From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #232 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, June 21 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 232 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni Mitchell in somewhat pointless Toronto Star article -- njc ["Ron] Chat ["Cassy" ] you send it problems NJC ["mike laptop" ] Re: you send it problems NJC [Moni Kellermann ] Re: you send it problems NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: you send it problems NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] njc, Joni snippet, then teachers and kids ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: njc, Joni snippet, then teachers and kids [Catherine McKay ] njc, straightening hair, then Nicolette Larson ["Patti Parlette" ] Michael Owns Some Joni Songs?... [Nuriel Tobias ] Video Clips For Joni Covers [Nuriel Tobias ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:55:34 +0200 From: "Ron" Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell in somewhat pointless Toronto Star article -- njc hi >>>smurf wrote > And the bit about Sir Paul turning 64 tomorrow is > surely a sign of Armageddon. well - heather is obviously not going to need him when he's 64 i heard that he phoned paul simon on his (paul s) 64th birthday (sometime recently) and sang the song to him - wonder if paul (s) will return the favour ron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:23:02 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Chat Nuri and I are currently in the chat room on the Frappr web site. I'm happy to see a few others have managed to find their way there and put pins on the map. We will set up something so we can all chat very soon, Once at the map page, click on the "join" icon next to the Frappr logo in the upper left corner, then add yourself to the map. We have four countries currently represented. It's tres cool. Warmly, Cassy NP: Dust My Broom - Elmore James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:46:50 +0200 From: "mike laptop" Subject: you send it problems NJC Anyone know what is up with 'yousendit'? It is extremely slow (3 hours estimated time to send a 6 MB mp3!!) Any comments, or better alternative ways of sending mp3 files as quickly as possible? cheers, mike in barcelona np chinito chinito - ry cooder ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:36:30 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: you send it problems NJC mike laptop schrieb: > Anyone know what is up with 'yousendit'? It is extremely slow (3 hours > estimated time to send a 6 MB mp3!!) Any comments, or better alternative ways > of sending mp3 files as quickly as possible? http://www.mytempdir.com/ http://www.sendspace.com/ moni ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:41:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: you send it problems NJC - --- mike laptop wrote: > Anyone know what is up with 'yousendit'? It is > extremely slow (3 hours > estimated time to send a 6 MB mp3!!) Any comments, > or better alternative ways > of sending mp3 files as quickly as possible? > cheers, > mike in barcelona > np chinito chinito - ry cooder It seems to be kind of hit-or-miss. I've had stuff download within a matter of seconds, whereas other times it takes 10 minutes or more (I'm talking about files of about the same size - those zip files with Muller's Joni covers take a long time.) I also find it takes a LOOOONNNGGG time to upload stuff. It's hard to say how much is that site, how much is general internet traffic and how much is your own connectivity. I've had on-and-off problems for a few months with static on my phone line that has made internet really slow, or has caused the server to drop the connection and it's very frustrating, since I've had Bell in a number of times to try to figure out where the problem could be. I suspect the YouSendIt site is very busy (and it has a lot of other crap on it as well and I figure the more junk is on a website, the longer it takes to do anything on it). I guess that doesn't help you much, does it! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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I have so much admiration and respect for and awe of teachers....such important, life-bettering work that you do, and you have to be ON all the time, no matter what. My Joni beret is off to all you teachers! Je m'abaisse devant votre grandeur. May all the teachers here -- Lindsay, Emiliano, Mike in bcn (hola, amigos!), Marianne (who had a particularly difficult year, like me, with the death of our Richards -- our dads are/were both named Richard), Laura and Richard (although you teach "aging" children -- a *little* less stressful cuz they are better behaved, no?) "and you know...." -- have a wonderful summer, feeling unfettered and alive. Relax, rejuvenate, refresh, do whatever-the-the-hell you want! (NPIMH: "We love our loving, but not like we love our freeeeeeEEEeeeeeeDOM!") It's SUM-sum-SUM-sum-SUM-sum-SUM-mertime! And Catherine wrote, cracking me up comme d'habitude: "My kids are already out of school, since they're in high school. Matthew wrote his last exam today. Sarah is lazing about the house when she's supposed to be looking for a job. They are already at one another's throats. I've already had a phone call from Matthew complaining that Sarah is being a be-atch. She will be nice to him if she decides that she wants him to go out and get some junk food, because god forbid she should venture out on the street for that." LOL! I remember those days in my own kids' circle game...the phone calls at work. "MmmmmmAAAAAHHHHHHmmmmm!!!!!!! Chris won't let me watch Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! He locked the TV on ESPN. And he ate all the ice cream and he won't let Maggie and Luke out and it's HIS turn." I can just picture poor Matthew threatening, in desperation of being treated like a human being: "I'm gonna call Mom." And Sarah, with all her 18 year-old "you're-not-the-boss-of-me, just leave me alone, you brat, unless I want something from you, like junk food" attitude, nonchalantly filing her nails or painting or something. (The older one rules the roost, it seems.) And then Catherine gets the call, just to make her workday more pleasant. Kids. Ya gotta love 'em! I remember bringing this worry (about the boys fighting, when they were much younger) to our pediatrician, the coolest old dude you ever met, Dr. Breer (R.I.P.). He looked like Mr. Natural with his long beard. Anyway, I brought up this worry of mine (I worry sometimes) and he peered over his glasses at me and asked: "Were you an only child?". Nuff said. It's normal. Love, Patti P., gingerly emerging from the dark cafe of this past weekend, which was wayyyyyy rougher than I thought it would be. I was on a lonely road and I was processing, processing, processing... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:17:36 -0500 From: John Calimee Subject: Re: Joni. Writting. on 6/19/06 9:18 AM, Michael Flaherty at mflaher3@triton.edu wrote: > Joni has said she doesn't write at all anymore (songs). Hi Mike, Well, that's mostly true. But there are a few enticing bits of caveate. One, she does have at least one piece of music fully written and in demo form. It's a piece she's very fond of, but admits to not having the drive to 'finish' it off by putting lyrics to it, or recording it in studio. There were a few mentions on the list she was considering contributing it to other projects (film?). Then there is commentary by her in interviews since retiring, and info from others that she still sits out in nature, twiddling the neck of her guitar into a tuning, and playing. -The muse hasn't entirely left her. It's the 'recording artist' bit that has. Here's where my memory gets bad: there were a few posts that mentioned she HAS completed 2 pieces of music. (the twiddling and playing out on the rocks thing.) The mentions came up on list and scarcely drew commentary. Which was a surprise for me. Maybe someone has a better recollection??? Save me from my disconnect from reality. I don't expect these pieces of music to be put to word, recorded in studio, then released as part of a new CD. But there is the posibility her guitar tracks could find their way onto record, ala Tiger Bones. I would buy that in a heartbeat. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:25:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc, Joni snippet, then teachers and kids - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > LOL! I remember those days in my own kids' circle > game...the phone calls at > work. "MmmmmmAAAAAHHHHHHmmmmm!!!!!!! Chris won't > let me watch Teenage > Mutant Ninja Turtles! He locked the TV on ESPN. > And he ate all the ice > cream and he won't let Maggie and Luke out and it's > HIS turn." I can just > picture poor Matthew threatening, in desperation of > being treated like a > human being: "I'm gonna call Mom." And Sarah, with > all her 18 year-old > "you're-not-the-boss-of-me, just leave me alone, you > brat, unless I want > something from you, like junk food" attitude, > nonchalantly filing her nails > or painting or something. (The older one rules the > roost, it seems.) You've painted a very accurate picture. You must have kids or something ;-) The only difference is, Sarah is either putting on makeup or straightening her hair. She can be very nice and sucks up to Matthew when she wants something. Or she will resort to whining or name-calling if that doesn't work. Threats and bribery are also in the equation, as is calling in favours. And Matthew will ignore her for a while, but she makes herself hard to ignore and he is ultimately very kind-hearted, and not just a little greedy himself, so will often go out on the quest for junk food - which gets him out of the house and away from her, so I guess it works in its own weird way. And > then Catherine gets the call, just to make her > workday more pleasant. Kids. > Ya gotta love 'em! I remember bringing this worry > (about the boys > fighting, when they were much younger) to our > pediatrician, the coolest old > dude you ever met, Dr. Breer (R.I.P.). He looked > like Mr. Natural with his > long beard. Anyway, I brought up this worry of mine > (I worry sometimes) and > he peered over his glasses at me and asked: "Were > you an only child?". > Nuff said. It's normal. I've convinced myself that it's highly unlikely that they really will kill each other, so usually it's, "Well, I'm at work and you're a good subway-ride away from me, so I'm not sure what you want me to do about it, but I know you can work it out". All this will change once we move though, because I'll only be a five-minute walk from work so I will need another excuse. I'm so glad we have caller ID on our phones because I can pretend to be in a meeting! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:22:14 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: Joni. Writting. Yes on the net there is something about her writing new pieces and possibly recording them for a ballet for The Edmonton Ballet. It's on the jmdl site as well in the library about her having written for the ballet. It also says she might attend... Dunno Jamie Z On 20/06/06, John Calimee wrote: > on 6/19/06 9:18 AM, Michael Flaherty at mflaher3@triton.edu wrote: > > > > Joni has said she doesn't write at all anymore (songs). > > > Hi Mike, > > Well, that's mostly true. But there are a few enticing bits of caveate. > > One, she does have at least one piece of music fully written and in demo > form. It's a piece she's very fond of, but admits to not having the drive to > 'finish' it off by putting lyrics to it, or recording it in studio. There > were a few mentions on the list she was considering contributing it to other > projects (film?). > > Then there is commentary by her in interviews since retiring, and info from > others that she still sits out in nature, twiddling the neck of her guitar > into a tuning, and playing. -The muse hasn't entirely left her. It's the > 'recording artist' bit that has. > > Here's where my memory gets bad: there were a few posts that mentioned she > HAS completed 2 pieces of music. (the twiddling and playing out on the rocks > thing.) The mentions came up on list and scarcely drew commentary. Which was > a surprise for me. Maybe someone has a better recollection??? Save me from > my disconnect from reality. > > I don't expect these pieces of music to be put to word, recorded in studio, > then released as part of a new CD. But there is the posibility her guitar > tracks could find their way onto record, ala Tiger Bones. > > I would buy that in a heartbeat. > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 and on myspace at http://www.myspace.com/jamiezoob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:08:16 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, straightening hair, then Nicolette Larson Catherine wrote: The only difference is, Sarah is either putting on makeup or straightening her hair. **** Ha! It's the age! I remember, in high school, straightening my hair, and spraying Sun-In in it so it would be blonde and straight and shiny like Joni's! ("Gimme a head with hair, long beautiful hair, shining, gleaming, streaming, flaxen, waxen...") I have very curly brown hair, so it was an impossible dream, but I kept trying. Maybe Sarah has tried the following methods. I would either use some straightener (like hair-dye, very chemically and yucky -- not recommended), OR wrap my sopping wet hair around my head with one big curler on the top and sit under the hair-dryer for an hour. But then if it rained, it was all for naught and I would have to braid it or top it off w/ a bandana. (Remember those blue ones?) Then there is the old iron, but the contortioning is difficult (even at that young age) and you need a best friend to help you, one you trust completely to not burn you. Then in college (mid-seventies) I wore braids (one, or sometimes two) or just went with the flow...kind of like Nicolette Larson, even though that was a little before her time. Most of the guys had ponytails. Ah, what fun days! I just googled to see a picture of Nicolette, and to be sure I spelled her name correctly. What a sad story, to die so young, leaving an 8 year-daughter. I also stumbled upon this tribute album....those concerts must have been something else! February 1998....did anyone here go to one? 1. Lotta Love -- Ensemble 2. Part of the Plan -- Dan Fogelberg 3. Rocky Mountain Way -- Joe Walsh 4. Cold, Cold, Cold -- Little Feat & Bonnie Raitt 5. Love Has No Pride -- Bonnie Raitt 6. Wonderful Life -- MIchael Ruff 7. Up On the Roof -- Carole King 8. For A Dancer -- Jackson Browne 9. Running on Empty -- Jackson Browne 10. Even Cowgirls Get the Blues -- Emmylou Harris 11. Blue Bayou -- Linda Ronstadt 12. In My Life -- Crosby, Stills & Nash 13. Southern Cross -- Crosby, Stills & Nash 14. Margaritaville -- Jimmy Buffet 15. You've Got A Friend -- Ensemble http://www.nicolettelarson.com/index2.html Love, Patti P., drifting from topic to topic ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:29:03 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, The Dark Side on PBS tonight "FRONTLINE INVESTIGATES VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY'S ROLE AS CHIEF ARCHITECT OF THE WAR ON TERROR AND HIS BATTLE WITH THE DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE FOR CONTROL OF THE "DARK SIDE" FRONTLINE presents THE DARK SIDE Tuesday, June 20, 2006, 9 to 10:30 P.M. ET on PBS http://www.pbs.org/frontline/darkside/ Amid daily revelations about prewar intelligence and a growing scandal surrounding the indictment of the vice president's chief of staff and presidential adviser, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, FRONTLINE goes behind the headlines to investigate the internal war that was waged between the intelligence community and Richard Bruce Cheney, the most powerful vice president in the nation's history. "A lot of what needs to be done here will have to be done quietly, without any discussion, using sources and methods that are available to our intelligence agencies," Cheney told Americans just after 9/11. He warned the public that the government would have to operate on the "dark side." In The Dark Side, airing June 20, 2006, at 9 P.M. on PBS (check local listings), FRONTLINE tells the story of the vice president's role as the chief architect of the war on terror and his battle with Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet for control of the "dark side." Drawing on more than 40 interviews and thousands of documents, the film provides a step-by-step examination of what happened inside the councils of war." More at http://www.pbs.org/frontline/darkside/ Check your local listings if you're interested, and I guess be prepared for some nightmares. I don't like horror movies, especially when they are real, but maybe the truth will (begin to) set us free? Love, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:16:09 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: njc, straightening hair, then Nicolette Larson - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Parlette" > I just googled to see a picture of Nicolette, and to be sure I spelled her > name correctly. What a sad story, to die so young, leaving an 8 > year-daughter. I also stumbled upon this tribute album....those concerts > must have been something else! February 1998....did anyone here go to > one? > > 1. Lotta Love -- Ensemble > 2. Part of the Plan -- Dan Fogelberg > 3. Rocky Mountain Way -- Joe Walsh > 4. Cold, Cold, Cold -- Little Feat & Bonnie Raitt > 5. Love Has No Pride -- Bonnie Raitt > 6. Wonderful Life -- MIchael Ruff > 7. Up On the Roof -- Carole King > 8. For A Dancer -- Jackson Browne > 9. Running on Empty -- Jackson Browne > 10. Even Cowgirls Get the Blues -- Emmylou Harris > 11. Blue Bayou -- Linda Ronstadt > 12. In My Life -- Crosby, Stills & Nash > 13. Southern Cross -- Crosby, Stills & Nash > 14. Margaritaville -- Jimmy Buffet > 15. You've Got A Friend -- Ensemble > > http://www.nicolettelarson.com/index2.html What a great line-up! I had never heard of this, but found out it came out last Valentine's Day, so it's quite available. "I'm gonna get me one" as Wilbert Harrison once sang.... Back in Harlem, Cab Calloway et al used to get a "conk" to straighten their hair, a harrowing chemical process involving lye, I think. RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:15:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: njc, straightening hair, then Nicolette Larson is that the guy that orig did that song "Work Together" (together we will stand every boy girl woman and man):? or an udder? Em - --- Randy Remote wrote: > as Wilbert Harrison once sang.... > Back in Harlem, Cab Calloway et al used to get a "conk" to > straighten their hair, a harrowing chemical process involving > lye, I think. > RR Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:01:26 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: njc, straightening hair, then Nicolette Larson Yep. Johnny, tell her what she's won! His other big hit was "Kansas City". - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Em" To: "Randy Remote" ; "Patti Parlette" ; Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:15 PM Subject: Re: njc, straightening hair, then Nicolette Larson > is that the guy that orig did that song "Work Together" (together we > will stand every boy girl woman and man):? > or an udder? > Em > > --- Randy Remote wrote: > >> as Wilbert Harrison once sang.... >> Back in Harlem, Cab Calloway et al used to get a "conk" to >> straighten their hair, a harrowing chemical process involving >> lye, I think. >> RR > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:03:57 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Summer albums, njc Dunno why but today I played Paul McCartney's "RAM", Stan Getz' "GETZ/GILBERTO", and Dan Fogelberg's "SOUVENIERS". I remembered that SOUVENIERS was produced by Joe Walsh. (But I was surprised to find that I remembered it CORRECTLY.) What I didn't remember was that there were so many other familiar names on that album: Henry Diltz shot the cover. Joe Lala, Russ Kunkel, and Graham Nash. Irv Azoff is credited with "direction". The copyright says 1974 so it surprised me that Walsh (who didn't join the Eagles for a while yet) already knew Randy Meisner, Don Henley, and Glenn Frey well enough to get them on backing vocals. I'm sure there are lots of experts on SoCal 70s rock. When did Walsh start playing on Eagles' records? Did he join "officially" when he put that smokin' solo on the end of "Hotel California" or was it earlier? Anyway, all of the talent wasn't wasted because Fogelberg had some great songs. Remember these lines which his wife wrote? >Here is the key to a house far away >where I used to live as a child. >They tore down the building >when I moved away >and left the key >unreconciled. Those always stick and that piano figure during the long fade is just great. Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:21:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Michael Owns Some Joni Songs?... I don't like the fact that THIS DUDE owns some of Joni's music AT ALL... "During the trial, it was revealed that the singer had borrowed a huge sum against his assets, including his California estate, Neverland Ranch, and his stake in the famed ATV/Sony music catalogue, believed to be one of the most valuable in the world. It features more than 200 songs by the Beatles, as well as songs by the likes of Bob Dylan, Neil Diamond, Joni Mitchell and Stevie Nicks." That's from: http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2006/06/20/jackson-trial-finances.html Anyone knows what songs he owns? Nuri Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:00:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Video Clips For Joni Covers Bob (and everyone who has a clue:) I was wondering if artists that covered Joni's songs made videos for them...? Would be great to find out. Thanks, Nuri - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups gets better. Check out the new email design. Plus theres much more to come. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #232 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------