuilt when they do not yet need to be. . . put a halt to this spending. in the mean time spend your money wisely. (well, I know I am the other extreme . . I tend to delay my gratification over and again. . . and I know I need to have some fun. . and I want to spend my money to go to the grand canyon one of these years.) Marianne From: Em Subject: Re: gas, njc now and cars and kayaks and Chicago when I filled up for 2.50 yesterday I have to admit I was thinking "wow, this is pretty decent - wish I hadn't sold the Mustang". I sold it a few months ago when gas approached $3. It was just no fun anymore. Motorsports have ceased to be fun with the palor of the gas thing cast over them. "Broken heros on a last chance power" just drive don't do well with gas guilt. Even riding my motorcycle for pleasure seems tainted now. Ah well, like Paul Simon said, "we lived so well so long". But! as I was filling up more cheaply I had this twing once again of moto-fervor. But it faded fast. I couldn't shake the feeling that even tho gas is now cheaper, things are still not OK. I don't feel I have carte blanche to burn fossil fuel even if I *can* afford it. It was fun while it lasted. Glad there are acoustic musical instruments....when all the oil runs dry and the coal is all burned, someone somewhere will be picking a guitar..and that comforts me. And riding a bicycle, and paddling a kayak and pulling stumps with a draft horse! those things are pretty cool too. But I will miss the '71 Dodge Charger R/T fantasies. :) Happy Friday all Em The country I was brought up in didn't really fall apart and die. Just seems that way from time to time. _________________________________________________________________ Got something to buy, sell or swap? Try Windows Live Expo ttp://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 19:16:12 -0500 From: "mia _" Subject: re: murderous intent - njc Lori wrote: <> I am against the death penalty. I don't believe we can ever know 'beyond all doubt.' Too much room for human error, evidence (including dna) can be planted, corrupt investigations, etc... But even if we could, I would still be against putting humans to death. All this talk about murderous intent reminds me of one of my favorite movies. It's a comedy called "The Last Supper." A group of liberals set out to rid the world of evil, but they are committing evil in doing so. It's a great movie with a great surprise ending! I made my son watch it when he was younger because I wanted him to see the potential danger of extremisms on both sides of the political spectrum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Supper_%28film%29 Mia ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:41:16 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Joni's Brainy Quotes I came across a web site tonight that I found quite amusing. I don't know who colated all these quotes, and I,m not sure if they're accurate, but it sure sounds like Joni ! http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/joni_mitchell.html Michael in Quibec _________________________________________________________________ Buy what you want when you want it on Sympatico / MSN Shopping http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/content/shp/?ctId=2,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=081805 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 21:18:28 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: The new Bush, njc The President has turned over a new stone. Did you hear the press conference the other day? Yeah, he said the Supreme Court was vague when they instructed the Administration to stop torturing prisoners to death. He said they didn't bring clarity to the NSA "folks" who stepped out of the shadows and gave direct orders to military police (who know and obey the rules otherwise). You remember the NSA. Those wacky "folks" who produced all of the wrong info before the war? The ones who made Tony Blair and Colin Powell look like liars? The NSA info was so wrong, and fit the President's agenda so well, it was as if the NSA was producing "dis-information" just like the KGB did in the old Soviet Union. (The BAD guys during the cold war. You remember; think hard!) About torturing prisoners, the president repeatedly said he'd "shut the program down" if he didn't get some clarity for those "folks". I guess he's fuzzy on "human dignity" and how torture might violate it. He should ask around because I'll bet there's someone in Washington who understands human dignity and torture! It sounds like an important thing to understand. I'm sure he's not too old to learn. Maybe he could pick up something new that he could apply to other situations. Like rebuilding New Orleans? Maybe John McCain could explain it to him. Maybe he could use examples and draw stick figures for the President. But then it suddenly sounded like he intends to draft a new law instead of shutting down the illegal torture. It was weird. As I understand it, this new law (which will probably take months in committee) would clarify his intent to bypass both the Geneva Convention and a decision of the Supreme Court of the United States. Sounds like a brave, new plan to me! Wow, with one new law, we'd completely change course! It's a shame the President's bill won't be approved in time for the elections in six weeks. Gosh, wouldn't it be terrible if everything stayed exactly as it is? It's uncanny how he's always right, especially when he said, "I didn't PICK this war!!" Trolling, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 02:07:37 +0100 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: new stryngs album njc On 15 Sep 2006, at 23:56, ron wrote: > well - it finally arrived today - only took a month to get > here................ A *month*??? Good lord, that's taking the scenic route! Not much more I can say in relation to your post, except "thankyou!" on behalf of the band for your kind words. It's nice to know you think we've outdone the first one though (especially as this one's self-recorded and produced!). If I can dig them out, I may take the liberty of posting up the lyrics to one of Strings' finest songs to date: I honestly think it's right up there with Joni. Anyway, for now, I'll return to lurkdom and website hackery. - --Chris chrisATstryngs.com http://www.stryngs.com/ http://www.myspace.com/stryngs "If you're ever lost, I'll beat the world to finding you" Stryngs, "Bobblehats and Beer" ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #337 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------