From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #262 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, July 21 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 262 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders [guyb@rain.org] RE: The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders [J Kendel Johnson ] RE: The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders ["Richard Flynn" ] RE: "hotel california" ["Richard Flynn" ] Backspin: 1991 [Jerry Notaro ] Another rave for George Michael's version of Edith and the Kingpin [Melis] njc, stop the war ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Bonnie & Michael McD. NJC ["Lindsay Moon" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:17:01 GMT From: guyb@rain.org Subject: RE: The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders You know when I first came to America in 1974, one of the very first things I did was order these Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders, for exactly this same reason - they had these Joni 'songs' on them that were totally unknown to my UK record collection. They turned out to be a bit disappointing - they are actually just short, spoken word stories/links from a concert, Carneige Hall if memory serves, with no musical content at all. But their existance verifies that Warner/Reprise vaults contain master quality Joni live shows - maybe we should lobby Rhino, who do a wonderful job of digging material out of the Warner/Reprise archives, and see if they could chisel permission for a full release out of Joni. Guy.....who also hasn't posted for quite a while, but reads the JMDL regularly and loves to follow all the JC, and the occasional NJC, threads >>>Frank Tortorici asked: when I was cleaning out my parents' basement today, I found an old Cat Stevens' vinyl LP that came with an innersleeve advertising some special record offers called The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders, featuring hot artists of the period (early 70s) including Joni, who was featured with BYT, Chelsea Morning and a few other well-knowns. But she is also listed as contributing two songs I've never heard of: "Spoony's Wonderful Adventure" and "My American Skirt..." Anyone know anything about these? Frank Tortorici - --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 02:57:56 -0700 (PDT) From: J Kendel Johnson Subject: RE: The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders I had those albums, too, and, since I rarely got rid of any vinyl for any reason, I'm mystified as to how I lost them somewhere along the way. One of them -- titled Big Red Ball or something like that -- did have at least one song, The Fiddle And The Drum. J guyb@rain.org wrote: You know when I first came to America in 1974, one of the very first things I did was order these Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders, for exactly this same reason - they had these Joni 'songs' on them that were totally unknown to my UK record collection. They turned out to be a bit disappointing - they are actually just short, spoken word stories/links from a concert, Carneige Hall if memory serves, with no musical content at all. But their existance verifies that Warner/Reprise vaults contain master quality Joni live shows - maybe we should lobby Rhino, who do a wonderful job of digging material out of the Warner/Reprise archives, and see if they could chisel permission for a full release out of Joni. Guy.....who also hasn't posted for quite a while, but reads the JMDL regularly and loves to follow all the JC, and the occasional NJC, threads >>>Frank Tortorici asked: when I was cleaning out my parents' basement today, I found an old Cat Stevens' vinyl LP that came with an innersleeve advertising some special record offers called The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders, featuring hot artists of the period (early 70s) including Joni, who was featured with BYT, Chelsea Morning and a few other well-knowns. But she is also listed as contributing two songs I've never heard of: "Spoony's Wonderful Adventure" and "My American Skirt..." Anyone know anything about these? Frank Tortorici - --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 08:12:43 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: "hotel california" Rolling Stone magazine pretty much panned the book, saying that it was just a gossipfest and was not as good as Hoskyn's last book about The Band. They did throw a little Joni mention in the paragraph-long review anyway. Bob NP: Dweebish, "Every Little Thing" (Beatles cover) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Hi Frank- Long time no hear, and Oddmund, too! The cuts you mentioned were both snippets from a live concert recording-the first was a little story about Ian & Sylvia's little boy Spoony (if memory serves), the second was an intro to "Fiddle and the Drum"...where she says she's wearing her American Skirt, and how it's strange for Canadians to be political "even our Prime Minister isn't political-haha"...maybe others can fill in the details. RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 08:37:02 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders You're right on, Randy - Spoony was a nickname, according to the story Ian & Sylvia called him "Mr. Spoons" or "Spoony". If somebody doesn't beat me to it I'll send these 2 files out in mp3 format in the next couple of days. 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Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > Rolling Stone magazine pretty much panned the book, saying that it was > just a gossipfest and was not as good as Hoskyn's last book about The > Band. They did throw a little Joni mention in the paragraph-long review > anyway. > > Bob > > NP: Dweebish, "Every Little Thing" (Beatles cover) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you > are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, > dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken > in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. 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"Mr. Spoons," Clayton Dawson Tyson, seems to be following in his parents' footsteps (and renting bicycles on the side: http://www.quartette.com/Clay/Tyson.html NP: _Illuminations_ Buffy Sainte-Marie - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:37 AM To: Randy Remote Cc: Tortorici, Frank; joni@smoe.org; owner-joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders You're right on, Randy - Spoony was a nickname, according to the story Ian & Sylvia called him "Mr. Spoons" or "Spoony". If somebody doesn't beat me to it I'll send these 2 files out in mp3 format in the next couple of days. Bob - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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I'm sorry to hear that her parents are recently deceased. I know how she feels. It's hard not to be lonely missing them. I'm very proud of her keeping it real and keeping the performance so good! I hope it is cathartic for her. I know it is for me when I get up there. Have a wonderful trip to Chicago and may something very special happen for you while you are there! Love, Sherelle >From: "Patti Parlette" > >Notre chanteuse Sherelle wrote: > >>Thank you for such a wonderful review of her concert! it sounds like it >>was a wonderful, intimate evening!!! Wow! She came up to your table at >>intermission!!! I would have loved to be there! She sounds so >>approachable! I'm sure brother-in-law will be razzed for years to come! > >No, dear Strawberry Fields Sister (SFS, for Catherine)! LOL....She came up >to our table when I saw her 30 years ago, not this past Sunday. I don't >think she drinks shots of JD these days! She's very clean. This Sunday, >after a particularly powerful number (can't remember which one) when she >got down on her knees, she exclaimed afterward (I'm paraphrasing): "WOW! >That was something! Who needs drugs when you've got music?!" >> >>Are both of Bonnie's parent's deceased or living? I thought her father >>passed away not too long ago but I'm not sure. I can understand her >>missing them. It seems that they were very close. > >Yes, they have both passed away. I'll paste a review at the end of this >post that tells you a little more. > >> >>On the humorous side, Bonnie has always been very open about having a >>crush on singer Michael McDonald. Though his hair is now silver and he's >>put on a few pounds hewas a looker back in the day! One of my friends saw >>her in concert once and as she was doing the opening of "Love Letter" she >>said something that cracked her up so much that she had to start the song >>over! She said, (and I slightly paraphrase) "I wish that Michael McDonald >>were a stamp so I could lick him!" (Smile) > >LOL....I get the impression that Bonnie "loves her lovin'!" She told us >that they had been on the road for some time, but that the next night they >would all get a break and get to go home and "get some." And if you ask >me, I saw some real sparks flying between Bonnie and Keb' Mo', or maybe >it's just their creative genius feeding off of each other. Nah, forget >that. She had sparks flying with *everyone*! She was really "on", >although I suspect she always is. She was just having a ball! > >When she did "Woman Be Wise", she introduced it by saying: "I just >looooove Sippie Wallace." I think Ms. Wallace would be proud of Bonnie's >version. (Personal note: this song has been kind of stuck in my head the >past few days..."woman be wise, keep your mouth shut, don't advertise your >man..." because I keep talking up my man, Ned Lamont! I'm not takin' >Bonnie's advice! ) > >Here's another Bonnie tale that a friend sent me the other day: > >"I have a funny Bonnie story....a while back.....('88? '89?) I was working >at that year's Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame induction dinner/ceremony.....at >the end, they'd have anybody who was there and care to come onstage and >jam.....I forget everybody who was there but two of them were John >Entwistle and Bonnie. Entwistle starts playing (REALLY LOUD...he literally >blew the amp up) I know because I was standing right behind it. Bonnie >comes over and starts humping the amp going "I love this guy" (Entwistle). >Later she came over to me and showed me a big run in her stocking. >Hmmmmm...... >> > >A run in her stocking? Ha! C'est tres Joni, n'est-ce pas? ("Wreck my >stockings", "a run in her nylons", and you know......) > >Okay, here is the other review I promised you. Enjoy! > >Love and peace, > >Patti P., getting ready to pack my bags for this flight tonight (actually, >tomorrow) because I'm going to Chicago ("we can change the world, rearrange >the world....") > >Bonnie Raitt Just Keeps Getting Better >July 18, 2006 >By DAN LEROY, SPECIAL TO THE COURANT > >Only a supremely confident artist would waltz out unannounced to sit in for >a song with her opening act. > >But Bonnie Raitt is about as self-assured as they come. And after >delighting the crowd Sunday at the Chevrolet Theatre in Wallingford by >making an early appearance with bluesman Keb' Mo', Raitt followed with a >masterly performance that showed exactly why her self-confidence is so >well-placed. > >Her 100-minute set revealed an artist who has managed a rare career arc. >Following several early-'90s pop hits, Raitt has returned to the bluesy >eclecticism that once confounded record executives. Yet her commercial >appeal remains intact. > >She used that freedom Sunday to venture into the churning funk of "God Was >in the Water" - a 2005 song spookily prophetic of Hurricane Katrina - and >to playfully cover one of her idols, blues singer Sippie Wallace. >Meanwhile, shorn even of the modest polish that producer Don Was gave them, >Raitt hits like "Something To Talk About" and "Love Letter" gained a >welcome new spark. > >The 56-year-old Raitt was also generous with the spotlight. Besides >duetting with Keb' Mo', she made keyboardist John Cleary a focal point of >her set, and the New Orleans native added soulful vocals and acrobatic >organ and piano runs to several tunes, including his own, funky >"Unnecessarily Mercenary." > >And for the last few numbers, Raitt invited Terry Adams, keyboardist of the >famed NRBQ, onstage to jam with her backing quartet. > >The best of many memorable moments, however, came when Raitt took her own >seat at the keyboard and turned reflective. After reminiscing about seeing >her father, the Broadway actor John Raitt, play Wallingford in a traveling >cast of "Oklahoma," she offered 1989's "Nick of Time" as a eulogy to her >recently deceased parents. > >The original version was a lovely, understated R&B song that also managed >to kick off Raitt's career revival. But she's grown into the tune and its >gospel undertones; now slower, sadder, yet sweeter, it's become the hymn it >was destined to be. > >Luring Raitt onstage early for an acoustic duet was undoubtedly a highlight >of Kevin Moore's evening Sunday, but the lanky, Los Angeles performer known >as Keb' Mo' certainly earned the assist. > >He and his quintet offered blues-inflected sing-alongs that proved a >perfect warm-up for Raitt, and Moore's conversational vocals and tasteful >licks won him a standing ovation of his own following "Whole Nutha Thang," >a smile-worthy salute to women. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:41:25 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Bush finally uses his Veto power When I see the debilitating effects of this disease first hand as I watch my friend Bob Benjamin stumble and almost lose balance as he walks towards me...I just can't sit back and watch any longer. Ask the House to override his Presidential Veto!!!! _http://www.parkinsonsaction.org/content/view/222/3/_ (http://www.parkinsonsaction.org/content/view/222/3/) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:32:46 -0700 From: "Richard Goldman" Subject: Re: Audra Absolutely NJC Hey you two, She was here in San Francisco in May, a week before her solo Carnegie Hall debut (at which she sang only Broadway show tunes, not singer/songwriter), and did some of the songs from the new CD for us here. Mindblowing live, especially God Give Me Strength, but mostly, Laura Nyro's Tom Cat Goodbye, which uttterly brought down the house (Davies Symphony Hall). I have a pre-release of the new CD, and while it's fabulous, it pales compared to her live performances....Don't get me wrong, the CD is great, and there's nothing like Audra Live, if you've been and seen, then you know. I think Damned Ladies is an appropriate Rufus cover, both being Divas, and a song about Divas.. but honestly, it's not on my top 10 of his songs. She's done his song Poses in concert but for some reason chose not to record it for this album. I hope she does it on her CD tour later this year and next. ~Richard Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:56:49 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Audra - Absolutely NJC thanks for this jerry. sounds absolutely wonderful, what a great songlist. i'd really like to see 'god give me strength' get some legs, as a standard, along with 'dividing day'. patrick np - friskyradio.com - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Jerry Notaro Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:19 AM To: Joni List Cc: knarf Subject: Audra - Absolutely NJC Audra McDonald's new CD Build a Bridge will be released on September 26 by Nonesuch Records. This is the quadruple Tony Award winner's first solo recording since Happy Songs in 2002. A concert tour in conjunction with the CD release will be announced shortly. The disc's 13 selections are all by contemporary composers; McDonald sang many of them when she christened the 2005 American Songbook series at Lincoln Center's Rose Hall. Build a Bridge includes two songs by her close friend Adam Guettel, "Dividing Day" (from The Light in the Piazza) and the title track; two by 1960s pop goddess Laura Nyro, "To A Child" and "Tom Cat Goodbye"; and Burt Bachrach and Elvis Costello's pop hit "God Give Me Strength." Also featured on the CD are songs by Oscar winner Randy Newman ("I Think It's Going to Rain Today"), Nellie McKay ("I Wanna Get Married"), Jessica Molaskey and Ricky Ian Gordon ("Cradle and All"), John Mayer ("My Stupid Mouth"), Neil Young ("My Heart"), Jane Kelly Williams ("Wonderful You"), Joseph Raposo ("Bein' Green"), and Rufus Wainwright ("Damned Ladies"). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:11:53 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: "hotel california" If you look at the notes, one primary source interview he conducted was with Joni. The Rolling Stone reviewer liked the Laurel Canyon book better. I felt exactly the opposite. Face it, most rock 'n' roll books are trash. The Hoskyns was pretty good and relatively literate trash. I agree with Doug that Joni doesn't come off negatively in the book. By all means borrow it, unless like me you have quite a collection of r 'n' r books--mostly trashy. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:27 AM To: anon anon Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: "hotel california" I read this book a couple of days ago. My main problem with it is that the information is all second or third hand. It looks like the author just collected all the interviews and other author's books he could find and made a story out of it. I prefer some first hand knowledge even if it's only one perspective. Fortunately I didn't have to buy this book, a friend found it in a used book store (already!) and I borrowed it. I didn't think it was too negative on Joni. It's worth reading but try not to spend much money on it. Doug anon anon wrote: > Hi everyone... I missed the "Hotel California" book discussion... > what does everyone think of the book? Is it generally a well liked > book? I know there is a lot about Joni in it.. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:05:05 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Backspin: 1991 From our Weekly Planet here in Tampa Bay: Backspin: 1991 Night Ride Home Joni Mitchell Geffen Although Mitchell9s 709s albums Blue and Court and Spark are regarded as her classic, this lesser known gem from the early 909s more than holds its own. Night Ride Home marked a move away from wanton experimentation into more succinct song orientation, with elegant melodies and literate lyrics, from kiss-offs (3The Windfall [Everything for Nothing]2). To harrowing narratives (3Cherokee Louise20. Mitchell9s voice takes on darker hues here, which meshes nicely with her flanged acoustic guitar. All told, Night Ride Home is an effort that is at once intimate and epic. Eric Snyder ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:34:02 +1000 From: Melissa Gibbs Subject: Another rave for George Michael's version of Edith and the Kingpin I know other folks have raved about George Michael's version of Edith and the Kingpin. I have always agreed that it is an outstanding take, but I was listening to it again this morning, and I just had to give it a bit of a rave myself. It is this recording that has turned me onto George Michael's singing, so I recently purchased his double "best of" album. I absolutely love his voice, and I'd dearly love to hear him do more Joni covers. He has such a mellow, smooth, sexy voice, but my only criticism is that I'd like to hear him be a little more adventurous with his instrument. I'd like to hear him do some more jazzy improvisation - he clearly has the talent, and his voice seems so right for some more Joni tunes. Melissa in Sydney NP in my head: George Michael, Edith and the Kingpin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:26:25 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc, stop the war >"BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- More than 14,000 civilians have been killed in Iraq >in the first half of this year, I didn't know that. . many seem to not talk about the innocent people, LIKE YOU and ME like you and me and our children our cousins our aunts and uncles our neighbors. . \ our fathers our mothers you and me the last reports I hear is that between 39,000 and 43,000 innoocent civilians have been killed. . many were killled in the beginning, too, with our air strikes. . friendly fire (?). . . "And so once again My dear Johnny . my dear friend . . . what time is this. . . . ." one who allows themselves to feel hold only on to tender strings of sanity patti wrote: My heart breaks for all the people scared and suffering in Lebanon and Israel. I can't imagine having to live with such terror. And then, of course, we have this, just in: "BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- More than 14,000 civilians have been killed in Iraq in the first half of this year, an ominous figure reflecting the fact that "killings, kidnappings and torture remain widespread" in the war-torn country, a United Nations report says. Killings of civilians are on "an upward trend," with more than 5,800 deaths and more than 5,700 injuries reported in May and June alone, it says." _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:04:12 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: Bonnie & Michael McD. NJC <> Sherelle, I am in complete agreement with Bonnie. If I were in a room with Michael McDonald and Kurt Russell I would probably explode. I've seen his CD at Target a couple of times now and gasped each time I see his picture. I seem to recall too she has quite a fondness for Dennis Quaid and had him in one of her videos so she could have the proper "inspiration." Nice work if you can get it . Lindsay ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #262 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------