From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2006 #193 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, May 17 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 193 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- now customer service ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Surveillance - NSA (njc) ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: Magnificant Desolation: Walking on the Moon, njc [Catherine McKay ] May 17 njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Surveillance - NSA (njc) ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] A short play [Victor Johnson ] Re: A short play [Catherine McKay ] NJC Re: now customer service & cellphones njc [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] ultimate trivia question [Dave Blackburn ] Re: ultimate trivia question [revrvl@comcast.net (vince)] Joni in the workplace ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: ultimate trivia question [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: ultimate trivia question [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: ultimate trivia question [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Joni in the workplace [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC Re: now customer service & cellphones njc [Catherine McKay ] Summer of 1967 njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Surveillance - NSA (njc) [] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #142 [MattJones ] Priest lyrics query ["bluejr@adelphia.net" ] RE: Summer of 1967 njc ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Joni in the workplace ["Patti Parlette" ] NJC Re: Joni in the workplace [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Joni in the workplace [JRMCo1@aol.com] Joni thesis [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: catholic school, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: ultimate trivia question [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Joni in the workplace ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: NJC Re: now customer service & cellphones njc [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: njc, Beckett & Mitchell in the workplace ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: now customer service njc ["ron" ] The Steel House [Kate ] RE: Priest lyrics query ["bluejr@adelphia.net" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 06:41:55 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: now customer service Yeah, this didn't happen in the 60's and 70's. . no sir eee. . And what is this stuff at the end of the cell phone messages now? after your listen to your friend's message, you've got to hear to "to leave a call back number, press 1." "to leave a message, wait for the beep," "to page this person, . . . " E N O U G H! making you wait and racking up your minutes. . bla bla bla : -) Marianne catherine writes: >But, what's even worse is being a customer and calling some place that's got one of those automated answering systems that makes you choose from 9 different options and then, when you choose one, you have to choose from 9 more, and sometimes there's no zero-out to get a real person option. Or, if there is, then you get put in a queue to get a real person and in the meantime you're bombarded either with ads for the company's friggin' products, or with really crappy music-on-hold, interspersed with some BS about how much they *value* you as a customer and then... and then... when a *real* person DOES pick up the phone... they cut you off! and you have to go through it all over again ... and then, finally, you get a real person and that person is an obsequious bureaucrat with major attitude and the power to cut. you. off! Or, by the time someone does answer the phone... you've forgotten what you called about. But every once in a while, you get someone that answers the phone, doesn't give you attitude, answers your questions and sounds like a happy, human being and not a robot - and that surprises the hell out of me and I wonder what happened.< _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 06:57:28 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Surveillance - NSA (njc) remember, your emails are like postcards emails= postcards emails= postcards emails= postcards >From: >We've been monitored since the early 1950s. Ever read about Echelon? Our >emails have also been monitored since around the mid-1990s. _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 07:01:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Magnificant Desolation: Walking on the Moon, njc - --- LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > I find it disturbing that strip mining the moon > was presented as a > future "goal" of a sort. If we can't respect the > ecology of earth and are a > danger to the earth, we will be a danger to the > moon. [....] > you can go to the moon if you mine it. > That is very disturbing, Laura. I don't want one day to be looking at the face of the conquered moon and see pock marks. It does sort of remind me of all those Trent McLure "documentaries" the kids are forced to watch at school on the Simpsons. (Funny because it's true.) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 07:07:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: now customer service njc - --- Marianne Rizzo wrote: > Yeah, this didn't happen in the 60's and 70's. . no > sir eee. . > > And what is this stuff at the end of the cell phone > messages now? > > after your listen to your friend's message, you've > got to hear to "to leave > a call back number, press 1." "to leave a message, > wait for the beep," > "to page this person, . . . " > > E N O U G H! > > making you wait and racking up your minutes. . > I hope the NJC police don't gitcha, Marianne. cuz you forgot to mark that one. (Oh well, let 'em squawk, let 'em chicken-talk) I don't have a cell phone, except for the blackberry they gave me at work, which I don't use very often because I can't see the keyboard unless I take off my glasses and put my eye right up to it. They're going to have to come up with LARGE PRINT and BIG KEY cellphones if they want my business, which would defeat the purpose. I'm turning more and more Luddite the older I get. All this technology (esp. cellphones that take pictures and where you can watch movies - why??? - and listen to mp3s and download horrible ringtones) - just say no! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 07:11:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: May 17 njc This has been a very exciting week. Yesterday was Census Day in Canada! and I said no to allowing them to release my personal information in 92 years, because I didn't see the point. (Why 92??) And, on this day, May 17, in 1953, Mrs Murphy gave birth to a bouncing bundle of joy - and a bouncing bundle of joy he remains to this day. H*A*P*P*Y B*I*R*T*H*D*A*Y, B*O*B M*U*R*P*H*Y! Bounce on, baby boy! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 07:37:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Surveillance - NSA (njc) And yet how sad that Bush's new press secretary just minutes ago on national television said he would not comment on a program they haven't admitted even exists. Maybe you should call the White House and give them the facts. Jerry kbhla@sbcglobal.net wrote: > We've been monitored since the early 1950s. Ever read about Echelon? Our > emails have also been monitored since around the mid-1990s. I absolutely > groan when once again Bush is blamed for something that began WAY before > his > time. The ACLU and other civil libertarian groups have been raising this > issue for decades but only now under Bush it gets people's attention. > Government agencies (SEC, IRS, DOJ and others) have had databases of > telephone records for at least 20 years to detect patterns in calls. The > horse was out of the barn years and years ago. Here's some backround on > the > history and all the systems that have monitored people in the U.S., Europe > and other countries for decades: > > http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pspoole/echelon.html > > http://www.fas.org/irp/program/process/echelon.htm > > http://www.thebulletin.org/article.php?art_ofn=ma00richelson > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/02/24/60minutes/main164651.shtml ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:46:05 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: A short play Act I : Joni, Picasso, and Seinfeld sitting on a street corner, Beckett walks up... Beckett: What are you doing? Picasso: Waiting for Godot. (Beckett looks puzzled) Picasso: It's a Joni thing...you wouldn't understand. Seinfeld: Not that there's anything wrong with that! (Joni sneezes) Seinfeld: You're so good looking! Joni: Kiss my ass. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 10:12:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: A short play Brilliant, Victor. We need to stage this at a Jonifest. And, in order to be true to the spirit of Beckett, we need to make it last three hours. There will be long periods of people sitting or standing there, some buried up to their necks and so on. - --- Victor Johnson wrote: > Act I : Joni, Picasso, and Seinfeld sitting on a > street corner, > Beckett walks up... > > Beckett: What are you doing? > > Picasso: Waiting for Godot. > > (Beckett looks puzzled) > > Picasso: It's a Joni thing...you wouldn't > understand. > > Seinfeld: Not that there's anything wrong with that! > > (Joni sneezes) > > Seinfeld: You're so good looking! > > Joni: Kiss my ass. > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 10:21:36 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: NJC Re: now customer service & cellphones njc Because they can - and because people are stupid enough to lust after and buy them. I got rid of my land line and strictly use a cell phone, but I don't use it for all the 101 things it can do, just to make and receive calls. And when I travel it makes for a good alarm. It also come in handy when I need a source of light, like when I have to find the lock for my front door key and the porch light is off. It doesn't take pictures or play movies though. Why would I want to watch a movie on a 3-inch screen? And I despise going to a concert and seeing the sea of phones, taking pictures and such. I mean...people! You have a memory, right? Use it. I was at a funeral last year, and right when the family was entering the chapel, this lady's phone rings (and of course it was an obnoxious ring tone - "Play that funky music white boy" or something"), and she ANSWERS the phone just to say "I cain't talk to you raht now, Ahm at a fyoon-rul!" She's probably already replaced that phone with one that has a built-in microwave. Bob NP: Ian Shaw, "Edith & The Kingpin" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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I want his name, address and social security number please... lucky dog ;) Dave B ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:59:43 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: Re: ultimate trivia question It was Eminem. - -------------- Original message -------------- From: Dave Blackburn > Okay everyone (Bob especially); does anyone know who the fine > gentleman portrayed in Coyote might have been? Some sort of rough but > charming prairie type? Joni had "no regrets" so apparently enjoyed > her seduction in "the roadhouse". I want his name, address and social > security number please... lucky dog ;) > > > Dave B ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 15:03:50 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Joni in the workplace Hi Lovies: LOL...I'm at work, and just opened this email from one of our professors (he likes Joni and understands and tolerates quite well my JMOCD): - -------------------- At 09:06 AM 5/17/2006: Subject: Both Sides NOW go to http://www.wmnr.org/ and click on "listen" on the right this minute! a classical version of the song. Laura just said, "oh my God who is singing that?!" - --------- I wrote back: Thanks, Stuart, but I missed it. Who performed it? Our "Covers King" (he has over 2000 Joni covers) will want (no -- NEED) to know! (Not that JMDLers are obsessive or anything.) Et quelle coincidence! That radio station is from where I went to high school....Monroe, CT! - -------- Joni in the workplace....chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, dontcha just love it? And I'm about to share Catherine's Beckett & Joni post w/ my dept. head, the Beckett scholar. Next thing you know she'll be singing Joni songs with me all day. Yes! If l had my way I'd just walk through those doors And wander Down the hallways singing Joni songs and my whole department would be wasting away in Jonimitchellville! (OR, more likely I suppose, someone will report me to the Employee Assistance Program and I'll be up in some sterilized room.) Love, Patti P. NPIMH: Help me, I think I'm falling into JMOCD again...when I get this crazy feeling it's hard to work....I'm in trouble again.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 11:18:12 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: ultimate trivia question We had a pretty in-depth discussion about that topic way back when - I think it was Julius who put forth the conjecture that Sam Shepard was the guy, with some good evidence to back him up. If I'm not remembering that correctly, some veteran can chime in and offer up other info. Bob NP: Ani, "32 Flavors" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 11:22:14 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: ultimate trivia question It was Eminem.> Which would make Joni quite the pedophile since he would have been FOUR at the time. I thought only Catholic Priests liked 'em that young. "Picks up my scent on his fingers...." Ewwwwwwwww! Bob - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 11:30:18 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni in the workplace Assuming from your post that it was a vocal version, and seeing that WMNR is a Calssical station, my guess is that it was the Classical tenor Ronan Tynan's version. Not one of my favorites - still, Joni covers on the radio, always a welcome add to any playlist. Bob NP: Bruce Springsteen, "Highway 25" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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And when I travel it makes for a good alarm. > It also come in handy when I need a source of light, > like when I have to > find the lock for my front door key and the porch > light is off. It doesn't > take pictures or play movies though. I get it and it makes a lot of sense for people who travel a lot and in some other circumstances. A co-worker of mine doesn't even have a landline at home. She uses nothing but a cellphone, but she is out and about a lot and does freelance writing, so it makes sense for her. I did consider getting rid of the landline at home but if there are three people in the house, it would mean each would need his/her own cellphone - and I ain't a-payin' for that! One of the things cellphones aren't good for is 9-1-1 calls. If you call 9-1-1 from home, they know where you are and, even if you can't speak, they can send someone to your house. With cellphones, you have to tell them exactly where you are - and you may be stuck in the middle of nowhere and not be able to say. Of course, if you're stuck in the middle of nowhere, you wouldn't be near your landline anyway. And we don't call 9-1-1 too often, fortunately. Why would I > want to watch a movie on > a 3-inch screen? Good question. It's a novelty. Imagine trying to watch some epic film on one of those! > And I despise going to a concert and seeing the sea > of phones, taking > pictures and such. I mean...people! You have a > memory, right? Use it. I > was at a funeral last year, and right when the > family was entering the > chapel, this lady's phone rings (and of course it > was an obnoxious ring > tone - "Play that funky music white boy" or > something"), and she ANSWERS > the phone just to say "I cain't talk to you raht > now, Ahm at a fyoon-rul!" Oh yeah, and don't they put something right in the program, or onscreen if it's a movie, or whatever reminding people (the bulls in the China shop again) to turn off their cellphones? But apparently some people are too important to turn them off. Or too stoopid! > She's probably already replaced that phone with one > that has a built-in > microwave. I'm waiting for that one and I'm sure it's coming. It also needs to be able to clean the house and do the ironing. There's a person in our office who hasn't figured out how to turn off the thingy on her blackberry that beeps every time a message comes in, so we can be at a meeting and you hear these constant beeps from her blackberry. I overheard my boss ask one of the IT people to show this person how to change the options so the beep is turned off, so I guess they did, but she must have decided she needs to know the second an e-mail comes in. I guess she wants everyone to know how important she is, but she gets the same number of e-mails everyone else does. And if they put their blackberries down on the table near one of those PolyComm phones, the phone picks up vibes every time they get an e-mail and it starts to buzz. And after all this time, some of them still haven't figured out to move the stupid blackberry a couple of inches to the left or the right. OK, I'm going to shut up about this now. It's not like I'm an expert on anything but it all goes back to wondering how some people can be so oblivious about the things they do and the effect they have on others. One more thing. People on the subway that hog seats. There's a three-seater and they plonk their asses in the middle seat. And they're big people to start with, but they sit with their legs spread open and take up even more room. Then they put their gym bags and other crap on one of the seats next to them. Then they act like they don't notice that there's a zillion other people on the train, standing, that might like a seat, including a little old lady with a cane, a pregnant woman carrying bags of groceries, a guy with a broken leg and crutches. OK, I'm done. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 11:51:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: ultimate trivia question - --- Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > It was Eminem.> > > Which would make Joni quite the pedophile since he > would have been FOUR at > the time. I thought only Catholic Priests liked 'em > that young. > > "Picks up my scent on his fingers...." Ewwwwwwwww! > Ewwww is right. i guess the real Coyote is probably about 80 by now. Ewwwwww! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:09:16 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Summer of 1967 njc What amazing syncronicity. Picked up the new edition of SB Magazine (has become quite glossy, mostly society oriented) & the very last page is a photo from the 60's of surfers & kids hanging out at the beach... the year is 1966 & the photographer who was able to put it on a timer & be in the photo also is named Bernie Baker?! Could this be Danny Baker's older brother? Anyway, how timely is this? A year before you were hanging out on the beach Patti but still... if you send me your address & I'll mail you a b&w copy (its in color but I have no color copier) to you ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:19:04 -0700 From: Subject: Re: Surveillance - NSA (njc) I didn't see it but may be able to catch it later. Bottom line is that most people who work in sensitive government positions (and that would obviously include people working in the White House) cannot comment on certain things, even if those things are common knowledge or can be easily determined by research. Not to mention how dumb it would be to announce to the whole world in a press conference what we are up to. I have been reading elsewhere about specific U.S. Federal law that provides for all kinds of surveillance and acquisition of phone and other records that the government is allowed to pursue. These laws have been around for a long time. You can do a keyword search on U.S. Code Title 18 and see numerous sections as to what is and what is not allowed. Kakki > And yet how sad that Bush's new press secretary just minutes ago on > national television said he would not comment on a program they haven't > admitted even exists. Maybe you should call the White House and give them > the facts. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:32:22 -0700 (PDT) From: MattJones Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #142 Hello all! I am a Graduate Musicology student at The University of Georgia, and I am writing my thesis on Joni! For the summer, I am trying to gather as many articles (of the academic and journalistic sort) on Joni I can. It's pretty easy to get the reviews/ interviews thanks to jmdc, but I am having trouble finding scholarly writing on Joni. If anyone has any leads, that would be great! Thus far, I've only found Whitesell's article on joni's harmonic palate, an article on Woodstock by Camille Paglia (check it out if you haven't seen it, in her book "Break, Blow, Burn" she calls "woodstock" the most important poem since Plath's "Daddy.") and a handfull of others. I am not asking you guys to do my work for me, but if you have any guidance, that'd be fabulous. I am also considering starting a listserv for scholarly writers who study Joni. If anyone's interested in that, let me know. I'll try to have it going by the end of summer. Thanks! Matt Jones Athens, GA rats live on no evil star - --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1"/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 12:48:49 -0400 From: "bluejr@adelphia.net" Subject: Priest lyrics query Hello all, Given my rather spotty past in regards to past relationships and their failures, one of my favorite lines from any Joni song would have to be Priest, where she sings: "Oh now the trials and trumpets scored Or will we pass this test For just as one loves more and more Will one love less and less." I can't for the life of me figure out what is meant by that first line. Of course, I bombed my SAT's on that kind of stuff, y'know when they had you read a paragraph, and they asked: "Now what is the underlying allegory or motif of this passage?" Duh.... I don't know. Of course, they never gave out points for those type of answers, hence my score of about 900 total. I still kick a$$ on Jeopardy, though. Any help? Anyone? Bueller? Thanks in advance, JR - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 17:12:31 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: RE: Summer of 1967 njc Holy Surf City Synchro! See, you were right on, Kate, when you said SB was a sleepy surf town back in '67. But Danny Baker did not have a brother...LOL.... Bernie Baker...close but no cigar! Danny Baker, Danny Baker, where are you??? Come back, I'm all grown up now and not afraid of all the things you used to try to get me to do. LOL!!!!! (What was that old song? Come back when you grow up girl.....) OMG! I just googled the song and it was released on two albums in 1966 and, naturellement, 1967! Remember this one by Bobby Vee? I'm sure I heard it on the SB beaches on my transistor radio way back then....call me at the station, Danny, the lines are open! Nah, only kidding. I mooned and juned over Danny B. all through high school, sure that I would marry him. Then he came to visit me in CT in my senior year (1971-72) and he was soooooo not my type. In the 4 years that I hadn't seen him he turned into a dork, while I had become completely jonified (four Joni albums already tattoed underneath the skin). But no regrets, Coyote! Here's that song we all heard on the beaches in 1966 and 1967 (if you can stand it): Come back when you grow up, girl You're still livin' in a paper-doll world Livin' ain't easy, lovin's twice as tough So come back, baby, when you grow up You're lookin' real good like a woman now Your mind hasn't gotten the message somehow So if you can't take it and the goin' gets rough Come back, baby, when you grow up I want you girl but your wide-eyed innocence Has really messed up my mind, yeah I'd rather you get your very first heartbreak Somewhere else along the line Come back when you grow up, girl You're still livin' in a paper-doll world Some day be a woman ready to love Come back, baby, when you grow up Come back when you grow up, girl You're still livin' in a paper-doll world Livin' ain't easy, lovin's twice as tough Come back, baby, when you grow up Come back when you grow up, girl You still got a lotta time left in the world You'll some day be a woman ready to love Come back, baby, when you grow up Come back when you grow up, girl You're still livin' in a paper-doll world Livin' ain't easy, lovin's twice as tough So come back, baby, when you grow up I would love to get a copy of this picture, Kate. I'll send you my address off-list. And as partial thanks, I'll send you a picture of me and Sherelle at Strawberry Fields standing by John Lennon's "IMAGINE" mosaic the day after the Tribute. It's not the best quality photo, but the spirit is good. Sherelle, I hope you don't mind if I circulate our souls around cyberspace! Love, Patti P., who never did become "Patti Cake, Patti Cake, Danny Baker man's girl" in the end... > >What amazing syncronicity. Picked up the new edition of SB Magazine (has >become quite glossy, mostly society oriented) & the very last page is a >photo from the 60's of surfers & kids hanging out at the beach... the year >is 1966 & the photographer who was able to put it on a timer & be in the >photo also is named Bernie Baker?! Could this be Danny Baker's older >brother? Anyway, how timely is this? A year before you were hanging out on >the beach Patti but still... if you send me your address & I'll mail you a >b&w copy (its in color but I have no color copier) to you ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 17:16:20 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: Joni in the workplace Bob wrote: >Assuming from your post that it was a vocal version, and seeing that WMNR >is a Calssical station, my guess is that it was the Classical tenor Ronan >Tynan's version. Not one of my favorites - still, Joni covers on the >radio, always a welcome add to any playlist. > Here is Stuart's answer: It is our favorite station and by the way has a wonderful folk program thursday nights at 9. Its classical programming is the best on the radio. They once quoted me in of their telethons. It was an opera singer who has an album called "Impossible Dream" (or dreams?) - ----- Is that who you are thinking of, Herr Musik Meister? Peace, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:39:04 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: NJC Re: Joni in the workplace He shoots - he scores! (damn I'm good): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00007LGND/qid=1147886954/sr=2-3/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_3/002-9822863-6550437?s=music&v=glance&n=5174 Bob NP: Joni, "Just Like This Train" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Revenge will be served cold, my dear. :-) - -Julius, npimh: "Chick-A-Boom (Don't Ya Just Love It)" Daddy Dewdrop Last night I had a crazy dream 'bout a chick in a black bikini, ugh! Ah, she looked so good, she couldn't be real She must be a magic genie! But she disappeared around the corner All I saw were three doors and the top of her bikini I made it through the first door, there was a party goin' on I asked about the chick but what they said was freaky... Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't ya just love it Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't you just love it Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't ya just love it Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom-boom-boom I found the bottom part behind the second door Which took me to Africa, I presume This really far-out cat was screamin' half-crazy "Whomp-bobba-looba ba-lomp-bam-boom" I said, "Hey man, cut that jive and tell me where the chick went" But he looked at me, as spaced as could be And said these words but I wonder what he meant... Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't ya just love it Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't you just love it Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't ya just love it Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom-boom-boom Ah, don't ya just love it Um hmm, don't ya just love it Don't ya love it, don't ya love it Oh yeah, don't ya love it Don't ya just love it now I opened the third door and there she was And she whispered so sexy and low Ooo! I tried to do the same and impress her with my style But why I said this, I'll never know... Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't ya just love it Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't you just love it Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't ya just love it Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom-boom-boom Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't ya just love it Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't you just love it Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't ya just love it Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom-boom-boom Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't ya just love it Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't you just love it Chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, don't ya just love it (fade...) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:43:06 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Joni thesis Hi Matt, Haven't you been working on that thesis for awhile? Anyway, your one-stop shop for Joni research is the library on JM.com: http://jonimitchell.com/library/ The latest entry is a thesis about Joni titled "'All Pink and Clean and Full of Wonder?' Gendering 'Joni Mitchell,' 1966-74" I started reading it but couldn't stay with it - I'll try again another time. Good luck with the writing. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Frank's Wild Years" (never could stand that dog...) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:37:59 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: catholic school, njc Marianne wrote: I am curious. . . whomever or whoever (?) would like to respond. . Did you go to catholic school? What grades? Anything you'd like to say about it? Hi Marianne, K-2nd grade: Catholic (Wichita, Kansas) 3rd-6th grades: Public (Bellevue, Nebraska) 7th-12th grades: Catholic (N/Little Rock, Arkansas) College: Methodist (Conway, Arkansas) I could have gone to public schools 7th -12th. My parents gave me the option. But, I chose to go to a Catholic school because I felt safe there. Your sister just called me so I can't write as much as I'd like to here because we are talking, but my high school was run by moderate nuns on the liberal side, and that's the way I am today. Trip you just called your sister to ask about Connie, your niece who is sick today. I told her to give Connie Pepcid AC and now Connie's feeling better. I guess this is a consultation call. Gotta go and talk now. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 10:37:06 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: ultimate trivia question - --- Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > It was Eminem.> > > Which would make Joni quite the pedophile since he > would have been FOUR at > the time. I thought only Catholic Priests liked 'em > that young. > > "Picks up my scent on his fingers...." Ewwwwwwwww! Well now, let's use our powers of logical deductive reasoning to figure this out properly. Work with me if you will.... "He's got a woman at home, he's got another woman down the hall, he seems to want me anyway..." "Coyote's in the coffee shop, he's staring a hole in his scrambled eggs. He picks up my scent on his fingers while he's watching the waitress's legs" "He pins me in the corner and he won't take 'No!'" That all sounds like.............Bill Clinton..... right age, right profile. But then.......a vexing alternative....... "Privately probing the public rooms and peeking through keyholes of numbered doors" That's more like the aforementioned Catholic priest or.....Jerry Falwell (ewwwwww!) Okay, so we're down to Clinton and Falwell. Since it's more likely that Clinton also prowls the public rooms than Falwell has multiple women all over the place, AND given the fact that Joni has "no regrets" which Falwell would most certainly have caused I guess we can conclude that Coyote is about a liason with Bill Clinton. Now why he was masquerading as a rancher is beyond me, but maybe he could do the accent convincingly...he'll probably reveal all in his next book. I really must stop procrastinating and get back to work now that we've solved this one.... Dave B ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 17:37:44 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: Joni in the workplace > > >Joni in the workplace....chick-a-boom, chick-a-boom, dontcha just love > > it? > > >Revenge will be served cold, my dear. :-) > >-Julius, npimh: > >"Chick-A-Boom (Don't Ya Just Love It)" >Daddy Dewdrop Hey, now don't you threaten ME, you mean old daddy! I'll hip-check you right into the boards at Wollman Rink! Hip-check-a-BOOM! You'll crash into someone's arms! I am not responsible for your earworms or your behavior or anything else. My analyst told me! Laughing it all away, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:19:29 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: NJC Re: now customer service & cellphones njc But if you offer your seat to the lady, you're being sexist ("What do you think, Mister, I'm the weaker sex or something?"), if you offer it to the old lady, you're being both sexist and age-ist ("Are you saying I look too old to stand up?"), she gets pissed off and offended and whups you with her cane. And if you offer it to the guy with the crutches, his machismo is offended and he whups you with his crutch...so it's like 'pick your beating'. It's a no-win situation. I guess that's why I just drive a car. Bob NP: Joni, "People's Parties" laughing it all away... - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 18:22:46 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: njc, Beckett & Mitchell in the workplace Catherine wrote: >What do Joni Mitchell and Samuel Beckett have in >common, I asked myself. > >I've been sitting up waiting for Godot to show... > >I'm supposed to be working, but I can't concentrate, >so I went to google and typed "Joni Mitchell and >Samuel Beckett" and, as usually happens, a bunch of >stuff came up, but this one caught my eye: >--------------------------------------- > >Grappling with Godot >By colin thomas > >Publish Date: 23-Mar-2006 > >What do Samuel Beckett and Jerry Seinfeld have in >common? Well, theyre both like Pablo Picasso and Joni >Mitchellat least according to Morris Panych, who is >directing Becketts Waiting for Godot, which runs in >an Arts Club production at the Stanley Theatre from >next Wednesday (March 29) until April 23. > >Eating a salmon salad in the lounge of the Arts Clubs >Granville Island Stagehe is rehearsing >upstairsPanych says: Waiting for Godot is a lot like >a painting by Picasso. It makes its own rules. Thats >what makes it interesting. Its like a fantastic Joni >Mitchell song; Joni Mitchell reinvented music in her >own way. Nothing like it existed before. Seinfeld. >Theres another one, a reinvention of form. That show >made its own rules and then it followed them. > I shared the above with Norma (my dept. head/Becket scholar, for those just tuning in). She loved it! I told her about the lyrics from "car on the hill" first and she totally cracked up at Catherine's new ones. She got it. In her beautiful Italian accent, she said: "See, Patti! I'm not such a square baby or whatever you called me!" (That was in reference to when I said she didn't know much about Joni by saying "You're so square, baby, I don't care.") Then MORE Joni in the workplace! I was filling out an on-line form and it asked for "contact person." I said to Norma: "Whose name should I put? Yours or mine?" And she said: "Put Beckett and Meeetchell!" Still laughing, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:17:41 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: A short play As long as I can play the guy who turns up, moves a box, gives a total look of desperation, happines, quietude and feels a tree, then leaves stage left. Joni looks on, gives a quick glance to Picasso who shrugs in a most Hispano-Gallic way and Beckett runs off clutching a branch. Much Zooby Joni On 17/05/06, Catherine McKay wrote: > Brilliant, Victor. We need to stage this at a > Jonifest. > > And, in order to be true to the spirit of Beckett, we > need to make it last three hours. There will be long > periods of people sitting or standing there, some > buried up to their necks and so on. > > --- Victor Johnson wrote: > > > Act I : Joni, Picasso, and Seinfeld sitting on a > > street corner, > > Beckett walks up... > > > > Beckett: What are you doing? > > > > Picasso: Waiting for Godot. > > > > (Beckett looks puzzled) > > > > Picasso: It's a Joni thing...you wouldn't > > understand. > > > > Seinfeld: Not that there's anything wrong with that! > > > > (Joni sneezes) > > > > Seinfeld: You're so good looking! > > > > Joni: Kiss my ass. > > > > > Catherine > Toronto > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 and on myspace at http://www.myspace.com/jamiezoob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 21:01:17 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: now customer service njc hi >>>catherine wrote >>>> Luddite the older I get. All this technology (esp. cellphones that take pictures and where you can watch movies - why??? - and listen to mp3s and download horrible ringtones) - just say no! when i was a kid, i was the one who taught my parents to programme the vcr, now im the old toppie, im screwed - no kids to teach me to use my cellphone. the print in the manual is too small (i dont bring my glasses home form work), so i just take the cheapest phone & gift voucher when i renew my contract. i figure i can use the voucher to buy a real camera, & get the best of both worlds. ron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:22:54 -0600 From: Kate Subject: The Steel House Just listening to an afternoon show on CBC, interviewing a man who built a steel house in the middle of Victoria, BC's industrial area. He has been having trouble selling it. He said the inspiration came about when he heard Big Yellow Taxi and thought, Why don't I make this parking lot into a paradise? It sounds like a very interesting place, and can be seen at http://www.awesomehouse.com. Kate of the North http://xoetc.antville.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 16:29:52 -0400 From: "bluejr@adelphia.net" Subject: RE: Priest lyrics query Of course! OK, how about this: 1) The 'trials' refer to the start of a new relationship. 2) Now, I'm no orchestral composer, but what if the final parts of any particular score are the trumpet parts? That would mean that the new relationship is past the 'trials', or 'new' phase and then the accompanying worry or concern at that point (by either side) that they'll be unlucky enough to be the one who 'loves more and more', while worrying that the other person will be the one who 'loves less and less'. I would guess that the test that is trying to be passed is not having the relationship turn out just that way. If that's the case, then it makes perfect sense! (Never thought I'd ever utter these words, but) Thanks Hell! Original Message: - ----------------- From: Hell hell@ihug.co.nz Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:15:49 +1200 To: bluejr@adelphia.net, joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: Priest lyrics query The lyrics on www.jonimitchell.com read slightly differently: Now the trials are trumpet scored Oh will we pass the test Or just as one loves more and more Will one love less and less Which has a different meaning (to me, at least) from the words you quoted. I would interpret that as meaning that the "trials" of relationships are "scored" (metaphorically) with trumpet-sounds, ie. she's scoring various aspects or her life (or whoever she's singing about), and these trials are highlighted with trumpet sounds, as opposed to something softer like strings, or piano. The following lines refer to the relationship, ie. as one partner develops deeper feelings, will the other lose feeling? Just my $0.02 worth.... 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