From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #296 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, August 22 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 296 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- two grey rooms ["Danilo Monno" ] Re: need joni help ["ron" ] Re: YouTube video Night ride home : correction ["Jamie's Box of Paints" <] Great slide guitarists(njc) [Victor Johnson ] Re: Great slide guitarists(njc) [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Joni's garden and synchronicity [LCStanley7@aol.com] Birthday Pics ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] Re: synesthesia, njc ["mia _" ] Re: Minnelli at the Outgames - NJC ["Lori Fye" ] (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? ["Lori Fye" ] Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? [Jerry Notaro ] Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? ["Lori Fye" ] Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? [Gary Z ] Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? [Jerry Notaro ] Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? ["Lori Fye" ] njc, CSNY "went too far?" ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? ["Randy Remote" ] Re: synesthesia, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: njc, CSNY "went too far?" ["Lori Fye" ] Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? ["Cassy" ] Clever Young Italian [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Warner Bros pulls Joni videos from Utube ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: njc, CSNY "went too far?", now John Fogerty too?? [Em ] Joni band demo finished [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Joni band demo finished [Bob Muller ] (NJC) When the Levees Broke ["Lori Fye" ] Taste test, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: njc, CSNY "went too far?", now John Fogerty too?? ["Patti Parlette" <] Re: Clever Young Italian [Deb Messling ] Re: Gravelly Voices Tour? (now with JC) [Bob Muller ] Re: Gravelly Voices Tour? (now with JC) ["Lori Fye" ] Re: njc, CSNY "went too far?" ["Patti Parlette" ] I love olives [frednow@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:30:56 +0200 From: "Danilo Monno" Subject: two grey rooms Hi all!!! Does anybody know the chords for Two Grey Rooms?? - -Danilo _________________________________________________________________ Prova Live.com: il tuo mondo on line, con notizie, sport, meteo e molto altro ancora. http://www.live.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:24:01 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: need joni help hi >>>em wrote >> what's a good, concise, preferably short webpage that describes the >> genius of Joni's guitar playing?? I am having to try and refute ive got a guitar mag somewhere at home which rates her in amongst the 100 most influential (as opposed to "best") guitar players ever ron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:52:07 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: YouTube video Night ride home : correction That sounds like typical Joni, singing an unreleased guitar song while promoting an album that is so multilayered the guitar is hardly to the fore. LOL. Oh, she does love being difficult and not play the promo game, doesn't she? I know that she went to Kauai in 1987 (hence the title of the painting of the same name - Big Blue Moon There, Kauai 1987) so she musta written it around that time, after her trip to England to record CMIARS maybe? Who knows? Much Joni Jamie Zoob On 20/08/06, Fred Hubers wrote: > Hi all of you at JMDL, > > Simon Montgomery, the maker of the Chronology of Appearances on > www.jonimitchell.com contacted me and corrected me on a few details. So I > went back to my tape of that broadcast and checked a few things. > What was right is that the video was shot in Amsterdam and the guy at the > end of the clip is indeed Jan Douwe Kroeske, who does an interview with her > after the song. But it was shot in 1988 when she was doing promotion for > Chalk Mark In A Rainstorm. To be exact, the name of the tv-show was "VARA's > Kippevel" (which is translated as "chicken skin", fyi). > By the way, thanks for all the nice reactions I received after my first > post! > > Fred Hubers > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 and on myspace at http://www.myspace.com/jamiezoob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 06:50:10 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Great slide guitarists(njc) > and I dont think there is a decent stand out Singer amoungst any of > the current > singer songwriters of the last 4 years. you know as good and with the > feeling of Joni, Crosby Stills and nash and Young, Jackson Browne, Van > Morrison Steve Winwood, Greg Alllman, Bonnie Raitt, Bruce Springsteen, > Paul Simon and you know I could go on for 4 lines more!!!! The > point > i am making is shurly we are due an outstanding good songwriter who > can > sing play guitar and piano and has a great voice, I havent seen a new > outstandingly amazing one in 5 years Check out India Arie.....her newest album is fecking brilliant!!! > I am sorry but I am not going to lower my taste in music just > to be one of guys, or to be with the in crowd Belive me I look and > look > for new artists but find none.So Yes Lowell George, Bonnie Raitte, > Duane > Allman, George Harrison, Ry Cooder and David Lindley are wonderfull > and > there all of a generation past, that would seem, has gone > forever??????????? > > ------------------------------ > Derek Trucks totally rocked last night w/ the Allman Brothers. His playing was unreal, unworldly, just fecking incredible!!!!! And last time I checked he was in his 20's.... There are new artists out there....you just can't rely on the traditional venues to find them. But they are out there, under the radar. I love me some Sonya Kitchell!!! Victor, sleepy and having to get up to go to a stupid meeting at work ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:50:06 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Great slide guitarists(njc) I saw her live in concert just a few weeks back. She was spectacular. I know Bob Muller likes her. Jerry >> and I dont think there is a decent stand out Singer amoungst any of >> the current >> singer songwriters of the last 4 years. you know as good and with the >> feeling of Joni, Crosby Stills and nash and Young, Jackson Browne, Van >> Morrison Steve Winwood, Greg Alllman, Bonnie Raitt, Bruce Springsteen, >> Paul Simon and you know I could go on for 4 lines more!!!! The >> point >> i am making is shurly we are due an outstanding good songwriter who >> can >> sing play guitar and piano and has a great voice, I havent seen a new >> outstandingly amazing one in 5 years > > > Check out India Arie.....her newest album is fecking brilliant!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:53:45 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's garden and synchronicity Anita wrote: We have a lot of butterflies in our garden, but, of course, no humming birds in England. Hi Anita, Your garden sound very beautiful! I'd love to see photos of it if you take any. Your mention of butterflies reminded me of the art work included in the Clouds album. Cool about the dragon fly! No humming birds in England? Here's a neat set of photos of how the little bitty birdies start out: _http://community-2.webtv.net/hotmail.com/verle33/HummingBirdNest/_ (http://community-2.webtv.net/hotmail.com/verle33/HummingBirdNest/) Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:53:34 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Birthday Pics Hello All Just to let you know that I've uploaded my pics onto http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk click on to Photo Gallery to see Saturday night's Birthday Pictures HOpe to see some of you soon XXX Zooby - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 and on myspace at http://www.myspace.com/jamiezoob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:35:29 -0500 From: "mia _" Subject: Re: synesthesia, njc Laura, thanks for all the cool scientific insight! I'll have to try cutting out the nutrasweet first, before I go running to the doctor. (What does nutrasweet do?). I've checked the one eye thing before, so it must be the brain, not the eyes. Also, I sometimes get headaches, but have never had a migraine, at least I don't think so as I've heard from others how horrible they are. And I've never had any headache after playing/singing when this visual disturbance occurs. It's more like I'm in a state of euphoria, or something.. like with endorphins floating around my brain. Maybe a self-induced trance.. I don't know. Sometimes I even wish it happened more often than it does. But your vascular theory makes perfect sense to me. Thanks again! We are so lucky to have you with us in this community! Mia <> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:31:22 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Minnelli at the Outgames - NJC Billy wrote: > GOSH, Lori--I completely disagree with you on this one (re: see below). > > Just because an aging artist--perhaps, past his or her prime--is no longer > filling stadiums (geeez!) doesn't necessarily mean they need to "hang up their > spurs" just yet. I mean, as long as they're enjoying themselves and still feel > they have something to offer (if not "accomplish") AND a fan base--however > modest--continues their support, then why NOT play into your sunset years? They > MIGHT just be having a BALL! > > Besides, some of the greatest musical talents were NEVER enormously > popular--arguably, Joni included--and often didn't aspire to be. And, who knows?--maybe > they ENJOY playing "little nothing casinos." If you don't wanna see 'em, > simply don't buy a ticket. Fair enough. I continued to be annoyed by the commericials for Styx that urge us all to BUY A TICKET! for their ONE PERFORMANCE! like everyone is really going to miss something if they don't, but what the hell. I find Chuck Woolery's commericials for the "resort" at White Bluff, Texas to be even more annoying. Maybe I'm just getting crabby (crabbier?) as I continue to age. Anyway, I was wrong about Styx's venue; they're not playing in Reno. They're playing in Livermore, CA. > And as far as Joe Cocker is concerned, I'd rather see him ANY day of the week > at his absolute worst than I would Tina Turner at her best. If I'm not > mistaken, he's gotten some of the best reviews of his life in recent years. That's just a matter of different tastes. I love Tina, can barely stand to hear Joe -- but then, I can't stand to hear Bob Dylan "sing," either (although I definitely respect his songwriting abilities). Ducking, Lori Santa Rosa, CA XXXOOO, Billy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:35:00 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? I just wrote: > I love Tina, can barely stand to hear Joe -- but then, I can't stand to hear Bob Dylan "sing," > either (although I definitely respect his songwriting abilities). This makes me wonder, since Joe opened for Tina's final tour, if it wasn't a plan by the concert organizers to have "gravelly voices" singers on the same stage. Dylan would fit that concept ... Ya know, someone should put together a "Gravelly Voices" concert featuring singers who sing like that. Who else would be on the bill? Rod Stewart comes to mind ... Others? ; ) Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:39:11 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? > This makes me wonder, since Joe opened for Tina's final tour, if it wasn't a > plan by the concert organizers to have "gravelly voices" singers on the same > stage. > > Dylan would fit that concept ... Ya know, someone should put together a > "Gravelly Voices" concert featuring singers who sing like that. > > Who else would be on the bill? Rod Stewart comes to mind ... > > Others? Ummmmm, Joni????????? N.P. Shades Of Scarlett Conquering The Seeding Of Summer Lawns ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:41:48 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? >> Dylan would fit that concept ... Ya know, someone should put together a >> "Gravelly Voices" concert featuring singers who sing like that. >> >> Who else would be on the bill? Rod Stewart comes to mind ... >> >> Others? > Ummmmm, Joni????????? I wasn't going to say it ... ; ) > N.P. Shades Of Scarlett Conquering The Seeding Of Summer Lawns LOL, Jerry ... : D Lori Santa Rosa, CA (actually, San Rafael right this minute) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:45:52 -0400 From: Gary Z Subject: Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? Kim Carnes would be a good one - haven't heard anything from her recently, or am I just missing something? I always rather liked her. Best regards, Gary Z. Lori Fye wrote: >I just wrote: > > > >> I love Tina, can barely stand to hear Joe -- but then, I can't stand to >> >> >hear Bob Dylan "sing," > > >>either (although I definitely respect his songwriting abilities). >> >> > >This makes me wonder, since Joe opened for Tina's final tour, if it wasn't a >plan by the concert organizers to have "gravelly voices" singers on the same >stage. > >Dylan would fit that concept ... Ya know, someone should put together a >"Gravelly Voices" concert featuring singers who sing like that. > >Who else would be on the bill? Rod Stewart comes to mind ... > >Others? > >; ) > >Lori >Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:19:45 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? And how about Bonnie Tyler? She's gravelly awful. Then there's Tom Waits, who out-gravels everyone, but he is gravelly-excellent. Springsteen was plenty gravelly on his Pete Seeger thing; matter of fact, I thought his singing was pretty rotten for the most part on that record. While I enjoyed it at first, I can't stand it now. Bob NP: Death Cab For Cutie - "Passenger Seat" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Jerry > Kim Carnes would be a good one - haven't heard anything from her > recently, or am I just missing something? > I always rather liked her. > > Best regards, > > Gary Z. > > > Lori Fye wrote: > >> I just wrote: >> >> >> >>> I love Tina, can barely stand to hear Joe -- but then, I can't stand to >>> >>> >> hear Bob Dylan "sing," >> >> >>> either (although I definitely respect his songwriting abilities). >>> >>> >> >> This makes me wonder, since Joe opened for Tina's final tour, if it wasn't a >> plan by the concert organizers to have "gravelly voices" singers on the same >> stage. >> >> Dylan would fit that concept ... Ya know, someone should put together a >> "Gravelly Voices" concert featuring singers who sing like that. >> >> Who else would be on the bill? Rod Stewart comes to mind ... >> >> Others? >> >> ; ) >> >> Lori >> Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:51:03 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? Bob writes: > And how about Bonnie Tyler? She's gravelly awful. Then there's Tom Waits, > You got to put Bryan Adams and Courtney Love in this concert too! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:32:28 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? You got to put Bryan Adams and Courtney Love in this concert too!> And they might break out in Joni covers! Bryan screamed his way through Raised on Robbery with Wynonna, and Courtney screeched her way through Both Sides Now. NP: Michael Frant, "Time To Go Home" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Dear Joniamigos: I'm sharing a letter to the editor that appeared in yesterday's Hartford Courant. The author had exactly the OPPOSITE experience that I did. Her letter blew my mind. Unbelievable. Voila: Band Went Too Far August 20, 2006 I thought going to the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young concert at the Mohegan Sun Arena on Aug. 15 was going to be a nostalgic, fun evening spent listening to some of their great songs from the '70s [review, Aug. 17, "CSNY Bold, Satisfying"]. In the guise of a concert, it was truly an anti-war, anti-government peace rally, for which we paid a lot of money to see. Everyone wants peace, but dedicating a song to those with loved ones in Iraq and showing caskets coming home was wrong. One video clip showed the Iraq death-toll ticker together with a collage of those killed there. Maybe they should have done the same for those killed on 9/11. Although 30 years ago I may have jumped up and joined in singing "Let's Impeach the President," I have grown up and cut my hair. I now hold a job, pay taxes and have loved ones in the military. CSNY, known for political activism, went too far this time. Many people walked out of the concert, offended, hurt and angry. It was kind of funny to see these rusty old hippies trying to inspire and activate a 50-plus crowd to jump up, get angry and sing along with their new anti-government songs. They failed miserably to inspire and entertain, which I believe is their role. For a group that supposedly promotes peace, it appeared that hate was the real message - hatred of our country and government. - ---------------------- They "failed miserably to inspire and entertain??" No way, Jose!!!! It was the greatest inspiration and entertainment I have ever experienced. "Hate was the real message." HUH?????? Hate???? Maybe hatred is in the eyes of the beholder? It was all love and peace, if you ask me! It makes me so sad when people don't "get it" -- sad for them, and sad for the world. Randy and Angela, did you see anyone leaving your concerts "offended, hurt and angry"? I didn't. I just saw -- and felt, to the core of my being -- a lot of power and passion and solidarity and hope and earnestness. Love, Patti P. P.S. On lighter note: Graham, near the end of the show, told us it was David's b/day the night before, so naturellement we all sang to him. After we were done, Croz gave Graham the finger (in a playful kind of way). It was funny! Those boys! Despite all the reports of past animosities, I saw genuine affection between all four of them. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:41:39 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? Melissa Etheridge and Dr. John - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Cc: ; ; Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:51 AM Subject: Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? > Bob writes: > >> And how about Bonnie Tyler? She's gravelly awful. Then there's Tom Waits, >> > You got to put Bryan Adams and Courtney Love in this concert too! > > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:48:57 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: synesthesia, njc In a message dated 8/21/2006 11:36:04 A.M. Central Standard Time, hvnphun16@hotmail.com writes: I'll have to try cutting out the nutrasweet first, before I go running to the doctor. (What does nutrasweet do?). Hi Mia, Nutrasweet contains aspartame which is largely composed of a vasoactive amino acid, phenylalanine. In some people it can cause blood vessels to react and give rise to migraine headaches or other cerebrovascular symptoms. Since what you describe is likely to involve a vasoactive phenomenon, doing without it might end your symptoms. Let me know the outcome. Thanks. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:18:51 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: njc, CSNY "went too far?" Patti shared a letter to the editor that appeared in yesterday's Hartford Courant, which read, in part: > Although 30 years ago I may have jumped up and joined in singing "Let's > Impeach the President," I have grown up and cut my hair. I now hold a job, > pay taxes and have loved ones in the military. > > CSNY, known for political activism, went too far this time. Many people > walked out of the concert, offended, hurt and angry. It was kind of funny to > see these rusty old hippies trying to inspire and activate a 50-plus crowd > to jump up, get angry and sing along with their new anti-government songs. When it comes to CSNY, I have to set aside my previous comments about certain aging performers, because, for me, they do not fall into the category of has-beens. How sad that the writer of the letter can't be bothered to jump up and join in singing "Let's Impreach the President." Apparently, just because he (I assume he's male, considering the haircut comment) has loved ones in the military, he agrees with the U.S. disaster in Iraq, and he supports BushCo? Does he think that everyone who opposes the current White House regime is an immature, unemployed tax-evader with hair right out of the musical "Hair"? (Does the question mark belong inside or outside the end quote?) Having spent some of Friday reading the 1000th issue of "Rolling Stone" and having my respect for what that magazine represented during the late 60s/early 70s (and later) revitalized, I came to realize (again) what I think is the saddest thing in the U.S. right now: the absence of revolution in the streets. BushCo is many times worse than Nixon and his henchmen, yet the dissent -- what there is of it -- is so quiet it can barely be heard. People are so busy pursuing piles of money while tuning out the world with their iPods. No one really gives a damn about much beyond themselves. As I wrote recently, the risk to demand change is apparently too great (even for myself). One would think that young people of college age would be doing something like what their parents and grandparents did in the 60s/70s, but they're not doing that. Maybe, when the draft is reinstated -- as it will surely have to be if this war continues -- they'll take it seriously and personally and do something. Until then, I guess it's up to "rusty old hippies," isn't it? Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:46:32 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? From: <<< Springsteen was plenty gravelly on his Pete Seeger thing; matter of fact, I thought his singing was pretty rotten for the most part on that record. While I enjoyed it at first, I can't stand it now. >>> I watched the Vote For Change concert (and recorded it) and thought Bruce sounded terrible! I have been a fan of his for years and still enjoy listening to his music. I was proud of him for doing his latest project and thought that though Mellencamp is often compared to Springsteen (even been called a Springsteen wannabee) he was miles ahead of Bruce when he did "Trouble No More" and has aged way more gracefully. I think the fact that his wife, Elaine, is the Almay model (the blonde in the Almay ads on TV all the time these days) keeps him young. I never thought I'd see Bruce and John on the same stage at the same time... ever. I almost wish I hadn't now because I can't help making mental comparisons and that's sad when I thoroughly enjoy both artists. Warmly, Cassy In the throes of downsizing stored items ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:54:31 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Clever Young Italian Hi folks. I'm glad Danilo finally introduced himself. He is a talented young Italian man. I believe he has a future as a recording artist. For those of you who feel the same, check out his latest uploads on youtube.com Bob, correct me if I'm wrong but, I think he is the first to cover the song, No Apologies. Watch it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo2IKPozQXc While you're there, watch his other clips like, a wonderful cover of The Boho Dance. Another first, I believe. I plan to package them all again and post to the list. He now has a repertoire of 26 Joni songs. Mark. NP No Apologies - Danilo. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:13:31 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? I was proud of him for doing his latest project> Bruce has definitely earned the right to do whatever he wants - and there are some good moments on the Seeger Sessions disc, and one KILLER track (O Mary Don't You Weep), but it seems to me that the BETTER option would have been to do a Woody Guthrie sessions record - Bruce has always been linked to that chain...Woody G--->Bob Dylan-->Bruce Springsteen and it would have had more bite in terms of him making some kind of statement than "Froggy Went A' Courting". And as I've told you before, I think Mellencamp has been underrated for most of his career - I've always enjoyed his work. Bob NP: KT Tunstall, "Another Place To Fall" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Feels pretty cheap to me, especially since it is so obviously a fan driven site. Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Play Q6 for your chance to WIN great prizes. http://q6trivia.imagine-live.com/enca/landing ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:25:38 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Clever Young Italian 26??? Dang, that eye-talian boy is stealing my thunder. Then again, I've got 2,134 to MY credit, so he's going to have to be like Avis & TRY HARDER. All kidding aside, you are correct about No Apologies - I don't know of any covers of that one. But TTT has spawned a couple in its relatively short life. Ian Shaw gave us the first "Stay In Touch" earlier this year. But Danilo has dodged the 80's, like everyone else (Danilo, that is a challenge....) 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Bob wrote: > And as I've told you before, I think Mellencamp has been underrated for > most of his career - I've always enjoyed his work. I have too, for the most part. I think Mellencamp hurt himself early on, though, by making his entrance as Johnny Cougar. Lori, having a rare day during which to post Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:33:47 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: (NJC) Gravelly Voices Tour? I have too, for the most part. I think Mellencamp hurt himself early on, though, by making his entrance as Johnny Cougar. > True, but that was never his choice - his record company at the time pushed it. Most young unknowns would have done the same thing if it meant getting/keeping a recording contract. As soon as he started receiving his due he transitioned it back. Joni on the other hand kept Chuck's last name forever. 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And I guess it was a slap in the face of sorts to those "over 50" ones who I think assumed that John would turn tail on his beliefs, like they did. Rather than being the honorable man that he is, and sticking by his "anti-war) guns as he did. Doing what he did made him less popular with a large chunk of that crowd. And he did it anyway. He has all my respect and affection. Em - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > Dear Joniamigos: > > I'm sharing a letter to the editor that appeared in yesterday's > Hartford > Courant. The author had exactly the OPPOSITE experience that I did. > Her > letter blew my mind. Unbelievable....snip..... > Although 30 years ago I may have jumped up and joined in singing > "Let's > Impeach the President," I have grown up and cut my hair. I now hold a > job, > pay taxes and have loved ones in the military. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:01:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lama \(Jim L*Hommedieu\)" Subject: Subject: Great slide guitarists andeemac said in part, >...most of the bands that play live on the Leno show sound terrible and everybody claps and Leno goes up and shakes there hands, "Great guys great".> Right. Just once I'd like to hear him say, "Listen, replace the bassist or I'll never invite you back. I mean it, you knuckle-heads. And it wouldn't kill you to polish the lyrics." andeemac said, >I dont think there is a decent stand out Singer amoungst any of the current singer songwriters of the last 4 years. you know as good and with the feeling of Van Morrison Steve Winwood, Greg Alllman, Bruce Springsteen, Paul Simon... I agree with the spirit of what you're saying but Duanne Allman and Paul Simon are not in the same generation as Springsteen. He fits the archetype but he's not from the 60s. In some ways it doesn't make sense to expect to see folk-rockers in the 21st century like we had in the Great Folk Scare Of the Nineteen Sixties. Imagine it's 1969 and someone's saying, "I just don't get the same feeling that I did from the jazzers. Where are the new hard bop soloists? Where are the great melodies? There isn't one voice nearly as good as Ella or Frank in the new crop." Every word might be true, but... We're very lucky to have recordings. Imagine you heard "All You Need Is Love" once, on live TV, and after that it only existed in sheet music. Thank you, Thomas Edison and everyone else, Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:14:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Warner Bros pulls Joni videos from Utube Michael O'Malley wrote: >As if someone is going to make money from these or what ? Feels pretty cheap to me, especially since it is so obviously a fan driven site. If they want to release "The Joni Videos" dvd, I'm ready to buy it. If not, what do they care? Cheap is the right word. Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Why keep checking for Mail? The all-new Yahoo! Mail shows you when there are new messages. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:45:35 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Gravelly Voices Tour? (now with JC) I wrote: > I think Mellencamp hurt himself early on, though, by making his entrance as Johnny Cougar. Bob replied: > True, but that was never his choice - his record company at the time pushed it. Most young > unknowns would have done the same thing if it meant getting/keeping a recording contract. > As soon as he started receiving his due he transitioned it back. Joni on the other hand kept > Chuck's last name forever. But wasn't that something she insisted upon doing, even over Chuck's objections? (Or am I rememberly incorrectly?) Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:45:36 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Joni band demo finished Greetings Joni lovers, I am please to announce that the demo of our 6-piece Joni band featuring Robin Adler is now done and previews our upcoming shows Nov 4th and Dec 3rd in San Diego. To hear it please click http:// robinadler.com/music.html. Hope you dig..... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:35:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni band demo finished http://robinadler.com/music.html Thanks for sending that, Dave - you guys sound great, but then you probably knew that already. I haven't booked any flights yet, but I'd love to be there for the show(s) to celebrate Joni's birthday. Who else is going? Anyone in the area got space for a refuge of the roads? I imagine a hotel would cost more than the flight! Bob NP: Dave, Robin & Company, "Harry's House" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:46:48 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: (NJC) When the Levees Broke "When the Levees Broke: A Requiem in Four Acts" Documentary. Directed by Spike Lee. Acts 1 and 2, 9 p.m. tonight (Aug 21, 2006); Acts 3 and 4, Tuesday, with repeated broadcasts through Sept. 13, HBO. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/08/21/DDGA5KLD031.DTL&type=printable ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:06:32 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Taste test, njc Anybody want to take a bell pepper flavor test? I bought 4 different colored bell peppers, cut a 1/2" square piece of each and then tried each one without knowing the color. I had somebody write down the color of the piece and my description of the flavor. Each one had a distinctly different flavor. Here are the results without the colors of the peppers: 1) Intense peppery flavor that got progressively milder. 2) Mildly sweet taste with lasting flavor. 3) The sweetest with lasting flavor. 4) Mild, not very sweet, watery. Find 4 different colors of bell peppers, and try the flavor test yourself. Write down which color bell pepper you think matches 1 - 4. I'll let you know if your picks match mine. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:17:58 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: njc, CSNY "went too far?", now John Fogerty too?? >Doing what he did made him less popular with a large chunk of that >crowd. And he did it anyway. He has all my respect and affection. >Em Mine, too, and thanks, Em dear, but you got your Joni word-order wrong! Tsk tsk.....it's "....looking for affection and respect, a little passion...." Love, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:49:18 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Clever Young Italian Danilio's videos are absolutely delightful. I love all these covers of the more obscure and challenging Joni songs. At 04:54 PM 8/21/2006, you wrote: >Hi folks. > >I'm glad Danilo finally introduced himself. He is a talented young Italian >man. I believe he has a future as a recording artist. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:53:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Gravelly Voices Tour? (now with JC) I dunno - why did she keep the "Mitchell", and when and why did she change from Joan to Joni? The ad posted on the bio section at JM.com reads "Joan & Chuck Mitchell"...if she was thinking "I can get out of this" when she was walking down the aisle, why did she tie her professional name to someone who she disliked? She had established a solid reputation as "Joni Mitchell" prior to her recording her first album, but it seems like it would not have been a major deal to market the new name - it's not like "Anderson" is a weird name or anything. Bob NP: Rodney Crowell, "Don't Get Me Started" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:15:45 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Gravelly Voices Tour? (now with JC) I asked, about Joni retaining the last name Mitchell after divorcing Chuck: > But wasn't that something she insisted upon doing, even over Chuck's > objections? (Or am I rememberly incorrectly?) Bob replied: > I dunno - why did she keep the "Mitchell", and > when and why did she change from Joan to Joni? > The ad posted on the bio section at JM.com reads > "Joan & Chuck Mitchell"...if she was thinking "I > can get out of this" when she was walking down > the aisle, why did she tie her professional name > to someone who she disliked? > > She had established a solid reputation as "Joni > Mitchell" prior to her recording her first album, > but it seems like it would not have been a major > deal to market the new name - it's not like > "Anderson" is a weird name or anything. Excellent points, and now it's my turn to say "I dunno," although there is something stuck in my head that says that Chuck was annoyed that Joni intended to keep his last name, and her attitude was basically "too bad." Anyone else recall this? (I've tried to search the discussion list archives for this reference, using the search function at www.jonimitchell.com, but I just get errors.) The only thing I can think of -- other than maybe Joni just liked the sound of "Joni Mitchell" better than "Joni Anderson" -- is that Chuck married Joni when she still had Kelly Dale (later to be known as Kilauren), and perhaps she wanted to keep Mitchell as some sort of link to her child. (Although I don't know if Kilauren was ever known as Kelly Mitchell -- anyone else know?) Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:27:10 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: njc, CSNY "went too far?" Dear Lori: You are so correct. " I came to realize (again) what I think is the saddest thing in the U.S. right now: the absence of revolution in the streets. BushCo is many times worse than Nixon and his henchmen, yet the dissent -- what there is of it -- is so quiet it can barely be heard. People are so busy pursuing piles of money while tuning out the world with their iPods. No one really gives a damn about much beyond themselves. " It sure is sad, and it gets so lonely when you're walking and the streets are full of apathetic strangers. I'm having a flashback to my son's commencement ceremony, when Congresswoman DeLauro said we need to "bring our troops home" and I stood up and clapped. Alone. The cheese stands alone, out of 10,000 people. I will never forget that experience. The initial embarassment, and then the incredulity. Why doesn't anybody care? Sadder than sad. I'm not "good at anger" (my analyst told me), but I got better at it last Tuesday! Yeah!!! That's one of the reasons why the CSNY concert was so wonderful and affirming. ("There are still more reasons, why I love" them.) I got to shake my fists like lightning while singing "Lets Impeach the President" with "the boys". I got to scream out "NO MORE LIES!!!" with Neil. I wept unconsolably during "Find the Cost of Freedom" when the pictures of all the dead soldiers were flashing on the screen. I got to give the finger when Graham inserted George W. Bush's name in "Military Madness." When David yelled (and believe me, he YELLED): "SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE MADNESS! YOU'VE GOT TO SPEAK YOUR MIND, IF YOU DARE!" I turned and shook my fists again while David exhorted the crowd to listen and act. You tell 'em, Big Daddy!!! Here's the set list. Look at the last few songs. Imagine the power and momentum and passion of those last few songs building up into a wild crescendo/musical orgasm with "Rockin' in the Free World" as Neil broke all his strings. Wow, wow, wow. I think everyone (in my section, at least) was looking around for a cigarette! August 15, 2006 Uncasville, CT: Mohegan Sun Arena Set 1 FLAGS OF FREEDOM CARRY ON WOODEN SHIPS LONG TIME GONE MILITARY MADNESS AFTER THE GARDEN LIVING WITH WAR RESTLESS CONSUMER SHOCK AND AWE WOUNDED WORLD ALMOST CUT MY HAIR IMMIGRATION MAN FAMILIES DEJA VU Set 2 HELPLESSLY HOPING OUR HOUSE ONLY LOVE GUINIVERE MILKY WAY TREETOP FLYER ROGER AND OUT SOUTHBOUND TRAIN OLD MAN TROUBLE CARRY ME TEACH YOUR CHILDREN SOUTHERN CROSS FIND THE COST HENDRIX LETS IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT FOR WHAT ITS WORTH CHICAGO OHIO WHAT ARE THEIR NAMES ROCKIN IN THE FREE WORLD Encore 1 WOODSTOCK (perfect ending, in my JMOCDed opinion!) They were all "on", Neil most of all. The way their faces contorted with the music and the words -- the emotions fueling them -- was a sight to behold. That's no act. "Sweet inspiration!" I don't know how they do it night after night, but they do. They failed miserably to entertain and inspire? Wow. That lady (yes, it was a woman -- Lucille somebody) is off her rocker. My soul sure got rocked. Just my two cents, of course! Love, Patti P., in for a lot of fear and loathing on the Lamont campaign trail in the next two and half months.....Cheney really ratchets up those two emotions....yikes....1972 had nothin' on THIS year! P.S. Here's a snippet from one of the reviews on csny.com....just to give you a little Joni mention! From Shawn Telford's 7/29 review: "It was a show with a message, one as implicit as "We can change the world/ Rearrange the world." The proof was in Joni Mitchell's remembrance of "Woodstock," the song's harmonies and hope drew thousands of hands into the air waving the "peace" sign. It's been too long since the gesture has flown so freely, perhaps now, America can again fly it high. Peace may never go out of style, but let's hope it doesn't go out of practice." Yes, Lori, it's been too long since we've been ramblin' down in the streets! (HELP ME! I'm posting about the CSNY concert and I can't shut up!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:06:01 -0400 From: frednow@aol.com Subject: I love olives Man, I love olives. I live for olives. I lurve olives. The olive is one of favorite fruits. There are many, many varieties, depending on where they were grown, their size, stuffed or not, marinade ingredients, method of curing, and degree of maturity ... green are least ripe, "pink" (rose/brown) are a little riper, black are mature, and wrinkled black are fully ripened (as opposed to those which are wrinkled black from dry-curing, although I love those olives, too). I have never met an olive I didn't love, except for generic canned supermarket "olives." Olives are ancient, olives are biblical. Olives are good for you; they contain important fats, vitamins, minerals, and proteins, and are rich in essential amino acids. Olives have no cholesterol, are high in monounsaturates, and low in polyunsaturates and saturated fatty acids making them one of the most healthful of all the fats and oils. And, of course, really good olive oil tastes really good. Olives are the only fruit that must be cured; they can't be eaten raw or cooked without removing a certain naturally occurring bitter chemical. They can be cured in oil, brine, dry-cured in salt, or even in plain water (takes a longer time). Generic canned supermarket "olives" are cured with lye in days (instead of months). We all know that olive branches symbolize peace. Ironic, isn't it, considering that olive cultivation began in the eastern Mediterranean 6000 years ago. Many supermarkets these days have good olives in their deli sections, in bowls or bins or bushels or barrels. Try some Gaeta, Halkidiki, Kalamata, Manzanilla, Nicoise, Nyon, Salonenque, Lucque, Picholine, or Sevillano olives today! - Fred Simon ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #296 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------