From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #212 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, June 3 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 212 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Dad, where do barrels of oil come from? njc [] Full Moon Jonifest 2007 NJC!!! [Lucy Hone ] RE: "This Is Us", njc ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: "This Is Us", njc ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: "This Is Us", njc ["Sherelle Smith" ] Betty takes on Jazz - NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Orange County (NJC) [tinkersown@comcast.net] Re: Orange County (NJC) [Em ] Re: Dad, where do barrels of oil come from? njc ["Lori Fye" ] RE: Two Days (Doris Day and Anita O'Day) NJC [Joseph Palis ] Re: Joni Covers, Volume 77...it's hard out here for a Covers pimp! [FMYFL] RE: Two Days (Doris Day and Anita O'Day) NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Dad, where do barrels of oil come from? njc ["gene" ] Re: NJC - National Review's Top 50 Conservative Rock Songs [Em ] Re: NJC - National Review's Top 50 Conservative Rock Songs ["Randy Remote] imogen heap/njc ["MIKE HICKS" ] Re: Dad, where do barrels of oil come from? njc [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 01:26:07 -0700 From: Subject: Dad, where do barrels of oil come from? njc Lama posted in part: Total: 554,977 in March 06, by my worksheet. *3: By my Excel spreadsheet, the top 4 suppliers (US, Canada, Mexico, & Venezuela) provide 59% of our consumption. Yup. Probably 4 years ago another jmdler told me we only get 10% of our oil in the U.S. from the mid-east. The statistics you post prove that out. If, and it is a long, hard protracted process, people would facilitiate the drilling of more oil in the U.S. we would be that much less dependant on foreign sources. There is talk now of letting it happen if the energy companies allot so much of their resources to the development of alternative energy sources. We should get on the ball - it's been way too long just keeping things at status quo or stalemate. I was very amazed, though, at the amount of oil we get from countries/islands in the Caribbean. Of course, they have huge resources there but it is not something the media normally mentions. Meanwhile, Canada is making a nice profit from us ;-) Heh! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 09:38:48 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Full Moon Jonifest 2007 NJC!!! Well I am not able to totally confirm that I will be going but I am coming to the unavoidable conclusion that life is too damned short not to. A spring Full Moon would be wonderful and I think the UK Swimming Team could crack the ice on the pool... I can't confirm whether Frank Liz and Sam would come, because there is a lot going on for them generally. Frank and Sam will be University Students (Frank has gone all retro at the age of 45 and is doing a BSc in Mechanical Engineering) and Sam will be at Sussex studying French. Liz will be about to start her exams for the final year at senior school (before going on to Further Education)... Me, I will be uncertain as to my job situation as I am on a contract and it ends in March!!!... However I do have some frilly funds at the moment and I can earmark them.....Also my stepson is Virgin Cabin Crew and I should be able to get mates rates.....so that helps.. we shall just have to wait. I would like to see everyone again and specially see Murph and Muller jello wrestling.... Love you all Queen Lulu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:02:01 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: "This Is Us", njc Hell, they also said that Natalie received death threats as well. She said that what hurt her the most was when she saw a mother holding her two year child, encouraging the child to say something hateful about Natalie. She said it tore her up to see a child being taught to hate. The group as a whole said it's one thing to not like a person or their music, that's your right, but what bothered them is people seriously trying to destroy their careers. Sherelle >From: "Hell" > >Sherelle wrote: > > > Thanks so much for sharing this Hell! I'll tell my husband. This > > will be the next CD we purchase. Also, I watched the Dixie Chicks > > on CNN's "Larry King Live" where they discussed the CD and the > > fact that the "Not Going to Make Nice" (forgive if not the exact > > title) is at the top of the charts here in the U.S. despite > > limited radio airplay. Cool!!!! > >For those that don't know, this song (Not Ready To Make Nice) was written >by >the group in direct response to the flak the group received when Natalie >Maines told their audience in London they were ashamed that George Bush was >a fellow-Texan. They got a huge response to this comment, with many radio >stations and country music fans boycotting their music. The fact that >their >new album is now No. 1 on the country music and regular Billboard charts is >a great "in-your-face" comeback, IMHO, considering some radio stations must >"still" be boycotting them! > >You can read more here: > >http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/entertainment/music/14649003.htm > >I also read that their first warm-up show for their new tour to promote >this >album will be at the same Shepherd's Bush theatre where that comment was >made - coincidence? I don't think so! > > >Hell >___________________________________ >"To have great poets, there must be >great audiences too." - Walt Whitman > >Hell's Pages - a WHOLE NEW EXPERIENCE! >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:03:50 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: "This Is Us", njc Oops! I didn't see your comments Kate! At least we're on the same page!!! (Smile) Sherelle >From: "Kate Bennett" > >And death threats! Funny thing is I still read comments from people who >dispise them for this comment & think their career came to an end >afternwards... it was in fact, quite the oppostite & this is just more >icing >on the cake... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:05:19 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: "This Is Us", njc Kate, I think the world came to their aid for support. What was meant for evil has catapulted them to International Stardom. That's how it works, doesn't it! Sherelle >From: "Kate Bennett" > >I'm loving the Dixie Chicks new one also! They've gone in deep for this one >& the production is awesome imo... you may still be able to listen >online... >they have the whole album there... in spite of that & country radio >ignoring >them, they reached #1 this week... go Chicks! (do they call their fan >peeps? >Lol) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 08:26:50 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Betty takes on Jazz - NJC Many of you know that I am a huge Betty Buckley fan, and that she has done some outstanding Joni covers. She has just tackled jazz in NYC and a very interesting review from the NYT: June 1, 2006 Music Review Betty Buckley, Aided by Kenny Werner, Takes the Jazz Challenge By STEPHEN HOLDEN The longtime partnership of the Broadway diva Betty Buckley and the jazz pianist and arranger Kenny Werner makes as much theoretical sense as a wardrobe of purple and chartreuse. But somehow the tug of war between her theatricality and his jazz impressionism works to both their advantages. When they perform in cabarets, Mr. Werner usually plays an obedient courtier to the queen, supplying minimal jazz filigree and New Age texture. But at the Blue Note, the New York jazz club where they are performing through Sunday (with Mr. Werner's band, Quintessence), the balance has shifted decisively. Carefully decorated cabaret accompaniments have given way to spacious jazz landscapes through which Ms. Buckley, never one to shirk a challenge, romps with the excitement of a repressed tomboy who has exchanged her frilly dress for a riding outfit. Having fled the living room into the great outdoors, she unveils a hard swinging side of her complex musical personality, tearing into Billie Holiday's "Stormy Blues" with a ferocity that adds a notch to her belt of stylistic conquests. The show leads off with an iconoclastic "Surrey With the Fringe on Top," whose tricky stop-start jazz arrangement over shifting rhythmic underpinnings evokes a bumpy ride over rough terrain. What follows is a musical obstacle course that challenges Ms. Buckley to remain in the saddle as she hurtles through the woods and over the hills. At Tuesday's opening night show Ms. Buckley remained not only upright but also confidently in charge. Mr. Werner's elaborate arrangements expanded the songs' fields of vision and enhanced Ms. Buckley's intensely expressive readings. An elongated "Star Dust" sadly sifted through time and memory. "So Many Stars" drifted dreamily through space. Wailing solos by Todd Reynolds (on violin) and Billy Drewes (on reeds) on "Cry Me a River" underscored Ms. Buckley's take on this quintessential crow of vengeful rage, and "No One Is Alone" was transformed from a consoling childlike lullaby into a complicated grown-up assertion of compassion. An encore of John Prine's "Angel From Montgomery," half-spoken and half-sung, burrowed as deeply into its narrator's despairing sensibility as any version I've heard; it cut to the bone. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:56:46 +0000 From: tinkersown@comcast.net Subject: Orange County (NJC) Hello from Orange County! Jerry wrote: >And one of the few words in the English language with which none other rhyme! Though Dave Carter came darn close in "The River Where She Sleeps": "But it looked to me like Agent Orange And when he leaves he slams the door'n'just about that time she calls me up" *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA tinkersown@comcast.net "The Living Tradition Concert Series" www.thelivingtradition.org "Folk Alliance Region - West" www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 08:00:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Orange County (NJC) and Arlo Guthrie nailed it with "doorhinge". Em :) - --- tinkersown@comcast.net wrote: > Hello from Orange County! > > Jerry wrote: > > >And one of the few words in the English language with which none > other rhyme! > > Though Dave Carter came darn close in "The River Where She Sleeps": > > "But it looked to me like Agent Orange > And when he leaves he slams the door'n'just about that time she calls > me up" > > *************************************************** > Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA tinkersown@comcast.net > "The Living Tradition Concert Series" www.thelivingtradition.org > "Folk Alliance Region - West" www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 08:18:59 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Dad, where do barrels of oil come from? njc Kakki wrote: > If, and it is a long, hard protracted process, people would facilitiate the > drilling of more oil in the U.S. we would be that much less dependant on > foreign sources. Or, and it doesn't have to be such a long, hard protracted process, U.S. automakers would get busy with the continuing development of electric and/or renewable energy cars, we wouldn't have to be dependent on ANY oil -- and the planet would likely be much happier for it. But no ... GM had a really good car (the EV-1), which had a 100% sales rate and lots of fans who said it was a wonderful machine, and the company recalled the vehicles and literally trashed them. http://ev1-club.power.net/archive/031219/index.htm WHY?? Lori ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 09:15:38 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: "This Is Us", njc LOL, I posted some of the same stuff that you & Hell wrote before reading what you'd said too! Tha article Hell posted said that they lost a lot of cd sales but I recall reading the opposite back a few years ago... oh well, they are back doing well now... think I'll call my local country station (I listen in occasionally to hear what is happening in that genre- haven't heard a peep from the chicks on this station - the best song I hear was a cover of Ryan Adams Blue (forget the exact title) but otherwise the songs are amazingly shallow & unartistic (for example recently the number one country song was Toby Keith, Lets Get Drunk & Be Somebody- yehaw). >Oops! I didn't see your comments Kate! At least we're on the same page!!! (Smile) Sherelle< ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 18:39:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE: Two Days (Doris Day and Anita O'Day) NJC Hey Kerry -- I looked up amazon myself and realized this must be a reissue of Doris Day's previous album and not a recently recorded one like Anita O'Day's. I was listening to another 'faded' jazz singer this morning and realized that some can still sing and imbue the songs with a maturity and emotional connection starkly missing from the more accomplsihed ones. I am talking about Chris Connor's 2003 release called "Everything I Love". While she can still swing, her younger bouyant voice is clearly gone. Same with Annie Ross's present voice. But man, can they swing. And oh, Doris day's films with Rock Hudson are anything but silly. Not for this guy anyway. Best, Joseph Kerry a icrit : Hi Joseph, Your message about Doris Day got my attention because I'm a big fan (and proud of it! :>) I think she's been overlooked as a great singer because of her sometimes silly movie and TV work. I looked up "The Love Album" on Amazon and it looks like it's a reissue of a 1967 album. She hasn't recorded in ages. It makes me wonder what her voice would sound like today! Take care, Kerry - --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail riinvente le mail ! Dicouvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface rivolutionnaire. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 18:45:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE: Betty takes on Jazz - NJC Hey Jerry -- Thanks for pasting the NYT article here. I read this article myself yesterday in NYT's website and although I always knew Betty sung jazz, maybe less so than her cabaret performances, but jazz, of yes she has done it. Her "Live at Donmar" album ably assisted by Kenny Werner is a good example. With lots of jazzy deconstructions of songs like "Old Friend", "Fire and Rain", etc. But this present Blue Note appearance of BB is certainly a welcome treat. Hope I can see this woman someday in a jazz performance. And singing more Ellington and Arlen. Joseph in humid CH, np: Siegfried Jerusalem as Siegfried Jerry Notaro a icrit : Many of you know that I am a huge Betty Buckley fan, and that she has done some outstanding Joni covers. She has just tackled jazz in NYC and a very interesting review from the NYT: June 1, 2006 Music Review Betty Buckley, Aided by Kenny Werner, Takes the Jazz Challenge By STEPHEN HOLDEN The longtime partnership of the Broadway diva Betty Buckley and the jazz pianist and arranger Kenny Werner makes as much theoretical sense as a wardrobe of purple and chartreuse. But somehow the tug of war between her theatricality and his jazz impressionism works to both their advantages. When they perform in cabarets, Mr. Werner usually plays an obedient courtier to the queen, supplying minimal jazz filigree and New Age texture. But at the Blue Note, the New York jazz club where they are performing through Sunday (with Mr. Werner's band, Quintessence), the balance has shifted decisively. Carefully decorated cabaret accompaniments have given way to spacious jazz landscapes through which Ms. Buckley, never one to shirk a challenge, romps with the excitement of a repressed tomboy who has exchanged her frilly dress for a riding outfit. Having fled the living room into the great outdoors, she unveils a hard swinging side of her complex musical personality, tearing into Billie Holiday's "Stormy Blues" with a ferocity that adds a notch to her belt of stylistic conquests. The show leads off with an iconoclastic "Surrey With the Fringe on Top," whose tricky stop-start jazz arrangement over shifting rhythmic underpinnings evokes a bumpy ride over rough terrain. What follows is a musical obstacle course that challenges Ms. Buckley to remain in the saddle as she hurtles through the woods and over the hills. At Tuesday's opening night show Ms. Buckley remained not only upright but also confidently in charge. Mr. Werner's elaborate arrangements expanded the songs' fields of vision and enhanced Ms. Buckley's intensely expressive readings. An elongated "Star Dust" sadly sifted through time and memory. "So Many Stars" drifted dreamily through space. Wailing solos by Todd Reynolds (on violin) and Billy Drewes (on reeds) on "Cry Me a River" underscored Ms. Buckley's take on this quintessential crow of vengeful rage, and "No One Is Alone" was transformed from a consoling childlike lullaby into a complicated grown-up assertion of compassion. An encore of John Prine's "Angel From Montgomery," half-spoken and half-sung, burrowed as deeply into its narrator's despairing sensibility as any version I've heard; it cut to the bone. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail riinvente le mail ! Dicouvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface rivolutionnaire. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:52:44 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Covers, Volume 77...it's hard out here for a Covers pimp! Bob, thanks for another great Covers CD!!! I was hoping to send my thoughts on the songs before you posted them, but you pretty much summed it all up. Here's a few thoughts from me. 1. Linda Pettersson - All I Want: Linda is a wonderful jazz singer, and she does a great with one of my favorite Joni songs. The instrumentals are fantastic! 3. Sara Gazarek - The Circle Game: Sara has performed with Diane Schurr, Oleta Adams, and some other great singers. Even though The Circle Game is one of my least favorite of Joni's, Sara puts a great spin on this song. 12. The Big Wu - Free Man In Paris YUCK YUCK YUCK!!! This is what the drunk guys who can't sing (like me) sound like at 4:00 a.m. at a Jonifest :~), but according to their website, they like to poke fun at themselves. 13. David Lobban - Both Sides Now: You know I love cheese Bob, and I felt like I was at the roller skating rink too! 15. Divine Brown - Help Me: I thought it was the prostitute who serviced Hugh Grant too, but obviously NOT. This girl is fantastic. It was my favorite cover on the CD. I enjoyed all the rest of the songs, and I thank you once again for all your efforts. You rock Mr. Muller. Jimmy, looking forward to Smurf's annual 3rd of June post. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 14:21:10 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: Two Days (Doris Day and Anita O'Day) NJC One of my family's favorite films when I was a kid was a Doris Day-James Gardner film called "The Thrill Of It All". We loved it and watched it whenever it was on. In our house, we would quote lines from it like people do with films like "Caddyshack" or "Monty Python & The Holy Grail". "Doctor not home!!" "The baby's a genius!" In looking it up on the web, I see that it was directed by Norman Jewison and written by Larry Gelbart & Carl Reiner. No wonder we enjoyed it so much. Doris Day's cover of BSN will be featured on this month's Retro edition, Volume 4. Bob NP: Quicksand, "Hideaway My Song" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Probably 4 years ago another jmdler told me we only get 10% of our > oil in the U.S. from the mid-east. The statistics you post prove that > out. If, and it is a long, hard protracted process, people would > facilitiate the drilling of more oil in the U.S. we would be that much > less dependant on foreign sources. There is talk now of letting it happen > if the energy companies allot so much of their resources to the > development of alternative energy sources. We should get on the ball - > it's been way too long just keeping things at status quo or stalemate. I > was very amazed, though, at the amount of oil we get from > countries/islands in the Caribbean. Of course, they have huge resources > there but it is not something the media normally mentions. Meanwhile, > Canada is making a nice profit from us ;-) Heh! > > Kakki > !DSPAM:144,447ffc279161808812463! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:59:05 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: NJC - National Review's Top 50 Conservative Rock Songs Conservative Top 50 Published: May 25, 2006 Following is National Review's list of its top 50 conservative rock songs, with the magazine's explanations of its choices. 1. "Won't Get Fooled Again," by The Who. The conservative movement is full of disillusioned revolutionaries; this could be their theme song, an oath that swears off naive idealism once and for all. "There's nothing in the streets / Looks any different to me / And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye. . . . Meet the new boss / Same as the old boss." The instantly recognizable synthesizer intro, Pete Townshend's ringing guitar, Keith Moon's pounding drums, and Roger Daltrey's wailing vocals make this one of the most explosive rock anthems ever recorded - the best number by a big band, and a classic for conservatives. 2. "Taxman," by The Beatles. A George Harrison masterpiece with a famous guitar riff (which was actually played by Paul McCartney): "If you drive a car, I'll tax the street / If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat / If you get too cold, I'll tax the heat / If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet." The song closes with a humorous jab at death taxes: "Now my advice for those who die / Declare the pennies on your eyes." 3. "Sympathy for the Devil," by The Rolling Stones. Don't be misled by the title; this song is "The Screwtape Letters" of rock. The devil is a tempter who leans hard on moral relativism - he will try to make you think that "every cop is a criminal / And all the sinners saints." What's more, he is the sinister inspiration for the cruelties of Bolshevism: "I stuck around St. Petersburg / When I saw it was a time for a change / Killed the czar and his ministers / Anastasia screamed in vain." 4. "Sweet Home Alabama," by Lynyrd Skynyrd. A tribute to the region of America that liberals love to loathe, taking a shot at Neil Young's Canadian arrogance along the way: "A Southern man don't need him around anyhow." 5. "Wouldn't It Be Nice," by The Beach Boys. Pro-abstinence and pro-marriage: "Maybe if we think and wish and hope and pray it might come true / Baby then there wouldn't be a single thing we couldn't do / We could be married / And then we'd be happy." 6. "Gloria," by U2. Just because a rock song is about faith doesn't mean that it's conservative. But what about a rock song that's about faith and whose chorus is in Latin? That's beautifully reactionary: "Gloria / In te domine / Gloria / Exultate." 7. "Revolution," by The Beatles. "You say you want a revolution / Well you know / We all want to change the world . . . Don't you know you can count me out?" What's more, Communism isn't even cool: "If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao / You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow." (Someone tell the Che Guevara crowd.) 8. "Bodies," by The Sex Pistols. Violent and vulgar, but also a searing anti-abortion anthem by the quintessential punk band: "It's not an animal / It's an abortion." 9. "Don't Tread on Me," by Metallica. A head-banging tribute to the doctrine of peace through strength, written in response to the first Gulf War: "So be it / Threaten no more / To secure peace is to prepare for war." 10. "20th Century Man," by The Kinks. "You keep all your smart modern writers / Give me William Shakespeare / You keep all your smart modern painters / I'll take Rembrandt, Titian, da Vinci, and Gainsborough. . . . I was born in a welfare state / Ruled by bureaucracy / Controlled by civil servants / And people dressed in grey / Got no privacy got no liberty / 'Cause the 20th-century people / Took it all away from me." 11. "The Trees," by Rush. Before there was Rush Limbaugh, there was Rush, a Canadian band whose lyrics are often libertarian. What happens in a forest when equal rights become equal outcomes? "The trees are all kept equal / By hatchet, axe, and saw." 12. "Neighborhood Bully," by Bob Dylan. A pro-Israel song released in 1983, two years after the bombing of Iraq's nuclear reactor, this ironic number could be a theme song for the Bush Doctrine: "He destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad / The bombs were meant for him / He was supposed to feel bad / He's the neighborhood bully." 13. "My City Was Gone," by The Pretenders. Virtually every conservative knows the bass line, which supplies the theme music for Limbaugh's radio show. But the lyrics also display a Jane Jacobs sensibility against central planning and a conservative's dissatisfaction with rapid change: "I went back to Ohio / But my pretty countryside / Had been paved down the middle / By a government that had no pride." 14. "Right Here, Right Now," by Jesus Jones. The words are vague, but they're also about the fall of Communism and the end of the Cold War: "I was alive and I waited for this. . . . Watching the world wake up from history." 15. "I Fought the Law," by The Crickets. The original law-and-order classic, made famous in 1965 by The Bobby Fuller Four and covered by just about everyone since then. 16. "Get Over It," by The Eagles. Against the culture of grievance: "The big, bad world doesn't owe you a thing." There's also this nice line: "I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass." 17. "Stay Together for the Kids," by Blink 182. A eulogy for family values by an alt-rock band whose members were raised in a generation without enough of them: "So here's your holiday / Hope you enjoy it this time / You gave it all away. . . . It's not right." 18. "Cult of Personality," by Living Colour. A hard-rocking critique of state power, whacking Mussolini, Stalin, and even JFK: "I exploit you, still you love me / I tell you one and one makes three / I'm the cult of personality." 19. "Kicks," by Paul Revere and the Raiders. An anti-drug song that is also anti-utopian: "Well, you think you're gonna find yourself a little piece of paradise / But it ain't happened yet, so girl you better think twice." 20. "Rock the Casbah," by The Clash. After 9/11, American radio stations were urged not to play this 1982 song, one of the biggest hits by a seminal punk band, because it was seen as too provocative. Meanwhile, British Forces Broadcasting Service (the radio station for British troops serving in Iraq) has said that this is one of its most requested tunes. 21. "Heroes," by David Bowie. A Cold War love song about a man and a woman divided by the Berlin Wall. No moral equivalence here: "I can remember / Standing / By the wall / And the guns / Shot above our heads / And we kissed / As though nothing could fall / And the shame / Was on the other side / Oh we can beat them / For ever and ever." 22. "Red Barchetta," by Rush. In a time of "the Motor Law," presumably legislated by green extremists, the singer describes family reunion and the thrill of driving a fast car - an act that is his "weekly crime." 23. "Brick," by Ben Folds Five. Written from the perspective of a man who takes his young girlfriend to an abortion clinic, this song describes the emotional scars of "reproductive freedom": "Now she's feeling more alone / Than she ever has before. . . . As weeks went by / It showed that she was not fine." 24. "Der Kommissar," by After the Fire. On the misery of East German life: "Don't turn around, uh-oh / Der Kommissar's in town, uh-oh / He's got the power / And you're so weak / And your frustration / Will not let you speak." Also a hit song for Falco, who wrote it. 25. "The Battle of Evermore," by Led Zeppelin. The lyrics are straight out of Robert Plant's Middle Earth period - there are lines about "ring wraiths" and "magic runes" - but for a song released in 1971, it's hard to miss the Cold War metaphor: "The tyrant's face is red." 26. "Capitalism," by Oingo Boingo. "There's nothing wrong with Capitalism / There's nothing wrong with free enterprise. . . . You're just a middle class, socialist brat / From a suburban family and you never really had to work." 27. "Obvious Song," by Joe Jackson. For property rights and economic development, and against liberal hypocrisy: "There was a man in the jungle / Trying to make ends meet / Found himself one day with an axe in his hand / When a voice said 'Buddy can you spare that tree / We gotta save the world - starting with your land' / It was a rock 'n' roll millionaire from the USA / Doing three to the gallon in a big white car / And he sang and he sang 'til he polluted the air / And he blew a lot of smoke from a Cuban cigar." 28. "Janie's Got a Gun," by Aerosmith. How the right to bear arms can protect women from sexual predators: "What did her daddy do? / It's Janie's last I.O.U. / She had to take him down easy / And put a bullet in his brain / She said 'cause nobody believes me / The man was such a sleaze / He ain't never gonna be the same." 29. "Rime of the Ancient Mariner," by Iron Maiden. A heavy-metal classic inspired by a literary classic. How many other rock songs quote directly from Samuel Taylor Coleridge? 30. "You Can't Be Too Strong," by Graham Parker. Although it's not explicitly pro-life, this tune describes the horror of abortion with bracing honesty: "Did they tear it out with talons of steel, and give you a shot so that you wouldn't feel?" 31. "Small Town," by John Mellencamp. A Burkean rocker: "No, I cannot forget where it is that I come from / I cannot forget the people who love me." 32. "Keep Your Hands to Yourself," by The Georgia Satellites. An outstanding vocal performance, with lyrics that affirm old-time sexual mores: "She said no huggy, no kissy until I get a wedding vow." 33. "You Can't Always Get What You Want," by The Rolling Stones. You can "[go] down to the demonstration" and vent your frustration, but you must understand that there's no such thing as a perfect society - there are merely decent and free ones. 34. "Godzilla," by Blue Oyster Cult. A 1977 classic about a big green monster - and more: "History shows again and again / How nature points up the folly of men." 35. "Who'll Stop the Rain," by Creedence Clearwater Revival. Written as an anti-Vietnam War song, this tune nevertheless is pessimistic about activism and takes a dim view of both Communism and liberalism: "Five-year plans and new deals, wrapped in golden chains . . ." 36. "Government Cheese," by The Rainmakers. A protest song against the welfare state by a Kansas City band that deserved more success than it got. The first line: "Give a man a free house and he'll bust out the windows." 37. "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down," by The Band. Despite its sins, the American South always has been about more than racism - this song captures its pride and tradition. 38. "I Can't Drive 55," by Sammy Hagar. A rocker's objection to the nanny state. (See also Hagar's pro-America song "VOA.") 39. "Property Line," by The Marshall Tucker Band. The secret to happiness, according to these southern-rock heavyweights, is life, liberty, and property: "Well my idea of a good time / Is walkin' my property line / And knowin' the mud on my boots is mine." 40. "Wake Up Little Susie," by The Everly Brothers. A smash hit in 1957, back when high-school social pressures were rather different from what they have become: "We fell asleep, our goose is cooked, our reputation is shot." 41. "The Icicle Melts," by The Cranberries. A pro-life tune sung by Irish warbler Dolores O'Riordan: "I don't know what's happening to people today / When a child, he was taken away . . . 'Cause nine months is too long." 42. "Everybody's a Victim," by The Proclaimers. Best known for their smash hit "I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)," this Scottish band also recorded a catchy song about the problem of suspending moral judgment: "It doesn't matter what I do / You have to say it's all right . . . Everybody's a victim / We're becoming like the USA." 43. "Wonderful," by Everclear. A child's take on divorce: "I don't wanna hear you say / That I will understand someday / No, no, no, no / I don't wanna hear you say / You both have grown in a different way / No, no, no, no / I don't wanna meet your friends / And I don't wanna start over again / I just want my life to be the same / Just like it used to be." 44. "Two Sisters," by The Kinks. Why the "drudgery of being wed" is more rewarding than bohemian life. 45. "Taxman, Mr. Thief," by Cheap Trick. An anti-tax protest song: "You work hard, you went hungry / Now the taxman is out to get you. . . . He hates you, he loves money." 46. "Wind of Change," by The Scorpions. A German hard-rock group's optimistic power ballad about the end of the Cold War and national reunification: "The world is closing in / Did you ever think / That we could be so close, like brothers / The future's in the air / I can feel it everywhere / Blowing with the wind of change." 47. "One," by Creed. Against racial preferences: "Society blind by color / Why hold down one to raise another / Discrimination now on both sides / Seeds of hate blossom further." 48. "Why Don't You Get a Job," by The Offspring. The lyrics aren't exactly Shakespearean, but they're refreshingly blunt and they capture a motive force behind welfare reform. 49. "Abortion," by Kid Rock. A plaintive song sung by a man who confronts his unborn child's abortion: "I know your brothers and your sister and your mother too / Man I wish you could see them too." 50. "Stand By Your Man," by Tammy Wynette. Hillary trashed it - isn't that enough? If you're worried that Wynette's original is too country, then check out the cover version by Motvrhead. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:08:41 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Wild Oscar - njc Does anyone know anything about a guy named 'Wild Oscar" who is credited with the first photo on this page?: http://www.jonimitchell.com/originalsite/OnTheRoadVideoAAgain598.html Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Les ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 14:53:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC - National Review's Top 50 Conservative Rock Songs LOL! They WISH the original artists had had their twisted meanings in mind. Maybe some did....the idiot metal groups maybe. Why do they have to steal the music? I mean what pleasure can rock and roll have for a conservative? so why would they bother to try and cast that light on the songs?? One I'm surprised they didn't stick in there, CCR's "Fortunate Son". So often (nowadays) that is taken somehow as a gung ho flag waving tune. Makes me puke. Speaking of CCR, got tix today for the 2nd gig of Fogerty's upcoming tour. Willie Nelson opening. I know that's not bound to float many boats on this list, but what the heck! ;) Cassy, what were your thoughts as you read the Nat Revs list??? Em - --- Cassy wrote: > Conservative Top 50 > Published: May 25, 2006 > > Following is National Review's list of its top 50 conservative rock > songs, > with the magazine's explanations of its choices. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:42:53 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Dad, where do barrels of oil come from? njc gene wrote: > the united states does NOT have large resources of liquid oil. what wells we have are capped for emergency (military?) uses. But why can't we just go around drilling the piss out of every piece of land that hasn't already been gobbled up by roads and cookie cutter houses? Why can't we? Just poke big deep holes everywhere, the environment be damned. Maybe we'll find a drop or two that we can refine and then burn in an instant in our Hummers. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 23:40:09 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: NJC - National Review's Top 50 Conservative Rock Songs From: "Em" <<< Cassy, what were your thoughts as you read the Nat Revs list??? >>> I don't often get involved in political discussions, I find it can create animosity where none previously existed but so many musicians have been involved in politics over the years and lately more and more are speaking out against the current administration so maybe it's finally time for me to weigh in. I have never understood the need for strangers to get involved in my (or anyone else's) bedroom activities, the Concerned Women For America have taken particular umbrage at the completely legal conventions held by alternative sexualities at hotels throughout the country and have taken it so far as to organize letter writing and telephone campaigns to the host hotels putting pressure on them to shut their doors to these conventions. I find it absurd that whenever right-wing political groups want to rile the masses they need only mention children and sex in the same sentence - regardless that children have no place in the majority of legal sexual scenarios. Fear is an emotional weapon wielded more and more often these days to distract us from the realities of what's going on around us. I read a book recently by John Grisham "The Brethren" it was written in 2000 but I only picked it up in the library a couple of weeks ago. The book illustrates perfectly the machinations of the political machine and abuse of campaign financing utilized to elect a president. I'm disgusted! I'm disgusted because it didn't even cross my mind that it was implausible to get someone elected purely on manufactured bullshit. When I read the list of the top 50 conservative songs I felt sick to my stomach to see how manipulative people can be with their interpretations. The bad thing is that it's out there in the universe now and some folks will believe that this singular interpretation was the songwriter's intent when these songs were written whether it was or it wasn't is irrelevant (but not to me). The only good thing I can see coming from this list is that, perhaps, some of those musicians will benefit from a resurgence of sales to conservatives. I can only hope. Warmly, Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 21:02:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: 3 June -- njc Today Billy Joe McAllister jumped off the Tallahatchie bridge. - --Smurf . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 21:11:28 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: NJC - National Review's Top 50 Conservative Rock Songs > 28. "Janie's Got a Gun," by Aerosmith. or better yet: "Cheney's Got a Gun" by Bob Rivers. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 01:03:00 -0400 From: "MIKE HICKS" Subject: imogen heap/njc Watched new artist Imogen Heap for the 2nd time on J. Leno. All Joni fans should check out this girl. Very innovative lyrically and musically. Speak For Yourself is her CD. Mike NP - Amusement Parks On Fire - Asphalt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 23:05:15 -0700 From: Subject: Re: Dad, where do barrels of oil come from? njc Hi Gene, >we may get 10% of our oil from the middle east--------but middle east oil >sets the prices for the oil markets globally. Do you mean OPEC? I'm no expert on it but OPEC is comprised of 7 mid-east countries and Algeria, Nigeria, Indonesia and Venezuela. Not many countries friendly to the U.S. and they have had much control in the past as I recall. I guess then I should say we get 20% of our oil from OPEC member countries when you count Venezuela. > the united states does NOT have large resources of liquid oil. what wells > we have are capped for emergency (military?) uses. what we do have, as > does canada, are large resources of oil in form of shale and coal. to > mine both of these is very very hard on the environment. coal fired > plants are the biggest threat global warming. From what I've read the past few years there is much more than that being discovered in the U.S. and Canada. Not to mention Mexico. But I think so many have this mindset that we can't ever drill for oil or develop new sources ever again because of the environment. I think people need to look at or revisit the issue based on new technologies and discoveries. Why be held hostage to OPEC or any other country? It's way overdue to do something different. > look at china, worse air in the world. I'm glad you said that! ;-) Also, part of the reason for the high prices is the exponential increases in demand from China and India the past few years. > what's the answer? alternative energy, conservation, development of mass > transit, building less/bigger roads (the more roads built, the more cars > are used), tax breaks for conserving, tax the large consumers, zoning laws > to discourage long commutes, and most of all, personal commitment from the > individual citizens to consume less. Some of that has been done but not enough in some areas and not enough new ideas in others. And some of these suggestions, while they sound good on paper are really negative ideas to many people (more taxes, sacrifices, do without, etc.) Some of those kinds of actions have a ripple effect that hurts the economy and will still not eliminate the need or demand for oil. There is no easy answer but I think we need to move beyond the stalemate and mindset of 30 years ago. Maybe when I have some more time, I will post about some of the new information out there. Kakki ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2006 #212 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------