From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #230 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, June 19 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 230 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni Mitchell in somewhat pointless Toronto Star article ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Judee Sill video and Joni "connection" ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: RE : Retro Covers - Volume 4 "The Power of Cheese" [Bob Muller ] Father's Day for the forlorn NJC ["Cassy" ] Re: Father's Day for the forlorn NJC [Bob Muller ] njc, but papa he blesses me ["Patti Parlette" ] Cristina-Henning-Garrett-Sherelle-Lucy-Sam-Liz-MG-Claudia-Randa ll-Sonia-Jul ius-La Copa Mundial-Happy Fathers Day-(NJC) [] Gay Men In Joni's Lyrics now (njc) [Michael Paz ] Re: Most covered songwriters [Michael Paz ] Re: NJC RE: The "Joni Standard" now Ronstadt [] Joni Mitchell in somewhat pointless Toronto Star article -- njc [] No NJC/Judee Sill ["MIKE HICKS" ] Re: ELLIS - njc [Michael Paz ] Karla/Kenny/Linda/Seldom Scene/Judee/NJC ["MIKE HICKS" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 01:26:10 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Joni Mitchell in somewhat pointless Toronto Star article Maybe pointless... but brilliant! >Joni Mitchell, 62: She can be nuttier than a squirrel's breakfast, and claims to have given up music altogether, but at her best the Canuck artiste is McCartney's superior as a songwriter and singer. They could make an interesting couple both on and off the stage, especially since she's in need of a good bass player.< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 01:44:02 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Judee Sill video and Joni "connection" I wonder how they did their research... they missed a lot of great music from that time right here in socal... maybe they'll do a part 2... ? >A nice article came out in the LA Times yesterday about it. An excerpt: For Tomlinson and many others, those dreams started with Joni Mitchell. Like a mushroom that generates rings overnight, Mitchellbs breakout success in 1970 with her third album, Ladies of the Canyon, helped to inspire a widespread underground of female singer-songwriters. While some struck out for coffee shops and open-mike nights, others played for their high school friends or congregations. These girls emerged as flower children, their flowing tresses hanging over their acoustic guitars as they sang poems previously hidden in journals. Not everyone could be signed to Reprise or Elektra, though, so with the help of family, school faculty or a church bake sale, the music of these young women was recorded, privately pressed up, sold to friends and kindly parishioners, then forgotten as dreams faded against the harsh reality of the record biz or the call of family. The whole shootin' match: http://www.laweekly.com/general/features/the-circle-game/13749/ Bob< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 05:11:50 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: [On Father's Day] "Bein' a Dad" Bein' a Dad by Loudon Wainwright Bein' a dad isn't so bad Except that you gotta feed 'em You gotta shoe 'em and clothe 'em And try not to loathe 'em Bug 'em and hug 'em and heed 'em Bein' a dad can sure make you mad Man it even can drive you crazy It's as hard as it looks You gotta read them dumb books And you end up despising Walt Disney Bein' a dad starts to get radical When they turn into teenagers You gotta tighten the screws Enforce the curfews Confiscate weapons and pagers But a daughter and son Can be sort of fun Just as long as they don't defy you They'll treat you like a king They'll believe anything They're easy to frighten and lie to Bein' a dad (bein' a dad) Bein' a dad (bein' a dad) Bein' a dad can make you feel glad When you get paperweights and aftershave lotions Yeah it feels pretty great when they graduate That's when you're choked with emotions But bein' a dad takes more than a tad of Good luck and divine intervention You need air-tight alibis Fool proof disguises Desperation's the father of invention So sometimes you take off For a few rounds of golf And you stay away for half of their lifetimes The result of it all is You're captured and hauled up Before a tribunal for dad crimes Bein' a dad (bein' a dad) Bein' a dad (bein' a dad) Bein' a dad can make you feel sad Like you're the insignificant other Yeah right from the start They break your heart In the end every kid wants his mother Bein' a dad (bein' a dad) * * * * * * * * * * * * andmoreagain, - ------------------ simon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 05:56:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Happy Father's Day, (NJC) It's very hard to fathom that it's been six years since this post first appeared on the list. - --- MGVal@aol.com wrote: > From: MGVal@aol.com > Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:00:57 EDT > Subject: Happy Father's Day, (NJC) > To: joni@smoe.org > > Besides the friendship and Joni connection, one thing that this list has > exposed me to are some great fathers. I had a very hard time with my father > growing up and my ex-husband has not seen his children for nearly 4 years. > From this, my "father" background is awfully lopsided. > > It has been such a thrill to meet and get to know some of the fathers on the > list. Whether they know it or not, they have enriched my life and gladdened > my heart to know that there ARE real, devoted and caring dads out there. > > Thanks to all of you - you know who you are. > > much love, > > MG Happy Father's Day Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 06:38:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: RE : Retro Covers - Volume 4 "The Power of Cheese" She did quite well in other songs in the album > We share the same perception, Joseph - that was why I slid this one into Volume 4, well, that and the fact that it was looking like it was going to be 99% BSN's. Bob NP: Joni, "ACOY" (BSN version) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Father's Day I suppose it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be NJC; after all Joni did write: "Mama thinks she spoilt me Papa knows somehow he set me free Mama thinks she spoilt me rotten She blames herself But papa he blesses me It's a rough road to travel" It's a Hallmark holiday, and doesn't get as much attention as Mother's Day. Whatever. I love being a Dad. My Father's Day began in pretty cool fashion - when the clock struck midnight last night, my son & I were on the road, driving home from having seen Sonic Youth at the Orange Peel in Asheville. I also was "Dad" to three other kids at the show (from Johnson City, TN)who couldn't get in because they were not yet 18 and they came in with me as a chaperone, so for one shining night I had FOUR kids! I will forever be grateful to the guy that I got to call Dad...a man who worked extremely hard to provide for us and loved his family above everything else. Makes it pretty easy to follow a model like the one I witnessed. Fact of the Day: More collect calls are made on Father's Day than on any other day of the year. Quote of the Day: "By the time a man realizes that maybe his father was right, he usually has a son who thinks he's wrong." Charles Wadsworth Happy Day to all the JMDL Fathers out there, and particularly to Bill Anderson who helped nurture and encourage one of the finest artists of our time. Let's face it, if not for him, this community wouldn't exist. Bob NP: Lucinda Williams, "Atonement" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:01:32 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Father's Day for the forlorn NJC Father's Day! To those who are father's I wish you a day filled with the love of your families and no burns while you tend the grill. (Why is it that the fathers tend to grill on their special day?) To those who have fathers they can reach out and touch in some way... don't forget to phone and thank the man who helped raise you. Tell him how much you love him and appreciate the sacrifices he made to give you a "better" life. The hard part is to those who have lost their fathers. Some will be experiencing their first father's day without the man they have loved all their lives. I feel a special bond with those JMDLers. I lost my own father a few years ago and though I miss him every day, there are some days I miss him more than others; today being one of those days. I'd like to share a little story if you'll bear with me. For father's day one year, my siblings and I pitched our money together to buy daddy an electric garage door opener, he was fastidious with his Lincoln Town Car and he really wanted one so we decided that though we didn't usually spend that kind of money on a gift he deserved, for once, to get something he really wanted. We presented him with his gift and he was delighted. He decided that he would have someone come and install it for him rather than screw it up so that week, along came the installers. Oops... the garage door he had was too old-fashioned to work with electric openers so he elected to spring for a new door to go along with the opener. Took a couple of days to get the door installed with opener and he was delighted to pull his car into the garage and click the button. Down came the door... only to land on the bumper of his car and go right back up again! He got back into his car and nosed it right up against the back wall of the garage and came out to close the door again. Oops... his car was too long to allow the garage door to close, it came down on the bumper again and went right back up. Dad paced the driveway a few times muttering something we couldn't quite get but something to do with "bloody presents...". He ended up having to knock the back of the garage out and extend it several feet to accommodate his Lincoln AND be able to close the door too. He said "That's the single most bloody expensive gift anyone ever gave me... thanks a lot!" I just wanted to share a smile with those who have only their memories this Father's Day. It's one I'll never forget. Well that and driving from Detroit to Dallas with him and stopping in Nashville to visit with his guitar playing friend Bucky Barrett (at different time in both Roy Orbison and Dottie West's bands) and getting lost because dad "knew a shortcut". Subject: Re: Father's Day for the forlorn NJC <"That's the single most bloody expensive gift anyone ever gave me... thanks a lot!"> Cassy - that's a great story. My Dad's still going strong and I'm going to head over and see him shortly. My heart goes out to all of you who have lost your Fathers...I know today is a melancholy one, a mixture of smiles & tears. Bob NP: Ryan Adams, "In My Time Of Need" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:28:42 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, but papa he blesses me "There's something like a line of gold thread running through a man's words when he talks to his daughter, and gradually over the years it gets to be long enough for you to pick up in your hands and weave into a cloth that feels like love itself." - -- John Gregory Brown Sharing my cloth with anyone who needs conversation and comfort and consultation today, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:38:44 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Cristina-Henning-Garrett-Sherelle-Lucy-Sam-Liz-MG-Claudia-Randa ll-Sonia-Jul ius-La Copa Mundial-Happy Fathers Day-(NJC) Hello Listas! I have been away a long time and in an effort to catch up with things and NOT bombard the list with a ton of emails I will tackle a few of them here. I was in Orange Beach, Florida for a week of R&R that I really needed badly. It was a great trip and even managed to play a lot of guitar, but mostly fishing and just hanging. WOW! Congrats to Cristina and Henning on another brilliant effort. I REALLY like the unknown songs the best and look forward to getting this CD when it gets off of backorder. You go guys! Do I hear summer tour?? Congrats to my buddy Garrett and best of luck for the future. I hope you enjoy it very much and DON'T work too hard! Sherelle what can I say girl. You blow my mind with your greatness. I cannot wait to hear this broadcast. I hope this is part of a grand momentum of success for you and I agree with Muller about the whole Nambia thing. Remember you have your home here in New Orleans. I wish you so much more am honored to count you as my friend. Lucy my heart goes out to you and Sam and Liz. As you know I have had a tough year again this year losing my daddy and my brother late last year as well as several friends recently including Scott Thomas (guitar player with Marva Wright and Amanda Shaw. I will send you a chapter (called On Learning to Die by Ram Daas) that I received from a dear friend before I lost my dad. It has put death in a different light for me (key word being light) as I no longer think of it in a totally dark way. Please share it with Sam and Liz if you feel it is appropriate for them and I wish you all a speedy healing process. MG you are not forgotten here or loved any less because you are gone. I wish we could still have you but I know we will all be together again somewhere be it JMDL heaven or God forbid JMDL hell (that's where we would have to listen to Helen Reddy Joni covers forever). Claudia and Randall I have just finished watching the broadcast from the Kennedy Center and I am so proud fo you both. How I wish I could been front and center with Sherelle, Ashara and the rest of the minifesters in attendance. The songs are great and they come alive live together and I loved that you had Laura on percussion. How cool is that, the JMDL syncronicity, that I also played with Sonia from Disappear Fear recently in Austin at the Folk Alliance. I hope your touring leads you this way. I would love to host a house concert here for you guys or help you in any way I can. Julius I wish you peace and hope you heal quickly. I know what it means to miss the jmdl. Been there and done that. You can never escape from the JMDL though cause you are joined here with the spirit, which is more powerful than any hurt or misunderstanding. Hopefully you will always have more to learn and feel. We have really been enjoying the World Cup here. We are big fans of Brazil and Argentina in this burg, but it is all good. France and Korea on right now. Go France!! Finally, Happy Fathers Day to all of you JMDL daddies. My family has catered to me all day and we are headed out for sushi and a movie latter. Yum! May you all have a peaceful and wonderful day with your families. Love Paz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:52:51 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Gay Men In Joni's Lyrics now (njc) >If a man is dressed as a woman, does that >necessarily make him a transvestite?> >And is there a significant difference between a >transvestite, a drag queen & a cross-dresser? >I'm patiently waiting for Paz to step in here and >clear all of this up for us. >Bob Bob just cause I wore one of Jimmy's halter tops one time, does this make me a drag queen? BTW I have crossed dressed a couple of times and I have never been felt up by girls so many times in my life. And as far as the transvestite thing goes, I still have all my original equipment and it all works just fine thank you. >Doesn't Paz just do shoes? What would that make him? A >shoe queen? >Catherine >Toronto I HATE SHOES! The time I dressed as a flapper girl I had to wear Chuck Taylor's cause I couldn't find any heels to fit my fat feet. NO not a shoe queen! >Hi Catherine, > Paz is a very attractive lesbian who likes to go barefoot. He told me >he's a lesbian; the rest is my appraisal from when I saw him at the Jonifest >in 2004. I'll never forget that walk and those feet. >Love, >Laura Thanks Laura I appreciate it very much. The truth is I am very in touch with my feminine side and she truly is just as queer as she can be! If you think I walk funny you should see me run. Paz (wishing the Queen of England a very Happy Birthday!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:54:02 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Most covered songwriters I am sure Yesterday has to be WAY up there. I think allmusic.com is a much better resource for this kind of information. Best Paz > MR. KNOW-IT-ALL needs to go back to school. > For many, many years it's been widely reported that the > most covered song of all time is "Yesterday"; according to > Wikipedia there are over 3,000 versions, and over 2,500 > covers of Gershwin's "Summertime". Don't forget "Louie > Louie", "All Along The Watchtower", "Blowin' In The > Wind"......."Eleanor Rigby"? Right. According > to this site, BSN has been covered 13 whole times, > causing one to wonder why they bother having a website > at all, since it is so wildly inaccurate. > http://secondhandsongs.com/song/2558.html > RR > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patti Parlette" >> Dear Joniamigos: >> >> Who am I, you may ask, a mere lyric-spouting mortal, to write about >> covers? I just couldn't resist sharing something I just read >> with you all, at the risk of upsetting our esteemed Covers King. For what >> it's worth: >> >> You Can Sure Sing That Again >> June 15, 2006 >> >> DEAR MR. KNOW-IT-ALL: Who are the most covered songwriters and performers? >> >> A: John Lennon, Paul McCartney and Bob Dylan are the top three covered >> songwriters and performers. The Beatles' "Eleanor Rigby" is the most >> remade song, with 117 renditions counted. >> >> How do we know? The website secondhandsongs.com, which proves that in the >> music world, everything old is new again ... and again ... and again. >> >> The Belgium-based site, launched in 2003 by brothers Bastien and Matthieu >> De Zutter and friend Denis Monsieur, is dedicated to collecting cover >> songs from around the world and building the largest database dedicated to >> these "recycled songs." >> >> There are nearly 40,000 songs and 19,000 artists listed on the site, >> crisscrossing the American pop spectrum - from Frank Sinatra covering >> Billy Joel's "Just the Way You Are" to Lindsay Lohan's take on Cheap >> Trick's "I Want You To Want Me." >> >> But what sets secondhandsongs.com apart as a cover-song site is the >> diversity of the music. The site's content is largely dependent on the >> preferences of the five editors and the suggestions of >> secondhandsong.com's nearly 5,000 daily visitors. >> >> - Combined Wire Services >> >> >> A quick Joni search turns up a woeful list that will make our Covers King >> Crimson! Or deep purple...LOL! >> >> http://secondhandsongs.com/artist/19.html >> >> But no worries for us aging children. WE know where to get our Joni >> covers, right? Darn right! Muller walks on the Joni moon -- you be >> polite! ; ) >> >> And what? No mention of our sweet (song) bird Sherelle for Eleanor Rigby? >> >> "Query Failed! >> ERROR: column "performer_" does not exist" >> >> Harrumph! I beg to differ! >> >> Love, >> >> Patti P., enjoying a beautiful day off in New England ("Funny day, looking >> for laughter and finding it there, Sunny day......", wishing you all the >> same...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:42:51 -0500 From: Subject: Re: NJC RE: The "Joni Standard" now Ronstadt Hey, folks: long-time lurker coming in from the cold to say that I'm really loving all this talk about Joni and others, as well as the wonderful contributions of new members! On a specific topic, Bob wrote, about Linda Ronstadt: "By the same token, her attempt at covering Elvis Costello was a huge miss. Of the four that I'm familiar with, only "Talking In The Dark" is OK. Just like her versions of Warren Zevon songs, she hits the right notes but misses the irony and cynicism that the originals hit spot on. For her to even try to tackle "Party Girl" and "Alison" sort of proves that she misses the point of the song in the first place." And Catherine responded: "Oh, I do like Linda's version of Zevon's "Poor pitiful me" but I doubt there'd be too many people who could do justice to any of his stuff." Me now: yeah, I've always wondered, since back in the 70's, about Ronstadt's choices to cover Zevon and Costello. About "missing the mark": in a discussion in another group once, someone considered Rondstadt's "oooooo ooooooo" background vocals to "Excitable Boy" (in all fairness, with Jennifer Warnes, too) and wondered, "Did she know what the song was about?" A little harsh on Linda, perhaps, but the question captures the reality that her voice didn't always communicate the mixture of irony, nuance, and edge of which Costello is and Zevon was capable. Still, Ronstadt brought the songs of both to a wider audience. I don't know about Costello, but I think Zevon was always grateful for that. Moreover, I'm pretty sure that were some lean years when those royalties from "PPPM" really helped pay the bills. Finally, about Zevon's voice (and bringing the discussion full circle): I think the comparison with Joni is an apt one, if only if the sense that, in both cases, the voices of others were often technically more proficient and "perfect." However, almost without exception, both Joni's and Zevon's voices were unsurpassed for the particular songs that they themselves wrote, and, even to this day, few other vocalists can do those songs justice. Mary, noting that Zevon did a very spare, but haunting cover of Sill's "Jesus Was a Crossmaker" on his 1995 _Mutineer_ album. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:15:28 -0700 From: Subject: Joni Mitchell in somewhat pointless Toronto Star article -- njc < Joni Mitchell, 62: She can be nuttier than a > squirrel's breakfast > HeheheheHAHAHAhehe! But I do think she would be the best of the lot of potential new companions. I've heard Paul is really quite a nice guy and he has written some incredible songs - I think some just get lost in the volume of his output. Only thing is I think he would make her quit tobacco and become a vegan. But they could work it out. Poor Paul - but he's lucky to get out now and enjoy his life again. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:07:18 -0400 From: "MIKE HICKS" Subject: [none] Thanks to Paul and others on the info and video on Judee Sill. I thought I knew of many many artists in my lifetime, but I have to admit I missed this one. What a song The Kiss. Just by this one video it is obvious she had immeasurable talent. Thanks for introducing me to another "unknown" artist. Mike NP: Where Do You Think You're Going - Dire Straits ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:08:33 -0400 From: "MIKE HICKS" Subject: No NJC/Judee Sill Sorry about the NJC on the Judee Sill thing. Mike H. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:13:04 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: ELLIS - njc Thanks for sending this Sue. I really enjoyed her stuff. Hope all is well with you and look forward to seeing you sometime in the near future. Love Paz > Went to a house concert in Chicago last night to see ELLIS. If you haven't > heard her stuff check it out here: http://www.ellis-music.com/music/ > > You can get a free download of her entire song Grand Exit (Annette's Song) > about her friend who died in April of cancer. > > ELLIS is this mix of whimsy and soul, wrapped up in a package of irony and > acoustic. She reminds me in a way of Jonatha, but w/ only guitar as backdrop. > It was a really fun night of music and laughter. ELLIS is a joy to watch as > every chord is played with passion. > > Please go and check out her site and music. It is worth the listen. > > Suze ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:40:51 -0400 From: "MIKE HICKS" Subject: Karla/Kenny/Linda/Seldom Scene/Judee/NJC Kate, I echo your comments on Karla Bonoff. Saw her last spring with Kenny Edwards and they were awesome! Sung most of her/Linda's known hits. I loved her voice. Sounds as good as ever. I got to speak with them after the show and have pictures made with Karla. Very personable. An incredible talent. I think of Judee Sill in the same vein as Karla. Maybe even a little deeper intent on lyrics if I get a chance to listen more on J. Sill. Saw Linda in '75. She left the stage after her current hit Heat Wave because of some unruly asshole in the audience. A little bitchy as I recall. Could have handled that differently but oh well. I always liked her background vocals, one in particular with the blugrass group Seldom Scene. The song is California Earthquake. A riviting song about the big one way back. Check this one out. Not necessary to like bluegrass to appreciate this one. Mike NP: Cursive - The Recluse ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:12:07 -0500 From: John Calimee Subject: RE: Joni. Writting. "Question: I wonder if Joni Still writes songs in her head for the vocal range she had when she was younger, If she still is, what a shame that these songs dont see the light of day. I mean maybee Im thinking out loud and daydreaming but I would listen to another singer singing these songs, If they exist." Hi, And here I thought everyone was familiar with Joni's writing methods. If you haven't read the wonderful article circa Don Juan's Wreckless Daughter, you simply must. I believe it was included in the book, Star Art, although I read it first in a college magazine. I can't recall the title, but the article was originally published with the most gorgeous pictures of her squirrling about in the desert, south west. It references Mingus as she'd just finished the words to Dry Cleaner from De Moines. In any case it was the first written reference I'd seen regarding her creative process. Well worth a search on the JM.com. Anyway, she doesn't write music, she sings it. It's unlikely she would write for any other voicing than the voicing she presently has. She hums a melody in counterpoint to whatever music she's written. Then, as the DJRD/Mingus article describes, she uses this melody as the unseen base. When words are written, notes are changed up or down to give the words a natural feel. - -Although it's interesting the unworded melody for Passion Play is exactly the melody for the written text. Maybe she 'got over' adjusting melodies with Mingus? Eventually, someone else transcribes the melody and music to notation form. She's pretty much ignorant of music writing. This process fascinates me because for years I tried writing music in the only way I knew how: by humming it into a tape recorder. Eventually I gave up because -I believed- NO ONE of importance wrote music that way. Little did I know. However wonderful her musical gift has been, I do wonder what the world might have gotten if Joni were skilled at notation. The orchestra for Paprika Plains and Travelogue are wonderful. But what would they be if they were 100% Joni?!?! Guess we'll never know. j. - --Isn't it true she has 3 pieces of original music completed since retirement? I know there's one for certain. -And still no word of the film shot during the production of Travelogue. I declare we will see something new and cool from Joni at some point in the future. Our Joni shopping is not done! ps. Of course, I'm wrong regarding the commentary above. She could 'write' a voicing quite easily by playing it on guitar. Or hearing it in her head. But I guess what I'm really trying to say is, that's unlikely. Since she implies her melodies to date have come from her own voicing. I can't imagine she'd 'compose' any other way, except perhaps in the studio... where need or inventiveness might spark her to add a color or emotion. -But not from word go. I think I need to shut up now... ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #230 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------