From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #236 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, June 25 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 236 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: This just in... and DJRD ["Kate Bennett" ] Springsteen on Conan tonight njc ["Kate Bennett" ] clinic hotels & dates njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Roman Holiday SJC [jamiezubairi@gmail.com] Latest news from the Police State NJC ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Protest Song Lovers - NJC ["Cassy" ] Imogen Heap njc, Dave Gilmour too ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #180 [StDoherty@aol.com] Running to Joni & Tenth World [Bob Muller ] Re: Running to Joni & Tenth World [Deb Messling ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:06:09 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: This just in... and DJRD Jenny, I love chalkmark which brought me back to joni after a few years of too much of her disco/coke influenced music (sorry for those who like that period- I don't) ... chalkmark had joni in hythm again ... >i don't have much "new to me" joni left. just 'Chalkmark' and i'm not sure i want to delve into that at all. never say never i guess. jenny ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:09:15 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Springsteen on Conan tonight njc Glad I stayed up.. he made me cry (first song) & jump for joy (last song)... what talent he has ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:11:56 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: clinic hotels & dates njc Ignore that mistake...sorry! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:18:51 +0000 (GMT) From: jamiezubairi@gmail.com Subject: Roman Holiday SJC Hello All As you know I've recently been to Rome on pilgrimage to see Michelangelo's paintings at the Sistine Chapel. So we weren't allowed to take any pics of the frescoes but it was amazing. And I saw the Pope! Hope you're all well Jamie Zooby You're invited to view these photos online at KODAK EASYSHARE Gallery! Just click "View Photos" to get started. http://www.kodakgallery.co.uk/I.jsp?c=8yi33651.3vxa5xbh&x=0&y=vyi6ki If you'd like to save this album, just sign in, or if you're new to the Gallery, create a free account. Once you've signed in, you'll be able to view this album whenever you want and order Kodak prints of your favourite photos. Enjoy! Instructions: click "View Photos" to begin. If you're an existing member you'll be asked to sign in. If not, you can join the Gallery for free. http://www.kodakgallery.co.uk/Register.jsp Questions? Visit http://help.kodakgallery.co.uk. - ------------------------------------------------------------ EASYSHARE Gallery Customer Service http://help.kodakgallery.co.uk/support Phone: 0845 3001809 Kingsfordweg 151 1043 GR Amsterdam The Netherlands - ------------------------------------------------------------ If you cannot see the links above, copy and paste the following URL directly into your browser: http://www.kodakgallery.co.uk/I.jsp?c=8yi33651.3vxa5xbh&x=0&y=vyi6ki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:40:20 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Latest news from the Police State NJC >I don't know why the F*CK we pretend we're bringing freedom to the Mideast, when all of our liberties are daily compromised. I hate Bush and his cronies and what they have done to destroy this country.< ..and not just your country; every day here (in Barcelona) there is more news about the CIA flights carrying suspected terrorists to secret prisons to torture them (or 'interrogate' them to just this side of torture, according to your definition of 'torture') and in today's paper the story that since 2001 the FBI has been spying on millions of financial transactions, with terrorism (once again) the justification for violations of human and civil rights. The 'rendition flights', of course, could not have happened without the cooperation of other governments, including the Spanish and the British ones, and the financial operation took place with the agreement of the Central European Bank, so it's not just Bush and his cronies. They are however, the instigators of these moves and others yet to come to light, I guess. I deeply resent the fact that the money I send to my family in the UK is checked out by the FBI for possible terrorist connections, and I deeply resent the fact that the airport I use when travelling to my favourite holiday destination (Palma, Mallorca) has been used to transport and torture innocent people. Now it's personal. I can't vote Bush out, but I can vote, and protest, against some of his lackeys in Europe, and I intend to do so. Fuck him, and them. mike in bcn np victorious dub -LKJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:00:00 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Roman Holiday NJC Zoob said : > Hello All > As you know I've recently been to Rome on pilgrimage to see Michelangelo's > paintings at the Sistine Chapel. So we weren't allowed to take any pics of the > frescoes but it was amazing. And I saw the Pope! > Hope you're all well > Glad you had a great time in Rome, Jamie. The Sistine Chapel is really amazing. Of course I'd rather be in Ontario seeing *Carole* Pope (from Rough Trade) singing "High School Confidential" or "All Touch". Oh that brings back some memories. Happy Weekend, Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:38:46 +0100 (BST) From: "Garret" Subject: Re: Rufus at Carnegie Hall (njc) Oh Richard, the jealousy is coming out of every pore!!!! That sounds like it was an amazing show. I can't wait for the DVD. Thanks for the review, GARRET Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:15:11 -0700 From: "Richard Goldman" Subject: Re: Rufus at Carnegie Hall (njc) Rufus at Carnegie Hall was utterly amazing. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:55:23 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Protest Song Lovers - NJC From: "Richard Flynn" <<< My favorite recent protest song is James McMurtry's "We Can't Make it Here": >>> I had never heard this song. Thanks for introducing me to it, Richard. It evokes strong visual images and I loved it. I was listening to a little Elvis Costello in the wee hours this morning as I was purchasing the Frou Frou CD from i-tunes. Mike had recommended Imogen heap and based on the frequency of my playing "Let Go" and my level of enjoyment I just went for it... I digress. I hadn't really listened to "Shipbuilders" in forever. For some reason I really "heard" it for the first time; I mean, I'd always enjoyed the song but you know how sometimes you can hear a song and enjoy it and not really "get it"? The counterpointing trumpet has always blown me away but it struck me hard that taps is a solo trumpet. I began listening more closely to the lyrics and got really curious about it so I went hunting on the net (as you do) and found the following at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/soldonsong/songlibrary/indepth/shipbuilding.shtml<<< The lyrically deft 'Shipbuilding' is one of the most intelligent"protest" songs ever written. Prompted by his anger at the futility of theFalklands war of 1982, Costello's lyrics rail against the war while stillfinding sympathy with the soldiers and recognizing that the dispatch of theTask Force is bound to help revitalize the moribund shipyards of the North.Few writers would even attempt to squeeze such multi-layered complexity intothe format of a "pop" song.The recruit cheerily looks forward to being "back by Christmas", but thewriter predicts that "within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards, andnotifying the next of kin." Costello later wrote: "Ships were being lost.More ships would soon be needed. So welcome back the discarded men ofCammell Laird, Harland & Wolff. Boys are being lost. We need more boys. Yoursons will do."With these heartfelt words set against a melody supplied by producer CliveLanger, 'Shipbuilding' was first recorded in 1983 by Robert Wyatt. Apt, whenyou realise that Langer's melody had been inspired by the plaintive way thatWyatt, former drummer with the Soft Machine, sang Billie Holiday's 'StrangeFruit'.Costello's own version appeared on his 1983 album Punch The Clock. And whereWyatt's version had been piano-led, Costello's featured a guest appearancefrom veteran jazz trumpeter Chet Baker, whose flowing solos subtly underlinethe song's real poignancy.On the 2003 reissue of Punch The Clock, Costello wrote that he always saw'Shipbuilding' as "less of a protest song than a warning sign." But whateveryou call it, the words of 'Shipbuilding' remain a fine epitaph for theentire Thatcher era: "Diving for dear life, when we could be diving forpearls.!"Costello was quoted as saying... "that's the best tune I've ever written orprobably ever will" >>>I had never fully realized the depth of this song and I just had to sharethis with all of you.For those of you not familiar with the "Sold on Song" website, ! I find a lotof music information there.Warmly,CassyIn "sharing mode"P.S. I first heard this song while watching the movie "High Fidelity".NP: Bach's Concerto in E, Allegro - Salvatore Accardo, Margaret Batjer ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:05:24 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Imogen Heap njc, Dave Gilmour too Yes, a little familiar. I heard her on The World Cafe. When she tells a story, she renames everything metaphorically. When she was explaining her electronic echo, she said, "Here's my parrot. " Without explaining to the radio audience she had set the thing to repeat her sentence. She does some really cool things with that electronic toolkit. The archives at The World Cafe http://worldcafe.npr.org/ is down as I write this on Saturday morning here at 11AM (GMT-5) but Imogen Heap's interview there recently was interesting. There's a big, inventive, clever brain behind the voice. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu BTW, on Friday, June 30, The World Cafe presents an interview with Dave Gilmour. >I addressed the artist Imogen Heap a couple times on here, so I am very high on her. If anyone is interested, she was the lead singer for a group called Frou Frou. They put out an outstanding album with Imogen Heap as the featured singer. It is as good as her personal release. I know it is not fair to compare (to you know who), but she has that daring jump into the deep end with her lyrics and music. Gotta love that. Bob, I'm sure you've heard this stuff....whatdoya think? Is it I that is treading in the deep end here? Anyone else out there familiar?> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:27:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Imogen Heap njc, Dave Gilmour too and add a layer of Gruff Rhys - --- "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" wrote: > Yes, a little familiar. I heard her on The World > Cafe. When she tells a > story, she renames everything metaphorically. When > she was explaining her > electronic echo, she said, "Here's my parrot. > PARROT. HERE'S MY PARROT.>" Without explaining to > the radio audience she > had set the thing to repeat her sentence. She does > some really cool things > with that electronic toolkit. > Speaking of which, a week or two ago, Sarah and I went to see Bright Eyes at Massey Hall. The opening act was Gruff Rhys of Super Furry Animals. I wasn't familiar with either GR or SFA (look! acronyms!) so I had no idea what to expect. Gruff Rhys is insane. He does all that stuff with electronics as well, playing notes or chords or making sounds with any of a number of instruments, as well as his voice, looping them into some electronic thingamajig and then adding more layers on top so that, at some points he was singing as a backup choir to himself and at others was playing a multitude of instruments at once. At one point, during one song, having added everything he needed, including several layers of his own voice in various harmonies, he just stopped, sat back in his chair and folded his arms to listen. The audience roared. He was quite odd, but very good in a quirky sort of way, combining a pop sort of music with layers of instruments, some of them recognizable and others looking and sounding as if he had found them in someone's garage. Mike P. in Barcelona, you may be interested to know that most of his songs are sung in Welsh and he has an accent you could cut with a knife. You can listen to some of his quirky but charming music at his website - http://www.placidcasual.com/gruff/ I've heard some Imogen Heap and Frou Frou too because Sarah has been downloading stuff like mad, and someone sent her some Imogen/FF songs. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:30:59 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Latest news from the Police State NJC There's the old adage about being careful not to become the thing you hate or fear (or something like that). with all the torture, spying, lying, etc this administration has truly become the ones they say they are fighting against. Speaking of bush's cronies here is a link to the story patti mentioned was on frontline last week- you can now view it online & I think its worth spending time to watch . especially, if like me, you've always believed cheney was the real president - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/ Npimh the song bruce played last night on conan with the chorus bring em home, bring em home _____ >I deeply resent the fact that the money I send to my family in the UK is checked out by the FBI for possible terrorist connections, and I deeply resent the fact that the airport I use when travelling to my favourite holiday destination (Palma, Mallorca) has been used to transport and torture innocent people. Now it's personal. I can't vote Bush out, but I can vote, and protest, against some of his lackeys in Europe, and I intend to do so. Fuck him, and them. mike in bcn< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:56:15 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Protest Song Lovers - NJC Geez I hate when the formatting is lost.: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/soldonsong/songlibrary/indepth/shipbuilding.shtml <<< The lyrically deft 'Shipbuilding' is one of the most intelligent "protest" songs ever written. Prompted by his anger at the futility of the Falklands war of 1982, Costello's lyrics rail against the war while still finding sympathy with the soldiers and recognizing that the dispatch of theTask Force is bound to help revitalize the moribund shipyards of the North. Few writers would even attempt to squeeze such multi-layered complexity into the format of a "pop" song. The recruit cheerily looks forward to being "back by Christmas", but thewriter predicts that "within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards, and notifying the next of kin." Costello later wrote: "Ships were being lost. More ships would soon be needed. So welcome back the discarded men of Cammell Laird, Harland & Wolff. Boys are being lost. We need more boys. Your sons will do. "With these heartfelt words set against a melody supplied by producer Clive Langer, 'Shipbuilding' was first recorded in 1983 by Robert Wyatt. Apt, when you realise that Langer's melody had been inspired by the plaintive way thatWyatt, former drummer with the Soft Machine, sang Billie Holiday's 'StrangeFruit'. Costello's own version appeared on his 1983 album Punch The Clock. And where Wyatt's version had been piano-led, Costello's featured a guest appearance from veteran jazz trumpeter Chet Baker, whose flowing solos subtly underline the song's real poignancy. On the 2003 reissue of Punch The Clock, Costello wrote that he always saw 'Shipbuilding' as "less of a protest song than a warning sign." But whatever you call it, the words of 'Shipbuilding' remain a fine epitaph for the entire Thatcher era: "Diving for dear life, when we could be diving for pearls Costello was quoted as saying... "that's the best tune I've ever written or probably ever will" >>> I had never fully realized the depth of this song and I just had to share this with all of you. For those of you not familiar with the "Sold on Song" website, I find a lot of music information there. Warmly, Cassy In "sharing mode" P.S. I first heard this song while watching the movie "High Fidelity". NP: Bach's Concerto in E, Allegro - Salvatore Accardo, Margaret Batjer ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:05:29 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #180 In a message dated 06/24/2006 3:09:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:07:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jenny Goodspeed Subject: Re: This just in... and DJRD cool! thanks kerry. sounds like perfect summer reading. don't lurk for too long - it's nice to have different voices chime in. and here's one now... : ) i just picked up DJRD on CD finally. though i had it on vinyl, i never really delved into it and so this is the summer to do so. i'm really loving the sounds and it seems the perfect soundtrack to drive around on muggy summer evenings. actually HOSL is the best for this purpose, but this is damn close. i like the loose arrangements and her dissonant melodies. the sense of humor. If there's a better song to run to than Don Juan's Reckless Daughter I'd like to know. I love running to this song. I have it on a play list of many songs to help my pace -and it's terrific. The fact that lyrically it's great certainly helps too (we're all hopeless oppressed cowards ... restless multiplicity). This is a vintage Joni song. I like the Tenth World ... does it need a purpose? by the dawn's early light ... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:46:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Running to Joni & Tenth World I haven't run to them all, but I have done lots of running to DJRD (the album) and it's a pretty good choice. Tenth World, although one of my least fave Joni tracks, is the best one to run to. Since she was linked to Don Alias at the time, it makes sense that she'd have a track that he helped write and also highlighted his percussion. Bob NP: Cornershop, "State Troopers, Pt. 1" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 01:59:52 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Running to Joni & Tenth World DJRD (the song) is the ONLY Joni song I have in my "treadmill mix." Also, I've also found that DJRD is the best Joni song to listen to when in an altered state of consciousness. At least that was the case back in the mists of time, when I still had occasion to alter my consciousness. At 05:46 PM 6/24/2006, you wrote: >Juan's Reckless Daughter I'd like to know. > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #236 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------