From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #308 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, August 28 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 308 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- NJC Mistakes in the Boys Room [Bob Muller ] Re: India Arie ["Randy Remote" ] RE: These are a few of my favorite (SNL) things NJC ["Richard Flynn" ] NjC Ignatieff on Madonna ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: Television NJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] These are a few of my favorite (SNL) things NJC ["Patti Parlette" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:18:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Mistakes in the Boys Room "Smokin' In The Boys Room" was by Brownsville Station, NOT Black Oak Ark. My bad - Lama, please include this one in your weekly apology letter, willya? Bob NP: Me'Shell, "Leviticus: Faggot" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:14:45 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: India Arie - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda" > But none of the individual releases amount to the same impact as CSNY. > (as Randy specifically listed in his original email about the > "renaissance") If they did, these guys wouldn't need Neil to play sheds > and command $2oo a pop. If you look at artistic content rather than mass appeal, it is a consistently strong body of work, excepting a few weak albums by Stills. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda" > For me and loads of my friends, there was a golden period from 1987 to > 1997 that included music from Public Enemy, Boogie Down Productions, > Eric B & Rakim, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, Beastie Boys, Massive > Attack, Bjork, Tricky, Portishead, Radiohead, --all the heads!-- >Nirvana, Pearl Jam, > Soundgarden, Cassandra Wilson's awesome Blue Light Til Dawn and New Moon > Daughter, Dianne Reeves, Wynton & Branford Marsalis and the list goes > on. Okay, I can't argue with that. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:09:16 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: These are a few of my favorite (SNL) things NJC My all-time favorite skit was the Mrs. Loopner (Jane Curtin), Lisa (Gilda Radner), Todd (Bill Murray), and the low-slung refrigerator repairman(Dan Ackroyd): Todd: "The moon rose unusually early tonight" Lisa: "No cracks, Todd" - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Randy Remote Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:37 PM To: Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama; JMDL Subject: Re: These are a few of my favorite (SNL) things NJC I would add: *The Beatles Meet Elvis skit with Carvey et al "I'm just happy to be here" *Paul Simon and George Harrison acoustic "Here Comes The Sun" *Musical moments too numerous to mention inc. Rickee Lee Jones' debut, Nirvana, Green Day, Chili Peppers, Norah Jones.... *Waynes World! Waynes World! Excellent! *Jan Hooks as Tammy Faye Baker on Church Chat *Streisand crashing Coffee Talk w/Madonna & Myers *The many talents of Phil Hartman *We just want to Pump (clap) You Up! *The Sweeny Sisters (w/Shatner) *"I'm Gumby, dammit!" *Schwetty Balls *Gilda, dear Gilda *Steve Martin introducing Sting as "Stin-gee" *Alec Baldwin and John Goodman as barflies in the Bob Brasky skits. *The Ambiguously Gay Duo/The X Presidents/Robt Smiegel cartoons *"...yeah...THat's the ticket!" I still watch SNL every week, and often the whole show is crap, but every once in a while they do a really good one (usually when they have a big guest). Their opening skit and news are the only time a network show is willing to be frank and irreverant about politics (except for the Simpsons). The people that say SNL sucks unconditionally stopped watching it, so how do they know? RR ps Tina Fey has left SNL, but will have her own sitcom in the fall and cowrote the excellent Mean Girls movie. She's hot (pant). - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" > * Chris Farley "interviewing" Paul McCartney. > * The Rutles mashing "Here Comes the Sun" with the author. > * Loren Michaels offering $5,000 for a reunion of the Beatles. "You > wouldn't have to give Ringo a full share unless you wanted to." > * Mac doing "Hey Jude". (Hmm, there's a theme here.) > * Linda Ronstadt backing Paul Simon singing on the Christmas show. > * Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Anytime she was on camera. > * Ladysmith Black Mambazo backing Paul Simon. > * Dana Carvey's "Church Lady" singing a Christmas carole, then slowly the > "spirit" over took her resulting in a wild drum solo. > * JT doing a medley of Chuck Berry and a new anti-war song. ("Sweet > Marie" > and "Slap Leather"?) > * Bill Murray as the lounge singer on an Amtrak train, trying a bit too > hard by adding lyrics to the theme from "Star Wars". > * The recurring Samuri skits. > * Joe Piscopo as Frank Sinatra. > * Tina Fey doing "Weekend Update". > * Eddie Murphy's recurring send up of Mister Rogers, "Mister Robinson's > Neighborhood". > * Jon Lovitz as a great thespian. "How did you do that?" "EK-ting!" > "Brilliant!!" "Thank you." "Thank YOU!!" > * An inmate's poem, "Cill My Landlord", by Eddie Murphy. > * Dan Ackroyd hawking "The Bass-O-Matic". He inserts a bass and blends > it. > Pours it into a tall glass and then hands the glass off camera. They > switch > cameras to Larraine (holding an identical glass). She takes a sip and > purrs, "MMMmmm. That's good bass." > * The first 4 times Chevy opened the show with a fall. > * Larraine Newman trying to decide whether it was safe to open her > apartment > door at night... when suddenly the theme from "Jaws" sounded. Priceless. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:48:40 +1200 From: hell@ihug.co.nz Subject: Re: Television NJC Em wrote: > WEEDS!!!!!!!!!! is the light of my televisual > life!!!!!! > I am so delighted and tickled by WEEDS. > And Mary Louise Parker's amazing eyes and soul > work as ballast for the relative insanity of the > rest of the show. Those eyes...I could happily > drown there. Popping out of lurkdom briefly to totally agree with Em on this one... We've just discovered Weeds, and it's also a "do not miss" show in our house (although we record it as it's on too late for us at 9.30pm)! I love the script and Mary Louise Parker is superb - as is the rest of the cast. When I remember, I also record Arrested Development. There's not much else that I go out of my way to watch, except for ER, Bad Girls (British women's prison drama), anything with Dawn French and/or Jennifer Saunders and occasionally Scrubs. And I'll usually watch The Simpsons if it's on.... Hell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:19:20 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Time for change Em wrote: It is just flabbergasting to me to see how many people apparently think things are soooo hunky-dory here in FL that any change would be abhorent. To have to promise to be the same old thing. They should use the tag line "same sh_t different day". Em C'mon up *here*, Em! We'll take you, and your little dogs too! We're chompin' at the bit for change, and we sure could use your help and some of your energy. From Nedlamont.com: "Time for Change in Washington, D.C. Change. Its the common thread linking the ballots cast for Ned Lamont last Tuesday (August 8th). Whether it was a vote to change the course in Iraq, fix our broken health care system, or a departure from politics as usual in Washington, D.C., the people of Connecticut are tired of the status quo. Unfortunately, the kind of campaign Senator Lieberman ran during the primary, and right out of the gate in his go-it-alone Independent run, is part of the problem. Americans are tired of being told anything but the Bush-Cheney-Lieberman line on defense is akin to support for al-Qaeda." Oh, there has been so much more I have wanted to share, but I've restrained myself, not wanting to bore you all (this is the Joni list, after all). But Em just put a quarter in my Wurlitzer and I'm starting to whirr a bit. I've taken a little sabbatical from the campaign, trying to catch my breath and get centered and lower my blood pressure caused by the disgust and anger I feel towards Lieberman who still *dares* to call himself a "devoted Democrat." Argh! Who does he think he is? Now he's Mr. Bipartisan "I can get things done" and effect change (even though he's been there 18 years already...) (Yikes...here I go again! Deep breath.) Yes, just for a little while, I've been a defector from the petty political wars, but love of peace is sucking me back that way. The Lamont folks have been leaving me voicemails and emails and I'm about to get back in the saddle again. En garde, you crooks and liars!!! I also got a few voicemails from Traitor Joe himself, begging and whining for my vote and telling me how "time and time again I've stood up against George Bush." HUH???? Oh, yeah, that's right....you stood up against him for a big smooch after the State of the Union address. I'm just mad that we have to do this again....we already won! So much hard work ahead, because Lieberman won't let the primary results "stand." Sour grapes, Joe, because you lost your democratic heart! Love, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:40:00 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: NjC Ignatieff on Madonna Michael Ignatieff, a Harvard and Cambridge educated academic/writer/journalist/media celebrity is seen by many in Canada as a very strong contender for the leadership of the Liberal Party, which means he may become Prime Minister of Canada in a few years. Saturday's Globe & Mail featured a very, very long profile on him. I couldn't help but relate this bitchy comment he once made about Madonna, in Britain, in the 80's. Said Ignatieff: `` I don't mind that I see her face on every magazine cover; I certainly don't mind that she is obscene; I don't even mind that she can't sing, can't dance, can't act and is nonetheless the most famous person on the planet. What I can't stand about Madonna is that she thinks she's an artist.`` Rarrrrr. Though it does make for pretty good copy, eh ? Michael (ducking) in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Deck to dock: outfit your cottage in stylish comfort. Check out Sympatico / MSN Shopping for great Cottage Living ideas. http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/category/shp/?bCatID=11,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=081801 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:34:12 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Television NJC Em wrote: I miss 6 Feet Under terribly. Hi Em, Brenda, recruitment, the potential of ending up six feet under fighting a war that isn't really a war at all but rather a "conflict" ... thought the show was going on here live (or dead?) in all these posts. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 03:08:32 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: These are a few of my favorite (SNL) things NJC Wow, Randy and Jim. What great memories you have! Thank you for stimulating mine. Off the top of my head, I loved: * Father Guido Sarducci (On one show he talked about having relics of Jesus...."I even hav-uh Jesus-uh Christs-uh high school-uh picture!" I remember watching that w/ my Mom when she came to visit, wondering if she would "get it" or be offended by the humor. She "got it" and still brings it up to this day.) * the LOUD family....LOL! (That means LAUGHING OUT LOUD!) * those "wild and crazy guys" going out to pick up chicks in their plaid pants and Czech accents....Steve Martin and Dan Akroyd...too funnee! * Todd and Lisa on the couch...."you're so funny I forgot to laugh!"...and "noogies!" (I still love Bill Murray. He's hot.) * Roseanne Roseannadanna.....(R.I.P. Gilda)...Bahba Wawa...her Patty Smythe (sp, sorry!) imitation. * Louise Lasser hosting....remember "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman"? My roommates and I LOVED that show. It was so weird. We could hardly see it because of course back then we had no cable....we had to keep moving the rabbit ears on the TV to alleviate the snow and to get some sound...but we stuck with it every time it was on. Do any of you remember it? STET? "Survival Training and Existence Therapy"? LOL! And she was on the cover of the first MS magazine I ever bought. But back to when she hosted SNL....at the time I never knew if her freak-out was real our not, but I just went to Wikipedia and saw this: "Saturday Night Live One of the first hosts to be barred from performing again was Louise Lasser, who hosted at the end of the first season on July 24, 1976. Lasser was said to be going through personal problems at the time and was reportedly nearly incoherent throughout the broadcast. Lasser refused to do all skits, and locked herself in her dressing room just before airtime, coming out just in time to do the opening monologue, although as all this was shown on air with cameras already setup it was presumably planned. This episode was such a disappointment to producer Lorne Michaels, that it was also barred from syndication until as late as 2002." * Point/Counterpoint (Was that a spoof on a "Sixty Minutes" thing? Yeah, I think so. Who was on that? Shana Alexander as the liberal, and who was the guy? I'm not googling anymore ce soir...it's getting late.) Dan Akroyd and Jane Curtin: "Jane, you ignorant SLUT!" LOL! Ha! I say that sometimes to this day when I'm arguing with female friends about politics. All in good fun, of course. * The Coneheads * Belushi w/ the "cheeeburger, cheeeburger...no FRIES! Cheeps!" skits. And quelle coincidence....when I was in Chicago this summer I went to "Billy Goat's Tavern and Grill" with my son and his fiancee....that place claims to be the origin of that skit, and they had a guy go down the line taking orders, barking out the same lines. He intimidated people, kind of like the Soup Nazi. I told Chris and Ashley about the SNL skits and they didn't know what I was talking about...oh well. And you *know* there may be more! Phew. That was fun. Thanks, guys! Now I have to get to sleep. First day of classes tomorrow at UConn. ("They're baaack!") End of summer, no more shiny hot nights. Sigh. At least I'll go to sleep smiling tonight instead of thinking about the war and the bloody changes (or lack thereof). Bon nuit et bonnes reves, tout le Joni-monde. Love, Patti P. P.S. How come Joni was never on SNL? (ONLY KIDDING!) Subject: Re: These are a few of my favorite (SNL) things NJC I would add: *The Beatles Meet Elvis skit with Carvey et al "I'm just happy to be here" *Paul Simon and George Harrison acoustic "Here Comes The Sun" *Musical moments too numerous to mention inc. Rickee Lee Jones' debut, Nirvana, Green Day, Chili Peppers, Norah Jones.... *Waynes World! Waynes World! Excellent! *Jan Hooks as Tammy Faye Baker on Church Chat *Streisand crashing Coffee Talk w/Madonna & Myers *The many talents of Phil Hartman *We just want to Pump (clap) You Up! *The Sweeny Sisters (w/Shatner) *"I'm Gumby, dammit!" *Schwetty Balls *Gilda, dear Gilda *Steve Martin introducing Sting as "Stin-gee" *Alec Baldwin and John Goodman as barflies in the Bob Brasky skits. *The Ambiguously Gay Duo/The X Presidents/Robt Smiegel cartoons *"...yeah...THat's the ticket!" I still watch SNL every week, and often the whole show is crap, but every once in a while they do a really good one (usually when they have a big guest). Their opening skit and news are the only time a network show is willing to be frank and irreverant about politics (except for the Simpsons). The people that say SNL sucks unconditionally stopped watching it, so how do they know? RR ps Tina Fey has left SNL, but will have her own sitcom in the fall and cowrote the excellent Mean Girls movie. She's hot (pant). - - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" >* Chris Farley "interviewing" Paul McCartney. >* The Rutles mashing "Here Comes the Sun" with the author. >* Loren Michaels offering $5,000 for a reunion of the Beatles. "You >wouldn't have to give Ringo a full share unless you wanted to." >* Mac doing "Hey Jude". (Hmm, there's a theme here.) >* Linda Ronstadt backing Paul Simon singing on the Christmas show. >* Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Anytime she was on camera. >* Ladysmith Black Mambazo backing Paul Simon. >* Dana Carvey's "Church Lady" singing a Christmas carole, then slowly the >"spirit" over took her resulting in a wild drum solo. >* JT doing a medley of Chuck Berry and a new anti-war song. ("Sweet >Marie" >and "Slap Leather"?) >* Bill Murray as the lounge singer on an Amtrak train, trying a bit too >hard by adding lyrics to the theme from "Star Wars". >* The recurring Samuri skits. >* Joe Piscopo as Frank Sinatra. >* Tina Fey doing "Weekend Update". >* Eddie Murphy's recurring send up of Mister Rogers, "Mister Robinson's >Neighborhood". >* Jon Lovitz as a great thespian. "How did you do that?" "EK-ting!" >"Brilliant!!" "Thank you." "Thank YOU!!" >* An inmate's poem, "Cill My Landlord", by Eddie Murphy. >* Dan Ackroyd hawking "The Bass-O-Matic". He inserts a bass and blends >it. >Pours it into a tall glass and then hands the glass off camera. They >switch >cameras to Larraine (holding an identical glass). She takes a sip and >purrs, "MMMmmm. That's good bass." >* The first 4 times Chevy opened the show with a fall. >* Larraine Newman trying to decide whether it was safe to open her >apartment >door at night... when suddenly the theme from "Jaws" sounded. Priceless. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:06:40 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Subject: Re: Draft (njc) B, I tried this exact logic a few years ago on the JMDL but it didn't work. After a kid enlists, the parents get indignant; the faceless government put baby in harm's way. Most of us figured out that learning to make doughnuts or write programs is on-the-job training which rarely results in injury or death. Logic is cold comfort when a voter has to welcome home a flag-draped coffin. The discussion is not rational, for better or worse. All the best, Jim L. From: music >What mystifies me about the whole military recruitment/volunteer service discussion is that anyone supposes that they will be immune from danger when they sign up, regardless of what promises are made. Isn't there a common sense definition and understanding of what the military /is/ and what purpose it serves? B> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:40:56 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: a memory - njc http://pferguso.myweb.uga.edu/sounds/indiana.mp3 just a beautiful guitar and vocal by elissa hadley, who died at 1:30 am this morning at the age of 36. i never knew her, just heard of her a couple of days ago, through one of my political blogs. only thing i know to do to honor her is share this with you. patrick np, - indiana, elissa hadley (from the album 'for now' by breathlanes, 2000) http://www.breathlanes.com/fornow.html patrick leader gotham house 150 east 27th street, #4h new york, ny 10016 646.270.6500 pleader@nyc.rr.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #308 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------