From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #283 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, August 10 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 283 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re:A Case of You [Victor Johnson ] Re: A Case of You ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] Re: Lamont wins in Connecticut njc/ now Brian Moore in FL [Em ] Re: A Case of You [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] lamont and lieberman, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Israel, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: A Case of You ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] Re: A Case of You [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: A Case of You [Catherine McKay ] Re: "A Case Of You", was: A blooper anyone ? ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Dar WillIams is doing a Joni cover - Rainy Night House [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Dar WillIams is doing a Joni cover - Rainy Night House [Bob.Muller@Fl] RE: Dar WillIams is doing a Joni cover - Rainy Night House ["bluejr@adelp] Re: Dar WillIams is doing a Joni cover - Rainy Night House ["Gerald A. No] Re: Israel, njc ["bluejr@adelphia.net" ] Re: Israel, njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Mona Fitzgerald's new email address [Monafitz@aol.com] Re: Israel, njc ["bluejr@adelphia.net" ] another Twisted cover [Joseph Palis ] Joni dreambook ["Michael O'Malley" ] Danillo [Mark-Leon Thorne ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 07:12:58 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re:A Case of You I do not agree that "those ones *THAT* ain't afraid" is a purposeful grammatical error. She simply doesn't care period. The rules of grammar don't apply at all. I have a degree in English Lit but I seldom if ever pay attention to grammar when writing songs. I don't think there's any premeditation here at all or any ulterior motives. It's just a song and when writing a song you can throw all the grammar rules out the window. Just forget that they even exist. Example: excerpt from "Master of the Ring" by Victor Johnson Dragons in waiting don't come around cities The king under the mountain don't live under the street I want to walk in the forests of Fangorn I want to walk in Durin's caves. The second line in this song is not grammatically correct according to the rules of grammar. Technically the verb should be "doesn't" instead of "don't". But this is a song and not a lecture so the rules of grammar are immaterial here. If I recall (its hard thinking back to 1988) when I wrote this song I just wrote it without thinking about it and did not hem or haw over how the line should read. It's something you just know. One of my classes at Georgia State was on Singing in Italian and we found that in many Italian arias, the way they are sung differs very much from how the same thing would be said in a conversation in Italian. Victor > Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:39:21 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Lama \(Jim L*Hommedieu\)" > Subject: Re: "A Case Of You", was: A blooper anyone ? > > She says "those ones *THAT* ain't afraid" which is > another purposeful grammatical error. Since she's > talking about people, I think it's supposed to be > "those who are not afraid." > > 1. those ones > 2. that > 3. ain't > > I agree with you, Catherine. It's incongruous > for Joni to mis-use English like this. Why did she do > it here? Was she trying to lighten the heavy topic > with blue-collar language? If so, she didn't feel the > need very often. She's usually philosophical and > rarely dumbs it down. > > All the best, > Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:48:57 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: A Case of You Hurrah... like playwrighting, it's streetspeak sometimes, sometimes it's business idiom. Just depends on the character you're writing. The line that always confuses me is 'It's all a dream she has awake' never made grammatical sense to me but I know what she means, like she's elliding two senses 'she has waken herself' and 'she has awoken the dream' but it never bothered me. My sentences are littered with my teacher's circled 'grammar' markings On 09/08/06, Victor Johnson wrote: > I do not agree that "those ones *THAT* ain't afraid" is a > purposeful grammatical error. She simply doesn't care period. The > rules of grammar don't apply at all. I have a degree in English Lit > but I seldom if ever pay attention to grammar when writing songs. I > don't think there's any premeditation here at all or any ulterior > motives. It's just a song and when writing a song you can throw all > the grammar rules out the window. Just forget that they even exist. > > Example: > > excerpt from "Master of the Ring" by Victor Johnson > > Dragons in waiting don't come around cities > The king under the mountain don't live under the street > I want to walk in the forests of Fangorn > I want to walk in Durin's caves. > > The second line in this song is not grammatically correct according > to the rules of grammar. Technically the verb should be "doesn't" > instead of "don't". But this is a song and not a lecture so the > rules of grammar are immaterial here. If I recall (its hard thinking > back to 1988) when I wrote this song I just wrote it without thinking > about it and did not hem or haw over how the line should read. It's > something you just know. One of my classes at Georgia State was on > Singing in Italian and we found that in many Italian arias, the way > they are sung differs very much from how the same thing would be said > in a conversation in Italian. > > Victor > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:39:21 -0700 (PDT) > > From: "Lama \(Jim L*Hommedieu\)" > > Subject: Re: "A Case Of You", was: A blooper anyone ? > > > > She says "those ones *THAT* ain't afraid" which is > > another purposeful grammatical error. Since she's > > talking about people, I think it's supposed to be > > "those who are not afraid." > > > > 1. those ones > > 2. that > > 3. ain't > > > > I agree with you, Catherine. It's incongruous > > for Joni to mis-use English like this. Why did she do > > it here? Was she trying to lighten the heavy topic > > with blue-collar language? If so, she didn't feel the > > need very often. She's usually philosophical and > > rarely dumbs it down. > > > > All the best, > > Jim L. > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 and on myspace at http://www.myspace.com/jamiezoob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 04:48:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Lamont wins in Connecticut njc/ now Brian Moore in FL check out this guy: http://www.votebrianmoore.com/ omg, I feel a fresh breeze! if only it could happen. :) Em ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 07:59:28 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Lamont wins in Connecticut njc Cutting and running is NOT equal to not supporting the President on his policies and war in Iraq. I heard that same stuff all through the Vietnam War. A sensible, timely plan for withdrawing our troops who are in the middle of growing hostilities which we can never solve is not cutting and running. There is a middle ground. Jerry > I'm glad you all are happy - its always nice to see one's preferred > candidate but I personally think, as a long-standing democrat who has worked > on national campaigns that this is a mistake both for the party and for the > country. cutting and running in the middle of this mess will only embolden > a lot of folks. further not withstanding what a poor president bush is, i > predict its not a route to win the presidency -- it certainly wasn't for > george mcgovern or eugene mccarthy. wait till the midwest weighs in - you > will see. oh well everybody has opinons so mine's not worth anymore than > anybody elses. i'll be curious to see what happens in CT in November. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patti Parlette" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:40 PM > Subject: RE: Lamont wins in Connecticut njc > > >> Thanks, Deb! I'm drinking sweet champagne, got the TV turned up >> high....but I can't drum Lieberman out of my mind. Lamont won after a >> massive grassroots effort, which I am proud (and frankly, emotionally and >> physically exhausted from) to have been part of, but Lieberman is undoing >> all the joy that could be. At first I felt sorry for him when he came out >> to "concede", but then I got increasingly pissed at his failure to concede >> to the will of the people. >> >> The people have spoken! Power to the people! >> >> There has been talk that Chris Dodd (our other Democratic senator who is, >> by the way, thinking of running for President in 2008) will try to talk >> him out of running as an independent, but that seems like a remote >> possibilty, given that Lieberman has to file by tomorrow. >> >> I send up my prayer: Joe, you have served us long and well, and I thank >> you for your 18 years of service, but please please please, don't muck up >> our future. It's time to bow out gracefully. We can't take this war >> anymore. >> >> Merde! A mother's work for peace is never done! >> >> "Let's go on to win in November!" >> >> Love and peace, >> >> Patti P. >> >> >>> From: Deb Messling >>> To: "Patti Parlette" >>> CC: joni@smoe.org >>> Subject: Lamont wins in Connecticut njc >>> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 23:12:00 -0400 >>> >>> Congratulations, Patti, and thank you for all your hard work!!! My >>> husband and I are enjoying our local music festival and just arrived home >>> in time for Lieberman's concession speech. >>> >>> Of course, his "concession" made my blood boil, as he claimed the moral >>> high ground by proclaiming that he would not "let stand" what his own >>> party just told him, but the fact is, HE LOST. Wee!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:11:57 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: A Case of You And I've never had a problem with that one...Joni's describing Marlena's perception of the scene around her and saying that it's like a dream, only she's not sleeping, she's awake. Maybe she could have added a "while" before awake for clarity - it wouldn't have scanned properly but then that's never been a major concern for Joni. Happy hump day everybody, and congrats to Lamont - power to the people. Bob NP: Joni, "Dog Eat Dog" (Dave Blackburn remaster) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:08:08 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: lamont and lieberman, njc I am so glad Lamont won. What struck me is Lieberman, in his speech (what do you call it, his speech after he lost. . .) in his speech, he focused on two things: 1. running as an independent in the general election, and 2. a heavy emphasis on how this race with Lamont was laden with partisan politics, - -------> the way he kept emphasizing this. . .. . seemed like this was a main focus of his speech thereby creating M O R E partisanship. doing the very thing he was complaining about. . that is how it seemed to me. . he just bugged me. . . as he does every time I see and him. . I can't explain why I just do not trust this guy. . . . .. . the tides are a turning. . . we've got to dream of a better day XO Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:14:56 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Israel, njc I do not claim to know enough about Israel and the conflict with Lebanon. . but if Israel is killing innocent civilians, why are we backing Israel? If the US is backing this, then it is no wonder that we are creating hatred toward ourselves. We may be asking for it to stop, but how are we contributing to this? This seems to me as a VERY BIG WRONG move on the part of Israel. . . it just creates more hatred and more enemies and more support for Hezbolah (sp?). Nuri, please check in daily. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:33:29 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: A Case of You A-haaaa! Now I see said the blind man! Oh, Joni, you are a genius... I take that one back Much Joni (thanks Bob) Jamie Zoony On 09/08/06, Bob.Muller@fluor.com wrote: > > > And I've never had a problem with that one...Joni's describing Marlena's > perception of the scene around her and saying that it's like a dream, only > she's not sleeping, she's awake. Maybe she could have added a "while" > before awake for clarity - it wouldn't have scanned properly but then > that's never been a major concern for Joni. > > Happy hump day everybody, and congrats to Lamont - power to the people. > > Bob > > NP: Joni, "Dog Eat Dog" (Dave Blackburn remaster) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you > are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, > dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken > in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message > are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect > the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 and on myspace at http://www.myspace.com/jamiezoob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:48:29 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: A Case of You No sweat, my man - we're all in this thing together. Now if you'll just explain the "your notches liberation doll" thingy to me we'll call it even. Bob NP: Sufjan Stevens, "The Upper Peninsula" (I absolutely love love love Sufjan - what a fresh and unique sound) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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But then we'd need to get into an argument over where to put commas (!!!) and I'm not going there! P.S. Most teachers are of the Mrs Grundy variety and don't know nuffin' 'bout grammar but know a lot about rules. Most of the time, we learn the rules only so we understand the language, and then are free to break the rules. I guess that's just my opinion, but it's good enough for me. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:35:02 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: "A Case Of You", was: A blooper anyone ? Hmmm....From a writers perspective, I know the difference between correct and incorrect grammar but sometimes, it just "feels" right and flows better to say it incorrectly. I don't know about Joni, but when I do it, it's definitely purposed. I think it was "purposed" when Joni wrote this the way she did as well. I don't consider it "dumbing down" at all. I consider it "artistic choice" and "artistic freedom" and something that is deliberately done to express an idea of a song. For instance, using the word "Gonna" instead of "going to" in a song sometimes gets the point across better and helps with its flow. Flow of lyrics is very important to me and I believe to Joni as well. I think all songwriters make deliberate choices with their words in some form or other. I'm just hoping that the listener can see it in that light as well. Communicating the idea and the meat of the song is what counts most to me. Sherelle Jim wrote: She says "those ones *THAT* ain't afraid" which is another purposeful grammatical error. Since she's talking about people, I think it's supposed to be "those who are not afraid." 1. those ones 2. that 3. ain't I agree with you, Catherine. It's incongruous for Joni to mis-use English like this. Why did she do it here? Was she trying to lighten the heavy topic with blue-collar language? If so, she didn't feel the need very often. She's usually philosophical and rarely dumbs it down. All the best, Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:50:30 +1000 (ChST) From: "P. Henry" Subject: youtube - more clips converted for you downloaders here are some more clips my friend converted from youtube. re: Suite Judy Blue Eyes, it is included here strictly for historical reasons. IMO, what a cluster****! the sound is horrible and this gang appears much too stoned to be onstage for any reason. BTW, he says he will do requests and, though he doesn't charge anything, he doesn't refuse donations either. (it *does* take him *some* time) he will also burn them to cd on request for cost. his name is Wai Chi and his email is moyashi@usa.net. Woodstock from the Big Sur vid http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=4398EA4D2CFB65FA Suite Judy Blue Eyes with CSNY http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F2CFF9D54C4D490E California from the Johnny Cash show http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=378F5E8B301B9D43 Amelia from the Shadows and Light vid http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=5B2B367136236868 and also In France they kiss on Main Street I hope you enjoy them. best regards, pat NP: Be Bop A Loo La - The Big Bopper - --- "The last time I saw Joni was Detroit in '68..." http://www.angelfire.com/pq2/phenryboland/ - --- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:00:44 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Lamont wins in Connecticut njc I am tickled pink that Lieberman (typing his name hurts my hand) lost I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see the asshole turn completely Republican, officially. Self-serving just like the majority of them. Good for you Patti for working so hard. I am so proud of you. As for expecting him to do anything for the betterment of the people, that is just wishful thinking. They are all the same, it seems. On their personal islands living in their mansions. Perhaps some of them can do something for the peons surrounding the gates but when the peons actually start to infringe upon their own personal betterment that is when you see who is a real statesman and who is not. Sadly, I can't think of a one that cares more for this country than they do for themselves. The experiment of this democracy worked for a while but now can only be seen as a failure. The haves and have nots, the poor and the rich. And it only gets worse each and every day. This administration has shown just how weak and how corrupt this government is when the pig and his cronies, along with a worthless house and senate, can subvert the Constitution at will without anyone bothering to stop them or hold them accountable for it. Checks and balances are failing and it remains to be seen if this country can right itself before becoming another failed empire in the history of the world. I have little to no respect for our government these days. And still there is a large portion of citizens in this country that still just 'don't get it." They'll lead or force us all down the tubes with them. mack mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:26:18 EDT From: Bobdog25nj@aol.com Subject: Dar WillIams is doing a Joni cover - Rainy Night House hey there all you "Joni-heads": Bob Paterson here. Mostly semi-lurk, don't even lurk everyday. But still - I do try to keep up with what the Joni-list is up to... Are you all familiar with Dar Williams? A "babe-o-licious" singer/songwriter from a bit north of New York City? as Tony-the-tiger would say: "She's Great!" She's quite popular here on the East Coast on the USA - and has 5 or 6 cds - and an active following here in the USA. I became a fan cause Dar has many of Joni's same characteristics - she's a brilliant songwriter first and foremost - and on a good day - her use of words is almost up there with Joni. Dar's songs are beautifully crafted - like little Swiss watches. And I think she's very beautiful. But a brunette unlike our Joan. She can play the guitar pretty well - and has a lovely voice too, by the way, so, you know, that helps with the overall singer/songwriter thingy. Anyway - Dar Williams did a show at The Rubin Museum of Art ( devoted to the "art of the Himalayas ) and Dar sang "Rainy Night House" - yes that Rainy Night House. Of course "Rainy Night House" is by our own Joni - off of Ladies of the Canyon. And also, there's a live version on Miles of Isles. OK... that's it... pretty much... just thought you all might want to know bye... Bob Paterson ( not the way-cool Scottish DJ ) near New York City, USA, Earth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:49:38 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Israel, njc Well Marianne, I don't trust the motives of our corrupt government concerning anything. As for Israel, I don't care one way or the other unless I am forced to. But lets put it in perspective. For instance the state of New York was surrounded by states and people that hated them just for existing. They didn't care what New York stood for or that there were human beings living there. They simply wanted all New Yorkers to not exist. They were constantly bombing New York, sending crazies into New York to blow people up, and would not stop for any reason. Perhaps it was you or your family that was bombed or kidnapped. The crazies made it clear that no matter what New Yorkers did they would never stop doing so. What would you do? What would New Yorkers do? Should they just sit there and allow it to happen? I am for peace as much as the next guy but I think Israel has every right to do what they are doing. What choice do they have? What should they do? Those civilian deaths are the fault of and the blame lays directly with those crazy Arabs. I loathe them and their idealogy. And before someone takes offense and purports I am referring to them, I am writing about those that are there in that situation and causing the problem. Logic dictates that those people have to be stood up to, just like a bully on the playground. And where are the tears for Israeli citizens? Where is the concern for all the Israeli innocent civilians that are killed on a regular basis by those bastards? mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:54:24 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Dar WillIams is doing a Joni cover - Rainy Night House If I'm not mistaken, didn't Dar do Rainy Night House at the Carnegie Hall Joni tribute??? > hey there all you "Joni-heads": > > Bob Paterson here. Mostly semi-lurk, don't even lurk everyday. But still - > I do try to keep up with what the Joni-list is up to... > > Are you all familiar with Dar Williams? A "babe-o-licious" > singer/songwriter from a bit north of New York City? as Tony-the-tiger would > say: "She's > Great!" She's quite popular here on the East Coast on the USA - and has 5 or > 6 > cds - and an active following here in the USA. > > I became a fan cause Dar has many of Joni's same characteristics - she's a > brilliant songwriter first and foremost - and on a good day - her use of words > is almost up there with Joni. Dar's songs are beautifully crafted - like > little Swiss watches. > > And I think she's very beautiful. But a brunette unlike our Joan. > > She can play the guitar pretty well - and has a lovely voice too, by the > way, so, you know, that helps with the overall singer/songwriter thingy. > > Anyway - Dar Williams did a show at The Rubin Museum of Art ( devoted to the > "art of the Himalayas ) and Dar sang "Rainy Night House" - yes that Rainy > Night House. > > Of course "Rainy Night House" is by our own Joni - off of Ladies of the > Canyon. And also, there's a live version on Miles of Isles. > > OK... that's it... pretty much... just thought you all might want to know > > bye... Bob Paterson ( not the way-cool Scottish DJ ) near New York City, > USA, Earth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:08:00 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Dar WillIams is doing a Joni cover - Rainy Night House I reckon the first time she did it was at Carnegie Hall, a couple of us were there to hear it. I hope she records it in the studio sometime. I'm glad she's still performing it. Bob NP: Ani, "So What?" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:59:24 -0400 From: "bluejr@adelphia.net" Subject: RE: Dar WillIams is doing a Joni cover - Rainy Night House Oh yes, Dar is just great! As a matter of fact, her first cd was recorded in a studio that I designed and built for my friend Rusty Annis, his Shoestring Studios in Belchertown, Mass. back in the late 80's. He said she was wonderful...wish I were there! JR in NH Original Message: - ----------------- From: Bobdog25nj@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:26:18 EDT To: joni@smoe.org, Bobdog25nj@aol.com Subject: Dar WillIams is doing a Joni cover - Rainy Night House hey there all you "Joni-heads": Bob Paterson here. Mostly semi-lurk, don't even lurk everyday. But still - - I do try to keep up with what the Joni-list is up to... Are you all familiar with Dar Williams? A "babe-o-licious" singer/songwriter from a bit north of New York City? as Tony-the-tiger would say: "She's Great!" She's quite popular here on the East Coast on the USA - and has 5 or 6 cds - and an active following here in the USA. I became a fan cause Dar has many of Joni's same characteristics - she's a brilliant songwriter first and foremost - and on a good day - her use of words is almost up there with Joni. Dar's songs are beautifully crafted - like little Swiss watches. And I think she's very beautiful. But a brunette unlike our Joan. She can play the guitar pretty well - and has a lovely voice too, by the way, so, you know, that helps with the overall singer/songwriter thingy. Anyway - Dar Williams did a show at The Rubin Museum of Art ( devoted to the "art of the Himalayas ) and Dar sang "Rainy Night House" - yes that Rainy Night House. Of course "Rainy Night House" is by our own Joni - off of Ladies of the Canyon. And also, there's a live version on Miles of Isles. OK... that's it... pretty much... just thought you all might want to know bye... Bob Paterson ( not the way-cool Scottish DJ ) near New York City, USA, Earth - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:00:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Dar WillIams is doing a Joni cover - Rainy Night House Sharon Goldburg, our resident Dar expert and merchandiser, told me she gets it as a request quite often. Maybe that will get it on record soon! Jerry Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > I reckon the first time she did it was at Carnegie Hall, a couple of us > were there to hear it. I hope she records it in the studio sometime. I'm > glad she's still performing it. > > Bob > > NP: Ani, "So What?" > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you > are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, > dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken > in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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Original Message: - ----------------- From: mack watson-bush mackwatsonbush@charter.net Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:49:38 -0500 To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Israel, njc Well Marianne, I don't trust the motives of our corrupt government concerning anything. As for Israel, I don't care one way or the other unless I am forced to. But lets put it in perspective. For instance the state of New York was surrounded by states and people that hated them just for existing. They didn't care what New York stood for or that there were human beings living there. They simply wanted all New Yorkers to not exist. They were constantly bombing New York, sending crazies into New York to blow people up, and would not stop for any reason. Perhaps it was you or your family that was bombed or kidnapped. The crazies made it clear that no matter what New Yorkers did they would never stop doing so. What would you do? What would New Yorkers do? Should they just sit there and allow it to happen? I am for peace as much as the next guy but I think Israel has every right to do what they are doing. What choice do they have? What should they do? Those civilian deaths are the fault of and the blame lays directly with those crazy Arabs. I loathe them and their idealogy. And before someone takes offense and purports I am referring to them, I am writing about those that are there in that situation and causing the problem. Logic dictates that those people have to be stood up to, just like a bully on the playground. And where are the tears for Israeli citizens? Where is the concern for all the Israeli innocent civilians that are killed on a regular basis by those bastards? mack - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:33:29 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Israel, njc Well, maybe they should have thought longer and harder back in 1948 about where the diaspora should be put. It seems that they couldn't have picked a stupider place than Palestine. They HAD to have known the hatred and animosity that could ensue, esp. considering the continued occupation of Arab lands. What a mistake THAT was. - ---What Arab lands? They all originate from the same place, the Middle East. That land is no more the Arabs than the Israelis. The Israelis should have long ago given a strip of land for the Palestinians to live on. That wouldn't have changed anything, however; and they would still be fighting. Good grief. mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:00:42 EDT From: Monafitz@aol.com Subject: Mona Fitzgerald's new email address _monafitz@comcast.net_ (mailto:monafitz@comcast.net) Cheers, Mona ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:10:33 -0400 From: "bluejr@adelphia.net" Subject: Re: Israel, njc - ---What Arab lands? They all originate from the same place, the Middle East. That land is no more the Arabs than the Israelis. The Israelis should have long ago given a strip of land for the Palestinians to live on. That wouldn't have changed anything, however; and they would still be fighting. Good grief. mack Perhaps so, but by putting them there sealed the fates of everyone else on this planet, because when the end does come, it'll be starting there. And it already has. It just seems to me to be an untenable provocation to put them where they are and them arm them and back them with $300B+ every year just for the sake of a base in the area from which we can maintain a watch over "our" energy resources. How pitifully shortsighted. And this is not bashing of the Jewish people by any means (as I haven't a shred of anti-Semitism), any more than my contempt for the policies of this country is some kind of bashing of the American people (well, that doesn't count neoconservatives). When and where will it all end? I can't pretend to know, but in my heart of hearts, I'm very sure that I'm going to live long enough to see it. JR in NH - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 23:49:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: another Twisted cover Hi JoniAmigos ~ esp. Cover King Bob Yesterday I bought an album fron an exciting jazz singer named Robin McKelle. She placed third in the 2004 Thelonious Monk Vocal Jazz Competition (where the incomparable Gretchen Parlato won the big prize) and her latest album Introducing Robin McKelle is a very swinging vocal jazz record that brings back the vibe, the sass, and even the sound of the recording of the 1940s-50s-era big band. I like the arrangements so much and her voice recalls very early Sarah Vaughan (around the time Vaughan was singing Lover Man, mid-40s). So taken I was with her that I searched for more info online and stumbled across her earlier album (2000) in CDBaby called Never Let Me Go where she recorded the Wardell Gray-Annie Ross' Twisted. This might be something worth getting, Bob. Moving across the Pacific, Korean-born and Japanese-bred Ann Sally who recorded two Joni songs from her debut album Voyage was said to have released a live album called Hallelujah where she sung All I Want. But Japanese import CDs are quite expensive, no? Ann Sally has a very exquisite voice that recalls Lisa Ono and Rebecca Martin. Joseph in Chapel Hill np: Robin McKelle "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen" - --------------------------------- Dicouvrez un nouveau moyen de poser toutes vos questions quelque soit le sujet ! Yahoo! Questions/Riponses pour partager vos connaissances, vos opinions et vos expiriences. Cliquez ici. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:14:53 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Joni dreambook Hello, I am so way behind on digests, I don't think I'll be able to catch up! I was away for the entire month of June. On my photo wesbite, Flickr.com, I came across this amusing tribute dreambook made by a creative Joni fan. Like many of you, I have had my fair share of Joni dreams. I thought you might get a chuckle out of this particular page from her book. http://www.flickr.com/photos/73756288@N00/178832851/in/set-72157594183168193/ Michael in Quebec NP: Kelly Lee Evans - Fight Or Flight _________________________________________________________________ Play Q6 for your chance to WIN great prizes. http://q6trivia.imagine-live.com/enca/landing ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:50:44 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Danillo Hello all. For those who are impressed by Danillo's Joni covers, here are the sound recordings. http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php? action=download&ufid=BF310D883893467E Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #283 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------